| Bulls | 2% [1] |
| Heat | 32% [14] |
| Spurs | 25% [11] |
| Thunder | 32% [14] |
| Other (Please Specify) | 9% [4] |
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- Nov 28, 2011 1:21 pm GMT

The Basketball season starts on Christmas Day, what are your thoughts for this season and lockout?
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/A-reminder-that-the-players-lost-the-lockout-qui;_ylt=Ap2KrnD4eVTm34fdMJMP.De8vLYF?urn=nba-wp11008
http://z6mag.com/sports/nba-lockout-news-nba-season-is-not-cancelled-players-fans-are-both-happy-163304.html
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- Nov 28, 2011 2:49 pm GMTThe owners didn't get any of the hardline stuff they were fapping over since july. I don't see how they won this lockout
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- Nov 28, 2011 3:10 pm GMT
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LastFM^I think the owners won but they didn't win as much as they were hoping to. They still get 6-7% more of the Basketball-Related Income than they had last year...the players surely didn't win.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Nov 28, 2011 3:21 pm GMT
And on the seventh day, God rested. Having created the heavens and the Earth, the seas and all they contain, He ceased all labors. But the seventh day being a Sunday, and with all of His fantasy teams playing, He needed a shortstop. So God created Derek Jeter, and blessed him, and said unto him, be fruitful. And Jeter was good. Jeter held dominion over opposing pitchers (.343 AVG in 2006), was plentiful in power (14 HR and 97 RBIs), and moved over the earth (34 steals) and across home plate (118 runs). And God blessed Jeter, and sanctified him, and said to Roto owners everywhere, make Jeter your No. 1 middle infielder.
Owners didn't win, NBA going downhill when only big city teams keep winning. No hard salary cap like NFL, no revenue sharing like baseball. Players just go to big cities and that it's.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Nov 28, 2011 3:50 pm GMT[QUOTE="Master_Live"]Owners didn't win, NBA going downhill when only big city teams keep winning. No hard salary cap like NFL, no revenue sharing like baseball. Players just go to big cities and that it's. [/QUOTE] Ignoring the fact that Miami, New York, the Clippers, The Bulls the Celtics, the Knicks have all in the recent past been abysmal.
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- Nov 28, 2011 3:53 pm GMTGoomba92 wrote:No **** Sega, you hear me **** SEGA! They always pushed Nintendo acted like the cool kid and then one day they realized you can not be cool forever. Sony became latest cool kid and Sega went crawling for mercy **** them. I had a fiesta when the Dreamcast tanked happiest years of my life. Nintendo have always cared about the consumer and Sega should be kissing their *** for letting them put their crap games on the console after they made fun of Nintendo. I ****ING HATE SEGA MORE THAN $ONY AND Micrarestealingsoft. I honestly want them to go away and Sonic is the most annoying character to fight in Super Smash Bros, I swear to God Super Sonic ****s me up everytime the SOB
[QUOTE="-Halftime-"][QUOTE="Master_Live"]Owners didn't win, NBA going downhill when only big city teams keep winning. No hard salary cap like NFL, no revenue sharing like baseball. Players just go to big cities and that it's. [/QUOTE] Ignoring the fact that Miami, New York, the Clippers, The Bulls the Celtics, the Knicks have all in the recent past been abysmal.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't say Miami has been abysmal, unless you're looking way into the past. But for about five years in a row Miami did make it to the Playoffs and they did win the championship in 2006.
But Boston, Clippers, Bulls and NY were all pretty bad for a long time until basically recently, except the Clippers. They're still pretty bad.
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- Nov 28, 2011 4:04 pm GMT
[QUOTE="Master_Live"]Owners didn't win, NBA going downhill when only big city teams keep winning. No hard salary cap like NFL, no revenue sharing like baseball. Players just go to big cities and that it's. [/QUOTE]Nobody won, fact. Clippers need to move or be removed as a franchise.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Nov 28, 2011 4:16 pm GMT[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]
[QUOTE="-Halftime-"][QUOTE="Master_Live"]Owners didn't win, NBA going downhill when only big city teams keep winning. No hard salary cap like NFL, no revenue sharing like baseball. Players just go to big cities and that it's. [/QUOTE] Ignoring the fact that Miami, New York, the Clippers, The Bulls the Celtics, the Knicks have all in the recent past been abysmal.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't say Miami has been abysmal, unless you're looking way into the past. But for about five years in a row Miami did make it to the Playoffs and they did win the championship in 2006.
But Boston, Clippers, Bulls and NY were all pretty bad for a long time until basically recently, except the Clippers. They're still pretty bad.
[/QUOTE] A couple seasons ago the Heat were terrible. They had two abysmal years in a row. Market has the same effect in basketball as it does in football or baseball. Players would rather play in LA or Miami than a place like Milwaukee. But small market teams can and will win if the owners draft well and spend their money wisely. The Spurs didn't win 4 titles by luck. They drafted well, spent their money when they needed to, and kept the team on top. There is absolutely no reason why other small market teams can't do the same. Other than the fact they they are cheap, sign bad players to bad deals, and can't draft worth a damn.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Nov 28, 2011 4:45 pm GMT
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Tayshaun Prince... PLEASE COME TO SAN ANTONIO
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[QUOTE="-Halftime-"][QUOTE="NeonNinja"]
[QUOTE="-Halftime-"] Ignoring the fact that Miami, New York, the Clippers, The Bulls the Celtics, the Knicks have all in the recent past been abysmal.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't say Miami has been abysmal, unless you're looking way into the past. But for about five years in a row Miami did make it to the Playoffs and they did win the championship in 2006.
But Boston, Clippers, Bulls and NY were all pretty bad for a long time until basically recently, except the Clippers. They're still pretty bad.
[/QUOTE] A couple seasons ago the Heat were terrible. They had two abysmal years in a row. Market has the same effect in basketball as it does in football or baseball. Players would rather play in LA or Miami than a place like Milwaukee. But small market teams can and will win if the owners draft well and spend their money wisely. The Spurs didn't win 4 titles by luck. They drafted well, spent their money when they needed to, and kept the team on top. There is absolutely no reason why other small market teams can't do the same. Other than the fact they they are cheap, sign bad players to bad deals, and can't draft worth a damn.[/QUOTE]
I agree with Halftime on this one; both on how the owners are the ones failing and that the Heat were at one point terrible. :lol:
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- Nov 28, 2011 6:17 pm GMT[QUOTE="fudger2"]
Tayshaun Prince... PLEASE COME TO SAN ANTONIO
[/QUOTE] I think he's coming to chicago where they could possibly play Deng at SG- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Nov 28, 2011 9:14 pm GMT[QUOTE="PSP107"][QUOTE="fudger2"]
Tayshaun Prince... PLEASE COME TO SAN ANTONIO
[/QUOTE] I think he's coming to chicago where they could possibly play Deng at SG[/QUOTE] Going to the Clippers is another possibility. They are really in need of a SF and one that has post season experience as well.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Nov 28, 2011 10:31 pm GMT[QUOTE="Stuffed_Monkey"][QUOTE="PSP107"][QUOTE="fudger2"]
Tayshaun Prince... PLEASE COME TO SAN ANTONIO
[/QUOTE] I think he's coming to chicago where they could possibly play Deng at SG[/QUOTE] Going to the Clippers is another possibility. They are really in need of a SF and one that has post season experience as well. [/QUOTE] I want the PIstons to do a sign and trade with Prince for Chris Kaman. Probably too idealistic though lol.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Nov 29, 2011 2:38 pm GMT
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[QUOTE="GodofBigMacs"][QUOTE="Stuffed_Monkey"][QUOTE="PSP107"] I think he's coming to chicago where they could possibly play Deng at SG[/QUOTE] Going to the Clippers is another possibility. They are really in need of a SF and one that has post season experience as well. [/QUOTE] I want the PIstons to do a sign and trade with Prince for Chris Kaman. Probably too idealistic though lol. [/QUOTE] I don't think Prince is a money guy, I think he'd want to go to a winner. So Chicago seems more likely.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- But the fact remains that the Rangers, Giants, Rockies, Rays, etc. have made the WS. When have we seen the Kings, Bucks, Hornets make the finals?
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- Nov 29, 2011 4:37 pm GMT

[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]But the fact remains that the Rangers, Giants, Rockies, Rays, etc. have made the WS. When have we seen the Kings, Bucks, Hornets make the finals? [/QUOTE] That's due to bad moves. The Rays sucked for the longest, but then they started making moves that worked out/smart- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Nov 29, 2011 5:15 pm GMT
[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]But the fact remains that the Rangers, Giants, Rockies, Rays, etc. have made the WS. When have we seen the Kings, Bucks, Hornets make the finals? [/QUOTE] Some of the smallest markets in the league are constantly in the conference finals and going deep in the playoffs. Let's not act like Sacramento, Phoenix, Salt Lake City, Portland, Detroit, Oklahoma City, Orlando, etc, havent all played deep in the playoffs in the last ten seasons, some of them for many years in a row. Hell, Salt Lake City and Portland were two of the most consistent teams in the league relatively recently. Orlando was in the Finals a few years ago, and Detroit won a title. The Bucks were in the Eastern Conference Finals ten seasons ago. So were the Kings. Indiana was great every year for a long time. Memphis has the most promising team in the league not named OKC and they knocked off a one seed last year. Minneapolis was an annual playoff contender till they started doing stupid things. New Orleans had the best record in the west 3 seasons ago. It's not about market. It's about decisions.
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- Nov 29, 2011 5:54 pm GMT[QUOTE="-Halftime-"]
[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]But the fact remains that the Rangers, Giants, Rockies, Rays, etc. have made the WS. When have we seen the Kings, Bucks, Hornets make the finals? [/QUOTE] Some of the smallest markets in the league are constantly in the conference finals and going deep in the playoffs. Let's not act like Sacramento, Phoenix, Salt Lake City, Portland, Detroit, Oklahoma City, Orlando, etc, havent all played deep in the playoffs in the last ten seasons, some of them for many years in a row. Hell, Salt Lake City and Portland were two of the most consistent teams in the league relatively recently. Orlando was in the Finals a few years ago, and Detroit won a title. The Bucks were in the Eastern Conference Finals ten seasons ago. So were the Kings. Indiana was great every year for a long time. Memphis has the most promising team in the league not named OKC and they knocked off a one seed last year. Minneapolis was an annual playoff contender till they started doing stupid things. New Orleans had the best record in the west 3 seasons ago. It's not about market. It's about decisions.
[/QUOTE] People say the regular season in the nba the doesnt matter. funny because i think thats more true in baseball/football considering wildcard teams end up winning it all. The NBA teams that have a good season all year long end up winning it while if you get hot at the end of the season of baseball and football, you could win it all.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Nov 29, 2011 6:01 pm GMT
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LastFM[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]But the fact remains that the Rangers, Giants, Rockies, Rays, etc. have made the WS. When have we seen the Kings, Bucks, Hornets make the finals? [/QUOTE]
When's the last time we've seen the Royals, Orioles, Brewers, or Athletics make the World Series? I think it's been decades or never for all of them.
Yeah the Brewers were really close this year..but the Hornets have been a solid team and the Kings probably should have been in the finals at least once semi-recently.
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- Nov 29, 2011 6:38 pm GMT[QUOTE="JML897"]
[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]But the fact remains that the Rangers, Giants, Rockies, Rays, etc. have made the WS. When have we seen the Kings, Bucks, Hornets make the finals? [/QUOTE]
When's the last time we've seen the Royals, Orioles, Brewers, or Athletics make the World Series? I think it's been decades or never for all of them.
Yeah the Brewers were really close this year..but the Hornets have been a solid team and the Kings probably should have been in the finals at least once semi-recently.
[/QUOTE] Bucks went to Game 7 in the Eastern conference finals in 2001 while The Kings went to the Western Conference finals in 2002- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.







