Maximum PC builds $667 Gaming PC that can do 1080P-Runs circles around PS3/X360

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"To see if the PC Value Meal actually had the chops to perform in less lofty circumstances, we dialed back the resolution to 1920x1080, the resolution that budget PC gamers typically run."

Crysis 2, Left 4 Dead, Portal 2, Total War: Shogan 2, and Battlefield: Bad Company all ran maxed out @1080P with playable framerates.

Who says PC gaming is expensive?

GPU Sapphire Radeon HD 6790...................$150
CPU Intel Core i3-2100..............................$126
DVD Samsung SH-S223A............................$22
MB Gigabyte GA-H67M-D2-B3..................... $90
PSU Rosewill RG530-S12 ...........................$50.
RAM Patriot 4GB DDR3/1333.......................$40
CASE Rosewill R218.................................. $30
HDD Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB...........$60
OS OEM Windows 7 Home Premium.............$99
TOTAL COST............................................$667

With Steam Sales this Gaming PC will MORE than pay for itself.

so 667 is less than 200-300 now?

Not bad. But that's not including a good 1920x1080/1200 monitor. That'll cost you another 200 at least.

Not bad. But that's not including a good 1920x1080/1200 monitor. That'll cost you another 200 at least.

BigBoss154

You dont add TV's to consoles, don't add monitors to PC's.

so 667 is less than 2000-3000 now?

Chris_Williams

The average exaggeration yes. If you love your hobby, money shouldn't be an issue.

so 667 is less than 200-300 now?

Chris_Williams

667 isn't expensive? then an upgrade a cpl of years later?...I love the PC but it is expensive if you want the best experience

Not bad. But that's not including a good 1920x1080/1200 monitor. That'll cost you another 200 at least.

BigBoss154

[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

Not bad. But that's not including a good 1920x1080/1200 monitor. That'll cost you another 200 at least.

Arach666

[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

Not bad. But that's not including a good 1920x1080/1200 monitor. That'll cost you another 200 at least.

agpickle

You dont add TV's to consoles, don't add monitors to PC's.

Chances are somebody buying a new PC like this doesn't have a a 1080p monitor yet.

Someone buying a console on the other hand, is almost certain to have a 720p TV because they don't sell CRT's anymore. It makes perfect sense.

This is coming from a guy with a £2000 PC.

[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

Not bad. But that's not including a good 1920x1080/1200 monitor. That'll cost you another 200 at least.

Arach666

Yea, my ps3 cost me $1200.

so 667 is less than 200-300 now?

Chris_Williams

[QUOTE="agpickle"]

[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

Not bad. But that's not including a good 1920x1080/1200 monitor. That'll cost you another 200 at least.

BigBoss154

You dont add TV's to consoles, don't add monitors to PC's.

Chances are somebody buying a new PC like this doesn't have a a 1080p monitor yet.

Someone buying a console on the other hand, is almost certain to have a 720p TV because they don't sell CRT's anymore. It makes perfect sense.

This is coming from a guy with a £2000 PC.

They could just use that TV for a monitor.

[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

[QUOTE="agpickle"]

You dont add TV's to consoles, don't add monitors to PC's.

agpickle

Chances are somebody buying a new PC like this doesn't have a a 1080p monitor yet.

Someone buying a console on the other hand, is almost certain to have a 720p TV because they don't sell CRT's anymore. It makes perfect sense.

This is coming from a guy with a £2000 PC.

They could just use that TV for a monitor.

Not all TV's have DVI support, and not all graphics cards have HDMI ports if they decide to hook it up via HDMI.

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

so 667 is less than 200-300 now?

lightleggy

Meh, i can do better.

Radeon 6850

Phenom 955 Black

Asus AM3+ mobo

4gb gskill DDR3

Antec 550watt

1tb WD HDD

NXZT EVo Beta

Samsung DVD Burner

Windows 7 home premium

All for $657, $10 less than max PC's build. ANd it has a $15 MiB. And the mobo is AM3+ so you can upgrade to bulldozer later on.

[QUOTE="agpickle"]

[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

Chances are somebody buying a new PC like this doesn't have a a 1080p monitor yet.

Someone buying a console on the other hand, is almost certain to have a 720p TV because they don't sell CRT's anymore. It makes perfect sense.

This is coming from a guy with a £2000 PC.

BigBoss154

They could just use that TV for a monitor.

Not all TV's have DVI support, and not all graphics cards have HDMI ports if they decide to hook it up via HDMI.

DVI to HDMI adapter is like $5 and comes with many cards.

[QUOTE="agpickle"]

[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

Chances are somebody buying a new PC like this doesn't have a a 1080p monitor yet.

Someone buying a console on the other hand, is almost certain to have a 720p TV because they don't sell CRT's anymore. It makes perfect sense.

This is coming from a guy with a £2000 PC.

BigBoss154

They could just use that TV for a monitor.

Not all TV's have DVI support, and not all graphics cards have HDMI ports if they decide to hook it up via HDMI.

[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

[QUOTE="agpickle"]

They could just use that TV for a monitor.

Heil68

Not all TV's have DVI support, and not all graphics cards have HDMI ports if they decide to hook it up via HDMI.

[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

[QUOTE="agpickle"]

They could just use that TV for a monitor.

Heil68

Not all TV's have DVI support, and not all graphics cards have HDMI ports if they decide to hook it up via HDMI.

I'd say "why are you still living in the 90s, son?" :P

[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

Not all TV's have DVI support, and not all graphics cards have HDMI ports if they decide to hook it up via HDMI.

BigBoss154

I'd say "why are you still living in the 90s, son?" :P

And truthfully you can go down to any thrift store and pick up a CRT monitor for $5, and you have a monitor that already displays stuff at a higher res than consoles.

[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

[QUOTE="agpickle"]

They could just use that TV for a monitor.

tempest91

Not all TV's have DVI support, and not all graphics cards have HDMI ports if they decide to hook it up via HDMI.

DVI to HDMI adapter is like $5 and comes with many cards.

My point is, that all these things add up. Excluding things that are an essential part of a new PC is stupid. You're only going to be disappointed when the day comes.

Not sure why PC gamers are so desperate to try to convince others that PC Gaming isn't so expensive?

I get it. You can do research,buy a bunch of parts and assemble a decent machine for a not unreasonable cost. Or you go to the store and buy something completely assembled for a lot less.

If you are inclined to PC gaming then the upfront cost and effort is not that huge a barrier. If you are not inclined to PC Gaming then a console is a lot cheaper and easier to buy.

I don't see why people think that everyone else should think the same way as they do. There are two different, but related markets.

Not sure why PC gamers are so desperate to try to convince others that PC Gaming isn't so expensive?

I get it. You can do research,buy a bunch of parts and assemble a decent machine for a not unreasonable cost. Or you go to the store and buy something completely assembled for a lot less.

If you are inclined to PC gaming then the upfront cost and effort is not that huge a barrier. If you are not inclined to PC Gaming then a console is a lot cheaper and easier to buy.

I don't see why people think that everyone else should think the same way as they do. There are two different, but related markets.

SUD123456

[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

[QUOTE="agpickle"]

They could just use that TV for a monitor.

Heil68

Not all TV's have DVI support, and not all graphics cards have HDMI ports if they decide to hook it up via HDMI.

[QUOTE="tempest91"]

[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

Not all TV's have DVI support, and not all graphics cards have HDMI ports if they decide to hook it up via HDMI.

BigBoss154

DVI to HDMI adapter is like $5 and comes with many cards.

My point is, that all these things add up. Excluding things that are an essential part of a new PC is stupid. You're only going to be disappointed when the day comes.

also at moments like this I wonder why my PC costed 900 dollars...lightleggy

Not sure why PC gamers are so desperate to try to convince others that PC Gaming isn't so expensive?

I get it. You can do research,buy a bunch of parts and assemble a decent machine for a not unreasonable cost. Or you go to the store and buy something completely assembled for a lot less.

If you are inclined to PC gaming then the upfront cost and effort is not that huge a barrier. If you are not inclined to PC Gaming then a console is a lot cheaper and easier to buy.

I don't see why people think that everyone else should think the same way as they do. There are two different, but related markets.

SUD123456

[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

[QUOTE="Heil68"] I know plenty of people who haven't got a HDTV yet, including my brother, what about them?ferret-gamer

I'd say "why are you still living in the 90s, son?" :P

And truthfully you can go down to any thrift store and pick up a CRT monitor for $5, and you have a monitor that already displays stuff at a higher res than consoles.

Yes, but that isdefeating the purpose of buying a new PC. I COULD get an early 90s monitor for $1 to go with my new $5000 PC, and say "oh well this works", but when buying PC of that caliber (a GAMING PC, which is also what TC's build is), the buyer knows that he has a PC capable of 1080p res in games, but needs a new monitor to go with it.

Saying "oh well I could use this 20 year old monitor for my new PC" is stupid because it makes no sense when the purpose is to build a gaming rig.

[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

Not bad. But that's not including a good 1920x1080/1200 monitor. That'll cost you another 200 at least.

Arach666

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

I'd say "why are you still living in the 90s, son?" :P

BigBoss154

And truthfully you can go down to any thrift store and pick up a CRT monitor for $5, and you have a monitor that already displays stuff at a higher res than consoles.

Yes, but that isdefeating the purpose of buying a new PC. I COULD get an early 90s monitor for $1 to go with my new $5000 PC, and say "oh well this works", but when buying PC of that caliber (a GAMING PC, which is also what TC's build is), the buyer knows that he has a PC capable of 1080p res in games, but needs a new monitor to go with it.

Saying "oh well I could use this 20 year old monitor for my new PC" is stupid because it makes no sense when the purpose is to build a gaming rig.

CRTs > LCDs in every important area for gaming and you can find CRTs for incredibly cheap.

[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] But just goes to show that you can't just say you have to add the price of a monitor to a PC but not a TV to a console, because not everyone has a HDTV, just like not everyone has an HD monitor.

And truthfully you can go down to any thrift store and pick up a CRT monitor for $5, and you have a monitor that already displays stuff at a higher res than consoles.

ChubbyGuy40

Yes, but that isdefeating the purpose of buying a new PC. I COULD get an early 90s monitor for $1 to go with my new $5000 PC, and say "oh well this works", but when buying PC of that caliber (a GAMING PC, which is also what TC's build is), the buyer knows that he has a PC capable of 1080p res in games, but needs a new monitor to go with it.

Saying "oh well I could use this 20 year old monitor for my new PC" is stupid because it makes no sense when the purpose is to build a gaming rig.

CRTs > LCDs in every important area for gaming and you can find CRTs for incredibly cheap.

[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] But just goes to show that you can't just say you have to add the price of a monitor to a PC but not a TV to a console, because not everyone has a HDTV, just like not everyone has an HD monitor.

And truthfully you can go down to any thrift store and pick up a CRT monitor for $5, and you have a monitor that already displays stuff at a higher res than consoles.

ChubbyGuy40

Yes, but that isdefeating the purpose of buying a new PC. I COULD get an early 90s monitor for $1 to go with my new $5000 PC, and say "oh well this works", but when buying PC of that caliber (a GAMING PC, which is also what TC's build is), the buyer knows that he has a PC capable of 1080p res in games, but needs a new monitor to go with it.

Saying "oh well I could use this 20 year old monitor for my new PC" is stupid because it makes no sense when the purpose is to build a gaming rig.

CRTs > LCDs in every important area for gaming and you can find CRTs for incredibly cheap.

If you love staring at an 800x600, blurry interlaced screen then sure.

LCDs/Plasmas these days are very good and we've got to the point where the differences in input lag and viewing angles (IPS screens, at least) are not noticable, and have made CRTs completely obsolete.

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

Yes, but that isdefeating the purpose of buying a new PC. I COULD get an early 90s monitor for $1 to go with my new $5000 PC, and say "oh well this works", but when buying PC of that caliber (a GAMING PC, which is also what TC's build is), the buyer knows that he has a PC capable of 1080p res in games, but needs a new monitor to go with it.

Saying "oh well I could use this 20 year old monitor for my new PC" is stupid because it makes no sense when the purpose is to build a gaming rig.

Iantheone

CRTs > LCDs in every important area for gaming and you can find CRTs for incredibly cheap.

That's because CRTs are too disgusting in picture quality to see all the details. That's nothing to be proud of. :P

If you love staring at an 800x600, blurry interlaced screen then sure.

LCDs/Plasmas these days are very good and we've got to the point where the differences in input lag and viewing angles (IPS screens, at least) are not noticable, and have made CRTs completely obsolete.

BigBoss154

If you love staring at an 800x600, blurry interlaced screen then sure.

LCDs/Plasmas these days are very good and we've got to the point where the differences in input lag and viewing angles (IPS screens, at least) are not noticable, and have made CRTs completely obsolete.

BigBoss154

Except they go much higher than that, have no input lag, no ghosting, no problems that LCDs inherient have. They also support progressive scan.

Oh yes they are. The only thing that killed CRTs are their size and weight. It still smashes LCD in PQ while plasma and OLED are still catching up.

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

so 667 is less than 200-300 now?

Grawse

[QUOTE="Arach666"]

[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

Not bad. But that's not including a good 1920x1080/1200 monitor. That'll cost you another 200 at least.

Grawse

I lol'd. The bottom line is that buying a good PC is a lot cheaper than most think, and then if you are smart about your purchases and such, it is much cheaper for buying games, playing online, controllers, and so on, than consoles. PC's dont force you to buy a certain brand and size of harddrive, wifi adapters and so on. Not to mention if you are smart, the computer wont break like many consoles do.

[QUOTE="Iantheone"][QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

CRTs > LCDs in every important area for gaming and you can find CRTs for incredibly cheap.

BigBoss154

That's because CRTs are too disgusting in picture quality to see all the details. That's nothing to be proud of. :P

Good enough for me. Still plays games at higher resolutions than consoles :P

Why would they use a 6790@150$, you can get a 5850 for that, and it's better, how dumb. Also, if building a pc, you can salvage bits, that thing costs, 540~ salvaging the os and optical drive, and maybe even 480~ if you salvage the hdd as well.Inconsistancy

You can get Windows 7 for $80 right now from newegg too. But that pc is actually good. That gpu is very good, will max almost all games you throw at it. I don't really like the cpu/mobo, but I would rather just spend more money.

All those things you guys just mentioned are now useless regarding modern plasmas. We have gotten to the point where the differences between CRTs and non-CRTs are now unnoticeable to the human eye, and the advantage that CRTs once had is now just a statistical formality rather than real world differences.

We've seen Blacks as deep as CRTs for well over 3 years now with the release of the Kuro's, and "vibrant colours" are present in pretty much any good TV these days.

so 667 is less than 200-300 now?

Chris_Williams

Uh....where in the world did say it was? It still doesn't change the fact that this PC will do 1080P in all games, which the Xbox 360/PS3 can't lay claim to. For more money you get MORE performance and a BETTER product.