[QUOTE="RationalAtheist"]Hold on - earlier you insisted that you were playing Devil's advocate! I thought as much...
Android339
I *was* playing devil's advocate, because I was arguing from the standpoint that rape is impossible in marriage, but now I am arguing from the point of rape being possible, still not being right, but on a different level. Don't even try to make me out to be someone who is pro-rape here. I'm not going to tolerate it.
What do you mean "implied"? Are you saying that the rights of a husband in wanting sex over-rule the rights of his wife in refusing?
RationalAtheist
If I said that, as you are assuming I am, then I would naturally come to the conclusion that rape is impossible in marriage. Even you know that's not what I said. I said that it is wrong, but on a different level. So no, the rights of a husband in wanting sex do not overrule the rights of his wife in refusing.
Wouldn't it be more reasonable for a man to consider divorce before rape? What about all the woman's stuff? I think marriage is a partnership and not a dictatorship.
RationalAtheist
You don't understand how divorce works, then, at least in America. Divorce usually results in the wife taking half of the husband's stuff, and if they have children, then paying a ridiculous amount of money in child support (my mother actually had my father pay more, guilt tripping him) while hardly getting to see the kids. That is not always the case, but it usually is the case when the parents who divorced did so over bitter reasons.
I don't recall you ever arguing that married rape was impossible. I thought you just presented the same argument here again. I thought you were talking about rape as having "different levels" - depending on married status, presumably.
If the rights of man in wanting sex are not more just than the rights of women for refusing it, then how is marital rape justified at all?
I know how marriage works - since I am married. I also know about divorce rights. If the mother is left with children, she will need plenty of resources to raise them. Parental rights over child access are fair and simple. People naturally choose to blame the system protecting families on ruining family relationships than the integrity of the family themselves.
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