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#151 clone01
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="Kaz_Son"]It's only baseless to silly lemmings that are lying and want to live in denial like yourself. Everyone knows that what lemmings on this site and other sites were saying.Kaz_Son
How am I "in denial?" And how am I a lemming? I play games. That's what matters to me.

:oops: Sorry friend, I mistook you for a lemming. My sincerest apologies.

No worries, man. I get mistook for that a lot since I refuse to drink any corporate KoolAid.
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#152 ronvalencia
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We have known from the outset that PS4 stomped the Xbone in specs.

Why are there still threads about it?

PS4 is more powerful.PERIOD.

What this actually means for games.........who knows.

OneInchMan99
It depends on the workload type. PS4 doesn't have 7950 class GPU for absolute X1 killer.
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#153 tormentos
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="Kaz_Son"]I really don't care lol, he can chose to believe what i say or not. :lol: You really think I'm gonna spend my time going through probably hundreds of pages of shitty SW posts just to own somebody on the internet? Davekeeh

Then why create a baseless argument?


xmialw.jpg

Just one of many posts made by Lems
It's funny how Lems expect us to find posts that are months old though, everyone knows Lems have said it, even you

 

hahahahaa....

 

That is some major own...:lol:

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#154 metal_zombie
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We have known from the outset that PS4 stomped the Xbone in specs.

Why are there still threads about it?

PS4 is more powerful.PERIOD.

What this actually means for games.........who knows.

OneInchMan99
close to nothing really maybe better textures or frame rates but nothing really noticeable though lemmings last gen made a huge deal about multiplats looking ever so slightly better on the 360 a big deal.
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#155 Chutebox
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PS4 is the stronger console, something we knew months ago.  Can we move on now?

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#156 Kaz_Son
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="Kaz_Son"]I really don't care lol, he can chose to believe what i say or not. :lol: You really think I'm gonna spend my time going through probably hundreds of pages of shitty SW posts just to own somebody on the internet? Davekeeh

Then why create a baseless argument?


xmialw.jpg

Just one of many posts made by Lems
It's funny how Lems expect us to find posts that are months old though, everyone knows Lems have said it, even you

:lol: Owned
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#157 wiiutroll
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="Kaz_Son"]:) How cute, this lem is still living in denial.metal_zombie
how am i living in denial? Xbox 360 has 958 games and show me evidence, that is not an IDC forcast, that the Ps3 has passed the 360

http://www.vgchartz.com/article/250980/playstation-3-lifetime-sales-overtakes-the-xbox-360/

stop using vgchartyZeHchP.jpg?1

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#158 tormentos
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It depends on the workload type. PS4 doesn't have 7950 class GPU for absolute X1 killer.ronvalencia

 

It has a gimped 7870 which is an absolute step abode a gimped 7790...:lol:

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#159 clone01
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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

[QUOTE="clone01"] Then why create a baseless argument?tormentos


xmialw.jpg

Just one of many posts made by Lems
It's funny how Lems expect us to find posts that are months old though, everyone knows Lems have said it, even you

 

hahahahaa....

 

That is some major own...:lol:

Garage door pumpkin water headphones cigarettes SOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! eltormo.
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#161 delta3074
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="Kaz_Son"]:) How cute, this lem is still living in denial.metal_zombie
how am i living in denial? Xbox 360 has 958 games and show me evidence, that is not an IDC forcast, that the Ps3 has passed the 360

http://www.vgchartz.com/article/250980/playstation-3-lifetime-sales-overtakes-the-xbox-360/

How did they seperate the PS2 and Ps3 numbers? SONY Combined PS2 ans Ps3 sales figures last year.
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#162 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="silversix_"]Massive amount of Lems butthurtness is coming from this thread hahaha. some were asking themselves why the hell is Forza a pre bakery machine, why DR3 looks like a 360 title, why Titanfail looks like a game released in 07-08 well, that's why, a juicy 7790 lolztormentos

 

Yep MS even admit that they have a 14 CU GPU that only has 12 working CU,that is basically admiting that the GCN is Bonaire.

They admit that memory reads are not 204GB/s but much lower 140 to 150 which i also suspect are rise intentionaly to give a best case scanrio.

Then how they try to downplay stronger ALU and power.? The samed company that make a parade about how powerful and great the xenos was on 2005,now more power means nothing.

And the new word for under power is balance,even that since February sony has been talking about how well balance the PS4 is,then the so call 15 processors..:lol:

8 audio.

4 DME which 2 are part of GCN if i am not mistaken.

and 3 decoders and encoders..

Is sad..

There's no point building 7870 GE and disable 8 CUs for consoles. It's better to build from 7790 and bring in 7850's internal bus.
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#163 Truth_Hurts_U
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Xbox One:

While I read many differing opinions on the ESRAM. The one sure thing is that the "peak" isn't sustainable or even achievable.

Your probably right that it will be around 60-75% of the "peak". That fast memory still has to wait for the slow memory. A bottleneck is created.

PS4:

You did get the bandwidth wrong. Those figures are for access to memory. While the GPU has full access, the CPU does not. While both are using the memory pool, one will get more access or less... Depending on the needs.

In other words memory bandwidth remains the same. Only access changes.

VS:

PS4 is still the stronger console. Even with the GPU and CPU uptick on Xbox One. Before that time, it was 33% faster. But we still don't know PS4 CPU speed.

Conclusion:

PS4's GPU is 27% faster. It's CPU is either slower or faster then Xbox Ones.

Given the less importance of CPU speed for graphics rendering. The preformance gap is in my estimate 25%, in favor of PS4... If the CPU is infact of less speed then XBox Ones.

Reversed, if found that PS4 CPU is 1.8 GHz or the rumored 2 GHz. The preformance will remain 27% or higher (29%).

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#164 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="metal_zombie"][QUOTE="delta3074"]how am i living in denial? Xbox 360 has 958 games and show me evidence, that is not an IDC forcast, that the Ps3 has passed the 360delta3074
http://www.vgchartz.com/article/250980/playstation-3-lifetime-sales-overtakes-the-xbox-360/

How did they seperate the PS2 and Ps3 numbers? SONY Combined PS2 ans Ps3 sales figures last year.

I thought PS2 was discountinued in January or around there? Also, lolvg!

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#165 delta3074
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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

[QUOTE="clone01"] Then why create a baseless argument?tormentos


xmialw.jpg

Just one of many posts made by Lems
It's funny how Lems expect us to find posts that are months old though, everyone knows Lems have said it, even you

 

hahahahaa....

 

That is some major own...:lol:

1 post by 1 user is hardly proof of what he is saying dude, he claimed multiple lemmings where making multiple threads about it, OWNAGE? you are going to have to do a lot better than that, thats not ownage at all dude.
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#166 deactivated-5d7fb49ded561
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#167 deactivated-5d7fb49ded561
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[QUOTE="tormentos"]

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]


Just one of many posts made by Lems
It's funny how Lems expect us to find posts that are months old though, everyone knows Lems have said it, even you

delta3074

hahahahaa....

That is some major own...:lol:

1 post by 1 user is hardly proof of what he is saying dude, he claimed multiple lemmings where making multiple threads about it, OWNAGE? you are going to have to do a lot better than that, thats not ownage at all dude.


I posted more. LOL

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#168 delta3074
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="metal_zombie"]http://www.vgchartz.com/article/250980/playstation-3-lifetime-sales-overtakes-the-xbox-360/Chutebox

How did they seperate the PS2 and Ps3 numbers? SONY Combined PS2 ans Ps3 sales figures last year.

I thought PS2 was discountinued in January or around there? Also, lolvg!

It was but they started combining the hardware figures before that I was avoiding saying lol VG, wanted to give the dude a chance:)
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#169 delta3074
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="tormentos"]

hahahahaa....

That is some major own...:lol:

Davekeeh

1 post by 1 user is hardly proof of what he is saying dude, he claimed multiple lemmings where making multiple threads about it, OWNAGE? you are going to have to do a lot better than that, thats not ownage at all dude.


I posted more. LOL

so 2 users with 2 posts , again, doesn't equate to multiple using posting multiple THREADS, Try Again:)
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#170 wiiutroll
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]How did they seperate the PS2 and Ps3 numbers? SONY Combined PS2 ans Ps3 sales figures last year.delta3074

I thought PS2 was discountinued in January or around there? Also, lolvg!

It was but they started combining the hardware figures before that I was avoiding saying lol VG, wanted to give the dude a chance:)

lol

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#171 Tighaman
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[QUOTE="tormentos"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]why are you so butthurt that you had to make an entire thread just to try and own another user, did rov get to you or something?wiiutroll

 

No i made a thread that owned several users..:lol:

 

so where is the owning?

Torm still talking out of his ass and thinking this is the same game going by old design and old ways. There's three blocks for the gpu and he just looks at the one block lol smh. Them move engines have one just for HARDWARE PRT not like ps4 with just the gpu can access but the rest of the hardware not made for it. 12cu is a balancing thing because more cpu cores + more cu= more chances of misses. Thinking 176GB are more sustainable than ESRAM+DMAs. Still don't know what's the other over 50 microprocessors for. Torm and his followers be killing me 40gbs for the onion bus lol you know its 10gbs bi-directional 20gbs r/w.
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#172 tormentos
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lol I remember them saying that, yes, and lol at you saying "noboady said that".  Wow really?  You may not have said it but it was said by A LOT of xbox fanboys here.  There is no way you could have not seen it so I see that statement by you as simple damage control.

casharmy

 

He is just a little emotionally down lately...:lol:

Just a few posted down already was quoted saying things like that,apparently Delta did not see it..:lol:

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#173 deactivated-5d7fb49ded561
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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]1 post by 1 user is hardly proof of what he is saying dude, he claimed multiple lemmings where making multiple threads about it, OWNAGE? you are going to have to do a lot better than that, thats not ownage at all dude.delta3074


I posted more. LOL

so 2 users with 2 posts , again, doesn't equate to multiple using posting multiple THREADS, Try Again:)


I said: Poor Lems, I still remember the day where they said Microsoft would spend so much money on them that they would have the best graphics this gen.

Poor Lem, that damage control is off the charts. There are more, but you won't stop damage controlling until I've given you a thousand examples.

You said nobody said it, so I already proved you wrong.

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#174 Kaz_Son
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21o64i9.jpg.

Davekeeh
delta3074 is so owned right now :lol:
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#175 metal_zombie
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[QUOTE="metal_zombie"][QUOTE="delta3074"]how am i living in denial? Xbox 360 has 958 games and show me evidence, that is not an IDC forcast, that the Ps3 has passed the 360delta3074
http://www.vgchartz.com/article/250980/playstation-3-lifetime-sales-overtakes-the-xbox-360/

How did they seperate the PS2 and Ps3 numbers? SONY Combined PS2 ans Ps3 sales figures last year.

Do xbox 360 numbers taking account for all the RROD sales?
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#176 delta3074
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="Davekeeh"]
I posted more. LOL

Davekeeh

so 2 users with 2 posts , again, doesn't equate to multiple using posting multiple THREADS, Try Again:)


I said: Poor Lems, I still remember the day where they said Microsoft would spend so much money on them that they would have the best graphics this gen.

Poor Lem, that damage control is off the charts. There are more, but you won't stop damage controlling until I've given you a thousand examples.

You said nobody said it, so I already proved you wrong.

Fair enough, you win:)
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#177 tormentos
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[QUOTE="wiiutroll"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"]

 

No i made a thread that owned several users..:lol:

 

Tighaman

so where is the owning?

Torm still talking out of his ass and thinking this is the same game going by old design and old ways. There's three blocks for the gpu and he just looks at the one block lol smh. Them move engines have one just for HARDWARE PRT not like ps4 with just the gpu can access but the rest of the hardware not made for it. 12cu is a balancing thing because more cpu cores + more cu= more chances of misses. Thinking 176GB are more sustainable than ESRAM+DMAs. Still don't know what's the other over 50 microprocessors for. Torm and his followers be killing me 40gbs for the onion bus lol you know its 10gbs bi-directional 20gbs r/w.

 

So where is the DGPU inside the xbox which you claimed to be.?

 

:lol:

So read and write only count when ESRAM does it cool...:lol:

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#178 wiiutroll
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="metal_zombie"]http://www.vgchartz.com/article/250980/playstation-3-lifetime-sales-overtakes-the-xbox-360/metal_zombie
How did they seperate the PS2 and Ps3 numbers? SONY Combined PS2 ans Ps3 sales figures last year.

Do xbox 360 numbers taking account for all the RROD sales?

lol you gone  in full panic mode?

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#179 delta3074
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="metal_zombie"]http://www.vgchartz.com/article/250980/playstation-3-lifetime-sales-overtakes-the-xbox-360/metal_zombie
How did they seperate the PS2 and Ps3 numbers? SONY Combined PS2 ans Ps3 sales figures last year.

Do xbox 360 numbers taking account for all the RROD sales?

thats neither here nor there, we are talking about sales, a sale is a sale, regardless of the reason for that sale. RROD rebuys=/= Combing the hardware totals of two completely different consoles=you FAIL hard dude:)
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#180 tormentos
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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

21o64i9.jpg.

Kaz_Son

delta3074 is so owned right now :lol:

 

Make the bad man stop make it stop...:lol:

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#181 Kaz_Son
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:lol: Now we know why Ryse is 900p @ 30fps
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#182 metal_zombie
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[QUOTE="metal_zombie"][QUOTE="delta3074"]How did they seperate the PS2 and Ps3 numbers? SONY Combined PS2 ans Ps3 sales figures last year.wiiutroll

Do xbox 360 numbers taking account for all the RROD sales?

lol you gone  in full panic mode?

http://www.dailytech.com/Retailers+Estimate+Xbox+360+Failure+Rate+High+as+33+Percent/article7892.htm
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#183 tormentos
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thats neither here nor there, we are talking about sales, a sale is a sale, regardless of the reason for that sale. RROD rebuys=/= Combing the hardware totals of two completely different consoles=you FAIL hard dude:)delta3074

 

So how many 360 do you have now and how many has pass by your hands,lets see if your honest.

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#184 delta3074
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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

21o64i9.jpg.

Kaz_Son
delta3074 is so owned right now :lol:

why are you jumping on the bandwagon claiming credit for other peoples work? you couldn't be bothered remember, kudos to Dav and Tormo, you can just crawl under a rock.
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#185 metal_zombie
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[QUOTE="Kaz_Son"][QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

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tormentos

delta3074 is so owned right now :lol:

 

Make the bad man stop make it stop...:lol:

sore winners
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#186 TheKingIAm
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It's funny how MS is charging $100 more for significantly weaker hardware. What a joke.
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#187 delta3074
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[QUOTE="delta3074"]thats neither here nor there, we are talking about sales, a sale is a sale, regardless of the reason for that sale. RROD rebuys=/= Combing the hardware totals of two completely different consoles=you FAIL hard dude:)tormentos

 

So how many 360 do you have now and how many has pass by your hands,lets see if your honest.

Why? that has nothing to do with the point at hand, we are talking about the combined totals of 2 consoles vs 1, we are talking sales figures, not the reason for a sale dude, try to stay in context dude:)
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#188 Kaz_Son
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[QUOTE="Kaz_Son"][QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

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delta3074
delta3074 is so owned right now :lol:

why are you jumping on the bandwagon claiming credit for other peoples work? you couldn't be bothered remember, kudos to Dav and Tormo, you can just crawl under a rock.

So much butthurt. It doesn't matter who owned you when in the end you were owned. Now run along you silly Lem.
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#189 wiiutroll
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[QUOTE="wiiutroll"]

[QUOTE="metal_zombie"] Do xbox 360 numbers taking account for all the RROD sales?metal_zombie

lol you gone  in full panic mode?

http://www.dailytech.com/Retailers+Estimate+Xbox+360+Failure+Rate+High+as+33+Percent/article7892.htm

i know  that,  it's sales both way, someone like the  console  enough or wanted to play a game that when it broke they got new one

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#190 delta3074
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[QUOTE="Kaz_Son"][QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

21o64i9.jpg.

tormentos

delta3074 is so owned right now :lol:

 

Make the bad man stop make it stop...:lol:

Bad man? you wouldn't know a bad man if he stood in front of you, i have suffered more punishment at the hands of my children dude, Grow up:)
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#191 delta3074
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="Kaz_Son"]delta3074 is so owned right now :lol:Kaz_Son
why are you jumping on the bandwagon claiming credit for other peoples work? you couldn't be bothered remember, kudos to Dav and Tormo, you can just crawl under a rock.

So much butthurt. It doesn't matter who owned you when in the end you were owned. Now run along you silly Lem.

why would i run along? you are still here and you have been owned multiple times,lol
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#192 Kaz_Son
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[QUOTE="Kaz_Son"][QUOTE="delta3074"]why are you jumping on the bandwagon claiming credit for other peoples work? you couldn't be bothered remember, kudos to Dav and Tormo, you can just crawl under a rock.delta3074
So much butthurt. It doesn't matter who owned you when in the end you were owned. Now run along you silly Lem.

why would i run along? you are still here and you have been owned multiple times,lol

;) Link and proof me being owned "multiple times"?
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#193 tormentos
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Xbox One:

While I read many differing opinions on the ESRAM. The one sure thing is that the "peak" isn't sustainable or even achievable.

Your probably right that it will be around 60-75% of the "peak". That fast memory still has to wait for the slow memory. A bottleneck is created.

PS4:

You did get the bandwidth wrong. Those figures are for access to memory. While the GPU has full access, the CPU does not. While both are using the memory pool, one will get more access or less... Depending on the needs.

In other words memory bandwidth remains the same. Only access changes.

VS:

PS4 is still the stronger console. Even with the GPU and CPU uptick on Xbox One. Before that time, it was 33% faster. But we still don't know PS4 CPU speed.

Conclusion:

PS4's GPU is 27% faster. It's CPU is either slower or faster then Xbox Ones.

Given the less importance of CPU speed for graphics rendering. The preformance gap is in my estimate 25%, in favor of PS4... If the CPU is infact of less speed then XBox Ones.

Reversed, if found that PS4 CPU is 1.8 GHz or the rumored 2 GHz. The preformance will remain 27% or higher (29%).

Truth_Hurts_U

 

Ok i go alone by your post.

 

Did you miss something.? yes you did.

 

The PS4 has 8 Aces 64 commend and a volatile bit is custom for using loss cycles never user and waste on GPU as compute power,the PS4 can run on its GPU compute with and graphics without compute hurting the graphics,that would make for the CPU up clock and them some,something the xbox one hasn't been confirmed to do without penalty to graphics.

 

 

 

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#194 delta3074
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="Kaz_Son"]So much butthurt. It doesn't matter who owned you when in the end you were owned. Now run along you silly Lem.Kaz_Son
why would i run along? you are still here and you have been owned multiple times,lol

;) Link and proof me being owned "multiple times"?

You self owned yourself in this very thread,you said the 360 had no games, it's a games console so clearly it does, it has 958 of them, everytime you have said it you have self owned yourself,lol
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#195 metal_zombie
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[QUOTE="metal_zombie"][QUOTE="wiiutroll"]lol you gone  in full panic mode?

wiiutroll

http://www.dailytech.com/Retailers+Estimate+Xbox+360+Failure+Rate+High+as+33+Percent/article7892.htm

i know  that,  it's sales both way, someone like the  console  enough or wanted to play a game that when it broke they got new one

yeah because they are going to give up on playing with their friends and sell all of their games not much of a choice. It does matter it means there's less consoles out there for people to buy games.

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#196 Kaz_Son
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[QUOTE="Kaz_Son"][QUOTE="delta3074"]why would i run along? you are still here and you have been owned multiple times,loldelta3074
;) Link and proof me being owned "multiple times"?

You self owned yourself in this very thread,you said the 360 had no games, it's a games console so clearly it does, it has 958 of them, everytime you have said it you have self owned yourself,lol

958 games consisting mostly of Kinect games and rehashes, no thanks. Where are 360's AAE-AAAEs this year? You owned yourself buddy, now go away and take your tears with you, you're drowning this thread with them.
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#197 tormentos
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Why? that has nothing to do with the point at hand, we are talking about the combined totals of 2 consoles vs 1, we are talking sales figures, not the reason for a sale dude, try to stay in context dude:)delta3074

 

You have your and the one you bought for your children that is what you told me on another argument.

Now you admited to have as much as 4 360 pass by your hand do to RROD,in another thread as well..

You are not been honest dude..

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#198 Douevenlift_bro
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Who cares about consoles when you can have a PC?GuNsbl4ziN
Oh Idk.several hundreds of millions of people who buy consoles every gen. Idiot

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#199 Douevenlift_bro
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Well then, this settles it.

This is most painful for the "they're all equa" appologists and on the fence fanboys.

Lemmings already knew the X1 was weak and underpowered, it's why they hype shit like being able to play PS4 through TVbox1 :lol:

All in all,

 

 

TLHBO.

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#200 bodde1972
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Guess they are going with a new PR schtick..."our console is the most balanced" WTF? :?

No thx MS Ill take the most powerfull console if you dont mind.