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SNES vs Sega Genesis/Mega Drive [poll added]
| SNES | 52% [70] |
| Genesis | 48% [64] |
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- Feb 11, 2012 10:20 am GMTValknut4 wrote:
Type Super Nintendo into google, see how many search results you get.
Now do the same for Sega Genisis.
There you go, google isnt just english sites, thats pretty worldwide. There is nothing else I can do...
you do know that the sega genesis was called mega drive in the rest of the world right?
and really google search results? now I know you're trolling
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[QUOTE="Valknut4"]
Type Super Nintendo into google, see how many search results you get.
Now do the same for Sega Genisis.
There you go, google isnt just english sites, thats pretty worldwide. There is nothing else I can do...
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:lol:
you do know that the sega genesis was called mega drive in the rest of the world right?
and really google search results? now I know you're trolling
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- Feb 11, 2012 10:21 am GMT
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[QUOTE="Heirren"]
[QUOTE="rilpas"]
[QUOTE="Heirren"]
It is still very telling. Europe doesn't have access to youtube, or a similar type of site?
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it does, though as I stated before, each european country has it's own youtube and I'm not entirely certain just how popular speedruns are outside the US and Japan
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But what does that say about each respected system?
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that one was popular in the US and Japan and the other was popular in Europe and south America
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- Feb 11, 2012 10:30 am GMTValknut4 wrote:
Type Super Nintendo into google, see how many search results you get.
Now do the same for Sega Genisis.
There you go, google isnt just english sites, thats pretty worldwide. There is nothing else I can do...
lol you seem stuck in america's ass way too far, you doin't even know that outsisde of usa and canada nobody knows what a sega genesis is
Edited on Feb 11, 2012 10:31 am GMT[QUOTE="Valknut4"]
Type Super Nintendo into google, see how many search results you get.
Now do the same for Sega Genisis.
There you go, google isnt just english sites, thats pretty worldwide. There is nothing else I can do...
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lol you seem stuck in america's ass way too far, you doin't even know that outsisde of usa and canada nobody knows what a sega genesis is
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- Feb 11, 2012 10:42 am GMT
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[QUOTE="bultje112"]
[QUOTE="Valknut4"]
Type Super Nintendo into google, see how many search results you get.
Now do the same for Sega Genisis.
There you go, google isnt just english sites, thats pretty worldwide. There is nothing else I can do...
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lol you seem stuck in america's ass way too far, you doin't even know that outsisde of usa and canada nobody knows what a sega genesis is
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and in the end, all he's doing is arguing popularity
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- Feb 11, 2012 10:47 am GMTAndross's enemy...is my enemy
[QUOTE="rilpas"]
[QUOTE="bultje112"]
[QUOTE="Valknut4"]
Type Super Nintendo into google, see how many search results you get.
Now do the same for Sega Genisis.
There you go, google isnt just english sites, thats pretty worldwide. There is nothing else I can do...
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lol you seem stuck in america's ass way too far, you doin't even know that outsisde of usa and canada nobody knows what a sega genesis is
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and in the end, all he's doing is arguing popularity
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Partially, perhaps, but also that people are still actively playing the games. Perhaps people have tired of sega games, or left them in their youth, who knows.
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- Feb 11, 2012 10:50 am GMT
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[QUOTE="Heirren"]
[QUOTE="rilpas"]
[QUOTE="bultje112"]
lol you seem stuck in america's ass way too far, you doin't even know that outsisde of usa and canada nobody knows what a sega genesis is
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and in the end, all he's doing is arguing popularity
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Partially, perhaps, but also that people are still actively playing the games. Perhaps people have tired of sega games, or left them in their youth, who knows.
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feel free to provide evidence for that
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- Feb 11, 2012 10:55 am GMTAndross's enemy...is my enemy
[QUOTE="rilpas"]
[QUOTE="Heirren"]
[QUOTE="rilpas"]
and in the end, all he's doing is arguing popularity
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Partially, perhaps, but also that people are still actively playing the games. Perhaps people have tired of sega games, or left them in their youth, who knows.
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feel free to provide evidence for that
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Are you being serious? The speed runs. The games still have big followings.
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- Feb 11, 2012 10:58 am GMTHeirren wrote:rilpas wrote:Heirren wrote:
Partially, perhaps, but also that people are still actively playing the games. Perhaps people have tired of sega games, or left them in their youth, who knows.
feel free to provide evidence for that
Are you being serious? The speed runs. The games still have big followings.
so you're saying that aren't genesis speed runs?
Valknut's logic was that the SNES was better because his website had 166 SNES speed runs and 130 genesis speedruns
yes, massive difference there
yep, no speed runs at all
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[QUOTE="Heirren"]
[QUOTE="rilpas"]
[QUOTE="Heirren"]
Partially, perhaps, but also that people are still actively playing the games. Perhaps people have tired of sega games, or left them in their youth, who knows.
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feel free to provide evidence for that
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Are you being serious? The speed runs. The games still have big followings.
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so you're saying that aren't genesis speed runs?
Valknut's logic was that the SNES was better because his website had 166 SNES speed runs and 130 genesis speedruns
yes, massive difference there :roll:
yep, [url=http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=sega+genesis+speed+run&oq=sega+genesis+speed+run&aq=f&aqi=g1g-m1&aql=&gs_sm=3&gs_upl=1333212l1336435l0l1336654l23l19l0l4l4l0l217l2236l2.11.2l15l0]no speed runs at all[/url]
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- Feb 11, 2012 11:35 am GMTrilpas wrote:Heirren wrote:rilpas wrote:
feel free to provide evidence for that
Are you being serious? The speed runs. The games still have big followings.
so you're saying that aren't genesis speed runs?
Valknut's logic was that the SNES was better because his website had 166 SNES speed runs and 130 genesis speedruns
yes, massive difference there
yep, no speed runs at all
166 is more than 130. Okay I'll admit that isn't a huge difference. He gave the impression it was much greater!
Even still...FOUR controller ports? Stock six button gamepad?
Andross's enemy...is my enemy[QUOTE="rilpas"]
[QUOTE="Heirren"]
[QUOTE="rilpas"]
feel free to provide evidence for that
[/QUOTE]
Are you being serious? The speed runs. The games still have big followings.
[/QUOTE]
so you're saying that aren't genesis speed runs?
Valknut's logic was that the SNES was better because his website had 166 SNES speed runs and 130 genesis speedruns
yes, massive difference there :roll:
yep, [url=http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=sega+genesis+speed+run&oq=sega+genesis+speed+run&aq=f&aqi=g1g-m1&aql=&gs_sm=3&gs_upl=1333212l1336435l0l1336654l23l19l0l4l4l0l217l2236l2.11.2l15l0]no speed runs at all[/url]
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166 is more than 130. Okay I'll admit that isn't a huge difference. He gave the impression it was much greater!:)
Even still...FOUR controller ports? Stock six button gamepad? :D
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- Feb 11, 2012 3:33 pm GMTHeirren wrote:rilpas wrote:Heirren wrote:
Are you being serious? The speed runs. The games still have big followings.
so you're saying that aren't genesis speed runs?
Valknut's logic was that the SNES was better because his website had 166 SNES speed runs and 130 genesis speedruns
yes, massive difference there
yep, no speed runs at all
166 is more than 130. Okay I'll admit that isn't a huge difference. He gave the impression it was much greater!
Even still...FOUR controller ports? Stock six button gamepad?
mmm? what's this about controller ports, I'm lost now :S
as for the number, yes, it is more, then again that could be due to personal preference, then anything else
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[QUOTE="Heirren"]
[QUOTE="rilpas"]
[QUOTE="Heirren"]
Are you being serious? The speed runs. The games still have big followings.
[/QUOTE]
so you're saying that aren't genesis speed runs?
Valknut's logic was that the SNES was better because his website had 166 SNES speed runs and 130 genesis speedruns
yes, massive difference there :roll:
yep, [url=http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=sega+genesis+speed+run&oq=sega+genesis+speed+run&aq=f&aqi=g1g-m1&aql=&gs_sm=3&gs_upl=1333212l1336435l0l1336654l23l19l0l4l4l0l217l2236l2.11.2l15l0]no speed runs at all[/url]
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166 is more than 130. Okay I'll admit that isn't a huge difference. He gave the impression it was much greater!:)
Even still...FOUR controller ports? Stock six button gamepad? :D
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mmm? what's this about controller ports, I'm lost now :S
as for the number, yes, it is more, then again that could be due to personal preference, then anything else
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- Feb 11, 2012 8:21 pm GMT
I feel sorry for anyone argueing with a guy whose name has the word "nut," in it. His argument was completely fallacious. Look the Genesis has a more speed, it was made to play arcade-like games. I think the Genesis attracted far more creative developers, games like MUSHA, Earthworm Jim, and Toejam & Earl were all on the Genesis. Yes Earthwrom Jim was ported the SNES, which I tried, and it was fail. One thing I notice is the Genesis had a more mature sound to its game, or lower tone, the Super Nintendo was more childish in its sound board.
By this "nut's" opinions, sheep are stronger animals than lions because there are more sheep. WELL I HAVE NEWS FOR YOU!!!! The Sega Genesis is the lion, and the Super Nintendo is the sheep. All Nintendo had to do is just release another console and there would be a nice bandwagon following. The Sega Genesis did not have a herd already pasturised, etc. They had to go from the mild popular Master system, though argueably because the Nes was definately better than that Master System.
Btw, I had both systems, but I ultimately am more attracted to the Genesis games after playing both systems extensively, it did not stop me from liking one over the other. You can not have two masters.
I played and beat many Snes games, they were awesome, its just I always feel after beating a Super Nintendo game, that I really felt no need to play it any more. I actually think making the games longer actual had that effect, Genesis games were short and sweet, like arcade games always were. Edited on Feb 11, 2012 8:30 pm GMTI feel sorry for anyone argueing with a guy whose name has the word "nut," in it. His argument was completely fallacious. Look the Genesis has a more speed, it was made to play arcade-like games. I think the Genesis attracted far more creative developers, games like MUSHA, Earthworm Jim, and Toejam & Earl were all on the Genesis. Yes Earthwrom Jim was ported the SNES, which I tried, and it was fail. One thing I notice is the Genesis had a more mature sound to its game, or lower tone, the Super Nintendo was more childish in its sound board.
By this "nut's" opinions, sheep are stronger animals than lions because there are more sheep. WELL I HAVE NEWS FOR YOU!!!! The Sega Genesis is the lion, and the Super Nintendo is the sheep. All Nintendo had to do is just release another console and there would be a nice bandwagon following. The Sega Genesis did not have a herd already pasturised, etc. They had to go from the mild popular Master system, though argueably because the Nes was definately better than that Master System.
Btw, I had both systems, but I ultimately am more attracted to the Genesis games after playing both systems extensively, it did not stop me from liking one over the other. You can not have two masters.:P I played and beat many Snes games, they were awesome, its just I always feel after beating a Super Nintendo game, that I really felt no need to play it any more. I actually think making the games longer actual had that effect, Genesis games were short and sweet, like arcade games always were.
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- Feb 11, 2012 8:29 pm GMT
[QUOTE="mahlasor"]
I feel sorry for anyone argueing with a guy whose name has the word "nut," in it. His argument was completely fallacious. Look the Genesis has a more speed, it was made to play arcade-like games. I think the Genesis attracted far more creative developers, games like MUSHA, Earthworm Jim, and Toejam & Earl were all on the Genesis. Yes Earthwrom Jim was ported the SNES, which I tried, and it was fail. One thing I notice is the Genesis had a more mature sound to its game, or lower tone, the Super Nintendo was more childish in its sound board.
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The Genesis doesn't actually have "more speed". The whole idea of the "Blast Processing" (which I'm assuming is why you think the Genesis has more speed) was nothng more than a marketing word. There's no such thing as Blast Processing. Also the sound board for the SNES is actually superior to the Genesis' soundboard. I can see someone preferring the sound on a Genesis, though. I didn't. There are exceptions, but a lot of games sounded very similar sounding on the Genesis, IMO. And I have to ask, how is Earthworm Jim on the SNES a fail? You don't like sharper graphics?
However I can agree that the Genesis did seem to attract more creative game developers. I remember the early Electronic Arts games, in particular, standing out with creative outings like Jungle Strike and Road Rash, as well as many of Sega's own first-party titles.
Personally, I think it's worth owning both systems. The SNES and the Genesis are 2 of the greatest and most reliable consoles ever made. They're also cheap and easy to find and collect for.
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- Feb 11, 2012 8:33 pm GMT
Actually the Genesis had a faster processor, that is why sport games played smoother on the Genesis. The Super Nintendo technically had superior sound (it did), but the way it was applied was more children oriented. My point is the Genesis had a more adult tone, play TMNT on both consoles and you will see what I mean. I bouht Earthworm Jim on the SNES and it felt sluggish, I payed more for the SNES game, I immediately wanted to go back to the Genesis. At that point, I understood why Earthworm Jim was crappy on a SNES emulator. Yes they are both worth owning, I should know, I did. Though in the end you will end up liking one more, and in my life of having tons of games, and someone wanting my games, I will get rid of the one that I feel I already got my fair share of gaming on. I even replaced the SNES batteries with games like Donkey Kong, Super Mario World, Super Punchout, and the Mario All Stars.
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- Feb 11, 2012 8:33 pm GMTAndross's enemy...is my enemy
/\ Earthworm Jim is better on Genesis/\
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- Feb 11, 2012 8:39 pm GMT
^Thank you. The part that sucks about comparing these two is they were not really on equal footing, I feel the developers as a whole did not really push the Genesis until it was starting to die. Think about Vectorman. The Genesis kind of died. Five year console generation >_>. By the time developers learned to maximize the system potential, there was something else coming (32X).
edit: Why the hell am I putting so much thought into this. XD Oh well, I am bored perhaps.
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- Feb 11, 2012 8:43 pm GMTAndross's enemy...is my enemy
[QUOTE="mahlasor"]
^Thank you. The part that sucks about comparing these two is they were not really on equal footing, I feel the developers as a whole did not really push the Genesis until it was starting to die. Think about Vectorman. The Genesis kind of died. Five year console generation >_>. By the time developers learned to maximize the system potential, there was something else coming (32X).
edit: Why the hell am I putting so much thought into this. XD Oh well, I am bored perhaps.
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The most advanced snes games demolish the genesis though. All the Disney games were also better on the genesis.
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- Feb 11, 2012 9:36 pm GMT
[QUOTE="mahlasor"]
Actually the Genesis had a faster processor, that is why sport games played smoother on the Genesis. The Super Nintendo technically had superior sound (it did), but the way it was applied was more children oriented. My point is the Genesis had a more adult tone, play TMNT on both consoles and you will see what I mean. I bouht Earthworm Jim on the SNES and it felt sluggish, I payed more for the SNES game, I immediately wanted to go back to the Genesis. At that point, I understood why Earthworm Jim was crappy on a SNES emulator. Yes they are both worth owning, I should know, I did. Though in the end you will end up liking one more, and in my life of having tons of games, and someone wanting my games, I will get rid of the one that I feel I already got my fair share of gaming on. I even replaced the SNES batteries with games like Donkey Kong, Super Mario World, Super Punchout, and the Mario All Stars.
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The Genesis had a faster CPU by a moderate amount, and the SNES had quite a bit better video processor. Of course SNES games just ended up looking better anyway you look at it, so it doesn't really matter.
As for the child oriented tone, I don't see it at all. More then anything, it's just a popular misconception.
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- Feb 12, 2012 3:19 am GMT-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Retrospective Perspective
Retrospective PerspectiveGrowing up, I traded these systems back and forth trying to keep up with the new titles that would come out. Now (and also being a collector), I have to say there's no doubt in my mind: SNES. Both systems are amazing, but SNES just tapped the right buttons in my head for outstanding platforming, side-scroller games.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Feb 12, 2012 3:36 am GMTmahlasor wrote:
I feel sorry for anyone argueing with a guy whose name has the word "nut," in it. His argument was completely fallacious. Look the Genesis has a more speed, it was made to play arcade-like games. I think the Genesis attracted far more creative developers, games like MUSHA, Earthworm Jim, and Toejam & Earl were all on the Genesis. Yes Earthwrom Jim was ported the SNES, which I tried, and it was fail. One thing I notice is the Genesis had a more mature sound to its game, or lower tone, the Super Nintendo was more childish in its sound board.
SNES sound chip was more "childish" ? Now I have heard everything
SNES had easily better graphics than MD/Genesis because it had a larger color palette and hardware support for scaling/rotation effects (i.e. "Mode 7") as well as a more advanced sound chip. The only thing the MD had over it was a faster main processor but that could be compensated with add-on chips on the SNES (such as DSP, SA-1, Super FX, ect.). As far as arcade games go - the TG-16 ports of Afterburner, OutRun and Space Harrier are actually better than the MD ones altho it's a little older system and generally seen as less capable. And I'm pretty sure SNES got it's fair share of "creative" games as well.
[QUOTE="mahlasor"]
I feel sorry for anyone argueing with a guy whose name has the word "nut," in it. His argument was completely fallacious. Look the Genesis has a more speed, it was made to play arcade-like games. I think the Genesis attracted far more creative developers, games like MUSHA, Earthworm Jim, and Toejam & Earl were all on the Genesis. Yes Earthwrom Jim was ported the SNES, which I tried, and it was fail. One thing I notice is the Genesis had a more mature sound to its game, or lower tone, the Super Nintendo was more childish in its sound board.
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SNES sound chip was more "childish" ? Now I have heard everything :lol:
SNES had easily better graphics than MD/Genesis because it had a larger color palette and hardware support for scaling/rotation effects (i.e. "Mode 7") as well as a more advanced sound chip. The only thing the MD had over it was a faster main processor but that could be compensated with add-on chips on the SNES (such as DSP, SA-1, Super FX, ect.). As far as arcade games go - the TG-16 ports of Afterburner, OutRun and Space Harrier are actually better than the MD ones altho it's a little older system and generally seen as less capable. And I'm pretty sure SNES got it's fair share of "creative" games as well.
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- Feb 12, 2012 5:12 am GMTreally? I always liked the SNES version better, better graphics and soundHeirren wrote:
/\ Earthworm Jim is better on Genesis/\
and the thing about the snes sound chip being more childish...lol wut?
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[QUOTE="Heirren"]
/\ Earthworm Jim is better on Genesis/\
[/QUOTE] really? I always liked the SNES version better, better graphics and sound :P
and the thing about the snes sound chip being more childish...lol wut?
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