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  • Bozanimal
     
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    In my experience most gamers despise downloadable content as feeding off gamers, providing them with half a game unless they buy the DLC.

    However, I also know gamers that appreciate DLC extending the life of a game that they love.

    How about it: Do you like DLC? Yes, no, and why?

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    In my experience most gamers despise downloadable content as feeding off gamers, providing them with half a game unless they buy the DLC.

    However, I also know gamers that appreciate DLC extending the life of a game that they love.

    How about it: Do you like DLC? Yes, no, and why?

    Happy gaming,

    Boz

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    I tend to come down more on the side of DLC rather than against it because it can add tremendously to the experience. I'll happily wade through all the weapon skins, costumes, map packs and horse armour that devs can throw at us if it means more treats like Minerva's Den, Lair of the Shadow Broker, Project Overlord and Pigsy's Perfect 10.

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    I tend to come down more on the side of DLC rather than against it because it can add tremendously to the experience. I'll happily wade through all the weapon skins, costumes, map packs and horse armour that devs can throw at us if it means more treats like Minerva's Den, Lair of the Shadow Broker, Project Overlord and Pigsy's Perfect 10.

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    Depends on the content.

    Lets take the Skyrim DLC for example. Vampires and werewolves do nothing for me so Dawnguard is a bust. Making your own house should have been in the vanilla game IMO so Heathfire is fairly craptacular, but then again it's only $5.

    Depends on the content.

    Lets take the Skyrim DLC for example. Vampires and werewolves do nothing for me so Dawnguard is a bust. Making your own house should have been in the vanilla game IMO so Heathfire is fairly craptacular, but then again it's only $5.

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    I think it's only outrageous when developers launch separate DLC the same day the full game comes out. That I just find criminal!

    I think it's only outrageous when developers launch separate DLC the same day the full game comes out. That I just find criminal!

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    I love it as it gives me more to game that I already enjoy. I always research both the game itself and the DLC that comes out for it and if I feel they are each worth my money then I'll buy them. I've purchased some games and passed entirely on their DLC offerings, purchased some games and bought some of their DLC offerings, or purchased some games and bought all of their DLC offerings. Using my own judgement like this has lead me to overwhelming satisfaction in my purchases so it's definitely working for me.

    I love it as it gives me more to game that I already enjoy. I always research both the game itself and the DLC that comes out for it and if I feel they are each worth my money then I'll buy them. I've purchased some games and passed entirely on their DLC offerings, purchased some games and bought some of their DLC offerings, or purchased some games and bought all of their DLC offerings. Using my own judgement like this has lead me to overwhelming satisfaction in my purchases so it's definitely working for me.
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    Day one DLC, on disk DLC and online passes are all in the same group...I hate it.

    DLC in FPS games are welcome, but should be sold at a reasonable price like KZ3. They had all their map DLC for around $8 in one bundle. Their was a lot of good maps too.

    CoD selling 2 maps with a zombie map for $15-$20 is ridiculous, but people pay it.

    Day one DLC, on disk DLC and online passes are all in the same group...I hate it.

    DLC in FPS games are welcome, but should be sold at a reasonable price like KZ3. They had all their map DLC for around $8 in one bundle. Their was a lot of good maps too.

    CoD selling 2 maps with a zombie map for $15-$20 is ridiculous, but people pay it.

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    Amster_G wrote:

    I think it's only outrageous when developers launch separate DLC the same day the full game comes out. That I just find criminal!


    This is one of the things I want to understand. Why is this criminal? It's a larger version of shareware: You can play a certain amount of the game for the base cost, and additional game for more.

    Games are expensive to develop, in some cases very expensive, so instead of charging $100 for everything, they charge less and incrementally for DLC. It makes sense, and those gamers that want more buy more.

    Happy gaming,

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    I think it's only outrageous when developers launch separate DLC the same day the full game comes out. That I just find criminal!

    [/QUOTE] This is one of the things I want to understand. Why is this criminal? It's a larger version of shareware: You can play a certain amount of the game for the base cost, and additional game for more. Games are expensive to develop, in some cases very expensive, so instead of charging $100 for everything, they charge less and incrementally for DLC. It makes sense, and those gamers that want more buy more. Happy gaming, Boz
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    Paid DLC is a plague on this industry. Aside from Xbox Live it's the worst thing that ever happened to console gaming.
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    Bozanimal wrote:
    This is one of the things I want to understand. Why is this criminal?

    I understand games can be very expensive to develop, but why can't they just cram those extra few multiplayer packs and weapons into the game? More money? Of course. I mean, they develop DLC as the full game itself is still in the works as well. If they could at least just not launch DLC alongside a newly released game... That makes no sense to me. I'm ok with DLC a while after a game's been launched.

    [QUOTE="Bozanimal"] This is one of the things I want to understand. Why is this criminal?[/QUOTE]

    I understand games can be very expensive to develop, but why can't they just cram those extra few multiplayer packs and weapons into the game? More money? Of course. I mean, they develop DLC as the full game itself is still in the works as well. If they could at least just not launch DLC alongside a newly released game... That makes no sense to me. I'm ok with DLC a while after a game's been launched.

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  • speedfreak48t5p
     
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    I love the good DLC (GTA 4, Fallout 3/New Vegas, Red Dead, Borderlands, BC2 Vietnam, etc). I hate the bad DLC (Call of Duty, Saint's Row, those kind of stuff).

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    I love the good DLC (GTA 4, Fallout 3/New Vegas, Red Dead, Borderlands, BC2 Vietnam, etc). I hate the bad DLC (Call of Duty, Saint's Row, those kind of stuff).

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    speedfreak48t5p wrote:

    I love the good DLC (GTA 4, Fallout 3/New Vegas, Red Dead, Borderlands, BC2 Vietnam, etc).

    This exactly. Good DLC. Grand Theft Auto IV's DLC was pretty damn good. Fully loaded episodes with plenty of added things to do in Liberty City. It was like an expansion pack.

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    I love the good DLC (GTA 4, Fallout 3/New Vegas, Red Dead, Borderlands, BC2 Vietnam, etc).[/QUOTE]

    This exactly. Good DLC. Grand Theft Auto IV's DLC was pretty damn good. Fully loaded episodes with plenty of added things to do in Liberty City. It was like an expansion pack.

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    ristactionjakso wrote:

    Day one DLC, on disk DLC and online passes are all in the same group...I hate it.

    DLC in FPS games are welcome, but should be sold at a reasonable price like KZ3. They had all their map DLC for around $8 in one bundle. Their was a lot of good maps too.

    CoD selling 2 maps with a zombie map for $15-$20 is ridiculous, but people pay it.

    Agreed.

    I don't have a problem with DLC, I have a problem with games being released incomplete. DLC to me, should be add-ons that genuinely came after the game was made. The fact that dev's and publishers plan on releasing DLC means, they already had those ideas whilst making the game, and therefore should be in the game.

    I know I'm being somewhat idealistic, but at the very least like you said, DLC should be a reasonable price, and Day one DLC should Always be free. Infact, I'll extend that, I think any DLC releaseed within the first 6 months of the game should always be free.

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    [QUOTE="ristactionjakso"]

    Day one DLC, on disk DLC and online passes are all in the same group...I hate it.

    DLC in FPS games are welcome, but should be sold at a reasonable price like KZ3. They had all their map DLC for around $8 in one bundle. Their was a lot of good maps too.

    CoD selling 2 maps with a zombie map for $15-$20 is ridiculous, but people pay it.

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    Agreed.

    I don't have a problem with DLC, I have a problem with games being released incomplete. DLC to me, should be add-ons that genuinely came after the game was made. The fact that dev's and publishers plan on releasing DLC means, they already had those ideas whilst making the game, and therefore should be in the game.

    I know I'm being somewhat idealistic, but at the very least like you said, DLC should be a reasonable price, and Day one DLC should Always be free. Infact, I'll extend that, I think any DLC releaseed within the first 6 months of the game should always be free.

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    I have no real problem with DLC. If they keep the price of games down then I do not have a problem with them.

    Also if they want to have the game use DLC then they must make at least one DLC while they make the game. I guess I am saying that if they want DLC then the must have day one DLC as well.

    I have no real problem with DLC. If they keep the price of games down then I do not have a problem with them.

    Also if they want to have the game use DLC then they must make at least one DLC while they make the game. I guess I am saying that if they want DLC then the must have day one DLC as well.

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    It's not a yes or no question. That's like asking if I like food. I like ice cream and chicken but I hate crawfish. I like good DLC that provides enough value for the cost and doesn't hamstring the main game with broken design, but I hate bad DLC that makes it feel like I'm missing a core part of the game if I don't buy it.

    One specific type I hate is map packs for multiplayer games. They are one of the worst because they split up the community and kill off part of the game.

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    It's not a yes or no question. That's like asking if I like food. I like ice cream and chicken but I hate crawfish. I like good DLC that provides enough value for the cost and doesn't hamstring the main game with broken design, but I hate bad DLC that makes it feel like I'm missing a core part of the game if I don't buy it.

    One specific type I hate is map packs for multiplayer games. They are one of the worst because they split up the community and kill off part of the game.

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    Alright, so people like good DLC and don't like bad DLC. This seems even more silly to me, like saying you like good games and don't like bad games. The thing is, people don't get mad at bad games, they just don't buy them.

    Buying a game and finding you're missing material content, like missing characters in Mortal Kombat, now that I can understand. Character and environment variety is all there is to Mortal Kombat.

    Happy gaming,

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    Alright, so people like good DLC and don't like bad DLC. This seems even [i]more[/i] silly to me, like saying you like good games and don't like bad games. The thing is, people don't get mad at bad games, they just don't buy them. Buying a game and finding you're missing material content, like missing characters in Mortal Kombat, now [i]that[/i] I can understand. Character and environment variety is all there is to Mortal Kombat. Happy gaming, Boz
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    It's a case by case basis for me. DLC that is already on the disc is never okay with my and I will never buy it. Extra costumes are usually a ripoff as well since they were just unlockable in previous gens. Some examples of DLC that I did like include expansions for Fallout3/New Vegas, The Missing Link for Deus Ex: HR, and a lot of the really cheap DLC that has come out for Magicka that has a lot of new content.

    Valve is great with DLC sincei t is always free and gives me enough reason to revisit their games (Additional Portal 2 co op puzzles for example)

    It's a case by case basis for me. DLC that is already on the disc is never okay with my and I will never buy it. Extra costumes are usually a ripoff as well since they were just unlockable in previous gens. Some examples of DLC that I did like include expansions for Fallout3/New Vegas, The Missing Link for Deus Ex: HR, and a lot of the really cheap DLC that has come out for Magicka that has a lot of new content.

    Valve is great with DLC sincei t is always free and gives me enough reason to revisit their games (Additional Portal 2 co op puzzles for example)

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    I liked some DLC that actually adds a lot to the game, like in GTA. GTA IV was a complete game by itself and fine without the DLC.

    But in general I liked expansion packs back before DLC, those actually offered tons of content, compared to DLC nowadays is for stuff that should've been part of the game before for free. Stuff like extra clothes, weapons, little bonuses, modes and maps were all unlockables back in the day, now they offer the extras as DLC's instead as part of the package you pay for. The industry will only get worse, slicing off parts of games that were available for free before and making you pay for them as they are 'extra' and call you 'entitled' if you complain, when those parts were commonly part of the game in the past. In the past, developers would really put in the effort to put in extras and polish everything to make the best game they could, when it wouldn't have really made a different in sales, but they did it because they wanted to create games for people to enjoy and take in their world and ideas and now they've found they can make more money by selling them aside.

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    I liked some DLC that actually adds a lot to the game, like in GTA. GTA IV was a complete game by itself and fine without the DLC.

    But in general I liked expansion packs back before DLC, those actually offered tons of content, compared to DLC nowadays is for stuff that should've been part of the game before for free. Stuff like extra clothes, weapons, little bonuses, modes and maps were all unlockables back in the day, now they offer the extras as DLC's instead as part of the package you pay for. The industry will only get worse, slicing off parts of games that were available for free before and making you pay for them as they are 'extra' and call you 'entitled' if you complain, when those parts were commonly part of the game in the past. In the past, developers would really put in the effort to put in extras and polish everything to make the best game they could, when it wouldn't have really made a different in sales, but they did it because they wanted to create games for people to enjoy and take in their world and ideas and now they've found they can make more money by selling them aside.

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    In general I like DLC. It's offered me great stuff like Minerva's Den, Red Dead's Zombie addon, Point Lookout, Gay Tony, songs for Rock Band, cars for Forza 4 - more content for games I enjoy.

    There is plenty of bad DLC too, but I don't buy it. I think the advent of seasons passes are stupid, so I don't give them my money. Am I losing out on content? I guess so, but at the same time in almost every case the core game has felt complete and finished.

    It's also possible to game the system via half price points offers on XBL cards, which in some cases makes DLC more worth it than it would have otherwise been. That and I'm big into GOTY editions as it lets me scoop up games I may have missed with all of their content for less than what people paid at launch for the original game.


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    In general I like DLC. It's offered me great stuff like Minerva's Den, Red Dead's Zombie addon, Point Lookout, Gay Tony, songs for Rock Band, cars for Forza 4 - more content for games I enjoy. There is plenty of bad DLC too, but I don't buy it. I think the advent of seasons passes are stupid, so I don't give them my money. Am I losing out on content? I guess so, but at the same time in almost every case the core game has felt complete and finished. It's also possible to game the system via half price points offers on XBL cards, which in some cases makes DLC more worth it than it would have otherwise been. That and I'm big into GOTY editions as it lets me scoop up games I may have missed with all of their content for less than what people paid at launch for the original game.
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