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V4LENT1NE

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Nov 9, 2012 11:45 pm GMT

ronvalencia wrote:

lulmont wrote:

nope good with my 7970 I say until 2014 to 2015

If PS4 has 7850 level GPU, it could be good for another 7 years,

Pretty stupid comment to be honest. Consoles have much better optimization then a PC game, comparing the two is ridiculous.
[QUOTE="ronvalencia"][QUOTE="lulmont"]
nope good with my 7970 I say until 2014 to 2015
[/QUOTE] If PS4 has 7850 level GPU, it could be good for another 7 years, [/QUOTE] Pretty stupid comment to be honest. Consoles have much better optimization then a PC game, comparing the two is ridiculous.
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Nov 10, 2012 1:33 am GMT

V4LENT1NE wrote:

ronvalencia wrote:

lulmont wrote:

nope good with my 7970 I say until 2014 to 2015
If PS4 has 7850 level GPU, it could be good for another 7 years,
Pretty stupid comment to be honest. Consoles have much better optimization then a PC game, comparing the two is ridiculous.
Crysis 2 on Radeon X1950 Pro runs like Xbox 360's Crysis 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHWPGmf_A_0
Wii U's multi-platfrom game results are like any mobile Radeon HD @35 watts e.g. Radeon HD 4670M(320 SPs) to E6760 (480 SPs).
"Console optimizations" doesn't automatcially promote it's GPU to another level.
HD 7970 has 3789 GFLOPs while HD 7850 has 1761 GFLOPs.

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[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"][QUOTE="ronvalencia"][QUOTE="lulmont"]
nope good with my 7970 I say until 2014 to 2015
[/QUOTE] If PS4 has 7850 level GPU, it could be good for another 7 years, [/QUOTE] Pretty stupid comment to be honest. Consoles have much better optimization then a PC game, comparing the two is ridiculous.[/QUOTE]
Crysis 2 on Radeon X1950 Pro runs like Xbox 360's Crysis 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHWPGmf_A_0
Wii U's multi-platfrom game results are like any mobile Radeon HD @35 watts e.g. Radeon HD 4670M(320 SPs) to E6760 (480 SPs).
"Console optimizations" doesn't automatcially promote it's GPU to another level.
HD 7970 has 3789 GFLOPs while HD 7850 has 1761 GFLOPs.
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Nov 10, 2012 2:02 am GMT

ronvalencia wrote:

V4LENT1NE wrote:

ronvalencia wrote:

If PS4 has 7850 level GPU, it could be good for another 7 years,
Pretty stupid comment to be honest. Consoles have much better optimization then a PC game, comparing the two is ridiculous.
Crysis 2 on Radeon X1950 Pro runs like Xbox 360's Crysis 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHWPGmf_A_0
Wii U's multi-platfrom game results are like any mobile Radeon HD @35 watts e.g. Radeon HD 4670M(320 SPs) to E6760 (480 SPs).
"Console optimizations" doesn't automatcially promote it's GPU to another level.
HD 7970 has 3789 GFLOPs while HD 7850 has 1761 GFLOPs.

It sorta does take it to a new level though, Xbox also has like what 500mb of RAM or something, a 7 year old CPU and GPU and then you see something like Halo 4 in 1080p and it looks amazing. PC is also so hit and miss nowadays, look at GTA4 for example, runs great on Xbox all be it at pretty low settings, but lags like **** on some PCs even on uber hardware, consoles will always have that optimization advantage because devs know exactly what the hardware is. No way in hell I would say that GPU will be fine in even 4 years, PC game optimization is to hit and miss.
[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]
[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"][QUOTE="ronvalencia"] If PS4 has 7850 level GPU, it could be good for another 7 years, [/QUOTE] Pretty stupid comment to be honest. Consoles have much better optimization then a PC game, comparing the two is ridiculous.[/QUOTE]
Crysis 2 on Radeon X1950 Pro runs like Xbox 360's Crysis 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHWPGmf_A_0
Wii U's multi-platfrom game results are like any mobile Radeon HD @35 watts e.g. Radeon HD 4670M(320 SPs) to E6760 (480 SPs).
"Console optimizations" doesn't automatcially promote it's GPU to another level.
HD 7970 has 3789 GFLOPs while HD 7850 has 1761 GFLOPs.

[/QUOTE] It sorta does take it to a new level though, Xbox also has like what 500mb of RAM or something, a 7 year old CPU and GPU and then you see something like Halo 4 in 1080p and it looks amazing. PC is also so hit and miss nowadays, look at GTA4 for example, runs great on Xbox all be it at pretty low settings, but lags like **** on some PCs even on uber hardware, consoles will always have that optimization advantage because devs know exactly what the hardware is. No way in hell I would say that GPU will be fine in even 4 years, PC game optimization is to hit and miss.
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Nov 10, 2012 3:19 am GMT

ronvalencia wrote:

V4LENT1NE wrote:

ronvalencia wrote:

If PS4 has 7850 level GPU, it could be good for another 7 years,
Pretty stupid comment to be honest. Consoles have much better optimization then a PC game, comparing the two is ridiculous.
Crysis 2 on Radeon X1950 Pro runs like Xbox 360's Crysis 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHWPGmf_A_0
Wii U's multi-platfrom game results are like any mobile Radeon HD @35 watts e.g. Radeon HD 4670M(320 SPs) to E6760 (480 SPs).
"Console optimizations" doesn't automatcially promote it's GPU to another level.
HD 7970 has 3789 GFLOPs while HD 7850 has 1761 GFLOPs.

I think the cross over term of horsepower is quite useful in this discussion. The bugatti veyron only needs 60bhp or something to reach 60 mph. However it needs 1000bhp to get to 252 mph. So you need more horse power to go quicker, but because of the extra overhead stuff (air in the cars case) you dont go as fast as you should be going. So fair enough the old graphics card can run stuff at "consoles level", but if you want that then just stick with a console imo. However if you want the awesome visuals, smoother gameplay experience etc then you need to invest in a more powerful graphics card down the line. Because simply put the level of console output doesnt really change, however the gap of the PC always increases, thus a more powerful card is needed to keep at the top.

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]
[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"][QUOTE="ronvalencia"] If PS4 has 7850 level GPU, it could be good for another 7 years, [/QUOTE] Pretty stupid comment to be honest. Consoles have much better optimization then a PC game, comparing the two is ridiculous.[/QUOTE]
Crysis 2 on Radeon X1950 Pro runs like Xbox 360's Crysis 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHWPGmf_A_0
Wii U's multi-platfrom game results are like any mobile Radeon HD @35 watts e.g. Radeon HD 4670M(320 SPs) to E6760 (480 SPs).
"Console optimizations" doesn't automatcially promote it's GPU to another level.
HD 7970 has 3789 GFLOPs while HD 7850 has 1761 GFLOPs.

[/QUOTE] I think the cross over term of horsepower is quite useful in this discussion. The bugatti veyron only needs 60bhp or something to reach 60 mph. However it needs 1000bhp to get to 252 mph. So you need more horse power to go quicker, but because of the extra overhead stuff (air in the cars case) you dont go as fast as you should be going. So fair enough the old graphics card can run stuff at "consoles level", but if you want that then just stick with a console imo. However if you want the awesome visuals, smoother gameplay experience etc then you need to invest in a more powerful graphics card down the line. Because simply put the level of console output doesnt really change, however the gap of the PC always increases, thus a more powerful card is needed to keep at the top.
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Nov 10, 2012 4:35 am GMT

V4LENT1NE wrote:

ronvalencia wrote:

V4LENT1NE wrote:

Pretty stupid comment to be honest. Consoles have much better optimization then a PC game, comparing the two is ridiculous.
Crysis 2 on Radeon X1950 Pro runs like Xbox 360's Crysis 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHWPGmf_A_0
Wii U's multi-platfrom game results are like any mobile Radeon HD @35 watts e.g. Radeon HD 4670M(320 SPs) to E6760 (480 SPs).
"Console optimizations" doesn't automatcially promote it's GPU to another level.
HD 7970 has 3789 GFLOPs while HD 7850 has 1761 GFLOPs.

It sorta does take it to a new level though, Xbox also has like what 500mb of RAM or something, a 7 year old CPU and GPU and then you see something like Halo 4 in 1080p and it looks amazing. PC is also so hit and miss nowadays, look at GTA4 for example, runs great on Xbox all be it at pretty low settings, but lags like **** on some PCs even on uber hardware, consoles will always have that optimization advantage because devs know exactly what the hardware is. No way in hell I would say that GPU will be fine in even 4 years, PC game optimization is to hit and miss.

Halo 4 isn't 1080p
Run GTA4 at xbox settings on an average pc and it will run better, the console version of gta4 is sub 720p, about 25fps most of the time and blurry as hell.
Chances are the next consoles will have GPUs way slower than a 7850 and it will last a good few years.
[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"][QUOTE="ronvalencia"]
[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"] Pretty stupid comment to be honest. Consoles have much better optimization then a PC game, comparing the two is ridiculous.[/QUOTE]
Crysis 2 on Radeon X1950 Pro runs like Xbox 360's Crysis 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHWPGmf_A_0
Wii U's multi-platfrom game results are like any mobile Radeon HD @35 watts e.g. Radeon HD 4670M(320 SPs) to E6760 (480 SPs).
"Console optimizations" doesn't automatcially promote it's GPU to another level.
HD 7970 has 3789 GFLOPs while HD 7850 has 1761 GFLOPs.

[/QUOTE] It sorta does take it to a new level though, Xbox also has like what 500mb of RAM or something, a 7 year old CPU and GPU and then you see something like Halo 4 in 1080p and it looks amazing. PC is also so hit and miss nowadays, look at GTA4 for example, runs great on Xbox all be it at pretty low settings, but lags like **** on some PCs even on uber hardware, consoles will always have that optimization advantage because devs know exactly what the hardware is. No way in hell I would say that GPU will be fine in even 4 years, PC game optimization is to hit and miss.[/QUOTE] Halo 4 isn't 1080p Run GTA4 at xbox settings on an average pc and it will run better, the console version of gta4 is sub 720p, about 25fps most of the time and blurry as hell. Chances are the next consoles will have GPUs way slower than a 7850 and it will last a good few years.
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Nov 10, 2012 6:17 am GMT

V4LENT1NE wrote:

ronvalencia wrote:

V4LENT1NE wrote:

Pretty stupid comment to be honest. Consoles have much better optimization then a PC game, comparing the two is ridiculous.
Crysis 2 on Radeon X1950 Pro runs like Xbox 360's Crysis 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHWPGmf_A_0
Wii U's multi-platfrom game results are like any mobile Radeon HD @35 watts e.g. Radeon HD 4670M(320 SPs) to E6760 (480 SPs).
"Console optimizations" doesn't automatcially promote it's GPU to another level.
HD 7970 has 3789 GFLOPs while HD 7850 has 1761 GFLOPs.
It sorta does take it to a new level though, Xbox also has like what 500mb of RAM or something, a 7 year old CPU and GPU and then you see something like Halo 4 in 1080p and it looks amazing. PC is also so hit and miss nowadays, look at GTA4 for example, runs great on Xbox all be it at pretty low settings, but lags like **** on some PCs even on uber hardware, consoles will always have that optimization advantage because devs know exactly what the hardware is. No way in hell I would say that GPU will be fine in even 4 years, PC game optimization is to hit and miss.
Define "on some PC" when running GTA IV. Core 2 Duo 2Ghz + Radeon X1950 Pro can run it just fine.
Halo 4 renders at 720p http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-09-26-frank-oconnor-on-how-halo-4-gets-the-most-out-of-the-7-year-old-xbox-360

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[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"][QUOTE="ronvalencia"]
[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"] Pretty stupid comment to be honest. Consoles have much better optimization then a PC game, comparing the two is ridiculous.[/QUOTE]
Crysis 2 on Radeon X1950 Pro runs like Xbox 360's Crysis 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHWPGmf_A_0
Wii U's multi-platfrom game results are like any mobile Radeon HD @35 watts e.g. Radeon HD 4670M(320 SPs) to E6760 (480 SPs).
"Console optimizations" doesn't automatcially promote it's GPU to another level.
HD 7970 has 3789 GFLOPs while HD 7850 has 1761 GFLOPs.
[/QUOTE] It sorta does take it to a new level though, Xbox also has like what 500mb of RAM or something, a 7 year old CPU and GPU and then you see something like Halo 4 in 1080p and it looks amazing. PC is also so hit and miss nowadays, look at GTA4 for example, runs great on Xbox all be it at pretty low settings, but lags like **** on some PCs even on uber hardware, consoles will always have that optimization advantage because devs know exactly what the hardware is. No way in hell I would say that GPU will be fine in even 4 years, PC game optimization is to hit and miss.[/QUOTE]
Define "on some PC" when running GTA IV. Core 2 Duo 2Ghz + Radeon X1950 Pro can run it just fine.
Halo 4 renders at 720p http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-09-26-frank-oconnor-on-how-halo-4-gets-the-most-out-of-the-7-year-old-xbox-360
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Nov 10, 2012 6:29 am GMT

ronvalencia wrote:

V4LENT1NE wrote:

ronvalencia wrote:

Crysis 2 on Radeon X1950 Pro runs like Xbox 360's Crysis 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHWPGmf_A_0
Wii U's multi-platfrom game results are like any mobile Radeon HD @35 watts e.g. Radeon HD 4670M(320 SPs) to E6760 (480 SPs).
"Console optimizations" doesn't automatcially promote it's GPU to another level.
HD 7970 has 3789 GFLOPs while HD 7850 has 1761 GFLOPs.
It sorta does take it to a new level though, Xbox also has like what 500mb of RAM or something, a 7 year old CPU and GPU and then you see something like Halo 4 in 1080p and it looks amazing. PC is also so hit and miss nowadays, look at GTA4 for example, runs great on Xbox all be it at pretty low settings, but lags like **** on some PCs even on uber hardware, consoles will always have that optimization advantage because devs know exactly what the hardware is. No way in hell I would say that GPU will be fine in even 4 years, PC game optimization is to hit and miss.
Halo 4 renders at 720p http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-09-26-frank-oconnor-on-how-halo-4-gets-the-most-out-of-the-7-year-old-xbox-360
As for GTA IV PC, this game only runs on a single CPU core.

GTA runs on far more than one core...
[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]
[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"][QUOTE="ronvalencia"]
Crysis 2 on Radeon X1950 Pro runs like Xbox 360's Crysis 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHWPGmf_A_0
Wii U's multi-platfrom game results are like any mobile Radeon HD @35 watts e.g. Radeon HD 4670M(320 SPs) to E6760 (480 SPs).
"Console optimizations" doesn't automatcially promote it's GPU to another level.
HD 7970 has 3789 GFLOPs while HD 7850 has 1761 GFLOPs.
[/QUOTE] It sorta does take it to a new level though, Xbox also has like what 500mb of RAM or something, a 7 year old CPU and GPU and then you see something like Halo 4 in 1080p and it looks amazing. PC is also so hit and miss nowadays, look at GTA4 for example, runs great on Xbox all be it at pretty low settings, but lags like **** on some PCs even on uber hardware, consoles will always have that optimization advantage because devs know exactly what the hardware is. No way in hell I would say that GPU will be fine in even 4 years, PC game optimization is to hit and miss.[/QUOTE]
Halo 4 renders at 720p http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-09-26-frank-oconnor-on-how-halo-4-gets-the-most-out-of-the-7-year-old-xbox-360
As for GTA IV PC, this game only runs on a single CPU core.
[/QUOTE] GTA runs on far more than one core...
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Nov 10, 2012 6:34 am GMT

kraken2109 wrote:

ronvalencia wrote:

V4LENT1NE wrote:

It sorta does take it to a new level though, Xbox also has like what 500mb of RAM or something, a 7 year old CPU and GPU and then you see something like Halo 4 in 1080p and it looks amazing. PC is also so hit and miss nowadays, look at GTA4 for example, runs great on Xbox all be it at pretty low settings, but lags like **** on some PCs even on uber hardware, consoles will always have that optimization advantage because devs know exactly what the hardware is. No way in hell I would say that GPU will be fine in even 4 years, PC game optimization is to hit and miss.
Halo 4 renders at 720p http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-09-26-frank-oconnor-on-how-halo-4-gets-the-most-out-of-the-7-year-old-xbox-360
As for GTA IV PC, this game only runs on a single CPU core.
GTA runs on far more than one core...
You are forgetting DirectX9c's GPU command buffer generation limitations i.e. single CPU core. DirectX11 enables multi-threaded GPU command generation on the PC.
Xbox 360 doesn't have this DirectX9c issue. The PC has to rely on powerful heavy out-of-order CPU designs instead of Intel Atom level CPU designs.

Xbox 360's PPE X3 is like having three Intel Atoms @ 3.2Ghz with 1.6Ghz L2 cache i.e. both are dual instruction issue per cycle in-order CPU designs.
Intel X86 PCs always has the option for four instruction issue per cycle with heavy out-of-order CPU designs with synchronized L2 clock speed. Mainline PC CPUs are more advance than the PowerPC G1 type(PPE) CPU designs in the Xbox 360.
It's unlikely, that an entry level gaming PC would be based on Intel Atom X3 CPU i.e. the minimium would be AMD Llano (AMD K10) or Trinity (AMD Piledriver) APUs.
PS4's AMD's Trinity CPU selection would be a big jump in the CPU (as a command role processor unit) power i.e. PowerPC G5 (similar to AMD K8) type design instead of PowerPC G1 (similar to PPE) type design.
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[QUOTE="kraken2109"][QUOTE="ronvalencia"]
[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"] It sorta does take it to a new level though, Xbox also has like what 500mb of RAM or something, a 7 year old CPU and GPU and then you see something like Halo 4 in 1080p and it looks amazing. PC is also so hit and miss nowadays, look at GTA4 for example, runs great on Xbox all be it at pretty low settings, but lags like **** on some PCs even on uber hardware, consoles will always have that optimization advantage because devs know exactly what the hardware is. No way in hell I would say that GPU will be fine in even 4 years, PC game optimization is to hit and miss.[/QUOTE]
Halo 4 renders at 720p http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-09-26-frank-oconnor-on-how-halo-4-gets-the-most-out-of-the-7-year-old-xbox-360
As for GTA IV PC, this game only runs on a single CPU core.
[/QUOTE] GTA runs on far more than one core...[/QUOTE]
You are forgetting DirectX9c's GPU command buffer generation limitations i.e. single CPU core. DirectX11 enables multi-threaded GPU command generation on the PC.
Xbox 360 doesn't have this DirectX9c issue. The PC has to rely on powerful heavy out-of-order CPU designs instead of Intel Atom level CPU designs.

Xbox 360's PPE X3 is like having three Intel Atoms @ 3.2Ghz with 1.6Ghz L2 cache i.e. both are dual instruction issue per cycle in-order CPU designs.
Intel X86 PCs always has the option for four instruction issue per cycle with heavy out-of-order CPU designs with synchronized L2 clock speed. Mainline PC CPUs are more advance than the PowerPC G1 type(PPE) CPU designs in the Xbox 360.
It's unlikely, that an entry level gaming PC would be based on Intel Atom X3 CPU i.e. the minimium would be AMD Llano (AMD K10) or Trinity (AMD Piledriver) APUs.
PS4's AMD's Trinity CPU selection would be a big jump in the CPU (as a command role processor unit) power i.e. PowerPC G5 (similar to AMD K8) type design instead of PowerPC G1 (similar to PPE) type design.
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V4LENT1NE wrote:

ronvalencia wrote:

V4LENT1NE wrote:

Pretty stupid comment to be honest. Consoles have much better optimization then a PC game, comparing the two is ridiculous.
Crysis 2 on Radeon X1950 Pro runs like Xbox 360's Crysis 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHWPGmf_A_0
Wii U's multi-platfrom game results are like any mobile Radeon HD @35 watts e.g. Radeon HD 4670M(320 SPs) to E6760 (480 SPs).
"Console optimizations" doesn't automatcially promote it's GPU to another level.
HD 7970 has 3789 GFLOPs while HD 7850 has 1761 GFLOPs.

It sorta does take it to a new level though, Xbox also has like what 500mb of RAM or something, a 7 year old CPU and GPU and then you see something like Halo 4 in 1080p and it looks amazing. PC is also so hit and miss nowadays, look at GTA4 for example, runs great on Xbox all be it at pretty low settings, but lags like **** on some PCs even on uber hardware, consoles will always have that optimization advantage because devs know exactly what the hardware is. No way in hell I would say that GPU will be fine in even 4 years, PC game optimization is to hit and miss.
NVIDIA Geforce 8800 is more than 4 years old and still runs multi-platform games better than Xbox 360.
NVIDIA Geforce 8800 has about twice the raw power over AMD Xenos.
Radeon HD 7970 has about twice the raw power over AMD Radeon 7850 e.g. 7970 can sustained Eyefinity (5760x1080p, thats three 1920x1080 monitors) gaming better than 7850 (mostly in 1920x1080p).
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[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"][QUOTE="ronvalencia"]
[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"] Pretty stupid comment to be honest. Consoles have much better optimization then a PC game, comparing the two is ridiculous.[/QUOTE]
Crysis 2 on Radeon X1950 Pro runs like Xbox 360's Crysis 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHWPGmf_A_0
Wii U's multi-platfrom game results are like any mobile Radeon HD @35 watts e.g. Radeon HD 4670M(320 SPs) to E6760 (480 SPs).
"Console optimizations" doesn't automatcially promote it's GPU to another level.
HD 7970 has 3789 GFLOPs while HD 7850 has 1761 GFLOPs.

[/QUOTE] It sorta does take it to a new level though, Xbox also has like what 500mb of RAM or something, a 7 year old CPU and GPU and then you see something like Halo 4 in 1080p and it looks amazing. PC is also so hit and miss nowadays, look at GTA4 for example, runs great on Xbox all be it at pretty low settings, but lags like **** on some PCs even on uber hardware, consoles will always have that optimization advantage because devs know exactly what the hardware is. No way in hell I would say that GPU will be fine in even 4 years, PC game optimization is to hit and miss.[/QUOTE]
NVIDIA Geforce 8800 is more than 4 years old and still runs multi-platform games better than Xbox 360.
NVIDIA Geforce 8800 has about twice the raw power over AMD Xenos.
Radeon HD 7970 has about twice the raw power over AMD Radeon 7850 e.g. 7970 can sustained Eyefinity (5760x1080p, thats three 1920x1080 monitors) gaming better than 7850 (mostly in 1920x1080p).
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Nov 10, 2012 7:49 am GMT

V4LENT1NE wrote:

ronvalencia wrote:

V4LENT1NE wrote:

Pretty stupid comment to be honest. Consoles have much better optimization then a PC game, comparing the two is ridiculous.
Crysis 2 on Radeon X1950 Pro runs like Xbox 360's Crysis 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHWPGmf_A_0
Wii U's multi-platfrom game results are like any mobile Radeon HD @35 watts e.g. Radeon HD 4670M(320 SPs) to E6760 (480 SPs).
"Console optimizations" doesn't automatcially promote it's GPU to another level.
HD 7970 has 3789 GFLOPs while HD 7850 has 1761 GFLOPs.
It sorta does take it to a new level though, Xbox also has like what 500mb of RAM or something, a 7 year old CPU and GPU and then you see something like Halo 4 in 1080p and it looks amazing. PC is also so hit and miss nowadays, look at GTA4 for example, runs great on Xbox all be it at pretty low settings, but lags like **** on some PCs even on uber hardware, consoles will always have that optimization advantage because devs know exactly what the hardware is. No way in hell I would say that GPU will be fine in even 4 years, PC game optimization is to hit and miss.
What you are thinking is 1080p isn't 1080p
[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"][QUOTE="ronvalencia"]
[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"] Pretty stupid comment to be honest. Consoles have much better optimization then a PC game, comparing the two is ridiculous.[/QUOTE]
Crysis 2 on Radeon X1950 Pro runs like Xbox 360's Crysis 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHWPGmf_A_0
Wii U's multi-platfrom game results are like any mobile Radeon HD @35 watts e.g. Radeon HD 4670M(320 SPs) to E6760 (480 SPs).
"Console optimizations" doesn't automatcially promote it's GPU to another level.
HD 7970 has 3789 GFLOPs while HD 7850 has 1761 GFLOPs.
[/QUOTE] It sorta does take it to a new level though, Xbox also has like what 500mb of RAM or something, a 7 year old CPU and GPU and then you see something like Halo 4 in 1080p and it looks amazing. PC is also so hit and miss nowadays, look at GTA4 for example, runs great on Xbox all be it at pretty low settings, but lags like **** on some PCs even on uber hardware, consoles will always have that optimization advantage because devs know exactly what the hardware is. No way in hell I would say that GPU will be fine in even 4 years, PC game optimization is to hit and miss.[/QUOTE]
What you are thinking is 1080p isn't 1080p
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Nov 10, 2012 8:18 am GMT

V4LENT1NE wrote:

ronvalencia wrote:

V4LENT1NE wrote:

Pretty stupid comment to be honest. Consoles have much better optimization then a PC game, comparing the two is ridiculous.
Crysis 2 on Radeon X1950 Pro runs like Xbox 360's Crysis 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHWPGmf_A_0
Wii U's multi-platfrom game results are like any mobile Radeon HD @35 watts e.g. Radeon HD 4670M(320 SPs) to E6760 (480 SPs).
"Console optimizations" doesn't automatcially promote it's GPU to another level.
HD 7970 has 3789 GFLOPs while HD 7850 has 1761 GFLOPs.
It sorta does take it to a new level though, Xbox also has like what 500mb of RAM or something, a 7 year old CPU and GPU and then you see something like Halo 4 in 1080p and it looks amazing. PC is also so hit and miss nowadays, look at GTA4 for example, runs great on Xbox all be it at pretty low settings, but lags like **** on some PCs even on uber hardware, consoles will always have that optimization advantage because devs know exactly what the hardware is. No way in hell I would say that GPU will be fine in even 4 years, PC game optimization is to hit and miss.
-No Xbox 360 games are rendered in 1080p. They top out at 720p and are upscaled to 1080p through HDMI
-GTA 4 on Xbox 360 doesn't run great. It chugs quite a bit and only manages to run as well as it does because the detail and draw distances have been seriously dumbed-down
-The Geforce 8800GTX is 6 years old. There are people still running new games on those at medium detail settings at 720p and above.
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[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"][QUOTE="ronvalencia"]
[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"] Pretty stupid comment to be honest. Consoles have much better optimization then a PC game, comparing the two is ridiculous.[/QUOTE]
Crysis 2 on Radeon X1950 Pro runs like Xbox 360's Crysis 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHWPGmf_A_0
Wii U's multi-platfrom game results are like any mobile Radeon HD @35 watts e.g. Radeon HD 4670M(320 SPs) to E6760 (480 SPs).
"Console optimizations" doesn't automatcially promote it's GPU to another level.
HD 7970 has 3789 GFLOPs while HD 7850 has 1761 GFLOPs.
[/QUOTE] It sorta does take it to a new level though, Xbox also has like what 500mb of RAM or something, a 7 year old CPU and GPU and then you see something like Halo 4 in 1080p and it looks amazing. PC is also so hit and miss nowadays, look at GTA4 for example, runs great on Xbox all be it at pretty low settings, but lags like **** on some PCs even on uber hardware, consoles will always have that optimization advantage because devs know exactly what the hardware is. No way in hell I would say that GPU will be fine in even 4 years, PC game optimization is to hit and miss.[/QUOTE]
-No Xbox 360 games are rendered in 1080p. They top out at 720p and are upscaled to 1080p through HDMI
-GTA 4 on Xbox 360 doesn't run great. It chugs quite a bit and only manages to run as well as it does because the detail and draw distances have been seriously dumbed-down
-The Geforce 8800GTX is 6 years old. There are people still running new games on those at medium detail settings at 720p and above.
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kraken2109

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Nov 10, 2012 8:35 am GMT

ronvalencia wrote:

kraken2109 wrote:

ronvalencia wrote:

Halo 4 renders at 720p http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-09-26-frank-oconnor-on-how-halo-4-gets-the-most-out-of-the-7-year-old-xbox-360
As for GTA IV PC, this game only runs on a single CPU core.
GTA runs on far more than one core...
You are forgetting DirectX9c's GPU command buffer generation limitations i.e. single CPU core. DirectX11 enables multi-threaded GPU command generation on the PC.
Xbox 360 doesn't have this DirectX9c issue. The PC has to rely on powerful heavy out-of-order CPU designs instead of Intel Atom level CPU designs.

Xbox 360's PPE X3 is like having three Intel Atoms @ 3.2Ghz with 1.6Ghz L2 cache i.e. both are dual instruction issue per cycle in-order CPU designs.
Intel X86 PCs always has the option for four instruction issue per cycle with heavy out-of-order CPU designs with synchronized L2 clock speed. Mainline PC CPUs are more advance than the PowerPC G1 type(PPE) CPU designs in the Xbox 360.
It's unlikely, that an entry level gaming PC would be based on Intel Atom X3 CPU i.e. the minimium would be AMD Llano (AMD K10) or Trinity (AMD Piledriver) APUs.
PS4's AMD's Trinity CPU selection would be a big jump in the CPU (as a command role processor unit) power i.e. PowerPC G5 (similar to AMD K8) type design instead of PowerPC G1 (similar to PPE) type design.

Can someone translate
[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]
[QUOTE="kraken2109"][QUOTE="ronvalencia"]
Halo 4 renders at 720p http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-09-26-frank-oconnor-on-how-halo-4-gets-the-most-out-of-the-7-year-old-xbox-360
As for GTA IV PC, this game only runs on a single CPU core.
[/QUOTE] GTA runs on far more than one core...[/QUOTE]
You are forgetting DirectX9c's GPU command buffer generation limitations i.e. single CPU core. DirectX11 enables multi-threaded GPU command generation on the PC.
Xbox 360 doesn't have this DirectX9c issue. The PC has to rely on powerful heavy out-of-order CPU designs instead of Intel Atom level CPU designs.

Xbox 360's PPE X3 is like having three Intel Atoms @ 3.2Ghz with 1.6Ghz L2 cache i.e. both are dual instruction issue per cycle in-order CPU designs.
Intel X86 PCs always has the option for four instruction issue per cycle with heavy out-of-order CPU designs with synchronized L2 clock speed. Mainline PC CPUs are more advance than the PowerPC G1 type(PPE) CPU designs in the Xbox 360.
It's unlikely, that an entry level gaming PC would be based on Intel Atom X3 CPU i.e. the minimium would be AMD Llano (AMD K10) or Trinity (AMD Piledriver) APUs.
PS4's AMD's Trinity CPU selection would be a big jump in the CPU (as a command role processor unit) power i.e. PowerPC G5 (similar to AMD K8) type design instead of PowerPC G1 (similar to PPE) type design.
[/QUOTE] Can someone translate
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Nov 10, 2012 9:35 am GMT
From a strictly gaming viewpoint? No. My PC is still fine.
But, from an upgrade itch point of view, sure. Since I bought an Nvidia card last time, the next card will be AMD. I'll just wait until next year if I assemble a new PC.
AMD 4.0 Ghz FX-8350/ASUS M5A78L-M/GTX 560 Ti and PS3 + Eagle Eye Combo
From a strictly gaming viewpoint? No. My PC is still fine.
But, from an upgrade itch point of view, sure. Since I bought an Nvidia card last time, the next card will be AMD. I'll just wait until next year if I assemble a new PC.
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Nov 11, 2012 8:14 am GMT
My GTX 480 is showing its age, I'll probably wait for nvidia's 700 series and upgrade. And the reason I only use Nvidia is because I need CUDA for my work so sadly no AMD option for me.
Some of my 3D models can be found on turbosquid
My GTX 480 is showing its age, I'll probably wait for nvidia's 700 series and upgrade. And the reason I only use Nvidia is because I need CUDA for my work so sadly no AMD option for me.
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Nov 11, 2012 1:54 pm GMT
You learn something new every day ^_^
You learn something new every day ^_^
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ronvalencia

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Nov 12, 2012 4:21 am GMT

kraken2109 wrote:

ronvalencia wrote:

kraken2109 wrote:

GTA runs on far more than one core...
You are forgetting DirectX9c's GPU command buffer generation limitations i.e. single CPU core. DirectX11 enables multi-threaded GPU command generation on the PC.
Xbox 360 doesn't have this DirectX9c issue. The PC has to rely on powerful heavy out-of-order CPU designs instead of Intel Atom level CPU designs.

Xbox 360's PPE X3 is like having three Intel Atoms @ 3.2Ghz with 1.6Ghz L2 cache i.e. both are dual instruction issue per cycle in-order CPU designs.
Intel X86 PCs always has the option for four instruction issue per cycle with heavy out-of-order CPU designs with synchronized L2 clock speed. Mainline PC CPUs are more advance than the PowerPC G1 type(PPE) CPU designs in the Xbox 360.
It's unlikely, that an entry level gaming PC would be based on Intel Atom X3 CPU i.e. the minimium would be AMD Llano (AMD K10) or Trinity (AMD Piledriver) APUs.
PS4's AMD's Trinity CPU selection would be a big jump in the CPU (as a command role processor unit) power i.e. PowerPC G5 (similar to AMD K8) type design instead of PowerPC G1 (similar to PPE) type design.
Can someone translate
Which section?
Intel Atom or IBM PPE CPU core = 2 cylinders block, no turbo charger. Xbox 360 has three 2 cylinder blocks with a total of 6 cylinders.
Intel Core i3/i5/i7 CPU core = 4 cylinders block with heavy turbo chargers. Intel Core i3 has two 4 cylinder blocks with a total of 8 cylinders.
AMD PileDriver CPU core = 2 cylinders block with heavy turbo chargers. AMD Trinity has four 2 cylinders blocks with a total of 8 cylinders.

Edited on Nov 12, 2012 4:30 am GMT
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[QUOTE="kraken2109"][QUOTE="ronvalencia"]
[QUOTE="kraken2109"] GTA runs on far more than one core...[/QUOTE]
You are forgetting DirectX9c's GPU command buffer generation limitations i.e. single CPU core. DirectX11 enables multi-threaded GPU command generation on the PC.
Xbox 360 doesn't have this DirectX9c issue. The PC has to rely on powerful heavy out-of-order CPU designs instead of Intel Atom level CPU designs.

Xbox 360's PPE X3 is like having three Intel Atoms @ 3.2Ghz with 1.6Ghz L2 cache i.e. both are dual instruction issue per cycle in-order CPU designs.
Intel X86 PCs always has the option for four instruction issue per cycle with heavy out-of-order CPU designs with synchronized L2 clock speed. Mainline PC CPUs are more advance than the PowerPC G1 type(PPE) CPU designs in the Xbox 360.
It's unlikely, that an entry level gaming PC would be based on Intel Atom X3 CPU i.e. the minimium would be AMD Llano (AMD K10) or Trinity (AMD Piledriver) APUs.
PS4's AMD's Trinity CPU selection would be a big jump in the CPU (as a command role processor unit) power i.e. PowerPC G5 (similar to AMD K8) type design instead of PowerPC G1 (similar to PPE) type design.
[/QUOTE] Can someone translate[/QUOTE]
Which section?
Intel Atom or IBM PPE CPU core = 2 cylinders block, no turbo charger. Xbox 360 has three 2 cylinder blocks with a total of 6 cylinders.
Intel Core i3/i5/i7 CPU core = 4 cylinders block with heavy turbo chargers. Intel Core i3 has two 4 cylinder blocks with a total of 8 cylinders.
AMD PileDriver CPU core = 2 cylinders block with heavy turbo chargers. AMD Trinity has four 2 cylinders blocks with a total of 8 cylinders.
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kraken2109

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Nov 12, 2012 8:46 am GMT

ronvalencia wrote:

kraken2109 wrote:

ronvalencia wrote:

You are forgetting DirectX9c's GPU command buffer generation limitations i.e. single CPU core. DirectX11 enables multi-threaded GPU command generation on the PC.
Xbox 360 doesn't have this DirectX9c issue. The PC has to rely on powerful heavy out-of-order CPU designs instead of Intel Atom level CPU designs.

Xbox 360's PPE X3 is like having three Intel Atoms @ 3.2Ghz with 1.6Ghz L2 cache i.e. both are dual instruction issue per cycle in-order CPU designs.
Intel X86 PCs always has the option for four instruction issue per cycle with heavy out-of-order CPU designs with synchronized L2 clock speed. Mainline PC CPUs are more advance than the PowerPC G1 type(PPE) CPU designs in the Xbox 360.
It's unlikely, that an entry level gaming PC would be based on Intel Atom X3 CPU i.e. the minimium would be AMD Llano (AMD K10) or Trinity (AMD Piledriver) APUs.
PS4's AMD's Trinity CPU selection would be a big jump in the CPU (as a command role processor unit) power i.e. PowerPC G5 (similar to AMD K8) type design instead of PowerPC G1 (similar to PPE) type design.
Can someone translate
Which section?
Intel Atom or IBM PPE CPU core = 2 cylinders block, no turbo charger. Xbox 360 has three 2 cylinder blocks with a total of 6 cylinders.
Intel Core i3/i5/i7 CPU core = 4 cylinders block with heavy turbo chargers. Intel Core i3 has two 4 cylinder blocks with a total of 8 cylinders.
AMD PileDriver CPU core = 2 cylinders block with heavy turbo chargers. AMD Trinity has four 2 cylinders blocks with a total of 8 cylinders.

What does that have to do with my post..?
[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]
[QUOTE="kraken2109"][QUOTE="ronvalencia"]
You are forgetting DirectX9c's GPU command buffer generation limitations i.e. single CPU core. DirectX11 enables multi-threaded GPU command generation on the PC.
Xbox 360 doesn't have this DirectX9c issue. The PC has to rely on powerful heavy out-of-order CPU designs instead of Intel Atom level CPU designs.

Xbox 360's PPE X3 is like having three Intel Atoms @ 3.2Ghz with 1.6Ghz L2 cache i.e. both are dual instruction issue per cycle in-order CPU designs.
Intel X86 PCs always has the option for four instruction issue per cycle with heavy out-of-order CPU designs with synchronized L2 clock speed. Mainline PC CPUs are more advance than the PowerPC G1 type(PPE) CPU designs in the Xbox 360.
It's unlikely, that an entry level gaming PC would be based on Intel Atom X3 CPU i.e. the minimium would be AMD Llano (AMD K10) or Trinity (AMD Piledriver) APUs.
PS4's AMD's Trinity CPU selection would be a big jump in the CPU (as a command role processor unit) power i.e. PowerPC G5 (similar to AMD K8) type design instead of PowerPC G1 (similar to PPE) type design.
[/QUOTE] Can someone translate[/QUOTE]
Which section?
Intel Atom or IBM PPE CPU core = 2 cylinders block, no turbo charger. Xbox 360 has three 2 cylinder blocks with a total of 6 cylinders.
Intel Core i3/i5/i7 CPU core = 4 cylinders block with heavy turbo chargers. Intel Core i3 has two 4 cylinder blocks with a total of 8 cylinders.
AMD PileDriver CPU core = 2 cylinders block with heavy turbo chargers. AMD Trinity has four 2 cylinders blocks with a total of 8 cylinders.

[/QUOTE] What does that have to do with my post..?
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ronvalencia

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Nov 12, 2012 4:24 pm GMT

kraken2109 wrote:

ronvalencia wrote:

kraken2109 wrote:

Can someone translate
Which section?
Intel Atom or IBM PPE CPU core = 2 cylinders block, no turbo charger. Xbox 360 has three 2 cylinder blocks with a total of 6 cylinders.
Intel Core i3/i5/i7 CPU core = 4 cylinders block with heavy turbo chargers. Intel Core i3 has two 4 cylinder blocks with a total of 8 cylinders.
AMD PileDriver CPU core = 2 cylinders block with heavy turbo chargers. AMD Trinity has four 2 cylinders blocks with a total of 8 cylinders.

What does that have to do with my post..?

You asked for "Can someone translate?"
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[QUOTE="kraken2109"][QUOTE="ronvalencia"]
[QUOTE="kraken2109"] Can someone translate[/QUOTE]
Which section?
Intel Atom or IBM PPE CPU core = 2 cylinders block, no turbo charger. Xbox 360 has three 2 cylinder blocks with a total of 6 cylinders.
Intel Core i3/i5/i7 CPU core = 4 cylinders block with heavy turbo chargers. Intel Core i3 has two 4 cylinder blocks with a total of 8 cylinders.
AMD PileDriver CPU core = 2 cylinders block with heavy turbo chargers. AMD Trinity has four 2 cylinders blocks with a total of 8 cylinders.

[/QUOTE] What does that have to do with my post..?[/QUOTE] You asked for "Can someone translate?"
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Nov 12, 2012 4:54 pm GMT
the thread title should be - 'anyone buying an 8 series card which will only be 5% improvement and slightly less power consumption for a ridiculously overpriced card when you could get the 7970 or 7950 cheaper end of thread title.'
the thread title should be - 'anyone buying an 8 series card which will only be 5% improvement and slightly less power consumption for a ridiculously overpriced card when you could get the 7970 or 7950 cheaper end of thread title.'
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Nov 12, 2012 5:57 pm GMT

jakes456 wrote:

the thread title should be - 'anyone buying an 8 series card which will only be 5% improvement and slightly less power consumption for a ridiculously overpriced card when you could get the 7970 or 7950 cheaper end of thread title.'
holy underestimation batman
[QUOTE="jakes456"]
the thread title should be - 'anyone buying an 8 series card which will only be 5% improvement and slightly less power consumption for a ridiculously overpriced card when you could get the 7970 or 7950 cheaper end of thread title.'
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