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Is the harry potter series demonic?
- Aug 7, 2012 5:23 pm GMT
.[QUOTE="harashawn"][QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="harashawn"] Homer wrote about actual (pagan) religious practices. Is that enough evidence for you?[/QUOTE] I thought we were discussing modern literature, not Greek poets..[/QUOTE] So one is not OK because it is modern fiction and the other is fine because it is mythological tradition?[/QUOTE] Defining facts and implementing witchcraft into books are two different things..- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Aug 7, 2012 5:54 pm GMT[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="harashawn"][QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] I thought we were discussing modern literature, not Greek poets..[/QUOTE] So one is not OK because it is modern fiction and the other is fine because it is mythological tradition?[/QUOTE] Defining facts and implementing witchcraft into books are two different things..[/QUOTE] There are no known spells that actually work. Harry Potter is fiction.
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- Aug 7, 2012 6:31 pm GMT
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Yes, but the Bible specifically prohibits witchcraft, omens, spells, etc. I quoted it on one of the previous pages.
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You do realise that the witchcraft portrayed in both the harry potter books and films is fictional right?
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It doesn't matter. The films and the books promote witchcraft, which is anti-Biblical. The God of Abraham would not approve. Period.
[/QUOTE] I'm not doubting you because we all know there are people out there that don't like things, and turn to banning them to try and keep them out of their life, but I don't see how a story/movie talking magic is actually "promoting" it.
Just because the Lord of The Rings (using as an example since it was mentioned before) has killing in it, doesn't mean it's promoting it. I can see a book/movie written about how to kill someone and get away with it being used for promoting murder, because anyone could probably take those elements and replicate them.
I feel Harry Potter isn't promoting the use of the magic (not including simple card tricks) they use because, it can't be replicated. Show me a person how can perform the levitation spell in front of my eyes, and then I'll say it's real lol.
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- Aug 7, 2012 6:39 pm GMT[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]
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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]
Yes, but the Bible specifically prohibits witchcraft, omens, spells, etc. I quoted it on one of the previous pages.
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You do realise that the witchcraft portrayed in both the harry potter books and films is fictional right?
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It doesn't matter. The films and the books promote witchcraft, which is anti-Biblical. The God of Abraham would not approve. Period.
[/QUOTE] I disagree actually. The books are a work of fiction and do not promote the worship of any god or form of god. As such, I see the books as morally neutral at worst.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Aug 7, 2012 7:22 pm GMT .[QUOTE="harashawn"][QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="harashawn"] So one is not OK because it is modern fiction and the other is fine because it is mythological tradition?[/QUOTE] Defining facts and implementing witchcraft into books are two different things..[/QUOTE] There are no known spells that actually work. Harry Potter is fiction.[/QUOTE] It's not about actual working spells, it's about realistic witchcraft that may not work, but is dangerous.
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- Aug 7, 2012 7:27 pm GMT[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="harashawn"][QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] Defining facts and implementing witchcraft into books are two different things..[/QUOTE] There are no known spells that actually work. Harry Potter is fiction.[/QUOTE] It's not about actual working spells, it's about realistic witchcraft that may not work, but is dangerous.[/QUOTE] There is no such thing as witchcraft. It is not possible to contact "evil spirits", ouija boards, tarot cards, and magic 8 balls are made by toy companies, not wizards.
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- Aug 7, 2012 7:29 pm GMT
Demonicly overated? Yes. Yes they are.
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- Aug 7, 2012 7:29 pm GMTharashawn wrote:ShadowsDemon wrote:harashawn wrote:
There are no known spells that actually work. Harry Potter is fiction.
It's not about actual working spells, it's about realistic witchcraft that may not work, but is dangerous.
There is no such thing as witchcraft. It is not possible to contact "evil spirits", ouija boards, tarot cards, and magic 8 balls are made by toy companies, not wizards.
Too be honest, there IS a thing called witchcraft. Doesn't mean it works, but the idea is there
.[QUOTE="harashawn"][QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="harashawn"] There are no known spells that actually work. Harry Potter is fiction.[/QUOTE] It's not about actual working spells, it's about realistic witchcraft that may not work, but is dangerous.[/QUOTE] There is no such thing as witchcraft. It is not possible to contact "evil spirits", ouija boards, tarot cards, and magic 8 balls are made by toy companies, not wizards.[/QUOTE] Too be honest, there IS a thing called witchcraft. Doesn't mean it works, but the idea is there :P.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Aug 7, 2012 8:57 pm GMT .[QUOTE="harashawn"][QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="harashawn"] There are no known spells that actually work. Harry Potter is fiction.[/QUOTE] It's not about actual working spells, it's about realistic witchcraft that may not work, but is dangerous.[/QUOTE] There is no such thing as witchcraft. It is not possible to contact "evil spirits", ouija boards, tarot cards, and magic 8 balls are made by toy companies, not wizards.[/QUOTE] I didn't say they werent made by wizards, but I do believe in witchcraft and the supernatural. You don't have to believe in it, that's fine, but you saying that is doesn't exist is YOUR opinion.
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- Aug 7, 2012 10:43 pm GMT[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="harashawn"][QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] It's not about actual working spells, it's about realistic witchcraft that may not work, but is dangerous.[/QUOTE] There is no such thing as witchcraft. It is not possible to contact "evil spirits", ouija boards, tarot cards, and magic 8 balls are made by toy companies, not wizards.[/QUOTE] I didn't say they werent made by wizards, but I do believe in witchcraft and the supernatural. You don't have to believe in it, that's fine, but you saying that is doesn't exist is YOUR opinion.[/QUOTE] It's not a matter of opinion. If witches existed then they would be considered a real threat.
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- Aug 7, 2012 10:44 pm GMT
Yes it is demonic and all of you that read should repent.
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- Aug 7, 2012 10:45 pm GMT
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[QUOTE="harashawn"][QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="harashawn"] There is no such thing as witchcraft. It is not possible to contact "evil spirits", ouija boards, tarot cards, and magic 8 balls are made by toy companies, not wizards.[/QUOTE] I didn't say they werent made by wizards, but I do believe in witchcraft and the supernatural. You don't have to believe in it, that's fine, but you saying that is doesn't exist is YOUR opinion.[/QUOTE] It's not a matter of opinion. If witches existed then they would be considered a real threat.[/QUOTE]
more like military a asset.
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- Aug 7, 2012 11:12 pm GMTSaint Mark the ascetic: On spiritual Law wrote:First of all, we know that God is the begining, middle and end of everything good ; and it is impossible to have faith in anything good or to carry it into effect except in Christ Jesus and the Holy spirit.
[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] I've had to study and write essays on other gods for Ancient History assignments, and read books based on them as well. Tell me, should I not be studying this subject all of a sudden? Besides, J.K.Rowling even said herself that she researched Wicca and their rituals to give her books an edge. I'd say that's good enough evidence for me...[/QUOTE]
The quote or I won't believe you, arrian.
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- Aug 7, 2012 11:58 pm GMT .[QUOTE="harashawn"][QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="harashawn"] There is no such thing as witchcraft. It is not possible to contact "evil spirits", ouija boards, tarot cards, and magic 8 balls are made by toy companies, not wizards.[/QUOTE] I didn't say they werent made by wizards, but I do believe in witchcraft and the supernatural. You don't have to believe in it, that's fine, but you saying that is doesn't exist is YOUR opinion.[/QUOTE] It's not a matter of opinion. If witches existed then they would be considered a real threat.[/QUOTE] It's because people decide not to believe in them that they aren't considered a real threat. Besides, it's also a matter of belief in the supernatural or not...
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- Aug 8, 2012 9:31 am GMT[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="harashawn"][QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] I didn't say they werent made by wizards, but I do believe in witchcraft and the supernatural. You don't have to believe in it, that's fine, but you saying that is doesn't exist is YOUR opinion.[/QUOTE] It's not a matter of opinion. If witches existed then they would be considered a real threat.[/QUOTE] It's because people decide not to believe in them that they aren't considered a real threat. Besides, it's also a matter of belief in the supernatural or not...[/QUOTE] If witches were real, there would be no doubt. People decide not to believe in them because witchcract is impossible.
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- Aug 8, 2012 9:35 am GMT
Doesn't Harry Potter celebrate Christmas in the movies?
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- Aug 8, 2012 12:05 pm GMT
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Doesn't Harry Potter celebrate Christmas in the movies?
[/QUOTE] Christmas is not a Biblical holiday and is actually of pagan origin. Also, there is no way that Jesus was born on December 25th as the scenery and events during the time of his birth as described in the Gospels are inconsistent with winter. He was born during a time of the year when the whether was warmer.
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- Aug 8, 2012 12:09 pm GMT
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Doesn't Harry Potter celebrate Christmas in the movies?
[/QUOTE] Christmas is not a Biblical holiday and is actually of pagan origin. Also, there is no way that Jesus was born on December 25th as the scenery and events during the time of his birth as described in the Gospels are inconsistent with winter. He was born during a time of the year when the whether was warmer.
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So the Christmas in Harry Potter was a Pagan celebration, and not about Jesus Christ's Birthday?
Even though Harry and Ron say "Happy Christmas" to each other?
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- Aug 8, 2012 12:22 pm GMT
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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]
[QUOTE="Netherscourge"]
Doesn't Harry Potter celebrate Christmas in the movies?
[/QUOTE] Christmas is not a Biblical holiday and is actually of pagan origin. Also, there is no way that Jesus was born on December 25th as the scenery and events during the time of his birth as described in the Gospels are inconsistent with winter. He was born during a time of the year when the whether was warmer.
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So the Christmas in Harry Potter was a Pagan celebration, and not about Jesus Christ's Birthday?
Even though Harry and Ron say "Happy Christmas" to each other?
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I was just pointing out a fact. However, let's assume that Christmas is a true Christian holiday (even though Santa has nothing to do with Christ). Mixing a godly celebration with paganaism is just as bad as engaging solely in paganism. God wants full dedication.
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- Aug 8, 2012 12:24 pm GMT
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I don't think Harry Potter is demonic, but I've never read the book and I've only watched parts of the movie. I think some Christians find certain things about the book troubling, particularly it's "glorification" of magic and they think the book makes an arbitrary distinction between white magic and black magic while the Bible regards all magic and occult things to be bad. Some of these Christians have said that these criticisms do not apply to the Lord of the Rings because LOTR treats magic more responsibly: the only good guys that use magic are non-human and LOTR takes place in a fictional setting while Potter takes place in England.
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