Gaming at 30fps (double frames,stuttering) PC and question about Hz

Hi.
1) I notice that playing at 30 or below 50fps most games makes double frames,when i rotate camera the image is very unclear and it looks like two same frames are displayed at the same time or maybe last frame is still not cleared from the monitor and another goes on top. Why this is happening?Is there any solution to avoid this ? another thing I notice when playing on a console at 30fps "double frame effect" are far less noticeable.
here i made a good example of "double frames" or whatever it is . At the beginning you will see 60fps then 30fps and again 60fps

http://dc117.2shared.com/download/1oiW1udn/Skyrim60fps30fps60fps.mp4?tsid=20120214-123004-91187dc6

if link not working try this

http://www.mediafire.com/?j0jfzowyp5rzve4

2) second question is . why when I'm playing at 50Hz I'm getting 50fps,when at 60Hz=60fps but when at 30Hz I'm getting 60fps not 30fps ?

i doubt many people want to download random files. id suggest putting the vid on youtube and giving a link.

I have tried to put my vid on youtube ,but youtube cuts frames and there is no difference in my vid 60fps or 30fps,it looks the same like i was recording all video at 30frames .

Youtube only supports 30fps

Hi.
1) I notice that playing at 30 or below 50fps most games makes double frames,when i rotate camera the image is very unclear and it looks like two same frames are displayed at the same time or maybe last frame is still not cleared from the monitor and another goes on top. Why this is happening?Is there any solution to avoid this ? another thing I notice when playing on a console at 30fps "double frame effect" are far less noticeable.
here i made a good example of "double frames" or whatever it is . At the beginning you will see 60fps then 30fps and again 60fps

http://dc117.2shared.com/download/1oiW1udn/Skyrim60fps30fps60fps.mp4?tsid=20120214-123004-91187dc6

if link not working try this

http://www.mediafire.com/?j0jfzowyp5rzve4

2) second question is . why when I'm playing at 50Hz I'm getting 50fps,when at 60Hz=60fps but when at 30Hz I'm getting 60fps not 30fps ?

laimis911

@Blistrax

thanks for the information about the refresh rate ,but i can't understand what makes games on a PC's to look so poorly when playing at 30fps while playing on a console 30fps looks nice and smooth .

@Blistrax

thanks for the information about the refresh rate ,but i can't understand what makes games on a PC's to look so poorly when playing at 30fps while playing on a console 30fps looks nice and smooth .

laimis911

[QUOTE="laimis911"]

@Blistrax

thanks for the information about the refresh rate ,but i can't understand what makes games on a PC's to look so poorly when playing at 30fps while playing on a console 30fps looks nice and smooth .

Blistrax

I have a budget gaming rig Phenom II X4 955BE , HD6870, 4Gb ram . for me it's quite enough and I played those games you mentioned in the future I'll go with the intel processor

Your rig does not totally suck, my friend, but it will struggle with the more demanding games at higher resolutions and settings. I think you would see more improvement per simoleon in the graphics card than in the CPU, if you have to choose, by the way.Blistrax

well while my graphics card is not the worst and can handle pretty well i notice that i rather choose a good processor ,because in some games i have some spikes when game freezes for a second or slowdowns due to slow CPU ,i did some real time benchmarking and my card sometimes runs only at 60-80% of its power . So I think processor is equally important and in my case mine is to slow . what processor do you have and how it performs ?

My rig is in my sig. The CPU is an i5 2500. I'm pretty sure I'm wound out for gaming as of February 2012. I'm running Warhead 1920X1200, Enthusiast, 16xQ AA and balls out in global settings, with distance tweaked to the horizon and getting good fps---averages around 50. You might be right about the CPU. More better everything is my motto.Blistrax

here i have another video locked at 30fps to show you guys how bad my games are at 30fps and this problem only when frame rates do not matches refresh rate ,even if my PC can run this game at 60fps i want to know why this is happening at 30fps

game called Deus Ex: Human Revolution

http://www.mediafire.com/?7fvnx1tnae56sb9

here i have another video locked at 30fps to show you guys how bad my games are at 30fps and this problem only when frame rates do not matches refresh rate ,even if my PC can run this game at 60fps i want to know why this is happening at 30fps

game called Deus Ex: Human Revolution

http://www.mediafire.com/?7fvnx1tnae56sb9

mintis911

[QUOTE="mintis911"]

here i have another video locked at 30fps to show you guys how bad my games are at 30fps and this problem only when frame rates do not matches refresh rate ,even if my PC can run this game at 60fps i want to know why this is happening at 30fps

game called Deus Ex: Human Revolution

http://www.mediafire.com/?7fvnx1tnae56sb9

Blistrax

OK, I give up. What are you talking about? Are you saying that you are running some sort of framerate limiter? If so, what is it?Blistrax

OK, how about not keeping that a secret next time? You still haven't said which one you're running. It's like pulling my own teeth, here. There's your problem. Stop using it. God knows how they work , but I wouldn't expect the result to be good. It's additional load, everything else aside. I have to guess that they put up a frame at 1/30 sec whether it's ready or not.Blistrax

What TV/monitor are you using the console and PC on?

What TV/monitor are you using the console and PC on?

WiiRocks66

OK, I looked at the second one. I see the double image. Stop running the frame limiter. I doubt even the game programmers could tell you exactly what's happening there, but it ain't pretty. My wild guess, based on nothing all, certain to be pure BS under close analysis, is that motion blur is clashing with the framerate limiter.Blistrax

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What TV/monitor are you using the console and PC on?

mintis911

Ok. Usually it's an issue with plasmas and 30fps games with motion blur. The game purposefully displays double frames. An LCD blurs them together, creating a blur effect. But on a plasma or CRT, since their response times are so low, they don't blur the double frames and you can see them. It can also be an issue on higher end IPS panel LCDs, but it's an issue on every plasma.

Ok. Usually it's an issue with plasmas and 30fps games with motion blur. The game purposefully displays double frames. An LCD blurs them together, creating a blur effect. But on a plasma or CRT, since their response times are so low, they don't blur the double frames and you can see them. It can also be an issue on higher end IPS panel LCDs, but it's an issue on every plasma.

WiiRocks66