Xbox One : ‘We Have Just As Many Pre-order Numbers As PS4

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#151 Posted by KellyKelly (377 posts) -

Microsoft should have just revealed their pre-order numbers, but they can't because what they say isn't true

#152 Edited by urbansys (232 posts) -

Sony fanboys when Xbox one news: "more MS PR bull crap"

MS fanboys when PS4 news: "more sony PR bull crap"

System wars has become a useless place to have any form of intellectual conversation. It's a bunch of 15 year olds arguing about system hardware they don't understand, marketing and sales strategies they can't comprehend, and unless it is information about their favorite console, they straight don't give a flying crap. If the truth hit them in the face they wouldn't care and ignore it.

Stay classy gamespot.

#153 Edited by The_Last_Ride (69619 posts) -

@urbansys said:

Sony fanboys when Xbox one news: "more MS PR bull crap"

MS fanboys when PS4 news: "more sony PR bull crap"

System wars has become a useless place to have any forum of intellectual conversation. It's a bunch of 15 year olds arguing about system hardware they don't understand, marketing and sales stratgies they can't comprehend, and unless it is information about their favorite console, they straight don't give a flying crap. If the truth hit them in the face they wouldn't care and ignore it.

Stay classy gamespot.

Are you really surprised?

#154 Posted by tormentos (16730 posts) -

@PS4TrumpsXbox1: Lol at Amazon.. most gamer's i know buy from shopto.net / Game. amazon = parents buying christmas presents for their kids.

Yeah i am sure...hahaha

#155 Posted by urbansys (232 posts) -

@sts106mat said:

@PS4TrumpsXbox1: Lol at Amazon.. most gamer's i know buy from shopto.net / Game. amazon = parents buying christmas presents for their kids.

Yeah i am sure...hahaha

I already know you won't know the answer to this but can you prove him otherwise? Not saying he is right, but you always post crap like this without anything to back it up.

#156 Edited by tormentos (16730 posts) -

Microsoft should have just revealed their pre-order numbers, but they can't because what they say isn't true

The fact taht this was posted on Reddit basically kill the whole story and by a developer..lol

Is pure damage control.

MS doesn't know sony actual numbers.

The PS4 has been say to be ahead in pre-orders every where world wide.

The fact that MS has way less unit for pre-order than sony,yet you can still pre-order an xbox one almost everywhere while the PS4 is sold out in many place is another give away.

And the biggest flag raiser,is the sad comment of we have as much pre-orders but without an actual number that we can hold to,and using a pathetic excuse to justify not giving numbers.

This holiday the PS4 will out sell the xbox one and is going to be epic here can't wait,,,hahaha

#157 Edited by ronvalencia (15109 posts) -

@Far_RockNYC said:

http://gamingbolt.com/xbox-one-dev-we-have-just-as-many-pre-order-numbers-as-ps4-details-snapping-feature#1IU5t5eSfR1MyZZU.99

Not shocking really, both these consoles will sellout at launch, so much for those 3-1 pre-order rumors.

There's an American APU and GDDR IP solution in that Jap toy.

http://vr-zone.com/articles/gddr6-memory-coming-in-2014/16359.html

AMD created and chairs GDDR standards.

From AMD's facebook page...

Buying PS4 or X1 will be supporting AMD. The PC market needs AMD to keep Intel and NVIDIA prices in check.

#158 Edited by urbansys (232 posts) -

@tormentos said:

@kellykelly said:

Microsoft should have just revealed their pre-order numbers, but they can't because what they say isn't true

The fact taht this was posted on Reddit basically kill the whole story and by a developer..lol

Is pure damage control.

MS doesn't know sony actual numbers.

The PS4 has been say to be ahead in pre-orders every where world wide.

The fact that MS has way less unit for pre-order than sony,yet you can still pre-order an xbox one almost everywhere while the PS4 is sold out in many place is another give away.

And the biggest flag raiser,is the sad comment of we have as much pre-orders but without an actual number that we can hold to,and using a pathetic excuse to justify not giving numbers.

This holiday the PS4 will out sell the xbox one and is going to be epic here can't wait,,,hahaha

Actually Sony did report of pre-orders of 1 million. There are also reports of 1.5 million PS4 pre-orders. The xbox one dev was obviously (if you cared to even read the article) going off those reports when he made that comment.

The same reports you are claiming that the PS4 is ahead, the same amount can be linked showing the xbox is ahead in some parts of the world.

Can you show one ounce of hard proven facts the PS4 has more units for pre-orders over xbox one??

The point of all this is, NO ONE KNOWS. We won't know until the official release of both consoles.

AND the biggest flag to you BS comment is Sony has yet to release any numbers other then the 1 million report and you can't understand that a dev was reporting they had just as many for the xbox.....

You push more BS than both Sony and MS put together. You constantly twist the facts and share more fiction with each post. No wonder Ron so easily owned you... wow...

#159 Posted by Crossel777 (5593 posts) -

How do they even know PS4's preorder numbers? More MS bullshit.

#160 Edited by KellyKelly (377 posts) -

The people at Microsoft need to grow up, their constant lies are getting sad

#161 Edited by tormentos (16730 posts) -

@urbansys said:

Actually Sony did report of pre-orders of 1 million. There are also reports of 1.5 million PS4 pre-orders. The xbox one dev was obviously (if you cared to even read the article) going off those reports when he made that comment.

The same reports you are claiming that the PS4 is ahead, the same amount can be linked showing the xbox is ahead in some parts of the world.

Can you show one ounce of hard proven facts the PS4 has more units for pre-orders over xbox one??

The point of all this is, NO ONE KNOWS. We won't know until the official release of both consoles.

AND the biggest flag to you BS comment is Sony has yet to release any numbers other then the 1 million report and you can't understand that a dev was reporting they had just as many for the xbox.....

You push more BS than both Sony and MS put together. You constantly twist the facts and share more fiction with each post. No wonder Ron so easily owned you... wow...

Have you see MS report publicly that they have 1 million units pre-order.? This is MS they still hype NPD numbers all months,except this past one where the PS3 over took the xbox 360 in US.

If the xbox one was selling just as good they would be screaming right now all over the net,DF articles on the xbox are basically damage control to try to make people believe that both units are on par when they are not,imaging if they actually knew for fact that their console is selling just as good.

They are using sony numbers and extrapolating to claim that,they don't know how many pre-orders sony have those are a moving target.

No dude Sony reports are backed by sites like Amazon and even Gamestop had the PS4 ahead in several bundles vs the xbox one.

Yet those claims for the xbox one were empty with no form to corroborate they were actually happening.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2013/videogames

PS4 at #8 xbox one at #12.

But that is not the only one pass to page 2 and you will see another PS4 bundle at #39 spot while the other xbox one bundle is on 93 spot.

So yeah sony is having more pre-orders.

http://www.gamestop.com/browse?nav=2b12,28-xu0,135

This ^^ is also a clear giveaway scroll thought pages.

COD,BF4,AC4,NBA2K,Destiny,NFS

All selling better on PS4 i am sure developers are checking that list to,since it is a clear giveaway of the console that will sell more games.

At least sony say 1 million has MS say any numbers at all.?

Oh yeah i think your is even more BS since MS hasn't say sh** but a damage control ""we have just as many preo-orders"" without actual valid numbers.

Talk all the crap you want there are the links you butthurt fanboy enjoy..

#162 Posted by monsterpuncher (146 posts) -

This anonymous xbone developer (how convienent, hes anomymous) wouldnt have a clue as to how many pre orders the PS4 currently has. Only Sony would know that.

Further proof that this all BS.

Microsoft IS GETTING DESPERATE and is in full damage control with all the BS and lies they have been trying to spread. Wont ever work. We can spot Microsoft's BS from miles away.

#163 Posted by Heil68 (43182 posts) -
#164 Edited by monsterpuncher (146 posts) -

@urbansys said:

Actually Sony did report of pre-orders of 1 million. There are also reports of 1.5 million PS4 pre-orders. The xbox one dev was obviously (if you cared to even read the article) going off those reports when he made that comment.

The same reports you are claiming that the PS4 is ahead, the same amount can be linked showing the xbox is ahead in some parts of the world.

Can you show one ounce of hard proven facts the PS4 has more units for pre-orders over xbox one??

The point of all this is, NO ONE KNOWS. We won't know until the official release of both consoles.

AND the biggest flag to you BS comment is Sony has yet to release any numbers other then the 1 million report and you can't understand that a dev was reporting they had just as many for the xbox.....

You push more BS than both Sony and MS put together. You constantly twist the facts and share more fiction with each post. No wonder Ron so easily owned you... wow...

Have you see MS report publicly that they have 1 million units pre-order.? This is MS they still hype NPD numbers all months,except this past one where the PS3 over took the xbox 360 in US.

If the xbox one was selling just as good they would be screaming right now all over the net,DF articles on the xbox are basically damage control to try to make people believe that both units are on par when they are not,imaging if they actually knew for fact that their console is selling just as good.

They are using sony numbers and extrapolating to claim that,they don't know how many pre-orders sony have those are a moving target.

No dude Sony reports are backed by sites like Amazon and even Gamestop had the PS4 ahead in several bundles vs the xbox one.

Yet those claims for the xbox one were empty with no form to corroborate they were actually happening.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2013/videogames

PS4 at #8 xbox one at #12.

But that is not the only one pass to page 2 and you will see another PS4 bundle at #39 spot while the other xbox one bundle is on 93 spot.

So yeah sony is having more pre-orders.

http://www.gamestop.com/browse?nav=2b12,28-xu0,135

This ^^ is also a clear giveaway scroll thought pages.

COD,BF4,AC4,NBA2K,Destiny,NFS

All selling better on PS4 i am sure developers are checking that list to,since it is a clear giveaway of the console that will sell more games.

At least sony say 1 million has MS say any numbers at all.?

Oh yeah i think your is even more BS since MS hasn't say sh** but a damage control ""we have just as many preo-orders"" without actual valid numbers.

Talk all the crap you want there are the links you butthurt fanboy enjoy..

WOW.

Urbansys just got ROYALLY OWNED. How embaressing for him lol.

You cant mess around with Tormentos. Unlike staunch xboners, Tormentos actually backs up his position and arguments with logic, reason, and facts.

Tormentos is untouchable. Hes embaressed so many xbots now and he has even caused some known xbots here to have mental breakdowns.

Tormentos is one of the best posters here by far. Keep doing what you do Tormentous:) Many appreciate your informative posts:) love you, no homo lol..

#165 Posted by monsterpuncher (146 posts) -

@kellykelly said:

Microsoft should have just revealed their pre-order numbers, but they can't because what they say isn't true

The fact taht this was posted on Reddit basically kill the whole story and by a developer..lol

Is pure damage control.

MS doesn't know sony actual numbers.

The PS4 has been say to be ahead in pre-orders every where world wide.

The fact that MS has way less unit for pre-order than sony,yet you can still pre-order an xbox one almost everywhere while the PS4 is sold out in many place is another give away.

And the biggest flag raiser,is the sad comment of we have as much pre-orders but without an actual number that we can hold to,and using a pathetic excuse to justify not giving numbers.

This holiday the PS4 will out sell the xbox one and is going to be epic here can't wait,,,hahaha

#167 Posted by Far_RockNYC (1112 posts) -

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#168 Edited by always_explicit (2655 posts) -

@tormentos said:

@urbansys said:

Actually Sony did report of pre-orders of 1 million. There are also reports of 1.5 million PS4 pre-orders. The xbox one dev was obviously (if you cared to even read the article) going off those reports when he made that comment.

The same reports you are claiming that the PS4 is ahead, the same amount can be linked showing the xbox is ahead in some parts of the world.

Can you show one ounce of hard proven facts the PS4 has more units for pre-orders over xbox one??

The point of all this is, NO ONE KNOWS. We won't know until the official release of both consoles.

AND the biggest flag to you BS comment is Sony has yet to release any numbers other then the 1 million report and you can't understand that a dev was reporting they had just as many for the xbox.....

You push more BS than both Sony and MS put together. You constantly twist the facts and share more fiction with each post. No wonder Ron so easily owned you... wow...

Have you see MS report publicly that they have 1 million units pre-order.? This is MS they still hype NPD numbers all months,except this past one where the PS3 over took the xbox 360 in US.

If the xbox one was selling just as good they would be screaming right now all over the net,DF articles on the xbox are basically damage control to try to make people believe that both units are on par when they are not,imaging if they actually knew for fact that their console is selling just as good.

They are using sony numbers and extrapolating to claim that,they don't know how many pre-orders sony have those are a moving target.

No dude Sony reports are backed by sites like Amazon and even Gamestop had the PS4 ahead in several bundles vs the xbox one.

Yet those claims for the xbox one were empty with no form to corroborate they were actually happening.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2013/videogames

PS4 at #8 xbox one at #12.

But that is not the only one pass to page 2 and you will see another PS4 bundle at #39 spot while the other xbox one bundle is on 93 spot.

So yeah sony is having more pre-orders.

http://www.gamestop.com/browse?nav=2b12,28-xu0,135

This ^^ is also a clear giveaway scroll thought pages.

COD,BF4,AC4,NBA2K,Destiny,NFS

All selling better on PS4 i am sure developers are checking that list to,since it is a clear giveaway of the console that will sell more games.

At least sony say 1 million has MS say any numbers at all.?

Oh yeah i think your is even more BS since MS hasn't say sh** but a damage control ""we have just as many preo-orders"" without actual valid numbers.

Talk all the crap you want there are the links you butthurt fanboy enjoy..

WOW.

Urbansys just got ROYALLY OWNED. How embaressing for him lol.

You cant mess around with Tormentos. Unlike staunch xboners, Tormentos actually backs up his position and arguments with logic, reason, and facts.

Tormentos is untouchable. Hes embaressed so many xbots now and he has even caused some known xbots here to have mental breakdowns.

Tormentos is one of the best posters here by far. Keep doing what you do Tormentous:) Many appreciate your informative posts:) love you, no homo lol..

Tormentos posts are dull and barely cohesive. If anything the frequency and detail of his posts have cemented my opinion that the PS4 is an incredibly dull hardware upgrade.

#169 Edited by monsterpuncher (146 posts) -

@always_explicit said:

@monsterpuncher said:

@tormentos said:

@urbansys said:

Actually Sony did report of pre-orders of 1 million. There are also reports of 1.5 million PS4 pre-orders. The xbox one dev was obviously (if you cared to even read the article) going off those reports when he made that comment.

The same reports you are claiming that the PS4 is ahead, the same amount can be linked showing the xbox is ahead in some parts of the world.

Can you show one ounce of hard proven facts the PS4 has more units for pre-orders over xbox one??

The point of all this is, NO ONE KNOWS. We won't know until the official release of both consoles.

AND the biggest flag to you BS comment is Sony has yet to release any numbers other then the 1 million report and you can't understand that a dev was reporting they had just as many for the xbox.....

You push more BS than both Sony and MS put together. You constantly twist the facts and share more fiction with each post. No wonder Ron so easily owned you... wow...

Have you see MS report publicly that they have 1 million units pre-order.? This is MS they still hype NPD numbers all months,except this past one where the PS3 over took the xbox 360 in US.

If the xbox one was selling just as good they would be screaming right now all over the net,DF articles on the xbox are basically damage control to try to make people believe that both units are on par when they are not,imaging if they actually knew for fact that their console is selling just as good.

They are using sony numbers and extrapolating to claim that,they don't know how many pre-orders sony have those are a moving target.

No dude Sony reports are backed by sites like Amazon and even Gamestop had the PS4 ahead in several bundles vs the xbox one.

Yet those claims for the xbox one were empty with no form to corroborate they were actually happening.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2013/videogames

PS4 at #8 xbox one at #12.

But that is not the only one pass to page 2 and you will see another PS4 bundle at #39 spot while the other xbox one bundle is on 93 spot.

So yeah sony is having more pre-orders.

http://www.gamestop.com/browse?nav=2b12,28-xu0,135

This ^^ is also a clear giveaway scroll thought pages.

COD,BF4,AC4,NBA2K,Destiny,NFS

All selling better on PS4 i am sure developers are checking that list to,since it is a clear giveaway of the console that will sell more games.

At least sony say 1 million has MS say any numbers at all.?

Oh yeah i think your is even more BS since MS hasn't say sh** but a damage control ""we have just as many preo-orders"" without actual valid numbers.

Talk all the crap you want there are the links you butthurt fanboy enjoy..

WOW.

Urbansys just got ROYALLY OWNED. How embaressing for him lol.

You cant mess around with Tormentos. Unlike staunch xboners, Tormentos actually backs up his position and arguments with logic, reason, and facts.

Tormentos is untouchable. Hes embaressed so many xbots now and he has even caused some known xbots here to have mental breakdowns.

Tormentos is one of the best posters here by far. Keep doing what you do Tormentous:) Many appreciate your informative posts:) love you, no homo lol..

Tormentos posts are dull and barely cohesive. If anything the frequency and detail of his posts have cemented my opinion that the PS4 is an incredibly dull hardware upgrade.

Who are you? I didnt ask to hear your opinion nor do i give a damn about you. Youre a nobody delusional xbot. Your opinions mean nothing and will always mean nothing. Tormentous is easily one of the best posters here. You can go beat it xbot

#170 Posted by blamix99 (1607 posts) -

lol.. in your dreams ms

#171 Posted by shawn30 (4361 posts) -

@urbansys said:

@tormentos said:

@kellykelly said:

Microsoft should have just revealed their pre-order numbers, but they can't because what they say isn't true

The fact taht this was posted on Reddit basically kill the whole story and by a developer..lol

Is pure damage control.

MS doesn't know sony actual numbers.

The PS4 has been say to be ahead in pre-orders every where world wide.

The fact that MS has way less unit for pre-order than sony,yet you can still pre-order an xbox one almost everywhere while the PS4 is sold out in many place is another give away.

And the biggest flag raiser,is the sad comment of we have as much pre-orders but without an actual number that we can hold to,and using a pathetic excuse to justify not giving numbers.

This holiday the PS4 will out sell the xbox one and is going to be epic here can't wait,,,hahaha

Actually Sony did report of pre-orders of 1 million. There are also reports of 1.5 million PS4 pre-orders. The xbox one dev was obviously (if you cared to even read the article) going off those reports when he made that comment.

The same reports you are claiming that the PS4 is ahead, the same amount can be linked showing the xbox is ahead in some parts of the world.

Can you show one ounce of hard proven facts the PS4 has more units for pre-orders over xbox one??

The point of all this is, NO ONE KNOWS. We won't know until the official release of both consoles.

AND the biggest flag to you BS comment is Sony has yet to release any numbers other then the 1 million report and you can't understand that a dev was reporting they had just as many for the xbox.....

You push more BS than both Sony and MS put together. You constantly twist the facts and share more fiction with each post. No wonder Ron so easily owned you... wow...

I agree with everything you're saying, I just hate it when anyone makes a statement and they are anonymous. Even if I disagree with an opinion, if you stand by it and put your name out there I respect it more. All those anonymous devs and anonymous insiders make me sick. I wish they'd say nothing at all than not put their word on the line and use their real name. Back on topic, pre-sales have never ever determined who won or lost a gen, and even the word lost is subjective due to if the business model is profitable so what if you are number two. Its only bad when you're hemorrhaging money by operating in the red.

Overall, I only care about the systems gaming line-up and features - which is in the lead doesn't matter to me - but it is funny when Cows go supernova :) i will admit that, lol

#172 Posted by urbansys (232 posts) -

@urbansys said:

Actually Sony did report of pre-orders of 1 million. There are also reports of 1.5 million PS4 pre-orders. The xbox one dev was obviously (if you cared to even read the article) going off those reports when he made that comment.

The same reports you are claiming that the PS4 is ahead, the same amount can be linked showing the xbox is ahead in some parts of the world.

Can you show one ounce of hard proven facts the PS4 has more units for pre-orders over xbox one??

The point of all this is, NO ONE KNOWS. We won't know until the official release of both consoles.

AND the biggest flag to you BS comment is Sony has yet to release any numbers other then the 1 million report and you can't understand that a dev was reporting they had just as many for the xbox.....

You push more BS than both Sony and MS put together. You constantly twist the facts and share more fiction with each post. No wonder Ron so easily owned you... wow...

Have you see MS report publicly that they have 1 million units pre-order.? This is MS they still hype NPD numbers all months,except this past one where the PS3 over took the xbox 360 in US.

If the xbox one was selling just as good they would be screaming right now all over the net,DF articles on the xbox are basically damage control to try to make people believe that both units are on par when they are not,imaging if they actually knew for fact that their console is selling just as good.

They are using sony numbers and extrapolating to claim that,they don't know how many pre-orders sony have those are a moving target.

No dude Sony reports are backed by sites like Amazon and even Gamestop had the PS4 ahead in several bundles vs the xbox one.

Yet those claims for the xbox one were empty with no form to corroborate they were actually happening.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2013/videogames

PS4 at #8 xbox one at #12.

But that is not the only one pass to page 2 and you will see another PS4 bundle at #39 spot while the other xbox one bundle is on 93 spot.

So yeah sony is having more pre-orders.

http://www.gamestop.com/browse?nav=2b12,28-xu0,135

This ^^ is also a clear giveaway scroll thought pages.

COD,BF4,AC4,NBA2K,Destiny,NFS

All selling better on PS4 i am sure developers are checking that list to,since it is a clear giveaway of the console that will sell more games.

At least sony say 1 million has MS say any numbers at all.?

Oh yeah i think your is even more BS since MS hasn't say sh** but a damage control ""we have just as many preo-orders"" without actual valid numbers.

Talk all the crap you want there are the links you butthurt fanboy enjoy..

Soo again you have used nothing but speculation.

The amazon top selling list shows numbers?? Amazon is now the only website in the world to sell consoles???? oh and by the way, NOT a huge difference between number 8 and number 12.....

A Xbox One DEV just publicly said they have just as many pre-orders. So common sense says they must have at least 1.5 million pre-orders as well. Do you follow so far? This a representative for MS that was giving an interview. What more is that different then Sony doing the SAME exact thing in a interview....

The linked gamestop shows best selling pre-releases in no specific order number! Unless Legends of Zelda and WWE are all the sudden better sellers BF4 and CoD Ghost.... you are a joke to use this. You were better off using amazons list to show pre-orders then that link from gamestop....

With all that said, I am not a fanboy as I play my PC, 360, and PS3. What I cant stand about these forums right now is the false BS that spews out of people like you.

I dont have to be butt hurt. I will enjoy all new systems again in just a months time now. You are a few others here have made BIG arguments about SMALL numbers and its mind numbingly stupid. What is even worse is the amount of posters on these forums that wont do their own research or hell even actually READ the links provided by anyone but their fav.

#173 Edited by always_explicit (2655 posts) -

@always_explicit said:

Tormentos posts are dull and barely cohesive. If anything the frequency and detail of his posts have cemented my opinion that the PS4 is an incredibly dull hardware upgrade.

Who are you? I didnt ask to hear your opinion nor do i give a damn about you. Youre a nobody delusional xbot. Your opinions mean nothing and will always mean nothing. Tormentous is easily one of the best posters here. You can go beat it xbot

No need to cry about it sweety. You know what a forum is right?

You dont want to hear thoughts and opinions steer clear of forums. Just some advice ;)

Nice job reinforcing my decision to steer clear of the Sony community and their rabid fanbase though.

#174 Edited by monsterpuncher (146 posts) -

P.S for anyone interested, shawn30 was BANNED on neogaf for being a Microsoft shill.

Thats huge. He was outed and exposed as a Microsoft shill who was paid to hype up everything Microsoft while trying to discredit everything Sony etc His opinions should always be disregarded.

#175 Edited by monsterpuncher (146 posts) -

bn

@always_explicit said:

@monsterpuncher said:

@always_explicit said:

Tormentos posts are dull and barely cohesive. If anything the frequency and detail of his posts have cemented my opinion that the PS4 is an incredibly dull hardware upgrade.

Who are you? I didnt ask to hear your opinion nor do i give a damn about you. Youre a nobody delusional xbot. Your opinions mean nothing and will always mean nothing. Tormentous is easily one of the best posters here. You can go beat it xbot

No need to cry about it sweety. You know what a forum is right?

You dont want to hear thoughts and opinions steer clear of forums. Just some advice ;)

Nice job reinforcing my decision to steer clear of the Sony community and their rabid fanbase though.

Not only do you generalise a whole fanbase but you decide what system you like more based on the fans it has and how you percieve them. Not only very irrational, delusional.

It figuers though, because if you compared console vs console there is no way you could ever honestly and conceivable give the edge to the xbone, well assuming you were an actual real gamer...

As PS4 is 100$ cheaper 50% more powerful. Sony's long term support>>>>Microsoft's shady history of short term support. Playstation exclusives>>>>xbox exclusives. Playstation developers>>>>>>>>>>>xbox developers. PSN+ >>> xbox live.

Also, Sony never needed to flip flop because they were with gamers from the start. Microsoft tried to take away consumer rights etc...and I can keep going on and on...

There is NOT one area where the xbone is better. PS4 is VASTLY superior in every respect

I bet when people read your insane, self obsorved, ass up your own ass, pretentious, obnoxious xbone praising/downplaying of anything playstation, they are feeling the same way about you, the same way you feel about Sony fans.

Except they WOULD be correct about you. While you sir are a delusional xbot who looks to hate on anything playstation. You are simply pathetic

#176 Posted by clyde46 (43957 posts) -

@Douevenlift_bro said:

@Lumpy311 said:

@I_can_haz said:

Clyde is such a closet lemming. I respect the full blown lemmings way more than I respect closet lemmings like him. At least full blown lemmings aren't ashamed to come out and support their beloved company even with MS failing so hard. Closet lemmings pretend they are hermits when things get rough then show their lemming sides when they feel things are getting better for their faction. It's hilarious to watch really, only in SW.

Clyde is an hermit tough.

If Clyde is a hermit, I'm a sheep.

He's one of those guys who was forced to get a PS4 even though they hate Sony and cows. Simple as that

Why would someone who owns a gaming rig and shows quite a lot of interest in PC gaming be forced to buy a console?

You cows are off the rails here... going by your logic, anyone who speaks out anything against Sony is a lemming.

I'm not "forced" to buy anything. Cows being stupid as always.

#177 Edited by LJS9502_basic (149984 posts) -

MS PR.......nothing but.

#178 Edited by delta3074 (17761 posts) -

Pre -orders don't mean anything, Ps3 had a rubbish launch but still managed to catch up with the 360.

Hermits being called lemmings, vintage stuff right there.

'closet' Lem? seriously

#179 Posted by SuperCowElitist (730 posts) -

Those are clearly Microsoft employees pre-ordering it. No true gamer want a cable box. We just want to game.

#180 Edited by tormentos (16730 posts) -

Tormentos posts are dull and barely cohesive. If anything the frequency and detail of his posts have cemented my opinion that the PS4 is an incredibly dull hardware upgrade.

Funny how this gen those games had been selling better on 360,and now all of the sudden they are been pre-order more on PS4 than on xbox one Change.?

#181 Edited by tormentos (16730 posts) -

P.S for anyone interested, shawn30 was BANNED on neogaf for being a Microsoft shill.

Thats huge. He was outed and exposed as a Microsoft shill who was paid to hype up everything Microsoft while trying to discredit everything Sony etc His opinions should always be disregarded.

Do you have a link to that i would surely love to read it..haha Neogaf has ban more shills than any other site ever..

#182 Posted by lazerface216 (7449 posts) -

@clyde46 said:

@tormentos said:

@clyde46 said:

Makes a change from the usual Sony Defense Force programming.

Or the double personality of some so call hermits,Lemming by day hermit by night or is the other way around.?

hahaha

I am a hermit you dolt.

LOL just reading this made me laugh. people here referring to themselves as animals, then having the seriousness to actually call someone dolt. how rich.

#183 Posted by clyde46 (43957 posts) -

@clyde46 said:

@tormentos said:

@clyde46 said:

Makes a change from the usual Sony Defense Force programming.

Or the double personality of some so call hermits,Lemming by day hermit by night or is the other way around.?

hahaha

I am a hermit you dolt.

LOL just reading this made me laugh. people here referring to themselves as animals, then having the seriousness to actually call someone dolt. how rich.

Don't like it? GTFO. Them be the rules we play here on SW.

#184 Posted by always_explicit (2655 posts) -

bn

@always_explicit said:

No need to cry about it sweety. You know what a forum is right?

You dont want to hear thoughts and opinions steer clear of forums. Just some advice ;)

Nice job reinforcing my decision to steer clear of the Sony community and their rabid fanbase though.

Not only do you generalise a whole fanbase but you decide what system you like more based on the fans it has and how you percieve them. Not only very irrational, delusional.

It figuers though, because if you compared console vs console there is no way you could ever honestly and conceivable give the edge to the xbone, well assuming you were an actual real gamer...

As PS4 is 100$ cheaper 50% more powerful. Sony's long term support>>>>Microsoft's shady history of short term support. Playstation exclusives>>>>xbox exclusives. Playstation developers>>>>>>>>>>>xbox developers. PSN+ >>> xbox live.

Also, Sony never needed to flip flop because they were with gamers from the start. Microsoft tried to take away consumer rights etc...and I can keep going on and on...

There is NOT one area where the xbone is better. PS4 is VASTLY superior in every respect

I bet when people read your insane, self obsorved, ass up your own ass, pretentious, obnoxious xbone praising/downplaying of anything playstation, they are feeling the same way about you, the same way you feel about Sony fans.

Except they WOULD be correct about you. While you sir are a delusional xbot who looks to hate on anything playstation. You are simply pathetic

Woah, calm down internet soldier. Your doing a fine job defending your purchase : )

I just find the PS4 dull and uninspiring, its not an attack on you personally its just my thought on the inanimate object on sale by a company I have no affiliation with.

PS2 was my favorite console and crash bandicoot my favourite series of all time so whilst your opinion that im a rabid Xbot is valid...(as this is the very nature of an opinion) I can confirm it isnt as clear cut as you believe. Unfortunately a handful of poor experiences with the PS3 made me somewhat hesitant about purchasing another playstation console. I watched E3 with eager anticipation but the PS4 just looks boring to me. The hardware advantage is meaningless to me personally, if I was interested in hardware specs I would be a PC gamer by now. MS have created a more diverse product and as a young man with a young family an all in one entertainment centre is simply far more useful to me than the PS4. Now im aware that you may feel that I am attacking the PS4 but again im not saying its a bad product....im saying its a product that doesnt meet my needs as a consumer and isnt exciting and interesting enough to warrant buying in addition to the X1.

I essentially spent the majority of the current gen waiting for naughty god to release a gem so I had a reason to even play my PS3, I am not disputing Sony have some talented devs and great exclusives but I am saying... they are too few and far between to change my mind.

X1 offers a great way for me to interact with my entertainment with the kinect, be it through voice control, hand gestures navigating the UI and applications, its not essential but its something I think is interesting and its something that I will enjoy. My hope is that it gets integrated into games in a meaningful way but even if it doesnt its something my wife and daughter will enjoy a great deal. It feels like next generation technology to me because its useable and tangible in a way that the PS4 spec bump just isnt.

Also I disagree entirely that Sony's online service is superior to LIVE but again....your entitled to your opinion.

Anyway, keep it up champ. I know you have deemed me to be " insane, self obsorved, ass up your own ass, pretentious, obnoxious" but I have made a reasonable effort to explain to you why myself and other people are leaning in a different direction to yourself. Although calling me the above list of fruity names is not only agaisnt the TOU it also paints you in a far more negative light than myself. Your a credit to your community.

#185 Posted by sts106mat (18853 posts) -

@always_explicit: guaranteed he'll reply with "bullcrap i know a Lem / MS deluded / xbot / shill when i see one" and 15 paragraphs about TLOU and MS unholy practices.

#186 Edited by YD_11 (1620 posts) -

Seems like everyone is missing the qualifier here. He clearly says if ps4 is claiming 1.5 million preorders then they have at least as much.

#187 Posted by always_explicit (2655 posts) -

@always_explicit: guaranteed he'll reply with "bullcrap i know a Lem / MS deluded / xbot / shill when i see one" and 15 paragraphs about TLOU and MS unholy practices.

Haha that would be great, I actually loved the fact that MS unholy practises were pushing us towards a more steam-esque model with less emphasis on physical media...something I though was pretty great and might have saved gamers some cash. MS done a miserable job of marketing the idea and clarifying the way it would impact the consumer so in many ways I think they deserved to have their asses handed to them. But hey...they reversed the policies and are delivering a great launch lineup (on time) and as far as I am concerned the overall package on offer is far more attractive than the PS4. In fact the only time I will consider purchasing a PS4 is when they leap in graphical clarity is noticeably superior on one console over the other. I dont mean side by side bullshot comparison either...I mean naked eye gameplay comparison....and I just dont think its going to happen, I believe its going to be much like it was this gen tbh.

#188 Posted by tormentos (16730 posts) -

@sts106mat said:

@always_explicit: guaranteed he'll reply with "bullcrap i know a Lem / MS deluded / xbot / shill when i see one" and 15 paragraphs about TLOU and MS unholy practices.

Haha that would be great, I actually loved the fact that MS unholy practises were pushing us towards a more steam-esque model with less emphasis on physical media...something I though was pretty great and might have saved gamers some cash. MS done a miserable job of marketing the idea and clarifying the way it would impact the consumer so in many ways I think they deserved to have their asses handed to them. But hey...they reversed the policies and are delivering a great launch lineup (on time) and as far as I am concerned the overall package on offer is far more attractive than the PS4. In fact the only time I will consider purchasing a PS4 is when they leap in graphical clarity is noticeably superior on one console over the other. I dont mean side by side bullshot comparison either...I mean naked eye gameplay comparison....and I just dont think its going to happen, I believe its going to be much like it was this gen tbh.

This is pathetic bullsh** to justify striping us of the right to play our games like we want when we wanted.

MS policies basically gave the right to developers and to them self to determine for how long your game would work,if you could give it on trade in or not,in fact on EU MS policies would have been a case for lawsuits period.

Those games need it internet,if MS or developers chose to drop servers,your console would be a paper weight period,it has been cases of this already on PC where MS sold music that could be played on several devices,and once MS stopped the service you had to pick only 1 device to use your music there and the license would be permanently transfer to 1 device alone.

DRM sucks.

You could not even share your games with your friends,because the games become his an you loss it,and some how you think this is great and that it is that some how MS didn't advertise it well.?

Do you most be a damn shill period there is no way around this,justify those policies is stupid,and people make such a great fuss about it,because they know what those policies represented,gamers are not stupid are least not all are.

That is because you are comparing a damn game which is enclosed and build like a fighting game,vs a game that is way more open,i tell you this if Uncharted by any luck is made like this gen,it would walk all over Ryse,because the PS4 has more power.

Online Killzone SF not only looks better than Ryse,is 1080p and running at 60 FPS 60FPS dude it double Ryse frame rate while been on higher resolution that takes power period.

Maybe you should learn a thing or 2 about resolutions and frames.

At 1080p 60 FPS Killzone SF is doing way more than Ryse is at 900p 30 FPS way more.

#189 Posted by lazerface216 (7449 posts) -

@clyde46 said:

@lazerface216 said:

@clyde46 said:

@tormentos said:

@clyde46 said:

Makes a change from the usual Sony Defense Force programming.

Or the double personality of some so call hermits,Lemming by day hermit by night or is the other way around.?

hahaha

I am a hermit you dolt.

LOL just reading this made me laugh. people here referring to themselves as animals, then having the seriousness to actually call someone dolt. how rich.

Don't like it? GTFO. Them be the rules we play here on SW.

rules aside, it doesn't change the fact that you are a total f*cking lame who spends every single spare minute of your boring life on this board trying "own" 15 year olds.

#190 Posted by clyde46 (43957 posts) -

@clyde46 said:

@lazerface216 said:

@clyde46 said:

@tormentos said:

@clyde46 said:

Makes a change from the usual Sony Defense Force programming.

Or the double personality of some so call hermits,Lemming by day hermit by night or is the other way around.?

hahaha

I am a hermit you dolt.

LOL just reading this made me laugh. people here referring to themselves as animals, then having the seriousness to actually call someone dolt. how rich.

Don't like it? GTFO. Them be the rules we play here on SW.

rules aside, it doesn't change the fact that you are a total f*cking lame who spends every single spare minute of your boring life on this board trying "own" 15 year olds.

Here comes the "life card". 2003 called, they want their insult back.

#191 Posted by always_explicit (2655 posts) -

@always_explicit said:

@sts106mat said:

@always_explicit: guaranteed he'll reply with "bullcrap i know a Lem / MS deluded / xbot / shill when i see one" and 15 paragraphs about TLOU and MS unholy practices.

Haha that would be great, I actually loved the fact that MS unholy practises were pushing us towards a more steam-esque model with less emphasis on physical media...something I though was pretty great and might have saved gamers some cash. MS done a miserable job of marketing the idea and clarifying the way it would impact the consumer so in many ways I think they deserved to have their asses handed to them. But hey...they reversed the policies and are delivering a great launch lineup (on time) and as far as I am concerned the overall package on offer is far more attractive than the PS4. In fact the only time I will consider purchasing a PS4 is when they leap in graphical clarity is noticeably superior on one console over the other. I dont mean side by side bullshot comparison either...I mean naked eye gameplay comparison....and I just dont think its going to happen, I believe its going to be much like it was this gen tbh.

This is pathetic bullsh** to justify striping us of the right to play our games like we want when we wanted.

MS policies basically gave the right to developers and to them self to determine for how long your game would work,if you could give it on trade in or not,in fact on EU MS policies would have been a case for lawsuits period.

Those games need it internet,if MS or developers chose to drop servers,your console would be a paper weight period,it has been cases of this already on PC where MS sold music that could be played on several devices,and once MS stopped the service you had to pick only 1 device to use your music there and the license would be permanently transfer to 1 device alone.

DRM sucks.

You could not even share your games with your friends,because the games become his an you loss it,and some how you think this is great and that it is that some how MS didn't advertise it well.?

Do you most be a damn shill period there is no way around this,justify those policies is stupid,and people make such a great fuss about it,because they know what those policies represented,gamers are not stupid are least not all are.

That is because you are comparing a damn game which is enclosed and build like a fighting game,vs a game that is way more open,i tell you this if Uncharted by any luck is made like this gen,it would walk all over Ryse,because the PS4 has more power.

Online Killzone SF not only looks better than Ryse,is 1080p and running at 60 FPS 60FPS dude it double Ryse frame rate while been on higher resolution that takes power period.

Maybe you should learn a thing or 2 about resolutions and frames.

At 1080p 60 FPS Killzone SF is doing way more than Ryse is at 900p 30 FPS way more.

I seriously can barely comprehend what your trying to say.I really dont care that the PS4 is more powerful, it doesnt meet my needs as a consumer and its as simple as that. The X1 is a better entertainment device for me and my family as a whole. You can throw arguments left right and centre but it doesnt change the fact that the PS4 is not a product I want to buy lol. It bores me. It could be $200 dollars and I still wouldnt want one.
Im sure your gonna have blast with it though so good luck bro!!

#192 Posted by Heil68 (43182 posts) -

Im sure your gonna have blast with it though so good luck bro!!

Oh the army of millions....and millions of Sony Playstation fans will.

#193 Posted by lazerface216 (7449 posts) -

@clyde46 said:

@lazerface216 said:

@clyde46 said:

@lazerface216 said:

@clyde46 said:

@tormentos said:

@clyde46 said:

Makes a change from the usual Sony Defense Force programming.

Or the double personality of some so call hermits,Lemming by day hermit by night or is the other way around.?

hahaha

I am a hermit you dolt.

LOL just reading this made me laugh. people here referring to themselves as animals, then having the seriousness to actually call someone dolt. how rich.

Don't like it? GTFO. Them be the rules we play here on SW.

rules aside, it doesn't change the fact that you are a total f*cking lame who spends every single spare minute of your boring life on this board trying "own" 15 year olds.

Here comes the "life card". 2003 called, they want their insult back.

hey, i calls em' how i sees em'. real talk.

#194 Posted by tormentos (16730 posts) -

I seriously can barely comprehend what your trying to say.I really dont care that the PS4 is more powerful, it doesnt meet my needs as a consumer and its as simple as that. The X1 is a better entertainment device for me and my family as a whole. You can throw arguments left right and centre but it doesnt change the fact that the PS4 is not a product I want to buy lol. It bores me. It could be $200 dollars and I still wouldnt want one.

Im sure your gonna have blast with it though so good luck bro!!

Yeah i know to meet your needs the console most has a X as logo.

Well you can argue is better at doing redundant things,so why in hell would i want to hook up my cable box to and xbox one.? To have use 2 devices to accomplish what i can do with 1.?

The whole family crap is play out the PS Eye is $60 and support crappy family games to,in fact it comes with one build in.

Well i can say the same thing for the xbox one it bores me,i don't like Kinect or the PS eye to make that more clear,and i don't want to talk to my console,even less i want to hook up my damn cable box to do 1 thing with 2 devices when i can just do it with 1 and save energy in the process.

Yeah most people who say that talk just to argue about it,i am sure that if it was $200 you would be all over it,hell at $200 i would buy and xbox one without question.

But i guest you are to much of a lemming to do that.

#195 Posted by TrooperManaic (3726 posts) -

#196 Posted by always_explicit (2655 posts) -

@always_explicit said:

I seriously can barely comprehend what your trying to say.I really dont care that the PS4 is more powerful, it doesnt meet my needs as a consumer and its as simple as that. The X1 is a better entertainment device for me and my family as a whole. You can throw arguments left right and centre but it doesnt change the fact that the PS4 is not a product I want to buy lol. It bores me. It could be $200 dollars and I still wouldnt want one.

Im sure your gonna have blast with it though so good luck bro!!

Yeah i know to meet your needs the console most has a X as logo.

Well you can argue is better at doing redundant things,so why in hell would i want to hook up my cable box to and xbox one.? To have use 2 devices to accomplish what i can do with 1.?

The whole family crap is play out the PS Eye is $60 and support crappy family games to,in fact it comes with one build in.

Well i can say the same thing for the xbox one it bores me,i don't like Kinect or the PS eye to make that more clear,and i don't want to talk to my console,even less i want to hook up my damn cable box to do 1 thing with 2 devices when i can just do it with 1 and save energy in the process.

Yeah most people who say that talk just to argue about it,i am sure that if it was $200 you would be all over it,hell at $200 i would buy and xbox one without question.

But i guest you are to much of a lemming to do that.

Like I said have fun with your PS4....I dont really care.

#197 Edited by tormentos (16730 posts) -

Like I said have fun with your PS4....I dont really care.

Well you care enough to be trying to downplay it,maybe you are trying to convince your self that those extra $100 for Kinect are worth it..hahaha

#198 Posted by always_explicit (2655 posts) -

I explained my reasons for purchasing the X1 and my reasons for not purchasing the PS4. There is no point continuing the conversation with you, your difficult to interpret, tedious to converse with and frankly your incapable of having a reasoned debate without spewing your rinse and repeat diatribe of technobabble all of which is largely meaningless until release. Like I said...enjoy your PS4 and...

Keep on fighting internet soldier.

#199 Posted by joel_c17 (2815 posts) -

You can still get a Xbone day one pretty much anywhere is australia - ps4 is sold out until early next year :(

#200 Posted by tormentos (16730 posts) -

I explained my reasons for purchasing the X1 and my reasons for not purchasing the PS4. There is no point continuing the conversation with you, your difficult to interpret, tedious to converse with and frankly your incapable of having a reasoned debate without spewing your rinse and repeat diatribe of technobabble all of which is largely meaningless until release. Like I said...enjoy your PS4 and...

Keep on fighting internet soldier.

Your reason are lame and basically is nothing more that fanboy excuses to downplay another system.

Want to hear why i don't want an xbox one now.?

Now i own a 360 since launch,it was powerful console for $399,and landed a year before the PS3,the advantages the xbox 360 had the xbox one doesn't have them.

Is weak and is $100 dollars more than a more powerful console that release 1 week before it,i see no justification to buy one,i don't like Forza there is no Halo on launch,and everything interesting that you can do on the console still lock behind a pay wall.

If the xbox one was $350 with Kinect or $300 without it,i would dive in it,but at $500 there i no way i can justify that,the PS3 was and expensive console that i owned since day 1,but it was worth the money its hardware was so expensive it justify the whole purchase this is not the case with the xbox one.