Command and Conquer 4 Gamespot Review (7.0) AE

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#1 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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:cry:

7.0 (AE)

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/commandandconquer4/review.html

"this isn't the Command & Conquer you remember, though that isn't to say it isn't good. In fact, online play is rather fun when two equally matched teams are going at it, warring over those all-important towers and nabbing Tiberium crystals. It's a good-looking, nice-sounding game with the thick and colorful C&C attitude you hoped to see. Yet the limited focus and flabby campaign make Tiberian Twilight a disappointment nonetheless. This is a good game, but such a renowned and beloved character as Kane should have received a more explosive goodbye."

C&C3 and Kane's Wrath were fantastic, what happened EA?

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WHY, EA, WHY!!!

Oh Well. *Goes back to play DOWII*

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#3 Cherokee_Jack
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Our threads were made in the same minute. :o TIME PARADOX

Ah well, I'll delete mine. Yours has a pretty picture.

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#4 carlisledavid79
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Still a good game
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PC gaming isnt doing so well lately.

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That series has been garbage for quite a while now. This wasn't surprising the least bit.
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#7 Arach666
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After playing the beta,this was to be expected.
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:cry:

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Sucks, I wished they would have focused on the campaign and let kane go out with a bang :( ! Still getting it though.

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Shame, they tried something risky and it didn't work out.

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#11 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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After playing the beta,this was to be expected.Arach666
The multiplayer, maybe. Kevin said the multiplayer is good, it's the fact that the campaign was ultra disappointing. :(
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#12 I_AM_MEGATRON
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7.0 means "good" but here in SW anything below 9.0 is considered bad.
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#13 WilliamRLBaker
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:cry:

NVIDIATI

yep pretty much EA killed westwood long ago C&C hasn't been good in a long time, Generals blew C&C was only good before that.

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#14 chaplainDMK
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Yeah i suspected as much with the lack of coverage it had...

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#15 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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7.0 means "good" but here in SW anything below 9.0 is considered bad. I_AM_MEGATRON
The franchise goes from this to a 7.0; how can this be anything but bad? This is Fear 2 all over again.
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#16 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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yep pretty much EA killed westwood long ago C&C hasn't been good in a long time, Generals blew C&C was only good before that.

WilliamRLBaker

Objection! C&C3 and Kane's Wrath were both very good.

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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]yep pretty much EA killed westwood long ago C&C hasn't been good in a long time, Generals blew C&C was only good before that.

Stevo_the_gamer

Objection! C&C3 and Kane's Wrath were both very good.

http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=3747388

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#18 NVIDIATI
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7.0 means "good" but here in SW anything below 9.0 is considered bad. I_AM_MEGATRON
After playing the beta this game shouldn't have even got a 7.0 its not even C&C anymore its actually crap.

Command & Conquer Boxshot9.3

Command & Conquer Red Alert Boxshot9.5

Command & Conquer: Tiberian Sun Boxshot7.9

Command & Conquer Red Alert 2 Boxshot8.5

Command & Conquer: Generals Boxshot8.9

Command & Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars Boxshot9.0

Command & Conquer: Red Alert 3 Boxshot8.0

Not once has any of the main C&C titles scored aslow as a 7.0

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#19 I_AM_MEGATRON
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[QUOTE="I_AM_MEGATRON"]7.0 means "good" but here in SW anything below 9.0 is considered bad. Stevo_the_gamer
The franchise goes from this to a 7.0; how can this be anything but bad? This is Fear 2 all over again.

are u serious? standards have changed. play C&C1 now and u would rate it 9.0? lmao. 7.0 means that is still a good game and not a bad one.
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are u serious? standards have changed. play C&C1 now and u would rate it 9.0? lmao. 7.0 means that is still a good game and not a bad one. I_AM_MEGATRON
C&C still holds it weight with it's expansive, engrossing, and wonderfully challenging campaign. I would most definitely still hold to its AAA score. Sure, the visuals are outdated to the max, but the core of the game itself still retains the greatness that made it amazing in 1995. EA dropped the ball regardless on this one. It has below A rating on Gamerankings -- that's unheard of for a main iteration in the C&C universe.
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C&C3 and Kane's Wrath were fantastic, what happened EA?

Stevo_the_gamer


They reverted to their Activision-styIe sequelism.

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#22 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]C&C3 and Kane's Wrath were fantastic, what happened EA?

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They reverted to their Activision-styIe sequelism.

:cry: It seems that may be so.

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#23 Arach666
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[QUOTE="Arach666"]After playing the beta,this was to be expected.Stevo_the_gamer
The multiplayer, maybe. Kevin said the multiplayer is good, it's the fact that the campaign was ultra disappointing. :(

I think the question is: Why in the world would they want to drastically change the formula of a very sucessfull franchise like C&C?

Why not improve on C&C 3? I understand that they wanted to give the series a new direction,but as drastically as this?

I feel that this is not a fitting end for Kane´s story(as KvO stated as well).

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#24 Gamingcucumber
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Oh man, they gave Red Alert 3 higher than that, and I thought it was a garbage sequel, so it's safe to say I won't be buying this one. And props to EA for destroying one of the industry's biggest franchise. A RTS powerhouse which Westwood created, now dead and buried.
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#25 ManicAce
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Can't say I'm surprised after the beta, I was holding some hope for the sp though but it appears it's even worse.
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#26 mr-krinkles
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I'm not a big RTS guy but I loved the original Red Alert and its expansion pack 'Aftermath'. Playing through Red Alert's campaigns is one of my most cherished gaming memories - the videos were so cool and the guy who played Stalin did a great job. The chicks were hot, too, and it was all very tongue-in-cheek with great quality. Of course, the gameplay owned as well. A friend of mine actually had a LAN set-up at his place and we'd go over there and play Red Alert multiplayer. Good times were had.

I have Red Alert 2 but never bothered playing it properly. Also have Generals which was a very forgettable game... maybe I'll try it out again since the specs won't be a problem anymore. I've always liked the Red Alert games more than the C&C games. Even though I don't care much for these games anymore, Red Alert does always seem to call at me a little to play it. I had no idea there was a third one hahaha.

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#27 RyuRanVII
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I'm not surprised, because EA noobiefied the game by changing it's gameplay completally. At least Warhammer 40.000: Chaos Rising was a great surprise, as well Napoleon: Total War released last month.

And people still complains about the lack of real changes in Starcraft II. Blizzard made the right decision to keep the core gameplay intact. :D

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#28 shakmaster13
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Am I the only one who liked the beta? Except for the whole unlocking units thing?

I'm still gonna buy this game. It's apparently still good enough to play.

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#29 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Am I the only one who liked the beta? Except for the whole unlocking units thing?

I'm still gonna buy this game. It's apparently still good enough to play.

shakmaster13
I'll be buying it too, when it hits the cheap price; a la bargain bin. No way am I going to spend full price on something that's merely a shadow of the greatness that came from C&C3. I hope you enjoy it though. :P
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#30 lawlessx
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after playing that beta im not surprised.

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#31 NVIDIATI
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[QUOTE="shakmaster13"]

Am I the only one who liked the beta? Except for the whole unlocking units thing?

I'm still gonna buy this game. It's apparently still good enough to play.

Stevo_the_gamer

I'll be buying it too, when it hits the cheap price; a la bargain bin. No way am I going to spend full price on something that's merely a shadow of the greatness that came from C&C3. I hope you enjoy it though. :P

I wont be buying this because its horrible (should be much lower than a 7.0) and I advise you don't buy it ether :x... :P

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I wont be buying this because its horrible (should be much lower than a 7.0) and I advise you don't buy it ether :x... :P

NVIDIATI

I'm a HUGE Command and Conquer fan (I own all of them except the RA3 expansion), so I have to buy it eventually just to play it. :P

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[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]I wont be buying this because its horrible (should be much lower than a 7.0) and I advise you don't buy it ether :x... :P

Stevo_the_gamer

I'm a HUGE Command and Conquer fan (I own all of them except the RA3 expansion), so I have to buy it eventually just to play it. :P

Yeah I also own everything C&C up till C&C3, and nowI refuse to buy this rubbish!!! :P I actually started playing the first C&C on a MAC, yeah I'm ashamed...

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#34 Ace6301
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Sadly after playing the beta I knew it wasn't going to do well. In fact I'm surprised it even got a 7.
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#35 IgGy621985
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I wouldn't be so harsh on EA. They tried something new, but they failed to deliver it. At least they didn't use copy-paste method like they did in "I hate EA" era.

Similar thing happened with Mirror's Edge. Great idea, but at the end many people complained how great idea turned into a pile of crap. Okay, perhaps not a pile of crap, but similar.

EA confirmed this is not the end for the Command & Conquer franchise, so I really hope there'll be more.

Generals 2 would be great. It's my favourite C&C game to date.

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Yeah I also own everything C&C up till C&C3, and nowI refuse to buy this rubbish!!! :P I actually started playing the first C&C on a MAC, yeah I'm ashamed...

NVIDIATI

I don't necessarily blame you (RA3 was also very disappointing for me), so skipping this iteration and playing C&C3 again might be the best route for me right now. And the game itself still plays and looks fantastic too so not all is lost. :P And yes, you should be ashamed. lulz

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#37 enterawesome
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Ouch... Well, Starcraft 2 exists for a reason. All you have to do is pay three times for it!
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#38 XturnalS
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If someone would've told me the C&C4 would score lower then Supcom 2 I'd would laughed in their face.

WTF happened EA LA?

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#39 tagyhag
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I KNEW IT, after reading all those changes I knew it wouldn't be a Command and Conquer game that we all know and love. :(

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#40 ThePlothole
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Ugh. This just goes to show that the current EA is a plague on the gaming world!

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#41 shakmaster13
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Ugh. This just goes to show that the current EA is a plague on the gaming world!

ThePlothole

Why? They tried something completely new in the RTS genre, and it mildly succeeded as the multiplayer got good mentions.

I really doubt the campaign was awful though. At least I hope it isn't.

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From what i saw in the Beta they were just trying to copy Relic games, but they did a shoddy job. Its just a spamfest and lacks the tactical depth of DoW II, Company of Heroes or World in Conflict.

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#43 sammyjenkis898
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This is a surprise? :?
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[QUOTE="ThePlothole"]

Ugh. This just goes to show that the current EA is a plague on the gaming world!

shakmaster13

Why? They tried something completely new in the RTS genre, and it mildly succeeded as the multiplayer got good mentions.

I really doubt the campaign was awful though. At least I hope it isn't.

But that's the thing... why is the multiplayer more polished than the campaign? Actually the same thing seems to happen in a lot of more recent sequels. And I strongly suspect it is because publishers like EA are pushing the developers to emphasize the former.

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#45 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="ThePlothole"]

But that's the thing... why is the multiplayer more polished than the campaign? Actually the same thing seems to happen in a lot of more recent sequels. And I strongly suspect it is because publishers like EA are pushing the developers to emphasize the former.

There's really no excuse for a shoddy and mediocre campaign -- not for Command and Conquer.
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#46 RadecSupreme
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I havent fully enjoyed any command and conquer game after Red Alert 2. Anyways, its sad to see the series fell down but I am having some fun on Dawn of war 2 Chaos Rising.

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#47 Arach666
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I just checked the video review comments and it seems that GS is deleting the less favourable reviews or the ones that were posted with a 1.0 score. Something strange is going on,I reckon.
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#48 nhh18
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the beta was horrible.