You think Phil could really turn Rare around ?

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#1 TheRealBigRich
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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-06-19-microsoft-pledges-to-support-rare?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialoomph

Im willing to give him a chance even thought the initial response I am seeing is people want to let Rare die. Something does seem different with Phil Spencer and even though he isnt doing anything he should not already be doing it just makes to much sense to use Viva pinata , Banjo Kazooie, Conker and Perfect Dark . What does SW think Phil could SW turn Rare around ?

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#2 R4gn4r0k
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All the talent has left Rare by now. What is left to turn around, exactly ?

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#3  Edited By SolidTy
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Read the article you posted again. It has nothing to do with Phil Spencer.

"In an interview with Eurogamer, Microsoft Studios Europe boss Phil Harrison insisted Rare still had the support of its owner."

It's an interview featuring Phil Harrison. The answer is a resounding no after reading the article as Harrison is a mouthpiece of PR and RARE has internally been converted from top to bottom as a Kinect Developer.

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#4 TheRealBigRich
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Oh ok my bad I thought Phil was the head of gaming division so if its not ultimately up to him then I see how Harrison would have to make that decision. The thing about people leaving is they could be rehired or people that know how to make games can come in a make games that people want to play. It would seem Rare was made a kinect developer under Don so i cant see why it cant change . People are really suspicious of anything I guess

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At this point we have no idea what Rare is capable of. Microsoft can say all they want about Rare not being forced to make Kinect titles, but that is just hard to believe.

The only plus I see is the new Sports title flopped hard. Maybe they will be allowed to actually make video games again. Even if they do, you are talking about a company that has had a lot of internal change since the N64 days. I am sure some of the same people are there, but a lot of the people who made games have also left.

Rare would have to make a game and then we would have to see where it goes. I do not see how you can really make a good Kinect title. Its a gimmick when utilized as the only control method. I am not sure what they would be capable of nowadays.

I will say this. If Microsoft had done things differently and Rare was the same developer they were during the N64 days, I would have a Xbox One in my living room.

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#6 SecretPolice
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A new Conker as a masterful graphics & game-play masterpiece on The One would cure all their ills - Make it happen MS !!!!

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#7  Edited By deactivated-5acbb9993d0bd
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Rare is not the same Rare anymore, just like Blizzard is not the same Blizzard... most of the "Talent" left long ago.

That and kids furry platformers are not popular anymore... kids want things like Minecraft these days.... RARE's day is done... move on.

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#8  Edited By handssss
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no

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#9 bezza2011
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Rare don't have a chance because the only thing you have on Rare is the memory of great idea's and great games, anyone who was actually at Rare in their heyday have left, get over it, Rare have pretty much gone,look for something else, it cannot be saved.

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#10 edwardecl
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How many developers are left from the pre-Microsoft Rare?

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#11 intotheminx
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The whole thing with Conker at E3 was a big **** you. People lost their shit when they seen Conker lol. They should take a hint.

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#12  Edited By TheRealBigRich
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People are just speculating at this point about who is and who isn't left at rare. They could be right but I don't know. Maybe don't make a big budget game at first just a indie or small budget game to start off that wouldn't be bad

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#13 edwardecl
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@TheRealBigRich said:

People are just speculating at this point about who is and who isn't left at rare. They could be right but I don't know. Maybe don't make a big budget game at first just a indie or small budget game to start off that wouldn't be bad

Their games must have credits?

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#14 Lulu_Lulu
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Yes he could.... By making Kinect included with Everysingle Xbox again.... Give me the Kinect Adventures 2 baby ! Thats whats hot right now !

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#15 Heil68
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Quite simply no.

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#16 GamingTitan
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I doubt they will revive their glory days. It's a shame because I really liked perfect dark.

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#17  Edited By Gue1
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kameo was a 360 launch title and it looked more interesting than all the trashy exclusives ms has for the xbone. They should allow rare to make a part 2 of that game.

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#18 chikenfriedrice
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@handssss said:

no

Yeah I felt that

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#19 santoron
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Rare as you remember them died a long time ago. The name remains just to piss old timers off.

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#21 TrappedInABox91
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Theres nothing to turn out. MS already killed and buried Rare many years ago. Fuckers...

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@TheRealBigRich said:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-06-19-microsoft-pledges-to-support-rare?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialoomph

Im willing to give him a chance even thought the initial response I am seeing is people want to let Rare die. Something does seem different with Phil Spencer and even though he isnt doing anything he should not already be doing it just makes to much sense to use Viva pinata , Banjo Kazooie, Conker and Perfect Dark . What does SW think Phil could SW turn Rare around ?

Absolutely, although its not Phil but Rare that will do the work. They are working on at least two games right now, and will obviously be well financed. I don't know if the games will be good or not, but they have a number of franchises they can reboot, or just create a new IP. Rare has a great opportunity to show what they can do in 2015. I'd kill for a new Conker or Perfect Dark or a new RPG. Its far to early to make predictions until a game is announced and shown. I', excited for them though. They are probably so damn happy to not be developing Kinect games anymore.

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#23 k2theswiss
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They fired the head guys over at rare.

Step one complete

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#24  Edited By Boddicker
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@R4gn4r0k said:

All the talent has left Rare by now. What is left to turn around, exactly ?

This. A million times this.

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#25 littlestreakier
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@Boddicker: Talent can always be rehired and there is always new talent on the market. If MS decides to give Rare a fair chance there's no reason why Rare wouldn't be able to make a good game.

MS killed the Rare everyone loved, this is true but I still think they have some good IPs they can use to stir interest in the gaming community while "reinventing" themeselves