Zone of the Enders HD Collection scores terribly on GS

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#1 Posted by super600 (30714 posts) -

GS has given this game a 5.5 /10 for the PS3 version and a 6/10 for the 360 version..Even with the score not showing you can tell by reading the review for the HD collection that the collection scored low on GS.

Bad

  • Poor frame rate
  • No online integration
  • Clunky dialogue
  • Repetitive gameplay

Good

  • Responsive controls
  • Speedy and addictive combat
Link to review
http://www.gamespot.com/zone-of-the-enders-hd-collection/reviews/zone-of-the-enders-hd-collection-review-6399365/

Lol HVS!:P

#2 Posted by JohnnyCageMK (4340 posts) -
I was thinking about getting this since I never played them before. Doesn't sound good tho.
#3 Posted by campzor (34932 posts) -
have they scored the other hd collections? Did zoe1/2 have online on ps2? if not... horrible "bad" point Poor framerate? So worse than the ps2 versions?
#4 Posted by funsohng (28104 posts) -
So no actual score? We should have more of these. Giving scores is dumb idea for contemporary games; it is even worse for remastered ports of old games where standards are different.
#5 Posted by darkspineslayer (19749 posts) -
Unfortunate. After the great time I had with MGSHD, I was totally going to buy this. Not if its a broken mess though. No excuse when your porting a last gen game to a much more powerful console.
#6 Posted by super600 (30714 posts) -

So no actual score? We should have more of these. Giving scores is dumb idea for contemporary games; it is even worse for remastered ports of old games where standards are different.funsohng

There's a score, but the review is glitched.The score will most likely be a 5 or 5.5.

#7 Posted by funsohng (28104 posts) -
Unfortunate. After the great time I had with MGSHD, I was totally going to buy this. Not if its a broken mess though. No excuse when your porting a last gen game to a much more powerful console.darkspineslayer
If you really want this game, I'd suggest looking through other reviews. Who knows, they might have different opinions.
#8 Posted by Slashkice (13231 posts) -

ZOE2 in HD at 60fps was a thing of dreams, but alas, it wasn't meant to happen. :/

As for the review, it's nice to see GS got someone who knows what they're talking about unlike with Silent Hill HD.

#9 Posted by darkspineslayer (19749 posts) -
[QUOTE="darkspineslayer"]Unfortunate. After the great time I had with MGSHD, I was totally going to buy this. Not if its a broken mess though. No excuse when your porting a last gen game to a much more powerful console.funsohng
If you really want this game, I'd suggest looking through other reviews. Who knows, they might have different opinions.

Fair enough. It was mostly a passing curiosity that had me even looking at it though. The same curiosity that saw me picking up Borderlands 2, The World Ends with You and Metal Gear collection. If most of the reviews say the game is a technical mess though, I'll be staying far away.
#10 Posted by Slashkice (13231 posts) -

Fair enough. It was mostly a passing curiosity that had me even looking at it though. The same curiosity that saw me picking up Borderlands 2, The World Ends with You and Metal Gear collection. If most of the reviews say the game is a technical mess though, I'll be staying far away.darkspineslayer

If you haven't played the games at all, I absolutely recommend picking up the PS2 versions. The games still hold up, 2nd Runner especially.

#11 Posted by Teuf_ (30805 posts) -

What a lame remake. Maybe I can find PS2 copy of ZoE2 somewhere.

#12 Posted by Meeeper282 (1602 posts) -

lems should hype this game, it is best played on 360

#13 Posted by todd2r_Partdeux (780 posts) -
Once again a multiplatform release that's dragged down due to the hot garbage that is ps3. Can we, as a gaming community, just start a protest, or petition to permanently ban multiplats from the ps3?
#14 Posted by Cherokee_Jack (32198 posts) -
God, they gave it to High Voltage? They were asking for it.
#15 Posted by Slashkice (13231 posts) -

The score is showing now for anyone who cares. GS gave it a 5.5.

#16 Posted by Wanderer5 (25721 posts) -

Damn. Ah well I will try to still enjoy it whenever I start playing it, but this is disappointing.

#17 Posted by BPoole96 (22802 posts) -

Thats a shame. I was somewhat interested in trying these games out. Bad frame rate is a no go for me though so I will skip it.

#18 Posted by Pffrbt (6564 posts) -

I bought this game for the PS3, unaware of the issues. The FPS really is just disgustingly slow. I'm going to trade it in for the 360 version.

#19 Posted by DarkLink77 (31697 posts) -

Aw, I bought this as a gift for someone. I hope they patch it or something.

#20 Posted by GD1551 (9155 posts) -

The PS3 version is much worse than the 360 version, I think it was an average of 15 frames worse off.

#21 Posted by Master_ShakeXXX (13361 posts) -

ZOE2 in HD at 60fps was a thing of dreams, but alas, it wasn't meant to happen. :/

As for the review, it's nice to see GS got someone who knows what they're talking about unlike with Silent Hill HD.

Slashkice

They should be forced to re-review the Silent Hill collection, seriously. Giving that a good score is a straight up lie.

#22 Posted by VendettaRed07 (14012 posts) -

I just find these HD remakes lazy and a waste of time. The games they release are almost always easily available elsewhere for much less. They hardly ever offer enough improvements to even make it worth it even if you don't own it already. And most of the time its very likely that you do.

#23 Posted by Gxgear (10425 posts) -

This is actually worse than Splinter Cell Collection (6.0)? Highly doubt it.

All I cared about was the Vita version, which is in limbo right now with zero updates.

#24 Posted by Bigboi500 (29999 posts) -

5.5 is the score.

#25 Posted by freedomfreak (40875 posts) -
It's just pathetic how some of these collections turn out. They charge people for a version you can find better and cheaper on its previous platform.
#26 Posted by Zeviander (9503 posts) -
So I still own the superior versions. Good to know. Best I invest in some PS2 component cables then as the majority of these remakes have been meh.
#27 Posted by Zeviander (9503 posts) -
They charge people for a version you can find better and cheaper on its previous platform.freedomfreak
Good luck finding The Second Runner for cheaper than this. Let alone a mint copy.
#28 Posted by freedomfreak (40875 posts) -
[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]They charge people for a version you can find better and cheaper on its previous platform.Zeviander
Good luck finding The Second Runner for cheaper than this. Let alone a mint copy.

I just did. http://www.gamemania.be/Default.aspx?tabid=87&gmgame=11836
#29 Posted by SNIPER4321 (10144 posts) -

Jehuty strikes back!

WTF? wht is my name Written on this crappy game?

#30 Posted by sts106mat (19851 posts) -

Jehuty strikes back!

WTF? wht is my name Written on this crappy game?

SNIPER4321

your name is written all over Call of Duty and Medal of Honor as well you generic freak.

In fact, "sniper XX" or similar is probably one of the most popular names chosen by kids who play COD.

#31 Posted by alien1280rhys (164 posts) -

Shame, I was looking forward to this :( will have to bring my PS2 out of storage... think it's time for some second runner :)

#32 Posted by Razor_defiace (1618 posts) -

I think the score is a bit too low. A 7 or 6.5 for performance issues is ok, but a 5.5 because it doesn't have online, is too short and clunky stuff (why wasn't Heavenly Sword's score docked for being a 3 hour game with some performance issues and clunky gameplay?).

Also isn't Addictive combat a polar opposite of repetitive gameplay, and since it's a "short" game-- wouldn't that be a non issue if the overall gameplay is "repetitive" but addictive?

Anyway I don't really agree with the review, apart from performance issues. I do remember the game having local versus mode, but it was just a novelty at the time. It doesn't need to be online integrated, it's just a bonus for playing the game; along with the additional modes.

#33 Posted by Zeviander (9503 posts) -
[QUOTE="freedomfreak"] I just did. http://www.gamemania.be/Default.aspx?tabid=87&gmgame=11836

Now find NTSC (I'm assuming it's the PAL version).
#34 Posted by freedomfreak (40875 posts) -
[QUOTE="Zeviander"][QUOTE="freedomfreak"] I just did. http://www.gamemania.be/Default.aspx?tabid=87&gmgame=11836

Now find NTSC (I'm assuming it's the PAL version).

It is. And I wouldn't even know where to begin with NTSC regions. I doubt most of these games from the collections are hard to find like ZOE, which is available over here.
#35 Posted by skrat_01 (33767 posts) -
Jeez. That's a shame. I remember the second one fondly for being super stylish and very difficult. I was considering picking this up.
#36 Posted by DaisyFan007 (1231 posts) -

I got the HD collection on PS3 so far, i dont have anyproblem to running the first game. i dont really notice the problem FPS to be honest, maybe on 2nd runner. about the review i dont agreed, at least i accept it his opinion about it. however no online, was a bit ridicule from his part.

Bad english sorry.

#37 Posted by TheEroica (13692 posts) -

[QUOTE="darkspineslayer"]Fair enough. It was mostly a passing curiosity that had me even looking at it though. The same curiosity that saw me picking up Borderlands 2, The World Ends with You and Metal Gear collection. If most of the reviews say the game is a technical mess though, I'll be staying far away.Slashkice

If you haven't played the games at all, I absolutely recommend picking up the PS2 versions. The games still hold up, 2nd Runner especially.

I watched a little gameplay the other day and I have to be honest I dont see the draw, but ait seems to have a pretty strong following.
#38 Posted by Zeviander (9503 posts) -
[QUOTE="freedomfreak"] It is. And I wouldn't even know where to begin with NTSC regions. I doubt most of these games from the collections are hard to find like ZOE, which is available over here.

I'm not sure what it is about used NTSC games, but they are worth so much more than PAL or NTSC-J versions. I paid, I think, $40 before shipping for a copy of Second Runner, and most I found at the time (on eBay) were pushing $60. It was a harder game for me to find reasonably priced. But damn, it's a fine game.
#39 Posted by freedomfreak (40875 posts) -
[QUOTE="Zeviander"][QUOTE="freedomfreak"] It is. And I wouldn't even know where to begin with NTSC regions. I doubt most of these games from the collections are hard to find like ZOE, which is available over here.

I'm not sure what it is about used NTSC games, but they are worth so much more than PAL or NTSC-J versions. I paid, I think, $40 before shipping for a copy of Second Runner, and most I found at the time (on eBay) were pushing $60. It was a harder game for me to find reasonably priced. But damn, it's a fine game.

Damn, before shipping? That's a hefty pricetag. And people asking 60? Pricy game.
#40 Posted by Zeviander (9503 posts) -
[QUOTE="freedomfreak"] Damn, before shipping? That's a hefty pricetag. And people asking 60? Pricy game.

I don't think it hit "Greatest Hits" status so it is somewhat rarer than most desirable PS2 games. Edit: Then again, this was 2008 when I bought it. Before an HD version, hell, before HD remakes were even a thing.
#41 Posted by Zeviander (9503 posts) -
eBay search finds: 2x NTSC copies, one used for $17, one new for $115 :o 2x PAL copies, one used for 99p ($1.68), one new for $24.60 I laffed. Plus, that is it too. Four copies across all of ebay.com.
#42 Posted by freedomfreak (40875 posts) -
[QUOTE="Zeviander"]eBay search finds: 2x NTSC copies, one used for $17, one new for $115 :o 2x PAL copies, one used for 99p ($1.68), one new for $24.60 I laffed. Plus, that is it too. Four copies across all of ebay.com.

That difference in price is....noticeable.
#43 Posted by Nanomage (2419 posts) -

I'm not sure what it is about used NTSC games, but they are worth so much more than PAL or NTSC-J versions. Zeviander

I think it´s all about suply and demand,maybe a lot of those games are just easier to find in some PAL regions than NTSC,I know I never had any problem finding a copy of Ico or SotC even in stores and at fairly good prices(years after the actual releases,I bought a new copy of Ico for 15euros in 2007 and a new copy of SotC for 20e in 2009,both new at a GAME store,FNAC also had them for years),but those games seemed to be pretty rare on the US and of course the prices of used copies much,much higher.

#44 Posted by Zeviander (9503 posts) -
I think it´s all about suply and demand,maybe a lot of those games are just easier to find in some PAL regions than NTSC,I know I never had any problem finding a copy of Ico or SotC even in stores and at fairly good prices(years after the actual releases,I bought a new copy of Ico for 15euros in 2007 and a new copy of SotC for 20e in 2009,both new at a GAME store,FNAC also had them for years),but those games seemed to be pretty rare on the US and of course the prices of used copies much,much higher.Nanomage
I got SUPER lucky with NTSC ICO. Gamestop (at the time, EB Games) got a random trade in, didn't really know what it's value was, and sold it me for like $12 (CAD). Boxart for the NTSC version is fugly though. Wish I had a nice printer, then I'd print up a PAL version.
#45 Posted by Michael0134567 (28651 posts) -

Good job HVS! :lol:

They best be staying away from other franchises.

#46 Posted by Giancar (19068 posts) -
Who the f*** gave the job to HVS? :|
#47 Posted by 1PMrFister (3134 posts) -
Ugh, seriously? There's no excuse for an HD remake of a game performing worse than the original. Wanted to try these games, but I guess I'll skip this version.
#48 Posted by kuraimen (28078 posts) -
I don't get why GS reviews the bad HD collections and not the good ones. But anyways, bummer I was planning on getting this. Will wait for more reviews.
#49 Posted by yokofox33 (29863 posts) -

Glad I cancelled my pre-order. Shame they didn't turn out so great.

#50 Posted by musicalmac (23030 posts) -
Woof 5.5