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Radeon HD 7870 or gtx 660 ti?

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  • Level 35
    Stitches
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    Sep 21, 2012 6:07 pm GMT

    I'm having trouble deciding between these two cards..

    All of the benchmarks make it seem like it's dependent on the game and since the 7870 is about $60 cheaper, I'm leaning towards that. However, that means that I won't have access to physx and the 660 ti comes with Borderlands 2, which I plan on buying anyway.

    What do you guys think?


    I'm having trouble deciding between these two cards..

    All of the benchmarks make it seem like it's dependent on the game and since the 7870 is about $60 cheaper, I'm leaning towards that. However, that means that I won't have access to physx and the 660 ti comes with Borderlands 2, which I plan on buying anyway.

    What do you guys think?

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    Sep 21, 2012 6:16 pm GMT

    GTX 660ti is the bettter buy because it is faster then the 7870 by 10-15% and it includes BL2

    So in the end their around the same price if you include 7870 + BL2

    Edited on Sep 21, 2012 6:18 pm GMT

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    GTX 660ti is the bettter buy because it is faster then the 7870 by 10-15% and it includes BL2

    So in the end their around the same price if you include 7870 + BL2

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    Sep 21, 2012 8:43 pm GMT
    starwarsgeek112 wrote:

    I'm having trouble deciding between these two cards..

    All of the benchmarks make it seem like it's dependent on the game and since the 7870 is about $60 cheaper, I'm leaning towards that. However, that means that I won't have access to physx and the 660 ti comes with Borderlands 2, which I plan on buying anyway.

    What do you guys think?


    I watched a demo of Borderlands 2 playing with the Physics from Nvidia and the other video without. The explosions and extras looked a lot better on the Nvidia card. Then again, I think a lot of the games are partnering with these GPU makers to utilize there games. Seeing it more and more. Either way, i think both those cards are good, but from what I've been hearing the 660 is at the top of food chain currently.

    [QUOTE="starwarsgeek112"]

    I'm having trouble deciding between these two cards..

    All of the benchmarks make it seem like it's dependent on the game and since the 7870 is about $60 cheaper, I'm leaning towards that. However, that means that I won't have access to physx and the 660 ti comes with Borderlands 2, which I plan on buying anyway.

    What do you guys think?

    [/QUOTE] I watched a demo of Borderlands 2 playing with the Physics from Nvidia and the other video without. The explosions and extras looked a lot better on the Nvidia card. Then again, I think a lot of the games are partnering with these GPU makers to utilize there games. Seeing it more and more. Either way, i think both those cards are good, but from what I've been hearing the 660 is at the top of food chain currently.
  • Level 24
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    Sep 21, 2012 11:01 pm GMT
    GTX 660 because way too many of the games that would stress the GPUs would perform better on the 660
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    GTX 660 because way too many of the games that would stress the GPUs would perform better on the 660 :P
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    Sep 22, 2012 1:07 am GMT
    Get a 7950. It's the same price as the the 660ti and has more vram and a MUCH better memory bandwidth.

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    Get a 7950. It's the same price as the the 660ti and has more vram and a MUCH better memory bandwidth.
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    Sep 22, 2012 2:06 am GMT
    Toxic-Seahorse wrote:
    Get a 7950. It's the same price as the the 660ti and has more vram and a MUCH better memory bandwidth.
    It's a steal with the massive price drop it got, I have two HD 6950s in crossfire on my old PC and they were also the best bang for their buck at the time.
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    [QUOTE="Toxic-Seahorse"]Get a 7950. It's the same price as the the 660ti and has more vram and a MUCH better memory bandwidth.[/QUOTE] It's a steal with the massive price drop it got, I have two HD 6950s in crossfire on my old PC and they were also the best bang for their buck at the time.
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    Sep 22, 2012 3:01 am GMT
    +1 for the 7950. Most models also come with Sleeping Dogs if the included game matters.


    +1 for the 7950. Most models also come with Sleeping Dogs if the included game matters.
  • Level 37
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    Sep 22, 2012 4:59 am GMT

    7870 and 660ti are pretty close performance wise. U can also get physx if u really want on radeon cards so no big deal.

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    7870 and 660ti are pretty close performance wise. U can also get physx if u really want on radeon cards so no big deal.

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    Sep 22, 2012 5:40 am GMT

    7950 > 7870 > 660 Ti (price/performance)

    If you find a 660 Ti for the same/close price as the 7870, I'd choose the 660 Ti.

    Edited on Sep 22, 2012 5:44 am GMT

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    7950 > 7870 > 660 Ti (price/performance)

    If you find a 660 Ti for the same/close price as the 7870, I'd choose the 660 Ti.

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    Sep 22, 2012 7:34 am GMT

    blaznwiipspman1 wrote:

    7870 and 660ti are pretty close performance wise. U can also get physx if u really want on radeon cards so no big deal.

    And how do you do that?

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    [QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

    7870 and 660ti are pretty close performance wise. U can also get physx if u really want on radeon cards so no big deal.

    [/QUOTE]

    And how do you do that?

  • Level 35
    Stitches
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    Sep 22, 2012 7:41 am GMT

    I was trying to spend a max of $300 on GPU, but since the 7950 is around that price it seems like that might be the best decision here..

    Still, I'm not sure if the extra cost is worth it. From the benchmarks I've seen the 7870 performs well on everything currently out. Also, I wasn't aware that it was possible to get physx on an AMD card?


    I was trying to spend a max of $300 on GPU, but since the 7950 is around that price it seems like that might be the best decision here..

    Still, I'm not sure if the extra cost is worth it. From the benchmarks I've seen the 7870 performs well on everything currently out. Also, I wasn't aware that it was possible to get physx on an AMD card?

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    Sep 22, 2012 7:43 am GMT

    starwarsgeek112 wrote:

    I was trying to spend a max of $300 on GPU, but since the 7950 is around that price it seems like that might be the best decision here..

    Still, I'm not sure if the extra cost is worth it. From the benchmarks I've seen the 7870 performs well on everything currently out. Also, I wasn't aware that it was possible to get physx on an AMD card?

    The HD 7950 is in my opinion, currently, the best option out there when it comes to a graphics card.

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    [QUOTE="starwarsgeek112"]

    I was trying to spend a max of $300 on GPU, but since the 7950 is around that price it seems like that might be the best decision here..

    Still, I'm not sure if the extra cost is worth it. From the benchmarks I've seen the 7870 performs well on everything currently out. Also, I wasn't aware that it was possible to get physx on an AMD card?

    [/QUOTE]The HD 7950 is in my opinion, currently, the best option out there when it comes to a graphics card.

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    Sep 22, 2012 7:45 am GMT
    starwarsgeek112 wrote:

    I was trying to spend a max of $300 on GPU, but since the 7950 is around that price it seems like that might be the best decision here..

    Still, I'm not sure if the extra cost is worth it. From the benchmarks I've seen the 7870 performs well on everything currently out. Also, I wasn't aware that it was possible to get physx on an AMD card?


    Its not possible on an AMD gpu. You still need a Nvidia gpu and hacked physx drivers which are always out of date. My point still stands a GTX 660ti is still slightly faster comes with Borderlands 2 , while a 7870 does not and you would still need to buy the game making the prices equal in the end.

    loosingENDS Wisdom:

    My PC is not a gaming PC in the sense that does not have a GPU that will run games in playable frame rates, other than that is a DX11 GPU that will run any game in any setting

    Was xbox 360 based on a 9800 pro of 2003 ?

    No, it was based on a 8800GTX of 2006

    [QUOTE="starwarsgeek112"]

    I was trying to spend a max of $300 on GPU, but since the 7950 is around that price it seems like that might be the best decision here..

    Still, I'm not sure if the extra cost is worth it. From the benchmarks I've seen the 7870 performs well on everything currently out. Also, I wasn't aware that it was possible to get physx on an AMD card?

    [/QUOTE] Its not possible on an AMD gpu. You still need a Nvidia gpu and hacked physx drivers which are always out of date. My point still stands a GTX 660ti is still slightly faster comes with Borderlands 2 , while a 7870 does not and you would still need to buy the game making the prices equal in the end.
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    Sep 22, 2012 7:46 am GMT

    starwarsgeek112 wrote:

    I was trying to spend a max of $300 on GPU, but since the 7950 is around that price it seems like that might be the best decision here..

    Still, I'm not sure if the extra cost is worth it. From the benchmarks I've seen the 7870 performs well on everything currently out. Also, I wasn't aware that it was possible to get physx on an AMD card?

    The 7950 is the best card out there in the $300 neighborhood. I recommend that anyone who is planning on spending anything over $250 on a GPU stretch it a bit and pay the extra to get it. It will pay off in the long run.

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    [QUOTE="starwarsgeek112"]

    I was trying to spend a max of $300 on GPU, but since the 7950 is around that price it seems like that might be the best decision here..

    Still, I'm not sure if the extra cost is worth it. From the benchmarks I've seen the 7870 performs well on everything currently out. Also, I wasn't aware that it was possible to get physx on an AMD card?

    [/QUOTE]

    The 7950 is the best card out there in the $300 neighborhood. I recommend that anyone who is planning on spending anything over $250 on a GPU stretch it a bit and pay the extra to get it. It will pay off in the long run.

  • Level 35
    Stitches
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    Sep 22, 2012 7:55 am GMT

    Well it looks like I'll have to go with the 7950 then..

    Who needs physx anyways?


    Well it looks like I'll have to go with the 7950 then..

    Who needs physx anyways?

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    Sep 22, 2012 2:07 pm GMT

    starwarsgeek112 wrote:

    Well it looks like I'll have to go with the 7950 then..

    Who needs physx anyways?

    Physx isn't really needed unless you are playing games that utilize it, but not very many do.

    If you feel the need for have physx, I would just look for an inexpensive Nvidia card to handle that.

    I agree with the 7950...in the $300 price range it's the best deal out there.

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    [QUOTE="starwarsgeek112"]

    Well it looks like I'll have to go with the 7950 then..

    Who needs physx anyways?

    [/QUOTE]

    Physx isn't really needed unless you are playing games that utilize it, but not very many do.

    If you feel the need for have physx, I would just look for an inexpensive Nvidia card to handle that.

    I agree with the 7950...in the $300 price range it's the best deal out there.

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    Sep 22, 2012 3:45 pm GMT
    Yeah the 7950 can't be ignored at these prices. It's a friggin beast once OC'd, at 1100mhz it should be as fast as the 7970ghz ed, or very near.
    Yeah the 7950 can't be ignored at these prices. It's a friggin beast once OC'd, at 1100mhz it should be as fast as the 7970ghz ed, or very near.
  • Level 22
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    Sep 22, 2012 8:37 pm GMT

    starwarsgeek112 wrote:

    Well it looks like I'll have to go with the 7950 then..

    Who needs physx anyways?

    I agree with everyone else that the HD 7950 offers the best price to performance ratio right now. Honestly, all of these cards are pretty damn good for current games at 1920 x 1080 resolution, but the HD 7950 will likely be better for future games.

    PhysX can still work even if you have an AMD card. It simply runs on your processor (cpu). I see that you are looking forward to Borderlands 2. Well, you will be happy to know that it runs very well on AMD cards...even if you enable PhysX. Have a look at this Borderlands 2 comparison that Techspot did:

    http://www.techspot.com/review/577-borderlands-2-performance/page5.html

    PhysX.png

    With PhysX set to 'high' the HD 7970 was actually faster than the GTX 680!

    The HD 7950 is an amazing card. It will perform exceptionally well in Borderlands 2 with PhysX enabled and you will be very happy with it.

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    [QUOTE="starwarsgeek112"]

    Well it looks like I'll have to go with the 7950 then..

    Who needs physx anyways?

    [/QUOTE]

    I agree with everyone else that the HD 7950 offers the best price to performance ratio right now. Honestly, all of these cards are pretty damn good for current games at 1920 x 1080 resolution, but the HD 7950 will likely be better for future games.

    PhysX can still work even if you have an AMD card. It simply runs on your processor (cpu). I see that you are looking forward to Borderlands 2. Well, you will be happy to know that it runs very well on AMD cards...even if you enable PhysX. Have a look at this Borderlands 2 comparison that Techspot did:

    http://www.techspot.com/review/577-borderlands-2-performance/page5.html

    PhysX.png

    With PhysX set to 'high' the HD 7970 was actually faster than the GTX 680!

    The HD 7950 is an amazing card. It will perform exceptionally well in Borderlands 2 with PhysX enabled and you will be very happy with it.

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    Sep 22, 2012 10:00 pm GMT
    hartsickdiscipl wrote:

    starwarsgeek112 wrote:

    I was trying to spend a max of $300 on GPU, but since the 7950 is around that price it seems like that might be the best decision here..

    Still, I'm not sure if the extra cost is worth it. From the benchmarks I've seen the 7870 performs well on everything currently out. Also, I wasn't aware that it was possible to get physx on an AMD card?

    The 7950 is the best card out there in the $300 neighborhood. I recommend that anyone who is planning on spending anything over $250 on a GPU stretch it a bit and pay the extra to get it. It will pay off in the long run.


    I wonder how 2 of those 7950s will run in Crossfire? Probably like a dream!

    [QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

    [QUOTE="starwarsgeek112"]

    I was trying to spend a max of $300 on GPU, but since the 7950 is around that price it seems like that might be the best decision here..

    Still, I'm not sure if the extra cost is worth it. From the benchmarks I've seen the 7870 performs well on everything currently out. Also, I wasn't aware that it was possible to get physx on an AMD card?

    [/QUOTE]

    The 7950 is the best card out there in the $300 neighborhood. I recommend that anyone who is planning on spending anything over $250 on a GPU stretch it a bit and pay the extra to get it. It will pay off in the long run.

    [/QUOTE] I wonder how 2 of those 7950s will run in Crossfire? Probably like a dream!
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