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#1 zerroth101
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Why is the world in Final fantasy XII called Ivalice like in Final fantasy Tactic and FFT Advance?
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#2 kinetic-core
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Simple... it's the same world!!! Well, produced by the same producer.

No, it's not the same, don't worry. Maybe Matsuno likes the name.. :?

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#3 zerroth101
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Its a good name but they could have thought of a different one.
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#4 awesome_italian
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It is the same world, different time.
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#5 Spurs_Fan
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It's in the same world...... interesting
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#6 zerroth101
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Different time? Well this very interesting.
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#7 Spurs_Fan
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The name Ivalice..... Intereresting
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#8 zerroth101
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The name Ivalice in three different games......Interesting.
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#9 Spurs_Fan
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Everything being interesting..... Interesting
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#10 kinetic-core
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everyone's saying interesting.....

interesting.

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#11 zerroth101
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FFXII..........Interesting.
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#12 kinetic-core
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as interesting as FFT..
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One thing to note is the FFTA does not take place in the same Ivalice as FFT or FFXII, now I know that seems like a stupid thing to say since all the races from FFTA are in it but they aren't in FFT, but if you look up the info, FFTA happened in a place called Ivalice, but it isn't the same world, they kept Ivalice so that it would make fans think it was the same world, and I think FFXII is using that world as it setting because it is still new to the main series, but also it is a world that you don't really get to explore in FFT, you are drawn by your linear fights, and while the many map locations are there to fight in you still don't have any free roaming you can do. I also think it was a nice easy template that alot of people still wouldn't know much about, because you don't really explore it. You get really into the story in FFT that way, nothing is really there to draw you away from it too much, and the side missions all generally tie in to the story enough to keep you in it, so putting it in Ivalice is cool with me.
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#14 kinetic-core
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Actually , i would rather put it this way.

World in FFT: FFT's Ivalice

World in FFXII: FFXII's Ivalice

They are different. In all aspects.. d-i-f-f-e-r-e-n-t.

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#15 TheOdinson
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I know this, but I was pretty sure that SquareEnix noted that they were the same world just in a different tme period. And in RPG land different time periods can more or less mean different worlds
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#16 kinetic-core
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Perhaps... FFTA's Ivalice has the same races as in FFXII's races. Maybe a different era.

FFT's Ivalice has different locations from FFXII's , so FFT's World is definitely different from FFXII's world.

See the problem of having too many worlds with the same name?! Can't they think of other creative names, rearrange the alphabets, whatever, a similar name just cause more doubts.

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#17 awesome_italian
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I'm so confused. Oh well, i just want to play the thing.
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#18 kkeelloo
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it´s just the name, but what a great name, and also remind us that grate game called FFT (in ps1)
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#19 zerroth101
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Different....Interesting.
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#20 Spurs_Fan
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This topic... Interesting
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#21 zerroth101
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Spurs_Fan?....... Interesting.
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#22 Spurs_Fan
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Spurs_Fan...... Yes very interesting
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#23 zerroth101
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Final fantasy Fans Union....... Interesting.
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#24 Spurs_Fan
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The wrod interesting.... interesting
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#25 Spurs_Fan
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The wrod interesting.... interesting
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#26 kinetic-core
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i thought this interesting stuff was stopped... now it's come back again. :?
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#27 TheOdinson
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saying intereting over and over, not really so interesting.
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#28 zerroth101
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Ivalice!...So very interesting.

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#29 TheOdinson
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Actually Ivalice is a pretty cool place, I am suprised that they have placed 3 games there, it says something about it that I dont' think most people care about. Most people just expect a different place every time, but if Square thinks this game should be there then I would say they have more vision for it than we do. I mean they have been making games since before some of you were born.
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#30 zerroth101
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Yeah they started making games about 7 years before I was born.lol.
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#31 Spurs_Fan
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Before zerroth was born......... Interesting
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#32 zerroth101
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Before I was born....... Interesting.
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The word 'born'...... Interesting
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#34 kinetic-core
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This thread has gone way off-topic.............interesting

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#35 TheOdinson
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I still don't find it any more intersting. However I think the world is cool. I don't know if any world has been so developed 3 different times to make it the same in many ways but also so different.
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#36 kinetic-core
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it's not the world that has been worked on for three different times.. it's just the name that's been worked on for three times! lol :D

But, for a world that has the same races as FFTA's world has, it'll be strange to give FFXII's world a totally different name. :wink:

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#37 Spurs_Fan
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it's not the world that has been worked on for three different times.. it's just the name that's been worked on for three times! lol :D

But, for a world that has the same races as FFTA's world has, it'll be strange to give FFXII's world a totally different name. :wink:

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Yeah... who actually cares if its the same name!

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#38 TheOdinson
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Exaclty, I mean we actually like the fact the Cid, Bahamut, and Chocobos keep coming back, what does it matter if the world happens to have the same name.
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#39 Spurs_Fan
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Yeah... Why is a Cid in nearly every FF.. Whats the point lol
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#40 TheOdinson
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Honestly I couldn't tell you. I mean I would say that it has to do with wanted to have at least something that makes the games similar, something familiar that you always know will be there to say, "Hey, we are still the same game, just alittle different."
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#41 kinetic-core
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i think a series like Final Fantasy is called a series because they have similar things, like chocobos and stuff.. :D

But, having the same world is just not creative enough.. maybe i'm asing too much. :D lol

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#42 TheOdinson
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I guess you are right to a point. But when this game changed so many things we take for granted, like every summon and the away you encounter enemies, I think tying it to something somewhat familiar is not so bad.

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trying something new..........disturbing.
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#44 TheOdinson
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I don't know, I think since FFVI really every FF has pushed the game in a new direction. I mean FFIX pushed in back toward it's roots, but even then. I think FFXI was the biggest push away, and I feel like part of the reason FFXII uses the combat system it does is as a lure to want to play FFXI. I know that sounds alittle crazy, but it is very possible. Get you used to only controlling that one person while the others do there thing.
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#45 jordina
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I don't know, I think since FFVI really every FF has pushed the game in a new direction. I mean FFIX pushed in back toward it's roots, but even then. I think FFXI was the biggest push away, and I feel like part of the reason FFXII uses the combat system it does is as a lure to want to play FFXI. I know that sounds alittle crazy, but it is very possible. Get you used to only controlling that one person while the others do there thing.TheOdinson

i would like if i didnt have to move the characters when fighting. its just such a big step.

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#46 TheOdinson
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Like I said, it may be a way to draw fans into FFXI. I have no proof yet of course, but it does seem like quite a step to take.
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#47 kinetic-core
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you can choose not to move the characters, they will move towards the enemies themselves. :)

It's indeed disturbing to have many new things in FFXII, many fans were complaining about that. lol. But, every FF is different, i mean, the battle systems keep evolving, the camera and gameplay options keep changng so as to suit the gamers, and all sorts of stuff. It isn't really bad to have something different in every FF, eventually, people will get used to it. Maybe, some new battle system is gonna come out during FFXV or FFXVI, it isn't too far off, you can tell. And people will start to miss FFXII's battle system. It's always this way, we miss the old things present in older FFs, and yet, we want new things! lol