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It's not spanish!

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  • Level 9
    Ikari Warrior
    Posts: 10
    Apr 22, 2012 10:24 am GMT

    The description here in GameSpot says the TV show is spanish... it's mexican! I'm not proud of it, but it's mexican.

    The description here in GameSpot says the TV show is spanish... it's mexican! I'm not proud of it, but it's mexican.

  • Level 23
    Super Bagman
    Posts: 351
    May 7, 2012 10:34 am GMT

    CoobyMX wrote:

    The description here in GameSpot says the TV show is spanish... it's mexican! I'm not proud of it, but it's mexican.

    Yeah, Mexico is very much underrated. There's far more culture there than in northern MN! Only culture here is a "throat-culture." (And no, I am not being sarcastic; Mexico is among the places I want to go to before I die.)

    Thinking of TV and stuff, ESPN-On-ABC events are suppose to be available in Spanish via the SAP button on your TV/remote courtesy of ESPN de Portes (SP). It's not on my ABC station. f***ers...

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    ...Some believe that there may yet be brothers of man who even now, fight to survive. Somewhere beyond the heavens...

    [QUOTE="CoobyMX"]

    The description here in GameSpot says the TV show is spanish... it's mexican! I'm not proud of it, but it's mexican.

    [/QUOTE]

    Yeah, Mexico is very much underrated. There's far more culture there than in northern MN! Only culture here is a "throat-culture." (And no, I am not being sarcastic; Mexico is among the places I want to go to before I die.)

    Thinking of TV and stuff, ESPN-On-ABC events are suppose to be available in Spanish via the SAP button on your TV/remote courtesy of ESPN de Portes (SP). It's not on my ABC station. f***ers...

  • Level 11
    Atomic Punk
    Posts: 174
    May 23, 2012 7:39 pm GMT

    [/QUOTE]Mexico is among the places I want to go to before I die.[/QUOTE]

    I live a few miles from TJ. With the drug lords warring right now you can visit right before you die. Shoot they unearth a bus with 72 corpses a year ago and 12 heads a few months ago.

    Edited on May 23, 2012 7:40 pm GMT

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    [/QUOTE]Mexico is among the places I want to go to before I die.[/QUOTE]

    I live a few miles from TJ. With the drug lords warring right now you can visit right before you die. Shoot they unearth a bus with 72 corpses a year ago and 12 heads a few months ago.

  • Level 43
    Sword of Sodan
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    May 28, 2012 10:18 am GMT

    Would you say the same concerning other languages? For instance, "this is not English but Texan"? I am aware that there are dialectal differences but Imho it is Spanish as long as a Spanish speaker can understand it without problems...

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    Would you say the same concerning other languages? For instance, "this is not English but Texan"? I am aware that there are dialectal differences but Imho it is Spanish as long as a Spanish speaker can understand it without problems...

  • Level 23
    Super Bagman
    Posts: 235
    Jun 5, 2012 7:58 am GMT

    VintAge68 wrote:

    Would you say the same concerning other languages? For instance, "this is not English but Texan"? I am aware that there are dialectal differences but Imho it is Spanish as long as a Spanish speaker can understand it without problems...

    You are fundamentally right, but I'd almost compare Mexican Spanish to Traditional Spanish the same way you might compare Simplified Chinese to Traditional Chinese. It's not so much an accent (Texan English vs. California English) as it is actual differences in dialect and vocabulary. While the differences in Traditonal vs. Simplified Chinese are greater, there still is a decent difference between Mexican Spanish and Traditional there are a lot of Native American language influences on it, too).

    Not bashing, but the OP is saying the show itself is Mexican, not the language spoken... You don't call an Irish TV show English, or a Canadian one American, just 'cause the same language (or a version of it) is spoken in it, do you?

    Edited on Jun 5, 2012 8:13 am GMT Edited 2 total times.

    "If opinions are like a**holes (everybody has one), does that make the Internet the world's largest toilet seat?"

    [QUOTE="VintAge68"]

    Would you say the same concerning other languages? For instance, "this is not English but Texan"? I am aware that there are dialectal differences but Imho it is Spanish as long as a Spanish speaker can understand it without problems...

    [/QUOTE]

    You are fundamentally right, but I'd almost compare Mexican Spanish to Traditional Spanish the same way you might compare Simplified Chinese to Traditional Chinese. It's not so much an accent (Texan English vs. California English) as it is actual differences in dialect and vocabulary. While the differences in Traditonal vs. Simplified Chinese are greater, there still is a decent difference between Mexican Spanish and Traditional there are a lot of Native American language influences on it, too).

    Not bashing, but the OP is saying the show itself is Mexican, not the language spoken... You don't call an Irish TV show English, or a Canadian one American, just 'cause the same language (or a version of it) is spoken in it, do you?

  • Level 23
    Super Bagman
    Posts: 235
    Jun 5, 2012 8:00 am GMT

    Masked_BSTRD wrote:

    thunderbone wrote:
    Mexico is among the places I want to go to before I die.

    I live a few miles from TJ. With the drug lords warring right now you can visit right before you die. Shoot they unearth a bus with 72 corpses a year ago and 12 heads a few months ago.

    I live in San Diego, too... TJ, yeah you're right (even though I don't think it's as bad as all that -- the touristy stuff is still OK, like Avenida Revolucion. Just don't wander too far off the main drag). Outside of that, not all of Mexico is as bad as the media makes it out to be. Case in point, my wife and I are part owners on property that is about an hour South of Mexicali, on the river, and it's fantastic (OK, not actual owners, 'cause a non-Mexican National can't own land, but we have a "99 year lease"). We've been going down there for over 10 years, and we haven't had a single problem... The people are great, and incredibly friendly. They have very little, but are always willing to share what they DO have. That good-will and friendliness is what brings us back, time and time again.

    Bottom line... Stay away from the crap spots (Nogales, Jaurez -- and from what I've heard lately -- Puerto Vallarta) and you should be fine. Oh, and Cancun and Cabo San Lucas are the sh(i)t!

    Edited on Jun 5, 2012 8:09 am GMT Edited 3 total times.

    "If opinions are like a**holes (everybody has one), does that make the Internet the world's largest toilet seat?"

    [QUOTE="Masked_BSTRD"]

    [QUOTE="thunderbone"]Mexico is among the places I want to go to before I die.[/QUOTE]

    I live a few miles from TJ. With the drug lords warring right now you can visit right before you die. Shoot they unearth a bus with 72 corpses a year ago and 12 heads a few months ago.

    [/QUOTE]

    I live in San Diego, too... TJ, yeah you're right (even though I don't think it's as bad as all that -- the touristy stuff is still OK, like Avenida Revolucion. Just don't wander too far off the main drag). Outside of that, not all of Mexico is as bad as the media makes it out to be. Case in point, my wife and I are part owners on property that is about an hour South of Mexicali, on the river, and it's fantastic (OK, not actual owners, 'cause a non-Mexican National can't own land, but we have a "99 year lease"). We've been going down there for over 10 years, and we haven't had a single problem... The people are great, and incredibly friendly. They have very little, but are always willing to share what they DO have. That good-will and friendliness is what brings us back, time and time again.

    Bottom line... Stay away from the crap spots (Nogales, Jaurez -- and from what I've heard lately -- Puerto Vallarta) and you should be fine. Oh, and Cancun and Cabo San Lucas are the sh(i)t!

  • Level 20
    Metal Slime
    Posts: 112
    Aug 8, 2012 3:40 pm GMT

    ok, "mexican" is not a nowadays' language.

    "Mexican" refers to the old nahua language only spoken by native mexican indians.

    In Mexico people learn and speak Spanish. But of course, there are some cultural differences in vocabulary and sometimes in grammar.

    Notice that argentinian, peruan, colombian or anything like that are not considered present languages either.

    ok, "mexican" is not a nowadays' language.

    "Mexican" refers to the old nahua language only spoken by native mexican indians.

    In Mexico people learn and speak Spanish. But of course, there are some cultural differences in vocabulary and sometimes in grammar.

    Notice that argentinian, peruan, colombian or anything like that are not considered present languages either.

  • Level 2
    Journeyman
    Posts: 2
    Sep 18, 2012 9:24 am GMT
    I like gaming in English. A univershal language
    http://rozerpeterson.blogspot.in/
    I like gaming in English. A univershal language http://rozerpeterson.blogspot.in/
  • Level 2
    Journeyman
    Posts: 2
    Sep 19, 2012 7:10 pm GMT
    rozerpeterson wrote:
    I like gaming in English. A univershal language
    http://rozerpeterson.blogspot.in/
    [QUOTE="rozerpeterson"]I like gaming in English. A univershal language http://rozerpeterson.blogspot.in/[/QUOTE]
  • Level 11
    Atomic Punk
    Posts: 5
    User is Online
    Sep 22, 2012 4:51 pm GMT
    vernholio wrote:

    Masked_BSTRD wrote:

    thunderbone wrote:
    Mexico is among the places I want to go to before I die.

    I live a few miles from TJ. With the drug lords warring right now you can visit right before you die. Shoot they unearth a bus with 72 corpses a year ago and 12 heads a few months ago.

    I live in San Diego, too... TJ, yeah you're right (even though I don't think it's as bad as all that -- the touristy stuff is still OK, like Avenida Revolucion. Just don't wander too far off the main drag). Outside of that, not all of Mexico is as bad as the media makes it out to be. Case in point, my wife and I are part owners on property that is about an hour South of Mexicali, on the river, and it's fantastic (OK, not actual owners, 'cause a non-Mexican National can't own land, but we have a "99 year lease"). We've been going down there for over 10 years, and we haven't had a single problem... The people are great, and incredibly friendly. They have very little, but are always willing to share what they DO have. That good-will and friendliness is what brings us back, time and time again.

    Bottom line... Stay away from the crap spots (Nogales, Jaurez -- and from what I've heard lately -- Puerto Vallarta) and you should be fine. Oh, and Cancun and Cabo San Lucas are the sh(i)t!



    Yeah, I live in the Mexico City, I think when most of the people in other countries hear the word "Mexico", they imagine a short, drunk dude, sitting below a cactus in the desert or a fatass man with a cowboy hat wielding a gun and hitting a woman... and with all the "drug-war" news, no one want to visit Mexico now. The situation in the county sucks, in the north of the country (Tijuana, Monterrey, etc.) people can't go out of their houses because mostly they got involved in a gun fight between different drug gangs and obviously they got killed. The government obviously is all involved in this protecting gangs. Here in the center of the country the violence is not a problem, it is just like every other big city in the world, there is good nightlife, great festivals, beautiful places to visit and because of this, most people forget what our brothers in the north are living. There are a lot of non-violence movements against the government and the past July, fraudulent elections. And in the south, the people suffer of guerrilla wars, extreme poorness and they can't really do a lot about this. The country is beautiful, there are truly a lot of nature gems, but the government is selling all of that to rich, foreigner companies. You know... I'm ashamed of the people of my country. It is a huge beautiful place and we wouldn't need anything, but the people that had governed this place since the conquer of the mexican land. So bottom line, if you want to visit Mexico, go from the Mexico City and below. You wont regret it! (:
    [QUOTE="vernholio"]

    [QUOTE="Masked_BSTRD"]

    [QUOTE="thunderbone"]Mexico is among the places I want to go to before I die.[/QUOTE]

    I live a few miles from TJ. With the drug lords warring right now you can visit right before you die. Shoot they unearth a bus with 72 corpses a year ago and 12 heads a few months ago.

    [/QUOTE]

    I live in San Diego, too... TJ, yeah you're right (even though I don't think it's as bad as all that -- the touristy stuff is still OK, like Avenida Revolucion. Just don't wander too far off the main drag). Outside of that, not all of Mexico is as bad as the media makes it out to be. Case in point, my wife and I are part owners on property that is about an hour South of Mexicali, on the river, and it's fantastic (OK, not actual owners, 'cause a non-Mexican National can't own land, but we have a "99 year lease"). We've been going down there for over 10 years, and we haven't had a single problem... The people are great, and incredibly friendly. They have very little, but are always willing to share what they DO have. That good-will and friendliness is what brings us back, time and time again.

    Bottom line... Stay away from the crap spots (Nogales, Jaurez -- and from what I've heard lately -- Puerto Vallarta) and you should be fine. Oh, and Cancun and Cabo San Lucas are the sh(i)t!

    [/QUOTE] Yeah, I live in the Mexico City, I think when most of the people in other countries hear the word "Mexico", they imagine a short, drunk dude, sitting below a cactus in the desert or a fatass man with a cowboy hat wielding a gun and hitting a woman... and with all the "drug-war" news, no one want to visit Mexico now. The situation in the county sucks, in the north of the country (Tijuana, Monterrey, etc.) people can't go out of their houses because mostly they got involved in a gun fight between different drug gangs and obviously they got killed. The government obviously is all involved in this protecting gangs. Here in the center of the country the violence is not a problem, it is just like every other big city in the world, there is good nightlife, great festivals, beautiful places to visit and because of this, most people forget what our brothers in the north are living. There are a lot of non-violence movements against the government and the past July, fraudulent elections. And in the south, the people suffer of guerrilla wars, extreme poorness and they can't really do a lot about this. The country is beautiful, there are truly a lot of nature gems, but the government is selling all of that to rich, foreigner companies. You know... I'm ashamed of the people of my country. It is a huge beautiful place and we wouldn't need anything, but the people that had governed this place since the conquer of the mexican land. So bottom line, if you want to visit Mexico, go from the Mexico City and below. You wont regret it! (:
  • Level 37
    Heiankyo Alien
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    Oct 23, 2012 11:10 pm GMT

    vernholio wrote:
    I'd almost compare Mexican Spanish to Traditional Spanish the same way you might compare Simplified Chinese to Traditional Chinese.

    'Simplified' and 'traditional' do not refer to two different languages, just the way they arewritten. I apologise for my lengthy post below, but if more detail is required, please see this link<---clicquez y!

    The terms "Simplified Chinese" and "Traditional Chinese" have to do with written language, not spoken language. One does not compare the two in the way one compares Mexican Spanish to Spanish, even if one is comparing merely written language. "Simplified" Chinese is the writing system of China after the communists changed it (ruined it) in the fifties to make the Chinese writing system easier to learn. The spoken words are the same for traditional and simplified, they are just written differently. Traditional Chinese remains preserved in Hong Kong Chinese, Taiwanese Chinese, and even to some degree in Japanese /kanji/ ... of course, spoken languages of Taiwan and China vary quite a bit, and spoken Japanese has almost no semblance at all to these languages. I think @vernholio might have been thinking of Cantonese and Mandarin, the two most prominent Chinese languages--with Mandarin being deemed the "official" language of the country. If he wasn't, then I apologise.

    What's fascinating about Cantonese and Mandarin is, they are so different in the way they are spoken, yet they can both use the same writing! That is to say, if you wrote Chinese using traditional, a Cantonese speaker or a Mandarin speaker could read it just fine, and get the same meaning. However, Chinese people born after the 1950s (aside from those in Hong Kong, because it remained separate from communist China for so long) may encounter difficulties with traditional, as it was not taught in schools then. If you wrote Chinese using simplified, some words might seem strange to a Taiwanese, for example, because the characters that the written words are made of are often different.


    morfessa

    [QUOTE="vernholio"]I'd almost compare Mexican Spanish to Traditional Spanish the same way you might compare Simplified Chinese to Traditional Chinese.[/QUOTE]

    'Simplified' and 'traditional' do not refer to two different languages, just the way they arewritten. I apologise for my lengthy post below, but if more detail is required, please see this link<---clicquez y! :)

    The terms "Simplified Chinese" and "Traditional Chinese" have to do with written language, not spoken language. One does not compare the two in the way one compares Mexican Spanish to Spanish, even if one is comparing merely written language. "Simplified" Chinese is the writing system of China after the communists changed it (ruined it) in the fifties to make the Chinese writing system easier to learn. The spoken words are the same for traditional and simplified, they are just written differently. Traditional Chinese remains preserved in Hong Kong Chinese, Taiwanese Chinese, and even to some degree in Japanese /kanji/ ... of course, spoken languages of Taiwan and China vary quite a bit, and spoken Japanese has almost no semblance at all to these languages. I think @vernholio might have been thinking of Cantonese and Mandarin, the two most prominent Chinese languages--with Mandarin being deemed the "official" language of the country. If he wasn't, then I apologise.

    What's fascinating about Cantonese and Mandarin is, they are so different in the way they are spoken, yet they can both use the same writing! That is to say, if you wrote Chinese using traditional, a Cantonese speaker or a Mandarin speaker could read it just fine, and get the same meaning. However, Chinese people born after the 1950s (aside from those in Hong Kong, because it remained separate from communist China for so long) may encounter difficulties with traditional, as it was not taught in schools then. If you wrote Chinese using simplified, some words might seem strange to a Taiwanese, for example, because the characters that the written words are made of are often different.

  • Level 24
    I Feel Asleep!!
    Posts: 291
    Feb 7, 2013 6:50 pm GMT

    Well, then we would be speaking American at the moment, and not English, right? It's a dialect...it was fundamentally Spanish at some point, and they grew distant from their homeland and developed an alternative culture. To be frank, I know some Spanish individuals who detest the Mexican language and take insult at it being called "Spanish," just like I know some British individals who feel the same about the American language.

    Well, then we would be speaking American at the moment, and not English, right? It's a dialect...it was fundamentally Spanish at some point, and they grew distant from their homeland and developed an alternative culture. To be frank, I know some Spanish individuals who detest the Mexican language and take insult at it being called "Spanish," just like I know some British individals who feel the same about the American language.

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