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#1 MustafaEl-Deeb
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I didn't upload all of the videos yet, but I've already recorded the whole run(except for Ares and the clone war)

 GoWI PAIN

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#2 MrStarkiller
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>not fully uploaded

I see.

>Ares and beyond remain

Noted.  It's a very busy weak.  If I'm at all fortunate, I'll be suddenly relieved of all the things distracting me from getting back to evaluations.  Time will tell. 

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#3 MustafaEl-Deeb
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>evaluations

Have you seen Adels' videos already?

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#4 adelrayan1990
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>Has SK seen Adel's videos yet:

 

He did! Amazingly, he evaluated everything in 2 days :). He was in a super active mode I suppose. Even till today I only had the chance to reply to a couple of his comments with a "Thank you" only :) 

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#5 MustafaEl-Deeb
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>2 days

Too much. He did my GoWIII NUR+ in one day, there was just couple of videos missing that I hadn't uploaded yet.

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#6 MrStarkiller
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>seen

Adel's been addressed for a few weeks now, I believe (my usual onslaught of comments *how I know you love it*).  Tid is next up to bat.  Then back to your GoWII run before moving on to the GoW1 run work already available.  Lucas and Bruce (Xcalizorz) can wait.  DSP is done.  But I've been over this.  Did I forget to note it here? 

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#7 Wulf2K
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When you get to his PAIN, don't be confused by my comments being there.  I started commenting and then stopped around #10 when it became clear that he was taking everything as an attack on his one thousand three hundred and thirty seven skills.

 

I did not do a thorough job.

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#8 MustafaEl-Deeb
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>everything as an attack

No, no, no. That's not the point. It's just because the whole point of saving time and not taking damage is not my concern at all(never was especially at GoWI). Also I wouldn't tke this as an attack because I'm not experiened at GoWI. I didn't do many runs nor watched many videos except for the Centaur sacrifice, the battle before Pandora's box and of couse some clone war videos. Also I've already said that I've got my ass kicked too much at GoWI(at least that makes me a survivor).

>1337 skills

Not at GoWI.

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#9 MrStarkiller
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>Deeb's PAIN

Oh, you.

>stopped commenting

You two had words about evaluations too?

>elite skills

I see.

>did not do a thorough job

Went light, did you?  Can't say I blame you.  Not like PAIN/PAIN+ are great for going all out on details given how limited they are on our options.  Nature of the beast.  Even still, tends to be lots of neat tricks for a given foe, area, mechanic, etc. 

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#10 Wulf2K
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I was disappointed that every skippable fight of worth was skipped.

 

Why do a challenge run and then bypass the challenge?

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#11 MustafaEl-Deeb
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GoWI PAIN is the easiest PAIN/PAIN+ run, but the most shitty one. Believe me, it's better to watch any other run. GoWII PAIN+ or GoWIII NUR+ would be great.

>bypass the challenge

I don't see any challenge that I've bypassed, enemies like those are met to much in the game and you'll be forced to fight them. So I'm just saving time.

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#12 Wulf2K
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Whenever I suggested things that would save you a ton of time, you said you didn't care about doing a speedrun.

 

So you're doing a challenge run with no focus on speed, but you'll bypass the challenges if it'll increase your speed?

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#13 MustafaEl-Deeb
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I didn't bypass the fights to make a to speed my run, but to save unnecessary time. I know that you'd say I refused your tips to skip some messages and ladders. I'd say that this is s***. What can I do with saving a second or two? But if I hadn't skipped the fight at the Sewers, I would have wasted 10 minutes and maybe risking a hit if I made a mistake.
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#14 Wulf2K
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If you set the difficulty to Easy you save time too, and using upgrades and magic can really speed things along.
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#15 MustafaEl-Deeb
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Do you see me skipping every fight?
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#16 Wulf2K
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No, but you'll get better at it.

 

If you try another run I can show you how to skip way more of them.

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#17 MustafaEl-Deeb
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I'm not doing a speedrun. Also your words are showing that what you said in my videos were an attack not helping.

Are you challenging me Wulf? Huh? You better not, cuz Im gonna rock you if you do.

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#18 Wulf2K
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My earlier words were not an attack.  Your response to them showed that you have no interest in improving, or even just learning.

 

You are a child with a lot to prove.  That is fine, we all mature with age.  My mistake was not recognizing this sooner.  Beat your PAIN run, check off the box, and get the credit without the knowledge that it is supposed to represent.  Don't get confused and believe that you rank high enough for anything I say to you to be considered a "challenge" though.  We've established that you're not truly ready for challenges.

 

We'll talk when you're ready, I'll still be here.

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#19 MustafaEl-Deeb
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Look Wulf. Your tips were a speedrun tips that either saved a second or saved a some time of a short easy fight. Also I don't know what does all this have to do with my age and matureness. I consider bragging about your age and talking about my age is immatureness, unless you were joking.

Back to my run, I didn't skip fights at my GoWII PAIN+ nor GoWIII NUR+ and they're far tougher than this run which you consider it very tough. You don't wanna see them because of the reason I mentioned in my GoWIII BoA PAIN+ thread.

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#20 Wulf2K
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> far tougher than this run which you consider it very tough.

I'm gonna need to see some quotes here.

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#21 MustafaEl-Deeb
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Calling it a challenge and saying that I'm not up to challenges because seeing me skipping some easy unnesecary fights means you consider this run tough. Also Shin an Taz used to skip some battles(I didn't see every video).
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#22 Wulf2K
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Shin and Taz had nothing to prove.

 

Maybe once you've proven you can do something I'll cut you some slack.

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#23 MustafaEl-Deeb
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I don't need to prove. You just saw the easiest parts of the run and you judge me without seeing thje rest of it. Also there are too many fights that can't be skipped and they're much tougher than the ones you think they determine how skillful you are. I told you, you're just lying to yourself. You have too many proves but you don't wanna see any of them.

1- Watch the rest of the run.

2- Watch GoWII PAIN+/GoWIII NUR+(you can watch GoWII NUR+ but it was done poorly)

3- Wait for later runs.

^Those what could really prove the skills of a one. Not some easy fights at an easy entry. Also I wanna say that I've got my ass kicked in GoWI due to underestimation.

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#24 Wulf2K
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You really don't get it.

And that's ok.

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#25 MustafaEl-Deeb
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Then explain what do you mean.
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#26 MrStarkiller
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Wulf: >skipped fights

A valid tactic, though not so well loved by some.  I prefer doing them (a feeling shared by the gent).  Taz and Shin tend to feel differently.

>why do it and bypass

Just another tactic.  LobosJr is questioned by SBK on the same grounds for his Dark Souls work, it would seem.

>not interested in a speedrun

Efficiency, ease, etc. are other concerns I'd have for alternative tactics (speed can help with the tedium of some encounters).

>how to skip more

Speedrun lessons, is it?

>up-and-coming youth

"Yeah, maybe so." - Perfect Cell

>had nothing to prove

Be that as it may, they also felt the need to show their upgrade menu.  They also didn't like their time wasted.  Some vets don't mind so much the slaughter of small fry.  Of course, even write-ups can reflect a disdain for trash mobs with very general summaries for repeat fights against no-counts.

Deeb: >easiest

I disagree.  CoO is.

>bypass

So which fights are we talking about?

>sewer fight

We talking the whole thing or perhaps just the bit at the end?

>challenging

Flirting, rather.

>rock you

Sounds hot.

>ageism

Been a long while since TUGOWU has been graced with this area of discussion.

>ass kicked

Speaking of this, weren't you wanting to go against the Clones after seeing Tid's run work?

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#27 MustafaEl-Deeb
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>CoO is

Not much easier.

>which fights

The ones after the two Cyclops at Athens' Square Town and the two Cyclops at the Sewers whom I just fought at Athens' Town Square.

>the whole thing

No, just as I noted before.

>after seeing Tid's run work

I didn't say that, I said that I would do it when I finish recording every entry on PAIN+. Persephone S2 may be the same.

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#28 MrStarkiller
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>not much easier

It's pretty damn easy.  Granted, the big gap is when you're able to use GoZ.

>fights after Athen's Town Square

>2x Cyclops Brutes and friends in the Sewers

Noted.

>didn't say that

Hard to remember who said what with all the busy boys at that time.

>may be the same

I see. 

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#29 Wulf2K
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> bypass

Don't forget the gorgons and minotaurs before the rope section.

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#30 MustafaEl-Deeb
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Don't forget that I fought them before Athens' Square Town. And the Minotaurs were tougher than the one your talking about.

Are you retarded or something? How many times should I tell you that all these fights are easy and you will be forced to fight them later and they'll be a stronger version than the ones at the beginning?

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#31 Wulf2K
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I was speaking to SK.

 

The interaction between you and me has concluded.

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#32 MustafaEl-Deeb
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Yeah, but that's my thread. You're my guest, I should help. Don't you think so?
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#33 MrStarkiller
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Wulf: >Gorgons and Minotaurs before rope section

Athens, is it?

Deeb: >repeated fight

I don't believe there are more Gorgon and Minotaur mixed fights after that one.

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#34 MustafaEl-Deeb
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@there are no Gorgons and Minotaurs mixed fight after that one

No, I skipped the one before entering Athens city, but I didn't skip the one before the Cyclops at Athens Square town.

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#35 MrStarkiller
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>skipped the first case

>not Road to Athens

Noted. 

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#36 MustafaEl-Deeb
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In the road of Athens there are Gorgons and tougher Minotaurs than the ones at the Gates. I just want to say to Wulf that enemies are repeated too much and they become tougher, also you'll be forced to fight them so skipping some fights at the beginning doesn't determine weather you're up to challenge runs or not.
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#38 MustafaEl-Deeb
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Oh me?!
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#40 MustafaEl-Deeb
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That mouth shows that he's not up to something good.
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#41 Wulf2K
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Or very good.
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#42 MustafaEl-Deeb
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So what's that thing?
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#43 MrStarkiller
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>tougher ones

There is also more room to abuse the camera, Archers to 360 toss, more AI boundaries, etc.

>repeated too much

Action tends to do this.

Wulf: >pictures

Hmmm, yes.  I see.  So how about some lovely porn for us to enjoy? 

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#44 MustafaEl-Deeb
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>Archer 360 toss, camera abuse, etc..

Anyway, you could simply use air OS on the Gorgons and the Minotaurs but I didn't remember that yet in my video. Why? Because this fight is just a joke so air OS didn't come to my mind.

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#45 MrStarkiller
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Deeb: >didn't remember that

I'd probably be all over that unless the Archers were being 360 tossed or the Gorgon was petrifying for you.  That's pretty typical of my evaluations.  I like seeing optimal kills.  GoW1 is overflowing with the air OS infinite stuff though.  I'd understand if one got bored with it (plenty more to do in the future).

>just a joke

Yep. 

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#46 MustafaEl-Deeb
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>one got bored with it

I think that's the reason why I didn't remember the air OS kills.

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#47 Wulf2K
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I'm fairly confident that's not the reason you didn't remember the air OS kills.
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#48 MustafaEl-Deeb
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So what the reason, wizard?
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#50 MrStarkiller
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Deeb: >that's the reason

I see.

Wulf: >aliens

And here I had it figured for jew magic again.