GTA 4 vs San Andreas (A list of things that one game has over the other)

San Andreas took GTA to the next level in terms of gameplay, and content. GTA 4 took it to the next level in terms of graphics, and physics.

But which is more important? Content? or Realism?

Lets take a look at what San Andreas had that GTA 4 didnt. (tell me if im missing anything and ill add it in)

Customization

- Sculpting/changing the way your body looks
- Hair $tyle including facial hair $tyle
- Tattoo's
- A way Larger variety of clothes to wear
- Customizing a car with great depth
- Choosing your fighting $tyle

Abilities

- Under water diving
- Executions
- Duel wielding
- Sky diving
- Riding a bicycle
- Flying planes
- Gambling
- Buying safe houses
- Buying business properties that generate income
- Saving your vehicle in a garage
- 2 player
- RPG elements (Leveling up your guns. Your health. Your stamina. Your driving. Your piloting. Your motorcylce skills and many more)

Other Stuff

- A change in scenery (From Los Santos, the country side, San Fierro, the desert, and Las Venturas)
- Gangs (8 different in game gangs)
- Gang territories
- Tanks
- Military
- Longer campain
- More mini games
- More side missions
- Better cheats
- Better cheat imputs (L1, L2, R1, R2, up, down, left, right, up, down, left, right >>> cell phone, where if you get shot he puts the phone away)
- More variety in mission


Now lets take a look at what GTA 4 had that San Andreas didn't. (Tell me if i am mission anything and ill put them in)

Customization

- Nothing

Abilites

- Cover system
- Internet
- Multiplayer (San Andreas only had multiplayer on PC)
- Getting drunk (Although in one San Andreas mission you did get high :P)
- Cell phone

Other Stuff

- Better graphics
- Better Physics
- Realism
- Simple missions


All right folks. This was all i can think of. Just tell mewhat im missing and ill add it in.

Now for a discussion. Can Rockstar keep what GTA 4 had but add in the amount of content that San Andreas had? I dont think current system can handle such a beastly game. Highly detailed cities the size of San Andreas would be extremely hard. Thats why i think they will only stick with one san andreas city and that will be Los Santos but a huge highly detailed Los Santos. But i hope it will have a few country sides along with it for a change in scenery. Plus i hope they bring back the RPG elements of San Andreas that had me addicted to the game. Rockstar, please just bring back everything that San Andreas had.

Thoughts?

you can get drunk on GTA SA, a few servers on SAMP have it as a scripted feature despite it being really basic lol.Just thought i would chime in with it since you've made points bout GTA SA having MP on PC through modification lol.

Well from what it sounds like Rockstar is taking apart different cities in SA and making it one whole game which will be kind of weird since it will still feel small. Also i wish they would have used las venturas or san fierro I mean they can do more with san fierro then santoseboyishere

[QUOTE="eboyishere"]Well from what it sounds like Rockstar is taking apart different cities in SA and making it one whole game which will be kind of weird since it will still feel small. Also i wish they would have used las venturas or san fierro I mean they can do more with san fierro then santosOmega-316

From the rumors it sounds like CJ isnt the main character this time. HE might be in it but not the star of it.

...so? Future games of the franchise always remove and change things; have you never played a single fighting game?meconate

[QUOTE="Omega-316"]

[QUOTE="eboyishere"]Well from what it sounds like Rockstar is taking apart different cities in SA and making it one whole game which will be kind of weird since it will still feel small. Also i wish they would have used las venturas or san fierro I mean they can do more with san fierro then santoseboyishere

From the rumors it sounds like CJ isnt the main character this time. HE might be in it but not the star of it.

[QUOTE="Omega-316"]

[QUOTE="meconate"]...so? Future games of the franchise always remove and change things; have you never played a single fighting game?meconate

You seem to have misunderstood my point, and therefore I believe you've never played a fighting game; a genre in which characters and abilities are removed, even if you've grown to love that character so much. (Take MvC2 and MvC3 for example.)

Many developers change and remove things that people loved in games to start afresh and try something different. Oh another example, Splinter Cell: Double Agent and Conviction. Huge difference, yet they're both just as good.

a genre in which characters and abilities are removedmeconate

Now lets take a look at what GTA 4 had that San Andreas didn't. (Tell me if i am mission anything and ill put them in)


Abilites

- Cell phone

Omega-316

Hey now, San Andreas had a cell phone...You had to press L1 to answer it... :P

And you basically summed up why I hated GTAIV.foxhound_fox

Yeah you could do more in San Andreas but I prefer the realism of GTA 4. Its a masterpiece, so much detail, so much happening all the time, it feels alive.tomarlyn

And you basically summed up why I hated GTAIV.foxhound_fox

You forgot gang territories for SA. That was some of the best parts of the game. Content wins for me every time. I've beaten SA five or six times and will probably play it again, and only beaten IV once and will never play it again.

Because you were playing it for the wrong reasons?drinkerofjuice

You forgot gang territories for SA. That was some of the best parts of the game. Content wins for me every time. I've beaten SA five or six times and will probably play it again, and only beaten IV once and will never play it again.

Bigboi500

Parking in a garage as opposed to a parking spot is a major plus for SA? Seems like a lot of nitpicking to me. We have to account that GTA 4 was a new engine for next gen consoles, a rebirth of the franchise. I would take the physics, realism, and story of GTA 4. It could use some of the variety of SA though.

I can say one thing, I prefered the multi-city plus country side environment of San Andreas over the single city environment in GTA3 and GTA4.

yep, I liked San Andres more than 4, but 4 was still a fantastic game :)

Flying Airplanes! I was soo dissapointed when I found you couldnt fly air planes in GTA IV, I mean, sure it only has one air port so no point in having air planes but still! They could of had a little single engine plane or a biplane that you could get through a cheat. But no :(

I soo hope in GTA V, there is more than one airport and flyable air planes.

I also want real cheats.

Parking in a garage as opposed to a parking spot is a major plus for SA? Seems like a lot of nitpicking to me. We have to account that GTA 4 was a new engine for next gen consoles, a rebirth of the franchise. I would take the physics, realism, and story of GTA 4. It could use some of the variety of SA though.

15strong

It wasnt a major plus for the game, but atleast in GTA SA when you had the cops after you and you would run pass your house, the cops wouldnt steal your vehicles. This happens to me too often in GTA IV

[QUOTE="drinkerofjuice"]Because you were playing it for the wrong reasons?foxhound_fox

if we are being fair we should compare 3 to 4 and not SA, both 3 and 4 where brand new games using brand new mechanics

[QUOTE="15strong"]

Parking in a garage as opposed to a parking spot is a major plus for SA? Seems like a lot of nitpicking to me. We have to account that GTA 4 was a new engine for next gen consoles, a rebirth of the franchise. I would take the physics, realism, and story of GTA 4. It could use some of the variety of SA though.

Gamingclone

It wasnt a major plus for the game, but atleast in GTA SA when you had the cops after you and you would run pass your house, the cops wouldnt steal your vehicles. This happens to me too often in GTA IV

Never happedned to me but it sounds hilarious.

You can change your outsit in GTAIV so it does have some level of customization.

I didn't like San Andreas and at the time I wrote a pretty harsh review about it. But if I had to be completely honest, it just felt like one big clunky mess (and no, I won't list it's faults). GTA IV felt so smooth and had more atmosphere to both the game-play and the story-line itself. Yeah, you were very limited and there isn't a right whole lot to do after you've finished the main story (aside from multiplayer and very few side-missions) but it was worth that experience.meconate

I agree with you on that. I don't appreciate a huge number of things to do, but when its clunky as all hell it gets frustrating. However, I think the franchise should move forward by adding the level of polish GTA4 had to the craziness of SA. Frankly, I think GTA4 could've been a lot more with another 6 months in the shop and I mean A LOT more. I think, looking at what they did in BoGT, its very possible for GTA5 to be the best of what GTA4 and SA both represented.

I still prefer the 4th one.

I still prefer the 4th one.

freedomfreak

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]

I still prefer the 4th one.

Slashless

Never played San Andreas but I remember GTA4 having a really bad story.

San Andreas took GTA to the next level in terms of gameplay, and content. GTA 4 took it to the next level in terms of graphics, and physics.

But which is more important? Content? or Realism?

Lets take a look at what San Andreas had that GTA 4 didnt. (tell me if im missing anything and ill add it in)

Customization

- Sculpting/changing the way your body looks
- Hair $tyle including facial hair $tyle
- Tattoo's
- A way Larger variety of clothes to wear
- Customizing a car with great depth
- Choosing your fighting $tyle

Abilities

- Under water diving
- Executions
- Duel wielding
- Sky diving
- Riding a bicycle
- Flying planes
- Gambling
- Buying safe houses
- Buying business properties that generate income
- Saving your vehicle in a garage
- 2 player
- RPG elements (Leveling up your guns. Your health. Your stamina. Your driving. Your piloting. Your motorcylce skills and many more)

Other Stuff

- A change in scenery (From Los Santos, the country side, San Fierro, the desert, and Las Venturas)
- Gangs (8 different in game gangs)
- Gang territories
- Tanks
- Military
- Longer campain
- More mini games
- More side missions
- Better cheats
- Better cheat imputs (L1, L2, R1, R2, up, down, left, right, up, down, left, right >>> cell phone, where if you get shot he puts the phone away)
- More variety in mission


Now lets take a look at what GTA 4 had that San Andreas didn't. (Tell me if i am mission anything and ill put them in)

Customization

- Nothing

Abilites

- Cover system
- Internet
- Multiplayer (San Andreas only had multiplayer on PC)
- Getting drunk (Although in one San Andreas mission you did get high :P)
- Cell phone

Other Stuff

- Better graphics
- Better Physics
- Realism
- Simple missions


All right folks. This was all i can think of. Just tell mewhat im missing and ill add it in.

Now for a discussion. Can Rockstar keep what GTA 4 had but add in the amount of content that San Andreas had? I dont think current system can handle such a beastly game. Highly detailed cities the size of San Andreas would be extremely hard. Thats why i think they will only stick with one san andreas city and that will be Los Santos but a huge highly detailed Los Santos. But i hope it will have a few country sides along with it for a change in scenery. Plus i hope they bring back the RPG elements of San Andreas that had me addicted to the game. Rockstar, please just bring back everything that San Andreas had.

Thoughts?

Omega-316

San Andreas = Hope for GTA

GTA 4 = Reminder why i didn't like the franchise in the first place.

Quite Clearly they have to be different games.. my mind refuses to believe Niko is worth sh!t.

And you basically summed up why I hated GTAIV.foxhound_fox

the GTA3 series was generally loved and a pillar of the industry. GTA4 has fractured support and a fraction of the cultural impact. The fact that there are so many GTA4 threads is a great ad for Rockstar but these same arguments have cycled over and over and has become more boring than GTA4 itself.GunSmith1_basic