You can play Xbox 360 games on your PC?

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#51 Strutten
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[QUOTE="rilpas"]it'd be awesome if you couldDarkOfKnight
It would also make the 360 a worthless brick.....It is already, so maybe more of a worthless brick.

Bash thread in disguise seems like it .. anyway do you really think that they would allow that seriously think about it and while we are it, how should they play on pc if they are build up to play on consoles etc optimized for xbox, dont really think it will happen maybe with arcades but thats it .. its like shooting yourself in the foot ms isnt that dumb..

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#52 Strutten
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

An emulator is a different program entirely, and emulators have been used for years and years.

Without any of those games being re-written... so yes you wrong as usual.

tenaka2

Generally games played with emulators have garbage controls if not patched for every different game or tweaked

These things dont usually happen commecrially, MS will just not release a patch for every 360 game to be playable with keyboard properly and not like crap

So, no, i am not wrong, games will not play with keybaord /mouse by default

Yes you are wrong, you said games had to be re-written for keyboard and mouse, this is clearly NOT the case as can be seen by the fact that emulators have been used for years.

So yes your wrong as usual and clearly know nothing about game development.

Ehm you dont either tenaka, stop acting like you know it ..

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#53 tenaka2
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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Generally games played with emulators have garbage controls if not patched for every different game or tweaked

These things dont usually happen commecrially, MS will just not release a patch for every 360 game to be playable with keyboard properly and not like crap

So, no, i am not wrong, games will not play with keybaord /mouse by default

Strutten

Yes you are wrong, you said games had to be re-written for keyboard and mouse, this is clearly NOT the case as can be seen by the fact that emulators have been used for years.

So yes your wrong as usual and clearly know nothing about game development.

Ehm you dont either tenaka, stop acting like you know it ..

Well I have worked for a couple of games companies, although I admit I have more experience in more mainstream IT then games.

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#54 rockydog1111
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Couldn't you just link a 360 controller to the PC and play it that way. It's MS operating system, can't they just make it mandatory to use the controller when XBLA or 360 games are played. It would suck for M/KB fans, but it would be an easier solution for them.

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#55 loosingENDS
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Couldn't you just link a 360 controller to the PC and play it that way. It's MS operating system, can't they just make it mandatory to use the controller when XBLA or 360 games are played. It would suck for M/KB fans, but it would be an easier solution for them.

rockydog1111

This is not an option of course

Imagine the rage this would bring and you cant demand a pad when KB+MOuse is the main control method on PC

Would be like demapnding KB+Mouse on a 360 game

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#56 MonsieurX
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Would be modded in no time anyway.
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#57 loosingENDS
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Would be modded in no time anyway.MonsieurX

But well, it is not

Making PC the joke version right now, i mean in reality, not in the fantastic parallel world that is indeed changed for PC too

I cant grasp how PC gamers that call console so last gen and are so extreme about the very best graphics and specs, can even look at the PC version with the terrible lighting and pretend everything is fine

What hypocricy

If i had spent 10.000$ on PC hardware and since Witcher 2 looks like that on PC, i would throw my build from a skyscraper

But seems PC gamers dont actually care for the graphics, just for the bragging rights

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#58 MonsieurX
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Sadly,you got a bad laptop and can't enjoy real good looking games.
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#59 loosingENDS
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Sadly,you got a bad laptop and can't enjoy real good looking games.MonsieurX

Thank god, so i can play games with next gen lighting on 360, like Crysis 1 and Witcher 2

PC always gets the worst lighting, so i am glad i dont game there, who would ?

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#60 Heil68
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With 360 loosing exclusives left and right with the paltry amount available, I so no big deal with just letting the rest be playable.
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#61 MonsieurX
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Sadly,you got a bad laptop and can't enjoy real good looking games.loosingENDS

Thank god, so i can play games with next gen lighting on 360, like Crysis 1 and Witcher 2

PC always gets the worst lighting, so i am glad i dont game there, who would ?

Using Crysis 1 on the 360 as an argument? Can't get worst than that :lol:
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#62 loosingENDS
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Sadly,you got a bad laptop and can't enjoy real good looking games.MonsieurX

Thank god, so i can play games with next gen lighting on 360, like Crysis 1 and Witcher 2

PC always gets the worst lighting, so i am glad i dont game there, who would ?

Using Crysis 1 on the 360 as an argument? Can't get worst than that :lol:

Well, the vanila Crysis 1 looked like a joke comparing to 360 version with the next gen lighting

Same case as Witcher 2

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#63 Wasdie  Moderator
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No, but they want to make GFWL part of the Windows 8 kernel and rebrand it. This could be very good as now all PC games could easily integrate with XBL/GFWL infrastructure, bringing things like achivements and VoiP to all games (party chat in GFWL).

I'm trying to be optimistic about it because GFWL has a lot of problems right now.

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#64 tenaka2
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Sadly,you got a bad laptop and can't enjoy real good looking games.loosingENDS

Thank god

Thank god you are poor? Thats a very strange attitude.

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#65 MonsieurX
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Higher HDR\bloom effect,as usual which makes you think it looks better. :lol:
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#66 MonsieurX
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360 can't handle foliage,I guess

Crysis_1_PC_vs_Xbox_360_Infinite_Picdump

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#67 loosingENDS
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Higher HDR\bloom effect,as usual which makes you think it looks better. :lol:MonsieurX

BUt it looks better

You do realise people dont play specs, but what they actually see on their screen

As DIGITAL FOUNDRY said the graphics on 360 look far more realistic and amazing

As Digital Founrdy said indeed, didnt they ?

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#68 loosingENDS
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360 can't handle foliage,I guess

MonsieurX

We have been through the fake Crysis 1 pics from the early build

Stop the lies, we we not born yesterday

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#70 MonsieurX
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]

360 can't handle foliage,I guess

loosingENDS

We have been through the fake Crysis 1 pics from the early build

Stop the lies, we we not born yesterday

Early build? Actual footage dude,get real. Can't handle the truth?
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#71 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Ehm, can you be more specific ?

loosingENDS

Yes, you are a moron.

So, you are just trolling, i knew you have no idea about programming

Both the PC and XBox 360 shares the same Xinput APIs. DirectX11 is a superset of Xbox 360's DirectX.

Xbox 360's .NET Compact Framework and PC's .NET Framework delivers MS's CPU abstraction layer i.e. similar to JavaVM

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#72 tenaka2
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360 can't handle foliage,I guess

Crysis_1_PC_vs_Xbox_360_Infinite_Picdump

MonsieurX

nice, perhaps this will shut him up.

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#73 tenaka2
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]

360 can't handle foliage,I guess

loosingENDS

We have been through the fake Crysis 1 pics from the early build

Stop the lies, we we not born yesterday

Oh come on, Crysis on 360 may as well be called Lego Crysis, have you seen how blocky the graphics look in such a low resolution?

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#74 loosingENDS
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]

360 can't handle foliage,I guess

tenaka2

nice, perhaps this will shut him up.

Why, this is not a real final version pic from Crysis 1

It is confirmed fake and from a very old build

You cant shut someone up with lies

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#75 MonsieurX
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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]

360 can't handle foliage,I guess

loosingENDS

nice, perhaps this will shut him up.

Why, this is not a real final version pic from Crysis 1

It is confirmed fake and from a very old build

You cant shut someone up with lies

Confirmed where? You confirmed it? :lol:
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#76 MonsieurX
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You cant shut someone up with lies

loosingENDS

...but you do it all the time :|

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#77 loosingENDS
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Both the PC and XBox 360 shares the same Xinput APIs. ronvalencia

Which means what ?

The API differentiates pad and keyboard calls and you can tailor for the specific controls even in XNA

Nothing is automatic really, when you want something specific, you have to write it, there is no bridge unless you make one

From my XNA experience, you can group basic functions for both pad and keyboard, but the highest level controls have to be specifically tweaked for pad and keyboard

And depending on the game nd its specifics this could take some or a lot of work

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#78 loosingENDS
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

nice, perhaps this will shut him up.

MonsieurX

Why, this is not a real final version pic from Crysis 1

It is confirmed fake and from a very old build

You cant shut someone up with lies

Confirmed where? You confirmed it? :lol:

Ehm, here

http://www.mycrysis.com/forums/topic39362

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#79 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="ronvalencia"] Both the PC and XBox 360 shares the same Xinput APIs. loosingENDS

Which means what ?

The API differentiates pad and keyboard calls and you can tailor for the specific controls even in XNA

Nothing is automatic really, when you want something specific, you have to write it, there is no bridge unless you make one

From my XNA experience, you can group basic functions for both pad and keyboard, but the highest level controls have to be specifically tweaked for pad and keyboard

And depending on the game nd its specifics this could take some or a lot of work

Support for PC's KB/M is dependent on the quality of the port and the nature of the game type. For example, a XBL Pinball type game wouldn't require elaborate control system.

Anyway, most PC racing games on Windows indirectly forces the user to play with Xbox 360 controller (and clones) since KB/M is not suitable for this game type. A hardcore PC gamer is most likely to have an Xbox 360 controller (and it's clones).

For the PC, KB/M and Xbox 360 controller support is enough.

From msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ee417014(v=vs.85).aspx

There are several advantages to using XInput over DirectInput:

  • XInput is easier to use and requires less setup than DirectInput
  • Both Xbox 360 and Windows programming will use the same sets of core APIs, allowing programming to translate cross-platform much easier
  • There will be a large installed base of Xbox 360 controllers
  • XInput devices (that is, the Xbox 360 controllers) will have vibration functionality only when using XInput APIs
  • Future controllers released for the Xbox 360 console (that is, steering wheels) will also work on Windows

PS; Most of my PC input devices are Microsoft branded anyway i.e. they last long. Adding MS Xbox 360 controller to this list is not a big issue.

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#80 loosingENDS
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Even if gamers have pads, a serious company cant just release games that are unplayable in KB+MOuse on PC

It will just never happen

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#81 ronvalencia
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Even if gamers have pads, a serious company cant just release games that are unplayable in KB+MOuse on PC

It will just never happen

loosingENDS

I don't know why KB+M such a large issue for you i.e. Alanwake PC works fine with KB+M or Xbox 360 controller.

You don't release games on Apple iPad without proper touch controls i.e. it's the nature of the platform. The effort is dependent on stakeholder's revenue expectations.

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#82 kraken2109
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"][QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Why, this is not a real final version pic from Crysis 1

It is confirmed fake and from a very old build

You cant shut someone up with lies

loosingENDS

Confirmed where? You confirmed it? :lol:

Ehm, here

http://www.mycrysis.com/forums/topic39362

And here is a comparison with the legit console version, still looks crap.
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#83 loosingENDS
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The lighting on PC looks laughable, to say the least

Reminds me of Far Cry 1 lighting

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#84 loosingENDS
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I don't know why KB+M such a large issue for you i.e. Alanwake PC works fine with KB+M or Xbox 360 controller.

You don't release games on Apple iPad without proper touch controls i.e. it's the nature of the platform. The effort is dependent on stakeholder's revenue expectations.

ronvalencia

But we are talking about the whole xbox 360 game library here, not one game

If all xbox 360 games appear on PC, each one will have to be remade for KB+Mouse

That would require a huge ammount of work and effort and is not that simple

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#85 brennanhuff
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[QUOTE="rilpas"]it'd be awesome if you couldDarkOfKnight
It would also make the 360 a worthless brick.....It is already, so maybe more of a worthless brick.

And now the real intent has shown. You are a worm. Go cry somewhere else because you can't afford $3 a month.

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The lighting on PC looks laughable, to say the least

Reminds me of Far Cry 1 lighting

loosingENDS

See I would love to call you a troll, but not even a troll is as persistent as you. So I'll just call you sad.

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#87 wis3boi
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ITT Looser Ends never used an emulator

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#88 MK-Professor
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[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Obviously it is, if you dont re-program the controls for keyboard/mouse, how are the games going to play exactly ?

loosingENDS

the same lol....input method is all linked to a binary code and im pretty sure all inputs are read via systems like Ascii on the computer where a binary number is assigned to an input lol.All actions are linked to a code the computer understands and that determines what happens.

Pretty sure even the simple console controller will use a simplified system like this.

You have no idea what you are talking about, so lets leave it there

On XNA i am programming with, you have to define the exact way things control with a pad and a keyboard and assign #IF statements to separate based on platform

It is not at all unified or anything

As i said, have a look at some XNA code first and stop assuming redicoulous stuff

Only some basic functions can be grouped under one action

I will give a very simple example, wiht pad you switch run/walk by the stick pressure, with keyboard you have to insert a shift based run to have the same effect (without the analog anyway) and could not be possible just by the standard move around code

I am sure most games could easilly be patched for keyboard/mouse, but they would need a patch and testing to work properly

double-facepalm1.jpg

loosy never stop to amaze me with his BS.

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#89 loosingENDS
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

The lighting on PC looks laughable, to say the least

Reminds me of Far Cry 1 lighting

Wasdie

See I would love to call you a troll, but not even a troll is as persistent as you. So I'll just call you sad.

Just stating the facts, Crytek themselves stated that the lighting on 360 is way better than the vanilla PC version

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#90 kraken2109
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

The lighting on PC looks laughable, to say the least

Reminds me of Far Cry 1 lighting

loosingENDS

See I would love to call you a troll, but not even a troll is as persistent as you. So I'll just call you sad.

Just stating the facts, Crytek themselves stated that the lighting on 360 is way better than the vanilla PC version

Crytek will say whatever it takes to sell a crappy port to consolites that believe that kind of crap. Look at the picks. The console version is blue and bloom, as well as being a blurry low res mess.
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#91 MK-Professor
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

The lighting on PC looks laughable, to say the least

Reminds me of Far Cry 1 lighting

loosingENDS

See I would love to call you a troll, but not even a troll is as persistent as you. So I'll just call you sad.

Just stating the facts, Crytek themselves stated that the lighting on 360 is way better than the vanilla PC version

more BS from loosingENDS...

PC (crysis vanilla, no nods)

xbox (xbox, sub-hd, low-medium settings, 25 fps)

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#92 DarkOfKnight
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LoosingEnds stupidity killed my thread. :( Thanks moron, for killing my thread and making console gamers look bad.
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#93 Substah
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Nice, I can finally play xbox360's extensive exclusive library on my PC. Oh wait, it only has 2 worth playing exclusives...and even those are aimed at dudebros.
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#94 mitu123
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If true there would be less reasons to get a 360!

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#95 ionusX
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bah jsut wait a year after next gen.. this dilema will sort itself out thanks to the grimy world of emulation :P

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#96 Phazevariance
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Most of them end up on PC sooner or later, so I wouldn't worry about that.

KiZZo1
As long as you dont mind waiting years to play games that everyone else has played, sure.
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#97 Cherokee_Jack
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If that ever happened, it would be due to a sitcom-level string of misunderstandings.

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#98 deactivated-57af49c27f4e8
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i hope you can because my fourth xbox just broke and it was out of warranty. i'm not playing halo anymore unless this comes true.
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#99 tenaka2
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LoosingEnds stupidity killed my thread. :( Thanks moron, for killing my thread and making console gamers look bad.DarkOfKnight

The mods tend to close his threads, he has no choice but to try hi-jack others :)

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#100 DarkOfKnight
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[QUOTE="DarkOfKnight"]LoosingEnds stupidity killed my thread. :( Thanks moron, for killing my thread and making console gamers look bad.tenaka2

The mods tend to close his threads, he has no choice but to try hi-jack others :)

:( But why mine? This is my first system wars thread and I wanted it to be good. LoosingEnds is a big ol jerk.