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Graphics are not that important. The actual game is what is important. I would prefer to buy a game that is really good, but has horrible graphics, to a game that the only thing it has is graphics. Graphics just make the game look nice.julian_jryea, kinda like the morrowind vs. oblivion debate
when has a console ever won because of graphics anyway? The PS2 won and it had the worst graphics, PS1 won and it had worse graphics than N64. So, it could actually mean the worst graphics determine the winner, which means, the Wii would win.hendrix29yep, true
In my opinion, i dont think the Wii can win. Even if it sells 6 billion consoles, i still think it will be the gamers second system, and his primary system will always be the PC, 360 or PS3.GazzaBI think thats still a win.
[QUOTE="GazzaB"]In my opinion, i dont think the Wii can win. Even if it sells 6 billion consoles, i still think it will be the gamers second system, and his primary system will always be the PC, 360 or PS3.lettuceman44I think thats still a win.
Aye. A wins a win, I say.
It may be the hardcore gamer's second system, but you can bet that the Wii is you average joe's first system.
No, i still think casuals wont be able to just stick with a Wii. The only people i can think of who will only stick with the Wii are the really hardcore nintendo fans.
So sure the Wii will win in sales, but how is that a win if its the majoritys second choice?Â
No, i still think casuals wont be able to just stick with a Wii. The only people i can think of who will only stick with the Wii are the really hardcore nintendo fans.
So sure the Wii will win in sales, but how is that a win if its the majoritys second choice?
GazzaB
you don't know casuals then. I know plenty of fairly casual gamers who are quite content with simply having a Wii, and then 4 games a year.Â
[QUOTE="GazzaB"]No, i still think casuals wont be able to just stick with a Wii. The only people i can think of who will only stick with the Wii are the really hardcore nintendo fans.
So sure the Wii will win in sales, but how is that a win if its the majoritys second choice?
hendrix29
you don't know casuals then. I know plenty of fairly casual gamers who are quite content with simply having a Wii, and then 4 games a year.
Why a Wii though? why not just stick with a PS2? Or is it the novelty of a moving controller wand thing? BTW, ive just confused myself, and im tired. I may not make sense.Â
um, a win is a win. And isnt supposed to be like a second choice? And isnt it supposed to target the hardcore and casual audience? And if its a second one, wouldn't that mean that a lot of people will have it? That is a win. The rules are not going to change. Wii selling the most=Win, any console selling the most= winNo, i still think casuals wont be able to just stick with a Wii. The only people i can think of who will only stick with the Wii are the really hardcore nintendo fans.
So sure the Wii will win in sales, but how is that a win if its the majoritys second choice?
GazzaB
[QUOTE="GazzaB"]um, a win is a win. And isnt supposed to be like a second choice? And isnt it supposed to target the hardcore and casual audience? And if its a second one, wouldn't that mean that a lot of people will have it? That is a win. The rules are not going to change. Wii selling the most=Win, any console selling the most= winNo, i still think casuals wont be able to just stick with a Wii. The only people i can think of who will only stick with the Wii are the really hardcore nintendo fans.
So sure the Wii will win in sales, but how is that a win if its the majoritys second choice?
lettuceman44
Yeah, i know, its just i think of the Wii as in a completely different league. Like handhelds, which are in a different league from consoles. I think of the Wii on its own. It will sell loads, but be the second choice. The real battle will be between the PS3 and 360. Maybe thats just my opinion, and only my opinion:PÂ
[QUOTE="lettuceman44"][QUOTE="GazzaB"]um, a win is a win. And isnt supposed to be like a second choice? And isnt it supposed to target the hardcore and casual audience? And if its a second one, wouldn't that mean that a lot of people will have it? That is a win. The rules are not going to change. Wii selling the most=Win, any console selling the most= winNo, i still think casuals wont be able to just stick with a Wii. The only people i can think of who will only stick with the Wii are the really hardcore nintendo fans.
So sure the Wii will win in sales, but how is that a win if its the majoritys second choice?
GazzaB
Yeah, i know, its just i think of the Wii as in a completely different league. Like handhelds, which are in a different league from consoles. I think of the Wii on its own. It will sell loads, but be the second choice. The real battle will be between the PS3 and 360. Maybe thats just my opinion, and only my opinion:P
yea, the real battle is between the ps3 and 360, cause the Wii left them in the dust;)Wii ftwÂ
[QUOTE="GazzaB"][QUOTE="lettuceman44"][QUOTE="GazzaB"]um, a win is a win. And isnt supposed to be like a second choice? And isnt it supposed to target the hardcore and casual audience? And if its a second one, wouldn't that mean that a lot of people will have it? That is a win. The rules are not going to change. Wii selling the most=Win, any console selling the most= winNo, i still think casuals wont be able to just stick with a Wii. The only people i can think of who will only stick with the Wii are the really hardcore nintendo fans.
So sure the Wii will win in sales, but how is that a win if its the majoritys second choice?
lettuceman44
Yeah, i know, its just i think of the Wii as in a completely different league. Like handhelds, which are in a different league from consoles. I think of the Wii on its own. It will sell loads, but be the second choice. The real battle will be between the PS3 and 360. Maybe thats just my opinion, and only my opinion:P
yea, the real battle is between the ps3 and 360, cause the Wii left them in the dust;)Wii ftw
Yeah, that is weird. I mean, i had the urge to buy one, and i did even though i knew rightly that there are nood good games for it yet:P (IMO), so why is everyone else buying them? And what will it be like when Brawl, Galaxy and MP3 come out? Will the world just self implode because of the demand for the damn wand waving machine.Â
Here's what I think: ACTUALLY READ IT!!!!!!!!!! lol
I have all the systems, and do not favor ANY which one, and I just a lot of enjoyment from all three.
WII: Graphics for the most part are good, but obviously the PS3 and 360 have better, but you can't blame them, just look at the Wii's **** lol. Another thing, my arms get kinda tired from using the controllers, especially when you sit and do it. So basically, this system demands that you stand for long periods of time, which is something a lot of people (including myself) can't really handle. (spine problems for me :S)
This is obviously also the funnest system, MOST of the time. I find it hard to aim in shooting games and sometimes other ones, the sensor gets flawed or something, but yeah a really fun system.
PS3: Or P$3 as some call it. This one definatally doesn't win, really. I mean, first of all. 600 - 700 dollars for THAT? Its pretty bulky too, and loud. But you have to admit, the graphics are a tie (or maybe SLIGHTLY better) than the 360. The controller is the worst, or, tied with the Wii controller really. I mean, I'm really not used to holding sticks that look like pleasure toys in my hand while playing a video game, and i mean no one has hands that HUGE to fit the whole thing. Way to expensive for what you get really. The 360 is like 300 bucks cheaper, and you get the same amount of power (actually more if you study both systems 'organs') and the same graphics. Seriously.
Ahh... the 360: This little beast is probably the winner. And no, as I stated above, I love all the systems. I know, it's loud (BUT NOT THE 360 ELITE HEHEE I love them! and I have one! mwahaha), its also freezy, (again, not the elite) but yeah... otherwise. It's an 0rg@sm in a little white box. (or black if you have the elite).
 Personally, get the Wii if you want lots of fun and little power and semi - good to great graphics.
get the PS3 if you want to spend 700 on lots of power and lots of graphics. (Just power in a box really)
Or get the 360 if you want power, money in your wallet, and lots of fun.
It's simple. Wait... get...
XBOX 360 ELITE!!!!!!!!!!
Or to sum in up: 360 Elite > 360 > Wii > PS3it depends. I'm a pc gamer so to me its, PC+Wii>360>ps3 because well, the 360 is a dumbed down pc. Many of the games are the same
Sure the Wii sold more, but not everyone can enjoy it like a simple controlled system.
Plus, Microsoft seld more 'Windows' than Apple selling Macs, and that doesnt mean Windows is better. Story told. mutatedsquirrel
[QUOTE="julian_jr"]In my opinion, the xbox 360 has the most comfortable controller. It feels as if it is molded into your hands.
hendrix29
agreed, definitley my favorite conventional game controller out there.
Yup. Thats what its superior to the PC and its shallow feeling control system imo. The one reason why if a game came out on the PC and 360, id get the 360 version.Â
Oh, man. The 360 controller is overall my favorite video game controller ever. If only they could do something about that d-pad.
I've never liked Playstation controllers. They just feel way too uncomfortable for me.
Pandamar
I have 4 360 controllers, and for two of them, the D pad works perfectly. The other two....not so much. So i guess its down to luck really. Plus, not that many games use it anyways.Â
[QUOTE="hendrix29"][QUOTE="julian_jr"]In my opinion, the xbox 360 has the most comfortable controller. It feels as if it is molded into your hands.
GazzaB
agreed, definitley my favorite conventional game controller out there.
Yup. Thats what its superior to the PC and its shallow feeling control system imo. The one reason why if a game came out on the PC and 360, id get the 360 version.
......................................................................................................pc version is always superior. shallow feeling control system? so pushing a button on a controller is so much more indepth than pushing a button on the pc......[QUOTE="GazzaB"][QUOTE="hendrix29"][QUOTE="julian_jr"]In my opinion, the xbox 360 has the most comfortable controller. It feels as if it is molded into your hands.
lettuceman44
agreed, definitley my favorite conventional game controller out there.
Yup. Thats what its superior to the PC and its shallow feeling control system imo. The one reason why if a game came out on the PC and 360, id get the 360 version.
......................................................................................................pc version is always superior. shallow feeling control system? so pushing a button on a controller is so much more indepth than pushing a button on the pc......Not necessarily. Look at RE4. Both console versions>>>PC version.
Anyway, what i mean is i would much rather use a joystick to move my character than some keys on a keyboard. I would also much rather pull a trigger to fire a gun instead on just clicking on a mouse button. You know what i mean? It all comes down to personal preference. Im sure you have your reasons for preferring to play with M/KB.Â
[QUOTE="lettuceman44"][QUOTE="GazzaB"][QUOTE="hendrix29"][QUOTE="julian_jr"]In my opinion, the xbox 360 has the most comfortable controller. It feels as if it is molded into your hands.
GazzaB
agreed, definitley my favorite conventional game controller out there.
Yup. Thats what its superior to the PC and its shallow feeling control system imo. The one reason why if a game came out on the PC and 360, id get the 360 version.
......................................................................................................pc version is always superior. shallow feeling control system? so pushing a button on a controller is so much more indepth than pushing a button on the pc......Not necessarily. Look at RE4. Both console versions>>>PC version.
Anyway, what i mean is i would much rather use a joystick to move my character than some keys on a keyboard. I would also much rather pull a trigger to fire a gun instead on just clicking on a mouse button. You know what i mean? It all comes down to personal preference. Im sure you have your reasons for preferring to play with M/KB.
oh, well I don't play RE so I never knew that. So I will say MOST of the time pc version is superior. Oh and I know its all preference, and I have nothing against controllers, I just like the KB/M better.But you know, this is system wars, and arrogance, stupidity, nonsense, fanboyism rules lolÂ
[QUOTE="GazzaB"][QUOTE="lettuceman44"][QUOTE="GazzaB"][QUOTE="hendrix29"][QUOTE="julian_jr"]In my opinion, the xbox 360 has the most comfortable controller. It feels as if it is molded into your hands.
lettuceman44
agreed, definitley my favorite conventional game controller out there.
Yup. Thats what its superior to the PC and its shallow feeling control system imo. The one reason why if a game came out on the PC and 360, id get the 360 version.
......................................................................................................pc version is always superior. shallow feeling control system? so pushing a button on a controller is so much more indepth than pushing a button on the pc......Not necessarily. Look at RE4. Both console versions>>>PC version.
Anyway, what i mean is i would much rather use a joystick to move my character than some keys on a keyboard. I would also much rather pull a trigger to fire a gun instead on just clicking on a mouse button. You know what i mean? It all comes down to personal preference. Im sure you have your reasons for preferring to play with M/KB.
oh, well I don't play RE so I never knew that. So I will say MOST of the time pc version is superior. Oh and I know its all preference, and I have nothing against controllers, I just like the KB/M better.But you know, this is system wars, and arrogance, stupidity, nonsense, fanboyism rules lol
Yeah, the same is with DMC3. The console version>>PV version. But thats only because Capcom do really lazy ports. I wouldnt be surprised if Lost Planet turned out the same.Â
And yeah. The PS3 is a stupid grill with no games that cost too much and is run by a bunch or idiots. PC gaming is already dead because the 360 destroyed it overnight. The Xbox 360 has to be the best console ever invented. And the Wii is just two gamecubes ducktaped together.Â
Alright, nene, what bugs me is that you state your opinion as fact, and there really are not many people to back you up. Unlike you, Halo has over 7 million dedicated fans, along with AMAZING reviews. Resistance can not say ANYTHING about that.hendrix29
I think he's realised he's wrong, which is why he hasnt posted here in ages:PÂ
[QUOTE="hendrix29"]Alright, nene, what bugs me is that you state your opinion as fact, and there really are not many people to back you up. Unlike you, Halo has over 7 million dedicated fans, along with AMAZING reviews. Resistance can not say ANYTHING about that.GazzaB
I think he's realised he's wrong, which is why he hasnt posted here in ages:P
lol yea. OK here is my system wars contribution.PS3 is TEH Grillz!!!!! CONFIRMED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Its teh worst thing sony could have done, and they are idiots!!THEY are Even goInG to LOSe TEH BLU RAY IN COURT!!!!!!!!!!Â
360, pfft, that piece of crap. I went through 69 of them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!69!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!TEH 3 RING OF DEATH!!!!! Its just a underpowered clone of a pc.
Wii,teh best console ever!!!motion controller is way better!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE KILLIN IN SALES!!
 PC, WE GOT CRYSIS, U CONSOLE SHEEP CANT MATCH THAT!!!!!!! our pcs are 6545654 times more powerful than ur consoles. Nothing can match our graphics(but hermits arnt as trash talking as the console sheep in system wars)
THIs iS SYSTEM WAR!!!!!!1Â
[QUOTE="GazzaB"][QUOTE="hendrix29"]Alright, nene, what bugs me is that you state your opinion as fact, and there really are not many people to back you up. Unlike you, Halo has over 7 million dedicated fans, along with AMAZING reviews. Resistance can not say ANYTHING about that.lettuceman44
I think he's realised he's wrong, which is why he hasnt posted here in ages:P
lol yea. OK here is my system wars contribution.PS3 is TEH Grillz!!!!! CONFIRMED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Its teh worst thing sony could have done, and they are idiots!!THEY are Even goInG to LOSe TEH BLU RAY IN COURT!!!!!!!!!!
360, pfft, that piece of crap. I went through 69 of them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!69!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!TEH 3 RING OF DEATH!!!!! Its just a underpowered clone of a pc.
Wii,teh best console ever!!!motion controller is way better!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE KILLIN IN SALES!!
PC, WE GOT CRYSIS, U CONSOLE SHEEP CANT MATCH THAT!!!!!!! our pcs are 6545654 times more powerful than ur consoles. Nothing can match our graphics(but hermits arnt as trash talking as the console sheep in system wars)
THIs iS SYSTEM WAR!!!!!!1
No. THIS IS SPARTA!!!Â
*Kicks Lettuceman in a hole behind him + stab all of the other PC fanboys and throw them into a hole*
Â
King Leonidas says "Noob"
OKAYÂ obviously were gunna start a fight in here, better not guys eh?
I heard crysis sucks. Wow. Graphics. (well, i heard its supposed to have bad loading and frame rate... so yeah. All it is is graphics. (im still gunna try to get it lol) but yeah the only way a PC is better is if its like total suped up on graphics cards and everything. Its lame. Sure, a console is a dumb downed PC, but at least they arent 9000 bucks.
no offense to anyone though, im not mad or anything :P Just stating my opinion
OKAY obviously were gunna start a fight in here, better not guys eh?I heard crysis sucks. Wow. Graphics. (well, i heard its supposed to have bad loading and frame rate... so yeah. All it is is graphics. (im still gunna try to get it lol) but yeah the only way a PC is better is if its like total suped up on graphics cards and everything. Its lame. Sure, a console is a dumb downed PC, but at least they arent 9000 bucks.
no offense to anyone though, im not mad or anything :P Just stating my opinion
mutatedsquirrel
I used to think Crysis would be all looks with no gameplay as well, but ive read up on it, and im very excited. It sounds awesome, although sadly my PC would emplode if it tried to run it. And i doubt they will release the game with frame rate problems. They will sort that out before its release if true. And i dont live in America, but from what ive heard, you can get a really good gaming PC for like $2000, not $9000.Â
[QUOTE="lettuceman44"][QUOTE="GazzaB"][QUOTE="hendrix29"]Alright, nene, what bugs me is that you state your opinion as fact, and there really are not many people to back you up. Unlike you, Halo has over 7 million dedicated fans, along with AMAZING reviews. Resistance can not say ANYTHING about that.GazzaB
I think he's realised he's wrong, which is why he hasnt posted here in ages:P
lol yea. OK here is my system wars contribution.PS3 is TEH Grillz!!!!! CONFIRMED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Its teh worst thing sony could have done, and they are idiots!!THEY are Even goInG to LOSe TEH BLU RAY IN COURT!!!!!!!!!!
360, pfft, that piece of crap. I went through 69 of them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!69!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!TEH 3 RING OF DEATH!!!!! Its just a underpowered clone of a pc.
Wii,teh best console ever!!!motion controller is way better!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE KILLIN IN SALES!!
PC, WE GOT CRYSIS, U CONSOLE SHEEP CANT MATCH THAT!!!!!!! our pcs are 6545654 times more powerful than ur consoles. Nothing can match our graphics(but hermits arnt as trash talking as the console sheep in system wars)
THIs iS SYSTEM WAR!!!!!!1
No. THIS IS SPARTA!!!
lol[QUOTE="mutatedsquirrel"]
OKAY obviously were gunna start a fight in here, better not guys eh?I heard crysis sucks. Wow. Graphics. (well, i heard its supposed to have bad loading and frame rate... so yeah. All it is is graphics. (im still gunna try to get it lol) but yeah the only way a PC is better is if its like total suped up on graphics cards and everything. Its lame. Sure, a console is a dumb downed PC, but at least they arent 9000 bucks.
no offense to anyone though, im not mad or anything :P Just stating my opinion
GazzaB
I used to think Crysis would be all looks with no gameplay as well, but ive read up on it, and im very excited. It sounds awesome, although sadly my PC would emplode if it tried to run it. And i doubt they will release the game with frame rate problems. They will sort that out before its release if true. And i dont live in America, but from what ive heard, you can get a really good gaming PC for like $2000, not $9000.
actually, crysis was really optimized in its alpha stage. It also ran maxed with a single core proccessor and a 7800 I think. Oh and you can actually get a pc for like $1500 thats really good and can max any thing and last you a while.Remember, pcs are not only used for gaming. I use it for many other stuff too. So yea, instead of buying a console that costs $400-$600, why not just use that money to upgrade my pc into a gaming one.Â
oh yea, is that a threat? You don't wanna mess with us hermits. Hmm lemme think here. OH yea, last time I checked we had more AAA titles, PC gaming is rising again, hmm, oh yea late 06 and 2007 was an amazing year. Medieval 2 Total War, Company of Heroes, Supreme Commander, Command and Conquer 3, Starcraft 2 was announced, Crysis is looking great, ArmA, World in Conflict looks great, Hellgate London just to name some games.*Kicks Lettuceman in a hole behind him + stab all of the other PC fanboys and throw them into a hole*
Â
King Leonidas says "Noob"
KillErmarinE15
um, did you see any videos. Crysis gameplay is looking to be like FarCry, which was an AAA game.
OKAY obviously were gunna start a fight in here, better not guys eh?I heard crysis sucks. Wow. Graphics. (well, i heard its supposed to have bad loading and frame rate... so yeah. All it is is graphics. (im still gunna try to get it lol) but yeah the only way a PC is better is if its like total suped up on graphics cards and everything. Its lame. Sure, a console is a dumb downed PC, but at least they arent 9000 bucks.
no offense to anyone though, im not mad or anything :P Just stating my opinion
mutatedsquirrel
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