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Obama, Romney refuse to debate Gary Johnson

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  • Level 36
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    Oct 2, 2012 5:14 pm GMT
    Abbeten wrote:
    KC_Hokie wrote:
    The few polls that include all candidates show Johnson with 6% with Stein and Goode both getting 1%.

    Did you really just say that after I linked to a poll that included all the candidates and showed Johnson with 3% and Goode with less than 1?
    Yea, look at the date.
    "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul, can always count on the support of Paul" - George Bernard Shaw
    [QUOTE="Abbeten"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="Abbeten"] http://www.gallup.com/poll/155537/little-support-third-party-candidates-2012-election.aspx[/QUOTE]The few polls that include all candidates show Johnson with 6% with Stein and Goode both getting 1%. [/QUOTE] Did you really just say that after I linked to a poll that included all the candidates and showed Johnson with 3% and Goode with less than 1?[/QUOTE]Yea, look at the date.
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    mingmao3046 wrote:
    champion837 wrote:

    Jesus-Jew wrote:
    RON PAUL 2016

    No thanks. Ron Paul has some very ridiculous policies.

    yea ron paul is such a bad choice...

    lol since when has writing a book on something made you an expert on it

    Something you all probably don't know is that him and Clint Eastwood fended off an attack from robot
    ninjas and saved OT. Thanks Chessmaster! (And Clint Eastwood ) - DJ-Lafleur
    That's all well and good in practice, but how does it work in theory?

    [QUOTE="mingmao3046"][QUOTE="champion837"]

    [QUOTE="Jesus-Jew"]RON PAUL 2016[/QUOTE]

    No thanks. Ron Paul has some very ridiculous policies.

    [/QUOTE] yea ron paul is such a bad choice... [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/lhnOX.jpg[/IMG] [/QUOTE]

    lol since when has writing a book on something made you an expert on it :lol:

  • Level 3
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    Oct 2, 2012 5:15 pm GMT
    Paul is a p. bad choice, IMO.
    Paul is a p. bad choice, IMO.
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    Oct 2, 2012 5:15 pm GMT
    RON PAUL 2142
    RON PAUL 2142
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    Oct 2, 2012 5:16 pm GMT
    chessmaster1989 wrote:

    mingmao3046 wrote:
    champion837 wrote:

    No thanks. Ron Paul has some very ridiculous policies.

    yea ron paul is such a bad choice... .imgur.com/lhnOX.jpg

    lol since when has writing a book on something made you an expert on it


    when you write a book about something, it shows you have a keen interest in said thing. nothing about book=expert
    [QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

    [QUOTE="mingmao3046"][QUOTE="champion837"]

    No thanks. Ron Paul has some very ridiculous policies.

    [/QUOTE] yea ron paul is such a bad choice... .imgur.com/lhnOX.jpg[/QUOTE]

    lol since when has writing a book on something made you an expert on it :lol:

    [/QUOTE] when you write a book about something, it shows you have a keen interest in said thing. nothing about book=expert
  • Level 20
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    Oct 2, 2012 5:19 pm GMT
    KC_Hokie wrote:
    Abbeten wrote:
    KC_Hokie wrote:
    I'm not I'm pointing out 6-10% of the popular vote is a lot of people. Therefore, we deserve more than two candidates debating.

    The 6% is spread among 3 people, which means we'd have to double the size of the debate to put people in who would need almost a 50% bump in the polls to win.
    That's the way it should be. Ross Perot was around 5% prior to the debates in 1988. The two third party people that have a real chance this year are both being shut out.
    Perot actually had double that prior to the debates, not to mention a vast fortune that Johnson simply doesn't have (and a populist platform that was waaaaay more popular than libertarianism). He also ended up getting 19% of the popular vote and no electoral votes. And he was STILL the most successful third party candidate of all time. Why do you think Gary Johnson has a real chance?
    [QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="Abbeten"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]I'm not I'm pointing out 6-10% of the popular vote is a lot of people. Therefore, we deserve more than two candidates debating. [/QUOTE] The 6% is spread among 3 people, which means we'd have to double the size of the debate to put people in who would need almost a 50% bump in the polls to win. [/QUOTE]That's the way it should be. Ross Perot was around 5% prior to the debates in 1988. The two third party people that have a real chance this year are both being shut out.[/QUOTE] Perot actually had double that prior to the debates, not to mention a vast fortune that Johnson simply doesn't have (and a populist platform that was waaaaay more popular than libertarianism). He also ended up getting 19% of the popular vote and no electoral votes. And he was STILL the most successful third party candidate of all time. Why do you think Gary Johnson has a real chance?
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    Oct 2, 2012 5:20 pm GMT
    mingmao3046 wrote:
    chessmaster1989 wrote:

    mingmao3046 wrote:
    yea ron paul is such a bad choice... .imgur.com/lhnOX.jpg

    lol since when has writing a book on something made you an expert on it


    when you write a book about something, it shows you have a keen interest in said thing. nothing about book=expert

    Okay but someone having an interesting in something doesn't mean they have to be asked their opinion.

    Something you all probably don't know is that him and Clint Eastwood fended off an attack from robot
    ninjas and saved OT. Thanks Chessmaster! (And Clint Eastwood ) - DJ-Lafleur
    That's all well and good in practice, but how does it work in theory?

    [QUOTE="mingmao3046"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

    [QUOTE="mingmao3046"] yea ron paul is such a bad choice... .imgur.com/lhnOX.jpg[/QUOTE]

    lol since when has writing a book on something made you an expert on it :lol:

    [/QUOTE] when you write a book about something, it shows you have a keen interest in said thing. nothing about book=expert[/QUOTE] Okay but someone having an interesting in something doesn't mean they have to be asked their opinion.
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    Oct 2, 2012 5:21 pm GMT
    chessmaster1989 wrote:
    mingmao3046 wrote:
    chessmaster1989 wrote:

    lol since when has writing a book on something made you an expert on it


    when you write a book about something, it shows you have a keen interest in said thing. nothing about book=expert

    Okay but someone having an interesting in something doesn't mean they have to be asked their opinion.

    seems like he kind of should when he was the only one up there with a stance other than "bernanke is doing a good job...i wouldnt worry about the fed..."
    [QUOTE="chessmaster1989"][QUOTE="mingmao3046"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

    lol since when has writing a book on something made you an expert on it :lol:

    [/QUOTE] when you write a book about something, it shows you have a keen interest in said thing. nothing about book=expert[/QUOTE] Okay but someone having an interesting in something doesn't mean they have to be asked their opinion.[/QUOTE] seems like he kind of should when he was the only one up there with a stance other than "bernanke is doing a good job...i wouldnt worry about the fed..."
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    Oct 2, 2012 5:23 pm GMT
    mingmao3046 wrote:
    chessmaster1989 wrote:
    mingmao3046 wrote:

    when you write a book about something, it shows you have a keen interest in said thing. nothing about book=expert

    Okay but someone having an interesting in something doesn't mean they have to be asked their opinion.

    seems like he kind of should when he was the only one up there with a stance other than "bernanke is doing a good job...i wouldnt worry about the fed..."

    There are a lot of people who are critical of Bernanke. Many of whom are infinitely more informed than Ron Paul on economics.
    [QUOTE="mingmao3046"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"][QUOTE="mingmao3046"] when you write a book about something, it shows you have a keen interest in said thing. nothing about book=expert[/QUOTE] Okay but someone having an interesting in something doesn't mean they have to be asked their opinion.[/QUOTE] seems like he kind of should when he was the only one up there with a stance other than "bernanke is doing a good job...i wouldnt worry about the fed..."[/QUOTE] There are a lot of people who are critical of Bernanke. Many of whom are infinitely more informed than Ron Paul on economics.
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    Oct 2, 2012 5:24 pm GMT
    Abbeten wrote:
    mingmao3046 wrote:
    chessmaster1989 wrote:

    Okay but someone having an interesting in something doesn't mean they have to be asked their opinion.

    seems like he kind of should when he was the only one up there with a stance other than "bernanke is doing a good job...i wouldnt worry about the fed..."

    There are a lot of people who are critical of Bernanke. Many of whom are infinitely more informed than Ron Paul on economics.
    none of the other politicians running seemed to care about bernanke
    [QUOTE="Abbeten"][QUOTE="mingmao3046"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"] Okay but someone having an interesting in something doesn't mean they have to be asked their opinion.[/QUOTE] seems like he kind of should when he was the only one up there with a stance other than "bernanke is doing a good job...i wouldnt worry about the fed..."[/QUOTE] There are a lot of people who are critical of Bernanke. Many of whom are infinitely more informed than Ron Paul on economics. [/QUOTE]none of the other politicians running seemed to care about bernanke
  • Level 20
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    Oct 2, 2012 5:27 pm GMT
    Man, even Romney was hating on Bernanke. Ron Paul WAS the only person up there calling for an end to the fed though. And there's a reason for that.

    (The reason is that he's crazy)
    Man, even Romney was hating on Bernanke. Ron Paul WAS the only person up there calling for an end to the fed though. And there's a reason for that. (The reason is that he's crazy)
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    Oct 2, 2012 5:27 pm GMT

    mingmao3046 wrote:
    chessmaster1989 wrote:
    mingmao3046 wrote:
    when you write a book about something, it shows you have a keen interest in said thing. nothing about book=expert
    Okay but someone having an interesting in something doesn't mean they have to be asked their opinion.
    seems like he kind of should when he was the only one up there with a stance other than "bernanke is doing a good job...i wouldnt worry about the fed..."

    Having a different opinion alone does not mean that you are entitled to presenting it in a policy discussion. Ideally, it would be economists presenting these arguments, and politicians voting on them.

    Something you all probably don't know is that him and Clint Eastwood fended off an attack from robot
    ninjas and saved OT. Thanks Chessmaster! (And Clint Eastwood ) - DJ-Lafleur
    That's all well and good in practice, but how does it work in theory?

    [QUOTE="mingmao3046"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"][QUOTE="mingmao3046"] when you write a book about something, it shows you have a keen interest in said thing. nothing about book=expert[/QUOTE] Okay but someone having an interesting in something doesn't mean they have to be asked their opinion.[/QUOTE] seems like he kind of should when he was the only one up there with a stance other than "bernanke is doing a good job...i wouldnt worry about the fed..."[/QUOTE]

    Having a different opinion alone does not mean that you are entitled to presenting it in a policy discussion. Ideally, it would be economists presenting these arguments, and politicians voting on them.

  • Level 36
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    Oct 2, 2012 5:29 pm GMT
    Abbeten wrote:
    KC_Hokie wrote:
    Abbeten wrote:

    The 6% is spread among 3 people, which means we'd have to double the size of the debate to put people in who would need almost a 50% bump in the polls to win.
    That's the way it should be. Ross Perot was around 5% prior to the debates in 1988. The two third party people that have a real chance this year are both being shut out.
    Perot actually had double that prior to the debates, not to mention a vast fortune that Johnson simply doesn't have (and a populist platform that was waaaaay more popular than libertarianism). He also ended up getting 19% of the popular vote and no electoral votes. And he was STILL the most successful third party candidate of all time. Why do you think Gary Johnson has a real chance?
    Gary Johnson should certainly be included in the debates.
    "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul, can always count on the support of Paul" - George Bernard Shaw
    [QUOTE="Abbeten"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="Abbeten"] The 6% is spread among 3 people, which means we'd have to double the size of the debate to put people in who would need almost a 50% bump in the polls to win. [/QUOTE]That's the way it should be. Ross Perot was around 5% prior to the debates in 1988. The two third party people that have a real chance this year are both being shut out.[/QUOTE] Perot actually had double that prior to the debates, not to mention a vast fortune that Johnson simply doesn't have (and a populist platform that was waaaaay more popular than libertarianism). He also ended up getting 19% of the popular vote and no electoral votes. And he was STILL the most successful third party candidate of all time. Why do you think Gary Johnson has a real chance?[/QUOTE]Gary Johnson should certainly be included in the debates.
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    Oct 2, 2012 5:29 pm GMT
    Abbeten wrote:
    Man, even Romney was hating on Bernanke. Ron Paul WAS the only person up there calling for an end to the fed though. And there's a reason for that.

    (The reason is that he's crazy)

    Understatement of the fvcking year. That sh!t could break us.
    [QUOTE="Abbeten"]Man, even Romney was hating on Bernanke. Ron Paul WAS the only person up there calling for an end to the fed though. And there's a reason for that. (The reason is that he's crazy)[/QUOTE] Understatement of the fvcking year. That sh!t could break us.
  • Level 63
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    Oct 2, 2012 5:37 pm GMT

    I hate the current politics in this country.

    Anyway, you guys seem to know nothing. You should watch this video interview of Gary Johnson.http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/JohnsonL

    I hate the current politics in this country.

    Anyway, you guys seem to know nothing. You should watch this video interview of Gary Johnson.http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/JohnsonL

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    Oct 2, 2012 5:38 pm GMT
    Abbeten wrote:
    Man, even Romney was hating on Bernanke. Ron Paul WAS the only person up there calling for an end to the fed though. And there's a reason for that.

    (The reason is that he's crazy)

    Ya, you have to be real crazy to want to get out the middle east, actually make some spending cuts, decrease taxes (for everyone), be pro-gun, be against the drug war, etc....
    [QUOTE="Abbeten"]Man, even Romney was hating on Bernanke. Ron Paul WAS the only person up there calling for an end to the fed though. And there's a reason for that. (The reason is that he's crazy)[/QUOTE] Ya, you have to be real crazy to want to get out the middle east, actually make some spending cuts, decrease taxes (for everyone), be pro-gun, be against the drug war, etc....
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    Oct 2, 2012 5:39 pm GMT
    chessmaster1989 wrote:
    Why would they? They literally have no reason to.


    We have a winner.
    coolbeans90 wrote:
    Sometimes, people are called mean names for good reason.

    Bill Maher wrote:
    "New Rule: Libertarians have to stop ruining libertarianism…or at least do a better job of explaining the difference between today's libertarian and just being a selfish prick."
    [QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]Why would they? They literally have no reason to.[/QUOTE] We have a winner.
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    Oct 2, 2012 5:42 pm GMT
    mingmao3046 wrote:
    Abbeten wrote:
    Man, even Romney was hating on Bernanke. Ron Paul WAS the only person up there calling for an end to the fed though. And there's a reason for that.

    (The reason is that he's crazy)

    Ya, you have to be real crazy to want to get out the middle east, actually make some spending cuts, decrease taxes (for everyone), be pro-gun, be against the drug war, etc....

    I wasn't commenting on any of that. He's crazy because of his end-the-fed goldbug kick, regardless of anything else.
    [QUOTE="mingmao3046"][QUOTE="Abbeten"]Man, even Romney was hating on Bernanke. Ron Paul WAS the only person up there calling for an end to the fed though. And there's a reason for that. (The reason is that he's crazy)[/QUOTE] Ya, you have to be real crazy to want to get out the middle east, actually make some spending cuts, decrease taxes (for everyone), be pro-gun, be against the drug war, etc....[/QUOTE] I wasn't commenting on any of that. He's crazy because of his end-the-fed goldbug kick, regardless of anything else.
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    Oct 2, 2012 5:44 pm GMT
    Abbeten wrote:
    mingmao3046 wrote:
    Abbeten wrote:
    Man, even Romney was hating on Bernanke. Ron Paul WAS the only person up there calling for an end to the fed though. And there's a reason for that.

    (The reason is that he's crazy)

    Ya, you have to be real crazy to want to get out the middle east, actually make some spending cuts, decrease taxes (for everyone), be pro-gun, be against the drug war, etc....

    I wasn't commenting on any of that. He's crazy because of his end-the-fed goldbug kick, regardless of anything else.
    how so? federal reserve and income tax is when the government starting expanding rapidly and we got involved in wars we shouldn't have been in
    [QUOTE="Abbeten"][QUOTE="mingmao3046"][QUOTE="Abbeten"]Man, even Romney was hating on Bernanke. Ron Paul WAS the only person up there calling for an end to the fed though. And there's a reason for that. (The reason is that he's crazy)[/QUOTE] Ya, you have to be real crazy to want to get out the middle east, actually make some spending cuts, decrease taxes (for everyone), be pro-gun, be against the drug war, etc....[/QUOTE] I wasn't commenting on any of that. He's crazy because of his end-the-fed goldbug kick, regardless of anything else.[/QUOTE]how so? federal reserve and income tax is when the government starting expanding rapidly and we got involved in wars we shouldn't have been in
  • Level 56
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    Oct 2, 2012 5:45 pm GMT
    So how did Johnsons litigation suit go?

    Down in the Sh*thole, obviously.
    kingkong0124 wrote:

    I also have NFL players entertaining me right now.

    So how did Johnsons litigation suit go? Down in the Sh*thole, obviously.
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