I would want to see the union revived, but at this point in time I don't think it's feasible to do a full revival. Siberian made a good point that right now there is nothing stimulating union updates, which is ironic since we're getting more assurance of forum upgrades than ever before. The latest push with the poll on Site Enhancements & Feedback stalled out pretty quickly, which is a shame since we all know the support for union updates once existed, but those users have either become inactive on the site, or have taken apathy after so many years of waiting. But I do think that getting the union back up and running would facilitate the union update bug. The activity in the union from last year helped bring unions back into the limelight, leading to union of the week in the community blog, union activities, and whatnot. However, in direct correlation with the union's activity, union of the week has faded away, and many unions are still waiting on their promised boosts for previous activities. It's frustrating how every other month there'll be some kind of a push for union updates, but will fail to gain prolonged support. So ideally, I would like to see the union revived, but I don't see the support to get it above a state of semi-dead in the meantime. Even though I greatly doubt the thread will generate a flood of users, if there are just a few people who can make a strong commitment to get the union back on its feet, the union could still be revived. I can't pledge myself to the union, but I can pitch in here and there if others are on board.
We had a decent shot last time, but something happen to reduce new posts relatively quick until everyone stopped showing up.
It just doesn't work if the leadership doesn't commit to posting as much as, if not more than, making and updating union features.
This. This union has never been established enough to where it can solely rely on recruits and officers to keep the union running. The leader of this union needs to be present, else people will disappear like has happened frequently in the life of this union. I'm for getting this place up though, I've always enjoyed this union and it does provide some help if people were to use it correctly. . .It just doesn't work if the leadership doesn't commit to posting as much as, if not more than, making and updating union features.
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As for removing me from power...Why? What's the point of supporting and spending time on a system that administration apparently does not want to support? The same thing would probably just occur again with a new leader anyways.siberian142Where GS might not want to support it, but it is evident that many users still do. Therefore we may as well keep this place running for a place for members of different users to go to for advice and discussion etc. The union can organise events itself (e.g. Union of the Year Awards), and can act as a voice for union members. I think it is at least worth giving it a shot. I personally cannot commit to leadership however I think it would be a good idea to nominate users for the leadership position. Or alternatively users can put themselves forward as wanting to take on leadership, and who knows if we'll get anywhere but you can't know without trying.
[QUOTE="siberian142"]As for removing me from power...Why? What's the point of supporting and spending time on a system that administration apparently does not want to support? The same thing would probably just occur again with a new leader anyways.uas-2001Where GS might not want to support it, but it is evident that many users still do. Therefore we may as well keep this place running for a place for members of different users to go to for advice and discussion etc. The union can organise events itself (e.g. Union of the Year Awards), and can act as a voice for union members. I think it is at least worth giving it a shot. I personally cannot commit to leadership however I think it would be a good idea to nominate users for the leadership position. Or alternatively users can put themselves forward as wanting to take on leadership, and who knows if we'll get anywhere but you can't know without trying.The former can still be done. What events other than the union of the year awards would you suggest? This union can't really compete if GameSpot / the Rangers intends on doing the awards themselves.
[QUOTE="uas-2001"][QUOTE="siberian142"]As for removing me from power...Why? What's the point of supporting and spending time on a system that administration apparently does not want to support? The same thing would probably just occur again with a new leader anyways.siberian142Where GS might not want to support it, but it is evident that many users still do. Therefore we may as well keep this place running for a place for members of different users to go to for advice and discussion etc. The union can organise events itself (e.g. Union of the Year Awards), and can act as a voice for union members. I think it is at least worth giving it a shot. I personally cannot commit to leadership however I think it would be a good idea to nominate users for the leadership position. Or alternatively users can put themselves forward as wanting to take on leadership, and who knows if we'll get anywhere but you can't know without trying.The former can still be done. What events other than the union of the year awards would you suggest? This union can't really compete if GameSpot / the Rangers intends on doing the awards themselves.Since when do rangers/gamespot have to do things? The reason that the union awards even came back for a brief time had nothing to do with either of the two. You're relying too much on other people to get what you want accomplished rather than doing it yourself. Unions can easily create events, it's up to the users not Gamespot/rangers.
[QUOTE="julian_jr"][QUOTE="siberian142"][QUOTE="uas-2001"] Where GS might not want to support it, but it is evident that many users still do. Therefore we may as well keep this place running for a place for members of different users to go to for advice and discussion etc. The union can organise events itself (e.g. Union of the Year Awards), and can act as a voice for union members. I think it is at least worth giving it a shot. I personally cannot commit to leadership however I think it would be a good idea to nominate users for the leadership position. Or alternatively users can put themselves forward as wanting to take on leadership, and who knows if we'll get anywhere but you can't know without trying.siberian142The former can still be done. What events other than the union of the year awards would you suggest? This union can't really compete if GameSpot / the Rangers intends on doing the awards themselves.Since when do rangers/gamespot have to do things? The reason that the union awards even came back for a brief time had nothing to do with either of the two. You're relying too much on other people to get what you want accomplished rather than doing it yourself. Unions can easily create events, it's up to the users not Gamespot/rangers.When did I say I was relying on them? I'd just want to prevent overlapping between the Council and the Rangers, since they started an official one last November and an unofficial one wouldn't be as effective as an "official" one, unless if they're still hosting the awards here.
The rangers don't seem like they even notice unions. I think it would be a good idea to have our own Union of the Year awards. I remember other unions doing the same thing. If we spread awareness of the union, it could help. If you don't want to help this union get back to its former glory, you should give the leadership to uas.
When did I say I was relying on them? I'd just want to prevent overlapping between the Council and the Rangers, since they started an official one last November and an unofficial one wouldn't be as effective as an "official" one, unless if they're still hosting the awards here. siberian142It doesn't matter if it's official or unofficial. The rangers stated they'd do one and never did it. . . What would make an official one better than an unofficial one when the majority of unions don't even know about the official one? Only thing that could be offered would be a level boost for the most part. I'll take an unofficial one that people know about rather than an official one that barely anyone even knows about.
The former can still be done. What events other than the union of the year awards would you suggest? This union can't really compete if GameSpot / the Rangers intends on doing the awards themselves.Since when do rangers/gamespot have to do things? The reason that the union awards even came back for a brief time had nothing to do with either of the two. You're relying too much on other people to get what you want accomplished rather than doing it yourself. Unions can easily create events, it's up to the users not Gamespot/rangers.When did I say I was relying on them? I'd just want to prevent overlapping between the Council and the Rangers, since they started an official one last November and an unofficial one wouldn't be as effective as an "official" one, unless if they're still hosting the awards here.[QUOTE="siberian142"][QUOTE="julian_jr"][QUOTE="siberian142"][QUOTE="uas-2001"] Where GS might not want to support it, but it is evident that many users still do. Therefore we may as well keep this place running for a place for members of different users to go to for advice and discussion etc. The union can organise events itself (e.g. Union of the Year Awards), and can act as a voice for union members. I think it is at least worth giving it a shot. I personally cannot commit to leadership however I think it would be a good idea to nominate users for the leadership position. Or alternatively users can put themselves forward as wanting to take on leadership, and who knows if we'll get anywhere but you can't know without trying.GamerofMario1
The rangers don't seem like they even notice unions. I think it would be a good idea to have our own Union of the Year awards. I remember other unions doing the same thing. If we spread awareness of the union, it could help. If you don't want to help this union get back to its former glory, you should give the leadership to uas.
It is not that I do not want to help get this union back to its former glory, it is that it would feel like a wasted effort. Besides organizing events or beating a dead horse with the same topics, the council does not have any particular staying power. I understand what everyone is getting at, but this union will likely always be bordering on dead if there is not any viable news to discuss or, if hosting awards or whatever, a go between.Please Log In to post.
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