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Fan Negativity Over Mass Effect 3 Endings Caused Bioware Heads To Quit

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    Sep 29, 2012 12:45 am GMT
    funsohng wrote:
    It was sh*t. So what, are we supposed to swallow it and say it's good even though it wasn't? Sure, a lot of people were overreacting, but Bioware should realize that (over)reaction was not without a cause, which was the sh*ttiest ending that one can possibly think of for one of the best franchises in modern gaming.


    And once again, was fixed in four months, for free.

    Almost every problem with the first ending is gone.
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    [QUOTE="funsohng"]It was sh*t. So what, are we supposed to swallow it and say it's good even though it wasn't? Sure, a lot of people were overreacting, but Bioware should realize that (over)reaction was not without a cause, which was the sh*ttiest ending that one can possibly think of for one of the best franchises in modern gaming.[/QUOTE] And once again, was fixed in four months, for free. Almost every problem with the first ending is gone.
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    Sep 29, 2012 12:56 am GMT

    texasgoldrush wrote:
    Mozelleple112 wrote:

    Mass Effect 3's ending is GARGBAGE..

    Here's a pretty accurate list of worst endings in gaming history... Mass effect 3, Mass Effect 1, Mass Effect 2, Halo 2, Halo 3, Crysis.

    Damn ME endings are so bad.

    I am sure MGS4 has great writing....not.

    mgs 4 is better than anything bioware can do.

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    [QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="Mozelleple112"]

    Mass Effect 3's ending is GARGBAGE..

    Here's a pretty accurate list of worst endings in gaming history... Mass effect 3, Mass Effect 1, Mass Effect 2, Halo 2, Halo 3, Crysis.

    Damn ME endings are so bad.

    [/QUOTE] I am sure MGS4 has great writing....not.[/QUOTE]

    mgs 4 is better than anything bioware can do.

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    Sep 29, 2012 1:04 am GMT
    Miroku32 wrote:
    Dunno what to say since I don't publish or make products but I believe that even by all the hate a product take if you surely believe you made a good product then don't let the angry fanboys get you.

    At least for me if I think something I made is good, or great, and someone else thinks it's terrible, that is the biggest letdown.

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    [QUOTE="Miroku32"]Dunno what to say since I don't publish or make products but I believe that even by all the hate a product take if you surely believe you made a good product then don't let the angry fanboys get you. [/QUOTE] At least for me if I think something I made is good, or great, and someone else thinks it's terrible, that is the biggest letdown.
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    Sep 29, 2012 1:07 am GMT

    Everytime I hear about this debate, it reminds me of something that did the rounds on Reddit at the time:

    Mass Effect fans unhappy with Titanic 3D ending

    The best thing is, angry fans did actually did start debating Titanic 3D.

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    Everytime I hear about this debate, it reminds me of something that did the rounds on Reddit at the time:

    Mass Effect fans unhappy with Titanic 3D ending

    The best thing is, angry fans did actually did start debating Titanic 3D.

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    Sep 29, 2012 1:10 am GMT
    Krelian-co wrote:

    texasgoldrush wrote:
    Mozelleple112 wrote:

    Mass Effect 3's ending is GARGBAGE..

    Here's a pretty accurate list of worst endings in gaming history... Mass effect 3, Mass Effect 1, Mass Effect 2, Halo 2, Halo 3, Crysis.

    Damn ME endings are so bad.

    I am sure MGS4 has great writing....not.

    mgs 4 is better than anything bioware can do.



    Please, it got pounded by Fallout 3 when it came to the most GOTY awards that year.

    And MGS4 better than Baldur's Gate II....please.
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    [QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

    [QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="Mozelleple112"]

    Mass Effect 3's ending is GARGBAGE..

    Here's a pretty accurate list of worst endings in gaming history... Mass effect 3, Mass Effect 1, Mass Effect 2, Halo 2, Halo 3, Crysis.

    Damn ME endings are so bad.

    [/QUOTE] I am sure MGS4 has great writing....not.[/QUOTE]

    mgs 4 is better than anything bioware can do.

    [/QUOTE] Please, it got pounded by Fallout 3 when it came to the most GOTY awards that year. And MGS4 better than Baldur's Gate II....please.
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    Sep 29, 2012 1:15 am GMT

    The vanilla ending really was that bad, though.

    Edited on Sep 29, 2012 1:15 am GMT

    The vanilla ending really was that bad, though.

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    Sep 29, 2012 1:17 am GMT

    thetruespin wrote:

    Everytime I hear about this debate, it reminds me of something that did the rounds on Reddit at the time:

    Mass Effect fans unhappy with Titanic 3D ending

    The best thing is, angry fans did actually did start debating Titanic 3D.

    Texasgoldrush shouldve told them all that they were too stupid to get Titanic's ending.

    ...because anyone remotely intelligent knows it obviously went deeper than just a "ship hitting an iceberg"

    Edited on Sep 29, 2012 1:34 am GMT

    [QUOTE="thetruespin"]

    Everytime I hear about this debate, it reminds me of something that did the rounds on Reddit at the time:

    Mass Effect fans unhappy with Titanic 3D ending

    The best thing is, angry fans did actually did start debating Titanic 3D.

    [/QUOTE]

    Texasgoldrush shouldve told them all that they were too stupid to get Titanic's ending.

    ...because anyone remotely intelligent knows it obviously went deeper than just a "ship hitting an iceberg"

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    Sep 29, 2012 1:19 am GMT
    Timstuff wrote:

    The vanilla ending really was that bad, though.



    Yeah it was....it was underdeveloped.

    The EC fixed this.
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    [QUOTE="Timstuff"]

    The vanilla ending really was that bad, though.

    [/QUOTE] Yeah it was....it was underdeveloped. The EC fixed this.
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    Sep 29, 2012 1:27 am GMT
    seanmcloughlin wrote:

    So things got a little hairy and they bailed? not very professional of them. It's like they ran off crying that they got bullied.



    Clearly you've never had something you have created be scrutinised in any way. Sometimes criticism can be hard to take, let alone full on hate and online petitions.
    [QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

    So things got a little hairy and they bailed? not very professional of them. It's like they ran off crying that they got bullied.

    [/QUOTE] Clearly you've never had something you have created be scrutinised in any way. Sometimes criticism can be hard to take, let alone full on hate and online petitions.
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    Sep 29, 2012 2:22 am GMT

    So they didn't man up and take criticism like a man, but bailed at the first sign of a backlash.
    But at least they can go back to practising medicine instead of appeasing neckbearded basement-dwelling virgins crying out for (homo)erotic fanfiction.
    Doctors > gamers.

    So they didn't man up and take criticism like a man, but bailed at the first sign of a backlash.
    But at least they can go back to practising medicine instead of appeasing neckbearded basement-dwelling virgins crying out for (homo)erotic fanfiction.
    Doctors > gamers.

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    Sep 29, 2012 2:31 am GMT
    They quit because of guilt. They sold out to EA for moolah but soon realized that they have become different people than they once were. The fan negativity just opened their eyes.

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    They quit because of guilt. They sold out to EA for moolah but soon realized that they have become different people than they once were. The fan negativity just opened their eyes.
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    Sep 29, 2012 2:44 am GMT

    Bioware shouldn"t have miled people, the reaction was not only about the ending but a culmination of things, the ending was just the the straw that broke the camels back, For example they repeatedly told people the multiplayer will in no way at all affect the single player which was total BS and they new it was BS but they said it anyway. they brought it on themselves , don"t treat your fans like sh*t.

    On the TORanic , no one f*ckin wanted that game, we all wanted KOTOR 3, they ignore what the customer wants we reject their product then they whine..wow.

    Bioware shouldn"t have miled people, the reaction was not only about the ending but a culmination of things, the ending was just the the straw that broke the camels back, For example they repeatedly told people the multiplayer will in no way at all affect the single player which was total BS and they new it was BS but they said it anyway. they brought it on themselves , don"t treat your fans like sh*t.

    On the TORanic , no one f*ckin wanted that game, we all wanted KOTOR 3, they ignore what the customer wants we reject their product then they whine..wow.

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    Sep 29, 2012 3:02 am GMT
    Wow, I hate this planet.
    Wow, I hate this planet.
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    Sep 29, 2012 3:08 am GMT

    I don't understand why people moaned about the ending it's noty a great ending but most trilogies have bad ending anyway. GOW3 I am looking at you.

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    I don't understand why people moaned about the ending it's noty a great ending but most trilogies have bad ending anyway. GOW3 I am looking at you.

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    Sep 29, 2012 3:09 am GMT
    musalala wrote:

    Bioware shouldn"t have miled people, the reaction was not only about the ending but a culmination of things, the ending was just the the straw that broke the camels back, For example they repeatedly told people the multiplayer will in no way at all affect the single player which was total BS and they new it was BS but they said it anyway. they brought it on themselves , don"t treat your fans like sh*t.

    On the TORanic , no one f*ckin wanted that game, we all wanted KOTOR 3, they ignore what the customer wants we reject their product then they whine..wow.


    Pretty much,and donīt forget about Dragon Age 2,a massive disapointment and generally not very well recieved.
    [QUOTE="musalala"]

    Bioware shouldn"t have miled people, the reaction was not only about the ending but a culmination of things, the ending was just the the straw that broke the camels back, For example they repeatedly told people the multiplayer will in no way at all affect the single player which was total BS and they new it was BS but they said it anyway. they brought it on themselves , don"t treat your fans like sh*t.

    On the TORanic , no one f*ckin wanted that game, we all wanted KOTOR 3, they ignore what the customer wants we reject their product then they whine..wow.

    [/QUOTE] Pretty much,and donīt forget about Dragon Age 2,a massive disapointment and generally not very well recieved.
  • Level 44
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    Sep 29, 2012 3:27 am GMT

    I've made art. I've spent more than a few hours working on a single picture in the past. If after spending more than a few days on a single picture, being happy with what I accomplished and wanting to show everyone my creation I received total destructively negative criticism from the majority of people for it I know it would break me inside. So I can only imagine what it must be like to spend YEARS on something and for your own fans to be the ones giving it the negativity. More than once over.

    Anyone who thinks they're overreacting obviously hasn't poured their heart into a project over a long period of time.



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    I've made art. I've spent more than a few hours working on a single picture in the past. If after spending more than a few days on a single picture, being happy with what I accomplished and wanting to show everyone my creation I received total destructively negative criticism from the majority of people for it I know it would break me inside. So I can only imagine what it must be like to spend YEARS on something and for your own fans to be the ones giving it the negativity. More than once over.

    Anyone who thinks they're overreacting obviously hasn't poured their heart into a project over a long period of time.

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    Sep 29, 2012 3:38 am GMT

    Mozelleple112 wrote:

    Mass Effect 3's ending is GARGBAGE..

    Here's a pretty accurate list of worst endings in gaming history... Mass effect 3, Mass Effect 1, Mass Effect 2, Halo 2, Halo 3, Crysis.

    Damn ME endings are so bad.

    lolwut?

    Mass Effect 1s ending had a poor final boss, but the overall events taking place were absolutly mind bogglingly epic.

    Mass Effect 2s ending had a cool but very random final boss, and the whole final mission, with the fact that every choice you've made, and will make up to this point can and will result in the death of anyone on your team, including Shepard himself was undenyably awesome and possibly the pinnacle of the trilogy.

    You lead me to believe you never seen the endings to the previous games.



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    [QUOTE="Mozelleple112"]

    Mass Effect 3's ending is GARGBAGE..

    Here's a pretty accurate list of worst endings in gaming history... Mass effect 3, Mass Effect 1, Mass Effect 2, Halo 2, Halo 3, Crysis.

    Damn ME endings are so bad.

    [/QUOTE]

    lolwut?

    Mass Effect 1s ending had a poor final boss, but the overall events taking place were absolutly mind bogglingly epic.

    Mass Effect 2s ending had a cool but very random final boss, and the whole final mission, with the fact that every choice you've made, and will make up to this point can and will result in the death of anyone on your team, including Shepard himself was undenyably awesome and possibly the pinnacle of the trilogy.

    You lead me to believe you never seen the endings to the previous games.

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    Sep 29, 2012 4:59 am GMT
    texasgoldrush wrote:
    funsohng wrote:
    It was sh*t. So what, are we supposed to swallow it and say it's good even though it wasn't? Sure, a lot of people were overreacting, but Bioware should realize that (over)reaction was not without a cause, which was the sh*ttiest ending that one can possibly think of for one of the best franchises in modern gaming.


    And once again, was fixed in four months, for free.

    Almost every problem with the first ending is gone.

    Which is a good thing (though I highly doubt the latter). But just saying, initially, which was when ppl were overreacting, it was sh*t and they deserved to be criticized heavily.

    Besides, most of people moved on by the time the free DLC ending came out, and not many continued to rant about it, myself included.


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    [QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="funsohng"]It was sh*t. So what, are we supposed to swallow it and say it's good even though it wasn't? Sure, a lot of people were overreacting, but Bioware should realize that (over)reaction was not without a cause, which was the sh*ttiest ending that one can possibly think of for one of the best franchises in modern gaming.[/QUOTE] And once again, was fixed in four months, for free. Almost every problem with the first ending is gone.[/QUOTE] Which is a good thing (though I highly doubt the latter). But just saying, initially, which was when ppl were overreacting, it was sh*t and they deserved to be criticized heavily. Besides, most of people moved on by the time the free DLC ending came out, and not many continued to rant about it, myself included.
  • Level 42
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    Sep 29, 2012 5:11 am GMT
    The fact they got such a reaction just shows they made a brilliant series that people love. As for the ending, it was sucky and I'm not sure what they expected people to think when all their decisions were ignored and they basically yelled "A WIZARD DID IT! THE END!"...

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    The fact they got such a reaction just shows they made a brilliant series that people love. As for the ending, it was sucky and I'm not sure what they expected people to think when all their decisions were ignored and they basically yelled "A WIZARD DID IT! THE END!"...
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