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#1 julian_jr
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Figured for all the talks that some people *mitu have about computers and technical things, we should create a thread where we can focus only on computer specs and several other things. Let's try however to focus mostly on technical things and not just about PC gaming. To start things off, I may be getting a netbook sometime soon to take with me to class. My current 15" Macbook is nice, however it's a bit of a hassle taking it everywhere with me, and I've been wanting something smaller and lighter just for class. Any thoughts on recommended netbooks (note: I don't care about gaming, I just want something for school and that is powerful enough to do programming).
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#2 mitu123
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Where do I begin?:o
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#3 julian_jr
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You choose lol. By the way, in case you didn't catch it, the *mitu was a pointer to you lol. It's programming stuff that I'm sure no one here wants to get into right now though.
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#4 avatarIVN
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julian_jr. I personally think you should consider not only your actual need but your future needs as well. I mean that a netbook probably will solve your actual need for programming (visual studio, netbeans, or whatever you are using), but wont do with newer versions of the software or with programs that need more than  1GB/2GB of RAM

if you still think the netbook is the best option, I personally recomend the the brands toshiba or ASUS. 

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julian_jr. I personally think you should consider not only your actual need but your future needs as well. I mean that a netbook probably will solve your actual need for programming (visual studio, netbeans, or whatever you are using), but wont do with newer versions of the software or with programs that need more than  1GB/2GB of RAM

if you still think the netbook is the best option, I personally recomend the the brands toshiba or ASUS. 

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You know of programming? I don't think I've ever ran into someone here who has heard of netbeans (which is what I use). That's my main concern is that it can run netbeans. As for the future, I don't really worry too much about other software, I have a macbook which is always going to be my main computer. This netbook would just be so that I can take to class easily and do programming there if necessary. I'll probably use it for the remainder of college and then will have gotten the value's worth of it.
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#6 avatarIVN
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Well, if you are going to create programs with JAVA in Netbeans, the mobility is a must, and you have a full computer at home, then the netbook of ASUS or Toshiba is your best choice.

I know a little of programming because I am a student of computer engineering. And although I have a long, long way to go before I can call myself a programmer, please feel free to ask me anything you need about programming.By the way, Are you studying a computer-related career?

 

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Well, if you are going to create programs with JAVA in Netbeans, the mobility is a must, and you have a full computer at home, then the netbook of ASUS or Toshiba is your best choice.

I know a little of programming because I am a student of computer engineering. And although I have a long, long way to go before I can call myself a programmer, please feel free to ask me anything you need about programming.By the way, Are you studying a computer-related career?

 

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I think the one I was looking at was an Asus. I'd be glad with whatever can get the job done. As for my studies, I'm currently in my second year of studying computer science. We're almost in the same field pretty much, except you're more hardware focused while I'm software pretty much.
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#8 avatarIVN
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Certainly you are more like a software specialist than I do. Although we have a little of both hardware and software in my career I work as a programmer, mostly because of the circunstances and the need to work rather than my studies.

What is your opinion about open source software like Linux and PHP?

 

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Certainly you are more like a software specialist than I do. Although we have a little of both hardware and software in my career I work as a programmer, mostly because of the circunstances and the need to work rather than my studies.

What is your opinion about open source software like Linux and PHP?

 

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I still haven't gotten to work with either yet (I actually start next semester), however I'm excited to start learning about it. I specifically chose to get a Macbook rather than a windows for college because it's Unix based.
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#10 avatarIVN
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So you are a software specialist and you use JAVA as your programming language. maybe we could create a technology-based company someday
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Well this will come in handy the day I am looking for a gaming comp.
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#12 julian_jr
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I'm only beginning still. Right now I'm learning C++ actually.
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#13 avatarIVN
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Why C++ and not C#?
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#14 julian_jr
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It's a good foundation language. I'll learn the rest in the future probably. Right now the only languages I know are Python and C++.
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#15 avatarIVN
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I am not against any programming language, nevertheless I consider C# closer to JAVA in terms of similarities, C++ is of the same family but not as related as C#. Changing the topic, is mitu as computer-related student as well?
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#16 horgen  Moderator
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Nah, he is just a gamer.
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#17 avatarIVN
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Does anybody else works/studies in the technology area (not just computers, but tablets, smartphones and videogames)?
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#18 mitu123
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Nah, he is just a gamer. horgen123
I also build PCs and have knowledge of parts.
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Does anybody else works/studies in the technology area (not just computers, but tablets, smartphones and videogames)?avatarIVN
Sandulf29 is doing computer engineering and I think he graduates this year. He's the only other person I know of.
I am not against any programming language, nevertheless I consider C# closer to JAVA in terms of similarities, C++ is of the same family but not as related as C#. Changing the topic, is mitu as computer-related student as well?avatarIVN
Ah well I haven't done any JAVA programming yet. JAVA hides some things from the programmer though which C++ doesn't.
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[QUOTE="horgen123"]Nah, he is just a gamer. mitu123
I also build PCs and have knowledge of parts.

For living, or because you want the best for you gaming rig?
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#21 avatarIVN
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Speaking of technology, What do you think about tablets? Is it true that they are only good for consuming media or do tablets have a future in the software creation?
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#22 julian_jr
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I could see tablets being the next step. I'm no expert or anything, however they do have a lot of potential. I could see them one day possibly being used for things we can't even imagine right now.
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#23 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="horgen123"]Nah, he is just a gamer. horgen123
I also build PCs and have knowledge of parts.

For living, or because you want the best for you gaming rig?

Best for gaming rig, but I want to do it for a living someday.
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#24 avatarIVN
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I guess since this year (2011) has been the year of the boom of the tablets, there is still a lot of applications that have to be developed: applications for creating software, for editing video and audio, etc. 

In this last quarter of the year, the new processor of Nvidia is going to be launched for the next generation of tablets. I want to have a tablet for gaming and watching videos and reading books, among other things.  

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I was thinking more along the lines of tablets being capable of completely taking over books, notebooks, and other school supplies. Instead of the traditional paper, pencil, and book method we've all grown with, I can see it to where one day all people will need is to take a tablet with them. I haven't considered other things yet, since I've only considered this from a student's standpoint.
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#26 avatarIVN
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Well, I guess the tablet its only limited by the user that possess it and the software you have on it.

I consider the tablet has a lot of potential 

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Speaking of technology, What do you think about tablets? Is it true that they are only good for consuming media or do tablets have a future in the software creation?avatarIVN
To consume media, you need new software.
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#28 Racer_XLR
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As far as tablets go, has anyone been paying attention to the new Kindle Fire?
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#29 lancelot200
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Why would you buy an e-reader when a tablet does that and more.
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#30 Racer_XLR
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It is a tablet.
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#31 julian_jr
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Why would you buy an e-reader when a tablet does that and more.lancelot200
There are different features between a tablet such as the Ipad and a reader like the Kindle. An e-reader has a much longer battery life and is specifically designed for books, which I assume would make reading a more pleasant experience.
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#32 lancelot200
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I'm pretty sure that a tablet can have page flipping ability.
It is a tablet.Racer_XLR
I thought it was an e-reader
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#33 avatarIVN
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As far as tablets go, has anyone been paying attention to the new Kindle Fire?Racer_XLR

To be honest I consider Amazon Kindle to be one step behind in terms of technology. Maybe I am mistaken because of the kindle fire's price. My point is that with a new generation of tablets coming by the end of this year, the Toshiba Thrive and the ASUS transformer in the market, perhaps its better to spend a little more money to have one of those tablets than the kindle

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#34 Racer_XLR
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@Lance: Yeah, the older Kindles' are pretty much dedicated e-readers. From what I've read, the Kindle fire has the necessary features for it to qualify as a tablet. Plus, Amazon sent me an email telling me it was a tablet, so it must be a tablet. :P
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@Lance: Yeah, the older Kindles' are pretty much dedicated e-readers. From what I've read, the Kindle fire has the necessary features for it to qualify as a tablet. Plus, Amazon sent me an email telling me it was a tablet, so it must be a tablet. :PRacer_XLR
Well, the new Amazon tablet offers access to their library of stuff, which you have to pay for.
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To be honest I consider Amazon Kindle to be one step behind in terms of technology. Maybe I am mistaken because of the kindle fire's price. My point is that with a new generation of tablets coming by the end of this year, the Toshiba Thrive and the ASUS transformer in the market, perhaps its better to spend a little more money to have one of those tablets than the kindleavatarIVN
I'm waiting to see what's on the market before I make any decisions. I haven't looked at what the other tablets have to offer yet..
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#37 Sandulf29
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Now a thread I can rule :twisted:

BTW I will be getting a new laptop very soon. Currently I am liking one model very much and it fits my budget. Here are the specs:

i5 Sandy bridge processor (i think 2410)

4GB RAM

and 1/2 GB of nVIDIA GT 540

15.6" TFT LCD

1366x768 res

 

all for around $670. I think it can handle almost all of recent games. Benchmarks say it can run Bulletstorm, Black Ops on 45 FPS I think that speaks for performance. Whadya think guys?

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...Computer stuff. Yay. :P
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Now a thread I can rule :twisted:

BTW I will be getting a new laptop very soon. Currently I am liking one model very much and it fits my budget. Here are the specs:

i5 Sandy bridge processor (i think 2410)

4GB RAM

and 1/2 GB of nVIDIA GT 540

15.6" TFT LCD

1366x768 res

 

all for around $670. I think it can handle almost all of recent games. Benchmarks say it can run Bulletstorm, Black Ops on 45 FPS I think that speaks for performance. Whadya think guys?

Sandulf29
For a laptop(which I'm normally against for gaming) that is impressive.
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#40 Sandulf29
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I to prefer Desktops for gaming. But with tight budget and severe need for laptop I think this is a grat option IMO. I will get a gaming rig when I have a job maybe :P
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@Sandulf: would you say that getting a netbook for coding/school would be a wise investment or not? I'm considering getting one so I'll have something more easily portable which I can take everywhere with me, and just leave my macbook in my room instead of having to take it out so frequently.
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@Sandulf: would you say that getting a netbook for coding/school would be a wise investment or not? I'm considering getting one so I'll have something more easily portable which I can take everywhere with me, and just leave my macbook in my room instead of having to take it out so frequently.julian_jr
I would say no.
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[QUOTE="julian_jr"]@Sandulf: would you say that getting a netbook for coding/school would be a wise investment or not? I'm considering getting one so I'll have something more easily portable which I can take everywhere with me, and just leave my macbook in my room instead of having to take it out so frequently.horgen123
I would say no.

Why not though?
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Battery life plus power.
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#45 mitu123
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I to prefer Desktops for gaming. But with tight budget and severe need for laptop I think this is a grat option IMO. I will get a gaming rig when I have a job maybe :PSandulf29
Yes, it's good for now.
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I to prefer Desktops for gaming. But with tight budget and severe need for laptop I think this is a grat option IMO. I will get a gaming rig when I have a job maybe :PSandulf29
Maybe? Is that a possible no? :o
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Now a thread I can rule :twisted:

BTW I will be getting a new laptop very soon. Currently I am liking one model very much and it fits my budget. Here are the specs:

i5 Sandy bridge processor (i think 2410)

4GB RAM

and 1/2 GB of nVIDIA GT 540

15.6" TFT LCD

1366x768 res

 

all for around $670. I think it can handle almost all of recent games. Benchmarks say it can run Bulletstorm, Black Ops on 45 FPS I think that speaks for performance. Whadya think guys?

Sandulf29

I think these are good hardware specifications, however a better graphics card could help you great deal for gaming. 

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#48 Sandulf29
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@Sandulf: would you say that getting a netbook for coding/school would be a wise investment or not? I'm considering getting one so I'll have something more easily portable which I can take everywhere with me, and just leave my macbook in my room instead of having to take it out so frequently.julian_jr
I would be installing Fedora on this one. So gaming+work. Why don't you want to carry around your Macbook? Laptops are much more useful than netbooks and tablets are just waste of money

Maybe? Is that a possible no? :o horgen123
I should be able to get a job easily -___- So mostly yes i will get a gaming rig but for that I need money

I think these are good hardware specifications, however a better graphics card could help you great deal for gaming.

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There isn't much choice in graphics card as far as laptops are concerned. Getting this much in a non-gaming laptop is wonder. For beter graphics card you go straight to gaming laptops by Gateway and Alienware which are bulky and expensive.
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My laptop is 15 inches and I don't like the idea of just throwing it in my backpack like everyone else does. If I got something much smaller it would be extremely easy to take it with me, and since most netbooks aren't that expensive I wouldn't be worried about taking it everywhere with me. I'd still end up using my Macbook more, however I could just leave it in my room and use the smaller netbook for class.
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#50 Sandulf29
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How heavy is your macbook? It can't be that heavy. I usually only have a laptop and one or two notebook in my backpack so it isn't that heavy