Next Gen Gaming(Xbox Juan80, Wii U in crisis and PS4 outselling both)

#1351 Posted by leon2365 (13053 posts) -
we will most likely have to wait awhile before Nintendo comes out with any new console.
#1352 Posted by mitu123 (153911 posts) -
From what Mitu's been telling me, sounds like Wii U sucks. Also I hope Mitu and I can still chat, but as man to man, not man to woman couple. If he don't want to do that and wants to stay away from me though I understand.Toph_Girl250
Yes, lets chat man to man.
The Wii U has just been selling poorly, because there's not a lot of games on it yet that people want. The PS3 was like that at first too.TAMKFan
Yep, PS3 was awful, and the price tag made it worse.
ill get a wii u eventually as well.leon2365
Same here.
I do hope Nintendo can make a comeback.Toph_Girl250
They should in 2014.
#1353 Posted by leon2365 (13053 posts) -
time will go by fast, and before anyone can say anything, the next Nintendo console will be here.
#1354 Posted by mitu123 (153911 posts) -
Wii U is going to last 5+ years I bet once it gets better in 2014.
#1355 Posted by Toph_Girl250 (47675 posts) -
I sure hope the next console Nintendo creates won't be something Wii-related. But, that's probably just wishful thinking...
#1356 Posted by the-silent-hero (27639 posts) -

I sure hope the next console Nintendo creates won't be something Wii-related. But, that's probably just wishful thinking...Toph_Girl250

It'll probably have something to do with motion control, yes. :P 

#1357 Posted by leon2365 (13053 posts) -
they'll follow up the wii u with the wii 2.
#1358 Posted by mitu123 (153911 posts) -

Xbox One has a massive advantage over the PS4 when it comes to hard drive space. And I'm going for more digital purchases next gen.

You can use 3 4TB external hard drives on X1 for 12TB all at once. For the PS4 to match that, you need 12 1TB hard drives(which is costly as it would cost more) and they have to be internal only and 2.5 inch with 9.5mm, and you can only use one at a time. As right now it's not known if it won't support external hard drives for games like the PS3.

Thanks to this I probably won't buy an X1 disc. As for the PS4, I'll do my best with the 1TB I'll have until they make a 1.5 or 2TB 2.5 inch 9.5 mm internal hard drive. Heck even Wii U supports external hard drives.

#1359 Posted by Toph_Girl250 (47675 posts) -
I feel like moving on in the Last of Us again tonight, I just hope that when I play it, I wont get too scared to sleep again...
#1360 Posted by TAMKFan (32751 posts) -
Wii U is going to last 5+ years I bet once it gets better in 2014.mitu123


Yeah, who knows? It could end up selling very well in the future, like how PS3 did later on.
#1361 Posted by The_Last_Ride (72242 posts) -

From what Mitu's been telling me, sounds like Wii U sucks. Also I hope Mitu and I can still chat, but as man to man, not man to woman couple. If he don't want to do that and wants to stay away from me though I understand.Toph_Girl250

it doesn't suck, they didn't make games for it and didn't plan for that. I am getting the Wii U, but i am waiting for a price drop or good games to come out for it 

#1362 Posted by leon2365 (13053 posts) -
space is a big thing nowadays. external HDD's are also cheap.
#1363 Posted by mitu123 (153911 posts) -

[QUOTE="mitu123"]Wii U is going to last 5+ years I bet once it gets better in 2014.TAMKFan


Yeah, who knows? It could end up selling very well in the future, like how PS3 did later on.

Another gen when this happens...no wonder people wait later to buy consoles.

BTW, I got bonked as this message didn't even go through at 1st. 

#1364 Posted by leon2365 (13053 posts) -
I wait just for the price drops. no other reason really. as for the glitches, I just get the "oops" message every now and then.
#1365 Posted by mitu123 (153911 posts) -

space is a big thing nowadays. external HDD's are also cheap.leon2365
Agreed!

It's one of the reasons why I mainly want to go digital next gen to avoid the annoyance of physical flaws, and I have my reasons:

1. Space in the house, rather have the convenience after putting up with it for so many gens.

2. Don't have to worry about disc scratches.

3. All games tied to an account in case you want to download them again rather than the chance of losing a physical copy.

4. Don't have to worry about the console not reading the disc.

5. Don't need to swap discs just to play a game.

6. Don't have to worry about discs being worn out.

So all X1 games will be digital for me, and I'll have to work something out with PS4 games. As for Wii U, I could get an external hard drive for that as well.:P 

#1366 Posted by leon2365 (13053 posts) -
I still prefer the physical disc over the digital game. the only time I go digital is for PC. if Microsoft pulls of amazing sales like steam for digital copies, then by all means, I will go digital as well. until then, discs for me.
#1367 Posted by mitu123 (153911 posts) -
I still prefer the physical disc over the digital game. the only time I go digital is for PC. if Microsoft pulls of amazing sales like steam for digital copies, then by all means, I will go digital as well. until then, discs for me.leon2365
I don't need discs anymore and I'm not going through that hassle again.:P
#1368 Posted by leon2365 (13053 posts) -
like I said, if steam sales for xbox come around, then ill switch to digital as well.
#1369 Posted by The_Last_Ride (72242 posts) -
I will continue buying physical copies
#1370 Posted by mitu123 (153911 posts) -
Physical copies are dead to me. Maybe because I've been so into DD for PC.:P
#1371 Posted by the-silent-hero (27639 posts) -
It's for collection's sake lol.
#1372 Posted by TAMKFan (32751 posts) -

[QUOTE="TAMKFan"][QUOTE="mitu123"]Wii U is going to last 5+ years I bet once it gets better in 2014.mitu123



Yeah, who knows? It could end up selling very well in the future, like how PS3 did later on.

Another gen when this happens...no wonder people wait later to buy consoles.

BTW, I got bonked as this message didn't even go through at 1st. 



Well, I thought I would just get one now, because who knows how long it'll be before it gets a price drop?
#1373 Posted by mitu123 (153911 posts) -
[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="TAMKFan"][QUOTE="mitu123"]Wii U is going to last 5+ years I bet once it gets better in 2014.TAMKFan



Yeah, who knows? It could end up selling very well in the future, like how PS3 did later on.

Another gen when this happens...no wonder people wait later to buy consoles.

BTW, I got bonked as this message didn't even go through at 1st. 



Well, I thought I would just get one now, because who knows how long it'll be before it gets a price drop?

You seem to make the right call according to this as Iwata thinks price isn't the problem even though most think it is.

"The basic version should have sold a lot, but the fact of the matter is that people are buying more of the premium version. So the issue is not there," he said.

BTW Wii U is selling worse than the PS3 in it's 1st year from what I heard. 

 

 

 

 

#1374 Posted by mitu123 (153911 posts) -
It's for collection's sake lol.the-silent-hero
You collect them in the hard drive, also I'm not a collector.
#1375 Posted by leon2365 (13053 posts) -
cant sell a digital copy though. no pun intended.
#1376 Posted by mitu123 (153911 posts) -
cant sell a digital copy though. no pun intended.leon2365
TBH I rather not sell them.
#1377 Posted by leon2365 (13053 posts) -
neither would I, but digital collections aren't worth anything.
#1378 Posted by mitu123 (153911 posts) -
But I'm not a collector so it wouldn't matter to me!:o
#1379 Posted by The_Last_Ride (72242 posts) -

Physical copies are dead to me. Maybe because I've been so into DD for PC.:Pmitu123

Get off steam on to your console 

#1380 Posted by mitu123 (153911 posts) -

[QUOTE="mitu123"]Physical copies are dead to me. Maybe because I've been so into DD for PC.:PThe_Last_Ride

Get off steam on to your console 

I wish consoles had Steam, that would be amazing.O_o
#1381 Posted by The_Last_Ride (72242 posts) -
[QUOTE="The_Last_Ride"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"]Physical copies are dead to me. Maybe because I've been so into DD for PC.:Pmitu123

Get off steam on to your console 

I wish consoles had Steam, that would be amazing.O_o

Nope, i hate Steam. Not going to to use it 

#1382 Posted by mitu123 (153911 posts) -
[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="The_Last_Ride"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"]Physical copies are dead to me. Maybe because I've been so into DD for PC.:PThe_Last_Ride

Get off steam on to your console 

I wish consoles had Steam, that would be amazing.O_o

Nope, i hate Steam. Not going to to use it 

So you hate something that you haven't used yet it has more pros than cons with it when it comes to being an online service? If consoles had Steam the discounts would be insane, much better than what PSN+ offers.

It's fine that you don't use Steam if you don't want to though. 

 

#1383 Posted by leon2365 (13053 posts) -
wait for the steam box.
#1384 Posted by mitu123 (153911 posts) -
wait for the steam box.leon2365
I would if I didn't already own a powerful PC.:P
#1385 Posted by leon2365 (13053 posts) -
same here.
#1386 Posted by TAMKFan (32751 posts) -
So you hate something that you haven't used yet it has more pros than cons with it when it comes to being an online service? If consoles had Steam the discounts would be insane, much better than what PSN+ offers.

It's fine that you don't use Steam if you don't want to though.mitu123



I don't use Steam, since I don't really use my PC for gaming. But with that said, I do wonder consoles would ever have Steam or something similar.

#1387 Posted by mitu123 (153911 posts) -

A service like Steam on consoles would be a dream come true as it'll save console owners a lot of money, but since consoles are closed platforms unlike PCs it won't happen.

The day a console game you can download(new obviously) for 3 bucks about a year after release would be a dream come true.

#1388 Posted by mitu123 (153911 posts) -

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Time to get hyped everyone...the PS4 release date is all I want really, but having more announced games is still awesome of course. 

#1389 Posted by Toph_Girl250 (47675 posts) -
So I was on the verge of finishing The Last of Us, but of course just my luck that all of a sudden the game spazzes out right near the end, something seems broken on the disc in the section, will have to see if I can get it fixed.
#1390 Posted by TAMKFan (32751 posts) -

A service like Steam on consoles would be a dream come true as it'll save console owners a lot of money, but since consoles are closed platforms unlike PCs it won't happen.

The day a console game you can download(new obviously) for 3 bucks about a year after release would be a dream come true.

mitu123


Well, I did also say "or something similar".
#1391 Posted by mitu123 (153911 posts) -
[QUOTE="mitu123"]

A service like Steam on consoles would be a dream come true as it'll save console owners a lot of money, but since consoles are closed platforms unlike PCs it won't happen.

The day a console game you can download(new obviously) for 3 bucks about a year after release would be a dream come true.

TAMKFan


Well, I did also say "or something similar".

Still won't happen.
#1392 Posted by mitu123 (153911 posts) -

News from CBOAT

TRUTHFACT 1+

No live stream for real reasons. Xbone architecture is still not fully completed. The latest version of the SDK a couple of weeks ago dropped performance by 15-20% across the board. Now before you get mad at MS, this happens ALL THE TIME in console development and it will eventually be fixed, but no chance for an early October release or...

TRUTHFACT 2+

... certainly not for all 21 countries. "Localization" is absolute one hundred percent BS. Period. TRUTHFACT. An excuse nobody with common sense would consider. Look at the countries dropped. Cross reference against languages spoken, official and otherwise in said countries. I said there were yield issues two months ago and the chicks have come home to roost. Knock offs for launch titles, and SmartGlass, etc. instead of the 180's "one coherent vision". Paying the price now.

TRUTHFACT 3+

Late October launch for the PS4. Sony's SDK is ready, you can basically master it to a final release right now. Today.

TRUTHFACT +4

If you thought people were mad about Bayonetta's sequel going to Wii U, you'll be somewhat unhappy about what Microsoft is moneyhatting with Platinum. Other Japanese devs are in play too, but Kamiyatown is the only one I'm solid on. Game is NOT for North America or Europe, by the way, which makes no sense but whatever.

TRUTHFACT $5

BigPark nuked their game. It was a MOBA, but it's dead dead dead now. A whole studio focusing on TV services! All their best talent went to Black Tust or left MS entirely. Rare's still Kinect focused, no matter what else you've heard.

TRUTHFACT 6

New indie publishing policy's not set yet. Will come postlaunch.

TRUTHFACT #7: Early September Surprise

Apologies in advance. Everything I saw over the last 24 months was that there's no chance of a Kinect-less SKU. It was a solid concrete decision, firm as a beach volleyball buttocks, no matter what other changes have been going on around here.

And... weeeelllll, about that.

There's whispers of a Kinect-optional (as in, not in the box) SKU early next year. March or April. Enough smoke now that I didn't want to wait until September to say it. Launch number fallout will play its part.


IMO TRUTHFACT 3+ is the best one on there.

#1393 Posted by Noteldnep (20167 posts) -
As time has gone by with the newer consoles, I have noticed that they seem to only get better in sales as time goes by. That's obviously due to the improved selection in features and more games releasing.
#1394 Posted by mitu123 (153911 posts) -

PS4 vs. Xbox One vs. Wii U Comparison Chart

Perfect chart to compare the next gen consoles. 

#1395 Posted by The_Last_Ride (72242 posts) -

News from CBOAT

TRUTHFACT 1+

No live stream for real reasons. Xbone architecture is still not fully completed. The latest version of the SDK a couple of weeks ago dropped performance by 15-20% across the board. Now before you get mad at MS, this happens ALL THE TIME in console development and it will eventually be fixed, but no chance for an early October release or...

TRUTHFACT 2+

... certainly not for all 21 countries. "Localization" is absolute one hundred percent BS. Period. TRUTHFACT. An excuse nobody with common sense would consider. Look at the countries dropped. Cross reference against languages spoken, official and otherwise in said countries. I said there were yield issues two months ago and the chicks have come home to roost. Knock offs for launch titles, and SmartGlass, etc. instead of the 180's "one coherent vision". Paying the price now.

TRUTHFACT 3+

Late October launch for the PS4. Sony's SDK is ready, you can basically master it to a final release right now. Today.

TRUTHFACT +4

If you thought people were mad about Bayonetta's sequel going to Wii U, you'll be somewhat unhappy about what Microsoft is moneyhatting with Platinum. Other Japanese devs are in play too, but Kamiyatown is the only one I'm solid on. Game is NOT for North America or Europe, by the way, which makes no sense but whatever.

TRUTHFACT $5

BigPark nuked their game. It was a MOBA, but it's dead dead dead now. A whole studio focusing on TV services! All their best talent went to Black Tust or left MS entirely. Rare's still Kinect focused, no matter what else you've heard.

TRUTHFACT 6

New indie publishing policy's not set yet. Will come postlaunch.

TRUTHFACT #7: Early September Surprise

Apologies in advance. Everything I saw over the last 24 months was that there's no chance of a Kinect-less SKU. It was a solid concrete decision, firm as a beach volleyball buttocks, no matter what other changes have been going on around here.

And... weeeelllll, about that.

There's whispers of a Kinect-optional (as in, not in the box) SKU early next year. March or April. Enough smoke now that I didn't want to wait until September to say it. Launch number fallout will play its part.


IMO TRUTHFACT 3+ is the best one on there.

mitu123

2 and 3 are intersting 

#1396 Posted by Toph_Girl250 (47675 posts) -
I'm seeing a lot of truth facts, so does PS4 win?
#1397 Posted by mitu123 (153911 posts) -
I'm seeing a lot of truth facts, so does PS4 win?Toph_Girl250
Not sure when there's only one thing said about PS4 and this link isn't helping either.
#1398 Posted by Toph_Girl250 (47675 posts) -
So X Box actually wins?
#1399 Posted by leon2365 (13053 posts) -

I will still buy both consoles. when they come down in price.

#1400 Posted by Toph_Girl250 (47675 posts) -
I buy I sell I swindle.