Xbox ONE has a 5 billion transistor GPU

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#1 Posted by CallOfDutyRulez (1616 posts) -

http://misterxmedia.livejournal.com/

"Xbox One will have 8GB of RAM + 4 GB of Stacked new type of RAM for a total of 12GB as it was spotted on several dev kits leaks."

"mistercteam: 2x7970 GCN1.0 is the devkit RAW power, GCN 2.0 is much much efficient design that's the point
look at the 2560 ALU focus on that
then add GCN 2.0
add esRAM
add move engine
add Custom CPU"

"on raw performance it is between 7970 and 2x7970
see it is same like parasite or misterx insider
it is about 4.8 TF RAW"

"mistercteam: XB1 GPU certainly will be > 768 ALU , in GCN Term

Mister X insider said 2304 ALU, And later on 2x8970m = 2560 ALU
Parasite76 , 3 times , so about same as 2560/2304 ALU

The GCN 2.0 at 28nm , as Sushi Guy said, it is > 2800 ALU
the 20nm GCN 2.0 is > 3072 ALU

So it is safe to specualter XB1 GPU will be 2304 -2560 (PC AMD top end will be 2880 or more, the 20nm will be 3072 or more),
but the key aspect is XB1 is 2.0+ it is adding more efficient desgin by adding SRAM to GCN 2.0, also it is close environment, and the OS is more foucused for console performance

So when AMD release the GCN 2.0 with improved design
XB1 is at least already 1 step design same as XBox 360 1 step more advanced

The Die size on wired photo certainly > 500mm^2
the rumored 9950 2304 also have 5 Billion T

Microsofts PR department
> 5 BillionT
http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/156453-xbox-one-more-like-xbox-none-ms-blew-the-xbox-720-reveal-on-every-conceivable-level/2
"more than 5 billion transistors "


If they have to disclose it at Hotchip
it must be some breakthrough design , Hotchip is a high calibre
event

Also The Timing is so perfect aligned
Gamescom
Hotchip
AMD APU 13

This year We Will got GCN 2.0 GPU
XB one is GCN 2.0+ (GCN 2 + Move engine + SRAM)

57353_600.jpg

mistercteam: to sum it up, please read 1-4 post above before this, to read all link, pdf and others, also live streaming from Doug, director of MS research & CLoud.
Live streaming (MS research) scheduled at 15 July 2013, also featuring keynote from Bill Gates.

Now back to T3 core (improvement from edge/trips)
this is 32 core of edge/trips performace
from wiki and pdf

" 32 chips interconnected, approaching 500 GFLOPS"

now imagine 192 VSP (12 shader core) = 768 operation)

192 = 6 x 32 = 6 x 0.5TF = 3 TF at 1 Ghz, at 800 Mhz = 2.4 TF

imagine we up the shader core like rumored to be 24 SC at least.
24 SC = 384 = 12 x 32core = 12 x 0.5 TF = 6 TF = 4.9 TF at 800 Mhz (like parasite said)
how it is somehow fit so much

also that based on edge/trips performance
what about MS own T3 core, it is 50% more than trips/edge
so 24 SC = 384 T3 core = 4.9 x 1.5 = > 7 TF (wow)(real close box , performance
after they can utilize it, on base spec it is 4.9 TF at 24 shader core

no wonder it is called gfx core or shader core not compute unit
no wonder MS targetted at only 100-180W low clock

this thinng is new architecture
in the future they can pass xx TF easily just using 1.2 Ghz clock

they just choose AMD as partner to design it
the basic edge/trips are MS-Intel-IBM-SUN research

MS takes it further to develop it as real CPU for gaming use
with the help of IBM-AMD
remember MS have capability to write SDK, kernel, Framework
to make it happen

Like Rob Shearer (Eric Team) said, only 2 things that drive computing forward:
Server/High performance Computing & Gaming COnsole

*) also why they have to use 1x7970 or 2x7970 now rather make sense
*) also how that Edge/trips research pdf are same year as MS leaked Xbox next roadmap 2010liquid
go_latern_go: This is amazing MR.C!!!

Also Dev kits had liquid cooling system...could the X1 have liquid cooling system or somthing equivilent?? this could also be a reason it can only sit horizontal.

I remember Dev at the beginning of this gen would write unoptimized code for 360 and it fried lots of 360 because MS allowed dev full power of 360 yet devs werent even familiar with the new architecture.

This is why MS could be moderating the power this time around by letting devs upclock but only if they will use it. 1.2tflop emulation = 4tflop real world performance. All first year titles will be like this but what could they unlock/upclock by year 2?? ex. QB?? sunset overdrive?? black tusk game?? Halo 5 could possibly using even higher clocks, This why devs said the clocks are kinda wonky.

I would say the same if i seen

Clock frequency: 800mhz-???ghz 0__o

With liquid cooling system or equivilant too who knows how far they can clock it down the road?? This could also be why insider claimed PC 2.0 with upgrades every year. They will not try to cut into PC market but rather marry the 2 as in equal to eachother and will help one another not replace the other.

PC= for business

X1= for everything entertainment

Also remember eurogamer X surface leak?? stationary computing device stated 6 core cpu 6gb ram with 380w psu.

how far can these clocks be pushed with liquid cooling and 380w psu?? "

#2 Posted by lostrib (40000 posts) -

dafuq is this shit?

#3 Posted by CallOfDutyRulez (1616 posts) -

dafuq is this shit?

lostrib

Is the tech info too compelx for your small hermit brain?

The xbox ONE is stronger than the strongest gaming PC on the market.

#4 Posted by Aidenfury19 (2488 posts) -

That guy again? If I'm not mistaken, he posted prior to the reveal and almost everything he said was wrong.

The thing is that even if the XBONE is using GCN2.0 or 1.5 (which is what the PS4 is seen as in ways) then it would still be news, because Microsoft has not to the best of my knowledge gone into any depth at all with the hardware. We only know the kind of customizations that the PS4's GPU has because Sony discussed them explicitly.

It's a whole lot of speculation without much basis and for the argument provided to be true you'd have to assume that they're doing around 3x as much work per flop as with GCN, which I'd say is a near impossibility if that is a measure of overall performance.

EDIT: Yep, having read more the guy is so full of shit it must be seeping out of his fingertips as he types.

#5 Posted by clyde46 (46997 posts) -
And? My GTX 580 had 3 billion and its now two gens behind.
#6 Posted by CallOfDutyRulez (1616 posts) -

That guy again? If I'm not mistaken, he posted prior to the reveal and almost everything he said was wrong.

The thing is that even if the XBONE is using GCN2.0 or 1.5 (which is what the PS4 is seen as in ways) then it would still be news, because Microsoft has not to the best of my knowledge gone into any depth at all with the hardware. We only know the kind of customizations that the PS4's GPU has because Sony discussed them explicitly.

It's a whole lot of speculation without much basis and for the argument provided to be true you'd have to assume that they're doing around 3x as much work per flop as with GCN, which I'd say is a near impossibility if that is a measure of overall performance.

Aidenfury19

A butthurt hermit appears.

#7 Posted by stereointegrity (10763 posts) -
lol no
#8 Posted by lostrib (40000 posts) -

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

dafuq is this shit?

CallOfDutyRulez

Is the tech info too compelx for your small hermit brain?

The xbox ONE is stronger than the strongest gaming PC on the market.

no

it's more that you apparently pulled it from a livejournal

#9 Posted by Ribnarak (2298 posts) -

CallOfDutyRulez thread lolz

#10 Posted by CallOfDutyRulez (1616 posts) -

And? My GTX 580 had 3 billion and its now two gens behind.clyde46

Older architecture... The xbox ONE is clearly 5 years ahead of the best gaming PCs.

#11 Posted by ninjapirate2000 (3177 posts) -
Lol Sonysexual thread.
#12 Posted by KarateeeChop (4666 posts) -

wow, Microsoft is truly amazing. we probably won't see technology like this from any other company for at least 3 decades. 

#13 Posted by clyde46 (46997 posts) -
8GB of RAM + 4GB Stacked on top? Wut.
#14 Posted by CallOfDutyRulez (1616 posts) -

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

dafuq is this shit?

lostrib

Is the tech info too compelx for your small hermit brain?

The xbox ONE is stronger than the strongest gaming PC on the market.

no

it's more that you apparently pulled it from a livejournal

So, how does it feel that you paid $10,000 for a multiplat machine with worse graphics than a $500 xbox ONE?

#15 Posted by Aidenfury19 (2488 posts) -

[QUOTE="Aidenfury19"]

That guy again? If I'm not mistaken, he posted prior to the reveal and almost everything he said was wrong.

The thing is that even if the XBONE is using GCN2.0 or 1.5 (which is what the PS4 is seen as in ways) then it would still be news, because Microsoft has not to the best of my knowledge gone into any depth at all with the hardware. We only know the kind of customizations that the PS4's GPU has because Sony discussed them explicitly.

It's a whole lot of speculation without much basis and for the argument provided to be true you'd have to assume that they're doing around 3x as much work per flop as with GCN, which I'd say is a near impossibility if that is a measure of overall performance.

CallOfDutyRulez

A butthurt hermit appears.

So you haven't seen my game collection then? My profile isn't private you know.

#16 Posted by clyde46 (46997 posts) -

[QUOTE="clyde46"]And? My GTX 580 had 3 billion and its now two gens behind.CallOfDutyRulez

Older architecture... The xbox ONE is clearly 5 years ahead of the best gaming PCs.

APU's are not 5 years ahead.
#17 Posted by clyde46 (46997 posts) -

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

Is the tech info too compelx for your small hermit brain?

The xbox ONE is stronger than the strongest gaming PC on the market.

CallOfDutyRulez

no

it's more that you apparently pulled it from a livejournal

So, how does it feel that you paid $10,000 for a multiplat machine with worse graphics than a $500 xbox ONE?

10G for a gaming rig? Dam thats cheap yo!
#18 Posted by Aidenfury19 (2488 posts) -

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"]And? My GTX 580 had 3 billion and its now two gens behind.clyde46

Older architecture... The xbox ONE is clearly 5 years ahead of the best gaming PCs.

APU's are not 5 years ahead.

Lets just stop posting, this is clearly a parody thread started by a parody account.

#19 Posted by CallOfDutyRulez (1616 posts) -

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"]And? My GTX 580 had 3 billion and its now two gens behind.clyde46

Older architecture... The xbox ONE is clearly 5 years ahead of the best gaming PCs.

APU's are not 5 years ahead.

Read misterxmedia's post. There is an AMD 88xx series GPU (2 OF THEM). With the new type of RAM, I doubt PC games can compete with the xbox ONE.

#20 Posted by clyde46 (46997 posts) -

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

Older architecture... The xbox ONE is clearly 5 years ahead of the best gaming PCs.

Aidenfury19

APU's are not 5 years ahead.

Lets just stop posting, this is clearly a parody thread started by a parody account.

Might as well. I should be asleep now. Why do all the lulz worthy threads appear at this time :(
#21 Posted by lostrib (40000 posts) -

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

Is the tech info too compelx for your small hermit brain?

The xbox ONE is stronger than the strongest gaming PC on the market.

CallOfDutyRulez

no

it's more that you apparently pulled it from a livejournal

So, how does it feel that you paid $10,000 for a multiplat machine with worse graphics than a $500 xbox ONE?

i wouldn't know

#22 Posted by Flubbbs (3395 posts) -

what does this mean Doc? we aint freakin scientists

#24 Posted by clyde46 (46997 posts) -

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

Older architecture... The xbox ONE is clearly 5 years ahead of the best gaming PCs.

CallOfDutyRulez

APU's are not 5 years ahead.

Read misterxmedia's post. There is an AMD 88xx series GPU (2 OF THEM). With the new type of RAM, I doubt PC games can compete with the xbox ONE.

My PC will still beat it.
#25 Posted by stereointegrity (10763 posts) -
its already known the ps4 is GCN 2.0 and im pretty sure xbone is somewhat
#26 Posted by MonsieurX (31168 posts) -
lol CallOfDutyRulez thrash thread
#27 Posted by CallOfDutyRulez (1616 posts) -

what does this mean Doc? we aint freakin scientists

Flubbbs

Microsoft tried to downplay their console's specs so that SONY gains momentum. SONY is there to keep google and Apple from entering the console market.

The xbox ONE actually has 8 GB of DDR3 RAM and 4 GB of a new type of RAM with 500+ GB/s bandiwdth. It also has 2 AMD 88xx series GPUs.

#28 Posted by super600 (30862 posts) -

Who cares?

#29 Posted by lostrib (40000 posts) -

[QUOTE="Flubbbs"]

what does this mean Doc? we aint freakin scientists

CallOfDutyRulez

Microsoft tried to downplay their console's specs so that SONY gains momentum. SONY is there to keep google and Apple from entering the console market.

The xbox ONE actually has 8 GB of DDR3 RAM and 4 GB of a new type of RAM with 500+ GB/s bandiwdth. It also has 2 AMD 88xx series GPUs.

no it doesn't

#30 Posted by clyde46 (46997 posts) -

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

[QUOTE="Flubbbs"]

what does this mean Doc? we aint freakin scientists

lostrib

Microsoft tried to downplay their console's specs so that SONY gains momentum. SONY is there to keep google and Apple from entering the console market.

The xbox ONE actually has 8 GB of DDR3 RAM and 4 GB of a new type of RAM with 500+ GB/s bandiwdth. It also has 2 AMD 88xx series GPUs.

no it doesn't

Just play along.
#31 Posted by CallOfDutyRulez (1616 posts) -

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

[QUOTE="Flubbbs"]

what does this mean Doc? we aint freakin scientists

lostrib

Microsoft tried to downplay their console's specs so that SONY gains momentum. SONY is there to keep google and Apple from entering the console market.

The xbox ONE actually has 8 GB of DDR3 RAM and 4 GB of a new type of RAM with 500+ GB/s bandiwdth. It also has 2 AMD 88xx series GPUs.

no it doesn't

Someone doesn't know how to read.

#32 Posted by stereointegrity (10763 posts) -
wait i just read that link....bit crock of shit is this
#33 Posted by lostrib (40000 posts) -

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

Microsoft tried to downplay their console's specs so that SONY gains momentum. SONY is there to keep google and Apple from entering the console market.

The xbox ONE actually has 8 GB of DDR3 RAM and 4 GB of a new type of RAM with 500+ GB/s bandiwdth. It also has 2 AMD 88xx series GPUs.

CallOfDutyRulez

no it doesn't

Someone doesn't know how to read.

Just writing something doesn't make it true

#34 Posted by harry_james_pot (11100 posts) -
1. Learn to format and make coherent posts. 2. laughing.gif
#35 Posted by Snugenz (12295 posts) -

The xbox ONE is stronger than the strongest gaming PC on the market.

CallOfDutyRulez

Not at all actually.

#37 Posted by freedomfreak (41879 posts) -
Ronvalencia does it better.
#38 Posted by lostrib (40000 posts) -

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

Microsoft tried to downplay their console's specs so that SONY gains momentum. SONY is there to keep google and Apple from entering the console market.

The xbox ONE actually has 8 GB of DDR3 RAM and 4 GB of a new type of RAM with 500+ GB/s bandiwdth. It also has 2 AMD 88xx series GPUs.

clyde46

no it doesn't

Just play along.

sometimes i like to give trolls really simple responses and see them try to twist around it

#39 Posted by CallOfDutyRulez (1616 posts) -

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

no it doesn't

lostrib

Someone doesn't know how to read.

Just writing something doesn't make it true

The numbers add up correctly with what was leaked.

#40 Posted by CallOfDutyRulez (1616 posts) -

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

The xbox ONE is stronger than the strongest gaming PC on the market.

Snugenz

Not at all actually.

AMD 88xx series GPU isn't released yet. Xbox ONE has 2 of them.

#41 Posted by clyde46 (46997 posts) -

[QUOTE="Snugenz"]

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

The xbox ONE is stronger than the strongest gaming PC on the market.

CallOfDutyRulez

Not at all actually.

AMD 88xx series GPU isn't released yet. Xbox ONE has 2 of them.

RROD V2 confirmed :lol:
#42 Posted by lostrib (40000 posts) -

[QUOTE="Snugenz"]

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

The xbox ONE is stronger than the strongest gaming PC on the market.

CallOfDutyRulez

Not at all actually.

AMD 88xx series GPU isn't released yet. Xbox ONE has 2 of them.

you mean the 8xxx series that is an OEM rebadge of the 7xxx series?

#43 Posted by Snugenz (12295 posts) -

[QUOTE="Snugenz"]

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

The xbox ONE is stronger than the strongest gaming PC on the market.

CallOfDutyRulez

Not at all actually.

AMD 88xx series GPU isn't released yet. Xbox ONE has 2 of them.

No it doesn't, stop making threads.

#44 Posted by Flubbbs (3395 posts) -

PC master race laughing at you peasents

#45 Posted by McStrongfast (4272 posts) -
Oh look, some random blog on the internet. This must mean everything posted on it is true and accurate. Establish the credibility of your source, dude. No point in even attempting to go get someone else to decipher all this poorly formatted nonsense otherwise.
#46 Posted by super600 (30862 posts) -

Don;t believe anything from that crappy site because of this.It's an anti PS4 blog for some reason now.

http://misterxmedia.livejournal.com/129107.html

#47 Posted by stereointegrity (10763 posts) -
this has to be the worst thread this month...
#48 Posted by clyde46 (46997 posts) -
[QUOTE="McStrongfast"]Oh look, some random blog on the internet. This must mean everything posted on it is true and accurate. Establish the credibility of your source, dude. No point in even attempting to go get someone else to decipher all this poorly formatted nonsense otherwise.

According to TC, nobody in the real world using citations.
#49 Posted by harry_james_pot (11100 posts) -

[QUOTE="Snugenz"]

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

The xbox ONE is stronger than the strongest gaming PC on the market.

CallOfDutyRulez

Not at all actually.

AMD 88xx series GPU isn't released yet. Xbox ONE has 2 of them.

Of course it does... :lol:
#50 Posted by McStrongfast (4272 posts) -
What the s*** is even going on on that blog?