xbox one 5+ millions sold PS4 9 million.?

#151 Edited by blackace (19996 posts) -

@daious said:

@blackace said:

I'm not wrong. There are games that have sold over 3 million copies in one day on one platform. 2 million in 2-3 months on multiplats systems is nothing. Especially when the biggest amount of sales came within the first week. The Dark Souls series has always and will always be a niche market game. It's not going to sell 8-10 million units in it's lifetime. Neither will Bloodborne. Go back and do some more research.

You are wrong.

It isn't 2 million in 2-3 months. It was 1.3 million in 2 to 3 weeks in only EU and NA. Your logic that Dark Souls being a niche game is that it didn't sell as much as Forza and other franchises. You are comparing the lifetime sales of those franchises with the only sales number we know which is the sales of Dark Souls 2 in 2-3 weeks in two territories. Forza 4 is at 4 million. Forza 4 sold a little over 2 million in around 10-12 months which means DS2 blew it away in sales.

Niche market games are games that sell under a million. Dark Souls 2 proved that the series clearly no longer a niche market. You can spin the story as many angles you want but you are still wrong.

No I'm right. Where are you getting your figures for Forza 4 from? Give me a link. I'd like to see them. Also, Forza 4 isn't multiplat, so of course sales will be lower. If DS2 was only on the PS3 the sales would be under 1 million for 2-3 weeks. Which proves my point. Even as a multiplate, it's not going to sell more then 4 million over it's lifetime, just like Forza 4.

#152 Edited by Daious (1020 posts) -

@blackace said:

@daious said:

@blackace said:

I'm not wrong. There are games that have sold over 3 million copies in one day on one platform. 2 million in 2-3 months on multiplats systems is nothing. Especially when the biggest amount of sales came within the first week. The Dark Souls series has always and will always be a niche market game. It's not going to sell 8-10 million units in it's lifetime. Neither will Bloodborne. Go back and do some more research.

You are wrong.

It isn't 2 million in 2-3 months. It was 1.3 million in 2 to 3 weeks in only EU and NA. Your logic that Dark Souls being a niche game is that it didn't sell as much as Forza and other franchises. You are comparing the lifetime sales of those franchises with the only sales number we know which is the sales of Dark Souls 2 in 2-3 weeks in two territories. Forza 4 is at 4 million. Forza 4 sold a little over 2 million in around 10-12 months which means DS2 blew it away in sales.

Niche market games are games that sell under a million. Dark Souls 2 proved that the series clearly no longer a niche market. You can spin the story as many angles you want but you are still wrong.

No I'm right. Where are you getting your figures for Forza 4 from? Give me a link. I'd like to see them. Also, Forza 4 isn't multiplat, so of course sales will be lower. If DS2 was only on the PS3 the sales would be under 1 million for 2-3 weeks. Which proves my point. Even as a multiplate, it's not going to sell more then 4 million over it's lifetime, just like Forza 4.

The sales for DS2 is standard to well. It isn't an extreme mainstream success and it isn't niche.

Didn't Microsoft E3 conference last year open with Dark Souls 2?

#153 Posted by blackace (19996 posts) -

@blackace said:

@LJS9502_basic said:

LOL...telling him his figures are guesses while posting your own guesses.

At least I admit I'm making a guess. You idiots are thinking his guesses are fact. lmao!! Sony hasn't provided any updated sales figures yet. Don't be delusional.

5 million shipped still. Confirmed by MS. Xbone isn't selling well, so stores aren't buying any more.

Prove it. It was 5 million shipped is April. - http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/04/17/xbox-one-has-shipped-5-million-units

XB1 not selling well? Gamestop says otherwise: This is from June 11 - http://www.computerandvideogames.com/467938/xbox-one-without-kinect-flying-off-the-shelves-at-gamestop/

Looks like you've been proven WRONG. lol!!

#154 Edited by blackace (19996 posts) -

@daious said:

@blackace said:

@daious said:

I am pretty sure the Dark Souls 2 selling faster than any other Witcher title. Dark souls 2 (ps3/360) units sold in one month match what Witcher 2 on PC/360 did in a year.

Dark Souls series is not a niche market. Sales prove otherwise. Please do some research before posting next time.

I already did my research and the game is definitely a niche market game.

Do more research because no game that sells 1.3 million in only two territories in about 2-3 weeks should be considered a niche game. End of story. End of it. You haven't proved it otherwise.

I've already proved it. Stay in denial if you want to. That's what biased trolls usually do anyways. You have no clue what a niche market game is obviously. lol!! Come back when you've figured it out.

#155 Posted by Daious (1020 posts) -

@blackace said:

@daious said:

@blackace said:

@daious said:

I am pretty sure the Dark Souls 2 selling faster than any other Witcher title. Dark souls 2 (ps3/360) units sold in one month match what Witcher 2 on PC/360 did in a year.

Dark Souls series is not a niche market. Sales prove otherwise. Please do some research before posting next time.

I already did my research and the game is definitely a niche market game.

Do more research because no game that sells 1.3 million in only two territories in about 2-3 weeks should be considered a niche game. End of story. End of it. You haven't proved it otherwise.

I've alteady proved it. Stay in denial if you want to. That's what biased trolls usually do anyways. You have no clue what a niche market game is obviously. lol!! Come back when you've figured it out.

Your argument like always results in insulting and attacking users. Isn't that one of the things trolls do?

#156 Posted by Alcapello (652 posts) -

@blackace said:

@bublover1 said:

@blackace said:

@LJS9502_basic said:

LOL...telling him his figures are guesses while posting your own guesses.

At least I admit I'm making a guess. You idiots are thinking his guesses are fact. lmao!! Sony hasn't provided any updated sales figures yet. Don't be delusional.

5 million shipped still. Confirmed by MS. Xbone isn't selling well, so stores aren't buying any more.

Prove it. It was 5 million shipped is April. - http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/04/17/xbox-one-has-shipped-5-million-units

XB1 not selling well? Gamestop says otherwise: This is from June 11 - http://www.computerandvideogames.com/467938/xbox-one-without-kinect-flying-off-the-shelves-at-gamestop/

Looks like you've been proven WRONG. lol!!

"They went on sale in GameStop yesterday; these things started to fly off the shelves," senior vice president of merchandising Bob Puzon told GameSpot. "It's a huge win and a huge opportunity for us."

Lol.

"They went on sale in GameStop yesterday; these things started to fly off the shelves," Puzon told GameSpot at E3 today in Los Angeles. "It's a huge win and a huge opportunity for us."

Anyways....your links don't give any numbers, and don't really prove anything, at all.

#157 Edited by ReadingRainbow4 (13040 posts) -

@Chutebox said:

Whole lot of people attacking OP for no reason...

SDC tends to have that effect on some.

#158 Edited by ReadingRainbow4 (13040 posts) -

ITT: blackace has a meltdown.

#159 Edited by tonitorsi (8269 posts) -

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@Chutebox said:

Whole lot of people attacking OP for no reason...

SDC tends to have that effect on some.

I agree with this.

#160 Posted by blackace (19996 posts) -

ITT: blackace has a meltdown.

More like Daious is having a meltdown. I'm actually enjoying myself. lol!!

It's always a lot more fun being a "True Gamer".

#161 Posted by clone01 (24326 posts) -

Dat salezzzz warzzzzz.

#162 Edited by I_can_haz (6551 posts) -

I see a lot of people in this thread are still butthurt over PS4 demolishing Xflop in sales. No need to attack the OP, he's only reporting SDC.

#163 Edited by blackace (19996 posts) -

I see a lot of people in this thread are still butthurt over PS4 demolishing Xflop in sales. No need to attack the OP, he's only reporting SDC.

Both you and El Tormo are the biggest biased trolls on SW. Why would anyone listen to you idiots? All the OP does is attack lems. lol!! Both of you are a bunch of hypocrites.

#164 Edited by tonitorsi (8269 posts) -

@blackace said:

@I_can_haz said:

I see a lot of people in this thread are still butthurt over PS4 demolishing Xflop in sales. No need to attack the OP, he's only reporting SDC.

Both you and El Tormo are the biggest biased trolls on SW. Why would anyone listen to you idiots? All the OP does is attack lems. lol!! Both of you are a bunch of hypocrites.

This is coming from you.

#165 Posted by blackace (19996 posts) -

@blackace said:

@I_can_haz said:

I see a lot of people in this thread are still butthurt over PS4 demolishing Xflop in sales. No need to attack the OP, he's only reporting SDC.

Both you and El Tormo are the biggest biased trolls on SW. Why would anyone listen to you idiots? All the OP does is attack lems. lol!! Both of you are a bunch of hypocrites.

This is coming from you.

You're no better then them as well.

#166 Edited by tonitorsi (8269 posts) -

@blackace said:

@tonitorsi said:

@blackace said:

@I_can_haz said:

I see a lot of people in this thread are still butthurt over PS4 demolishing Xflop in sales. No need to attack the OP, he's only reporting SDC.

Both you and El Tormo are the biggest biased trolls on SW. Why would anyone listen to you idiots? All the OP does is attack lems. lol!! Both of you are a bunch of hypocrites.

This is coming from you.

You're no better then them as well.

Says you.

#167 Posted by blackace (19996 posts) -

@blackace said:

@tonitorsi said:

@blackace said:

@I_can_haz said:

I see a lot of people in this thread are still butthurt over PS4 demolishing Xflop in sales. No need to attack the OP, he's only reporting SDC.

Both you and El Tormo are the biggest biased trolls on SW. Why would anyone listen to you idiots? All the OP does is attack lems. lol!! Both of you are a bunch of hypocrites.

This is coming from you.

You're no better then them as well.

Says you.

http://www.seniorark.com/Humor/Pictures%20to%20Say%20Ahhhhh/After%203-13-09-done/dog%20sleeping.gif

ZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzz.ZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzz!!!!!

#168 Edited by tonitorsi (8269 posts) -

@blackace said:

@tonitorsi said:

@blackace said:

@tonitorsi said:

@blackace said:

@I_can_haz said:

I see a lot of people in this thread are still butthurt over PS4 demolishing Xflop in sales. No need to attack the OP, he's only reporting SDC.

Both you and El Tormo are the biggest biased trolls on SW. Why would anyone listen to you idiots? All the OP does is attack lems. lol!! Both of you are a bunch of hypocrites.

This is coming from you.

You're no better then them as well.

Says you.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzz.ZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzz!!!!!

How we all feel when you post.

#169 Posted by blackace (19996 posts) -

@blackace said:

@tonitorsi said:

@blackace said:

@tonitorsi said:

@blackace said:

@I_can_haz said:

I see a lot of people in this thread are still butthurt over PS4 demolishing Xflop in sales. No need to attack the OP, he's only reporting SDC.

Both you and El Tormo are the biggest biased trolls on SW. Why would anyone listen to you idiots? All the OP does is attack lems. lol!! Both of you are a bunch of hypocrites.

This is coming from you.

You're no better then them as well.

Says you.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzz.ZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzz!!!!!

How we all feel when you post.

You bored me to sleep and everyone else from the looks of it.

#170 Edited by Daious (1020 posts) -

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

ITT: @blackace has a meltdown.

There isn't a thread where hes not damage controlling or downplaying facts. The only thing (90% of the time) I do in system wars is call out people for making up things or stating bs. If only he would stop doing it over and over.

#171 Posted by tormentos (16720 posts) -

@blackace said:

@bublover1 said:

It's not even 5. MS confirmed that the 5 million figure was shipped. It's likely at 4.5 million. SONY is around 9.5 million.

Lems are butthurt about it and are damage controlling.

You do realize that the 9 million sale is just a guesstimate from the article creator right? lol!! That is not official numbers from Sony. Also, Microsoft's 5 million shipped was announced was announced back in April. It's July now, which means they are well over 5 million sold by now. A better guesstimate would be XB1 5-5.2 million and PS4 8-8.5 million sold.

As for the PS3 and XBox 360. Microsoft announced 84 million 360 sold at the E3. Sony is still at 80 million. They said nothing about their PS3 sales at the E3.

Yeah so how much by NPD has the xbox one sold since April.?

Because April + May the xbox one sold not even 200k,it sold 115k in April and 77k in May,they shipped 5million by April but like a million was unsold at retailers,this was a know fact.

Remember that then also came a report saying shipments of the xbox one would be lower because of the slow demand.? I would not be surprise to know that they still selling units from those 5 million shipped,without actually hitting 5 million sold.

#172 Posted by tormentos (16720 posts) -

@blackace said:

Prove it. It was 5 million shipped is April. - http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/04/17/xbox-one-has-shipped-5-million-units

XB1 not selling well? Gamestop says otherwise: This is from June 11 - http://www.computerandvideogames.com/467938/xbox-one-without-kinect-flying-off-the-shelves-at-gamestop/

Looks like you've been proven WRONG. lol!!

Yeah from those 5 million like 1 million was collecting dust at retailers.

Yeah on june 11 Gamestop claimed that the xbox one was flying off shelves,what do you expect them to say the xbox one isn't moving.? Dude it is on gamestop best interest that the xbox one sales pick up,they benefit directly from those sales,and gamestop making nothing from unsold xbox one collecting dust on their store rooms.

In fact in May the xbox one sold 77k which is horribly low,and while you may hold tied to the excuse of people waiting for the price drop,on April it sold 115k which isn't that much better either dude.

PS4 April numbers > XBO April+ May numbers that bad it is..

So yeah gamestop saying that mean little.

http://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-video-games/zgbs/videogames/ref=zg_bs_videogames_pg_3?_encoding=UTF8&pg=3

The fun thing about it is that now Amazon has the PS4 selling better than the xbox one,with a comfort distance in US which was not the case for such a distance some months ago,PS4 at number 9 spot xbox one $399 at spot 56 is not even close the xbox one is not even making it into the top 50,yet gamestop claim is flaying off shelves....

Didn't gamestop use to make sales for the xbox one and pulled tables on the main floor of their store to try to sell their xbox one stock.?

@blackace said:

@I_can_haz said:

I see a lot of people in this thread are still butthurt over PS4 demolishing Xflop in sales. No need to attack the OP, he's only reporting SDC.

Both you and El Tormo are the biggest biased trolls on SW. Why would anyone listen to you idiots? All the OP does is attack lems. lol!! Both of you are a bunch of hypocrites.

Hahahah DAT meltdown...

#173 Posted by LadyBlue (3927 posts) -

Impressive lead. I didn't expect it to be that big of a margin.

#174 Posted by StrifeDelivery (1318 posts) -

Wait is Blackace trying to pretend he is a "True Gamer"? Whatever that means...

#175 Posted by lostrib (32942 posts) -

@ladyblue said:

Impressive lead. I didn't expect it to be that big of a margin.

do we even know if the 9 million is legit?

#176 Edited by LadyBlue (3927 posts) -

Don't see any reasons not to trust tormentos.

@lostrib said:

@ladyblue said:

Impressive lead. I didn't expect it to be that big of a margin.

do we even know if the 9 million is legit?

#177 Posted by tonitorsi (8269 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@ladyblue said:

Impressive lead. I didn't expect it to be that big of a margin.

do we even know if the 9 million is legit?

If its outpacing PS1 and PS2, I wouldn't doubt its 9 million or more by now.

They're probably waiting for bigger numbers before going full Microsoft.

#178 Posted by ShoTTyMcNaDeS (1932 posts) -

Asked about bridging the gap between the two console's sales figures (Sony report 9 million units sold, Harrison says Xbox One's figure is "north of five million") he says: "Some analysts will suggest that we are less than 5% into this generation, so there is plenty of market opportunity ahead of us.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/microsofts-phil-harrison-xbox-one-kinect-ps4s-success-hats-off-sony-1455080

At least that is what Phill Harrison claim,sony close to double the xbox one sales.

The question has to be raised though how the sales of the X1 have increased since its repackaging without the Kinect and a $399 price point. Neither console has a lot in the way of exclusives in 2014 but I would expect both systems will pick up steam once Fall and the holidays get closer. With all of the nice multiplats and the likes of Halo The Master Chief Collection, Forza Horizons 2, Sunset Overdrive, Drive Club, TLoU Remastered and LBP 3 all on the horizon, 2014 shouldn't be a loss for either system. Arguing sales as a point of victory 8 months into these two console's lives is really lame and pointless. But whatever makes you guys sleep better at night!

#179 Edited by EasyComeEasyGo (446 posts) -

@blackace said:

@tonitorsi said:

@blackace said:

@tonitorsi said:

@blackace said:

@tonitorsi said:

@blackace said:

@I_can_haz said:

I see a lot of people in this thread are still butthurt over PS4 demolishing Xflop in sales. No need to attack the OP, he's only reporting SDC.

Both you and El Tormo are the biggest biased trolls on SW. Why would anyone listen to you idiots? All the OP does is attack lems. lol!! Both of you are a bunch of hypocrites.

This is coming from you.

You're no better then them as well.

Says you.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzz.ZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzz!!!!!

How we all feel when you post.

You bored me to sleep and everyone else from the looks of it.

Keep telling yourself that blackace.

#180 Posted by Stevo_the_gamer (42577 posts) -

Cows still obsessed over sales, I see.

#181 Posted by Shewgenja (8291 posts) -

Hail to the king, baby! Slaystation Domination Continuation!

#182 Posted by EasyComeEasyGo (446 posts) -

Cows still obsessed over sales, I see.

Not me. Gamespot has yet to report this news so I don't believe this not one bit until Sony says so.

#183 Posted by aroxx_ab (9204 posts) -

Safe to say Ps4 will sell 12Million in its first year, not bad...not bad at all. Like 1M each month :D

#184 Edited by delta3074 (17744 posts) -

@delta3074 said:

Remember when the PS3 was 'only' 4 million units behind the 360?

When the Ps3 was only 4 million behind the Xbox 360 the Gap was 'very small'

Now the Xbone is only 4 million behind the Ps4 it's a huge gap.

At 5 million the Xbone is still selling reasonably well but gotta admit that 9 million this fast is pretty good going for SONY, kudos to them,hopefully the PS4 can save SONY from there financial woes.

36 vs 32 3 and a half years into the gen,is not the same as 9 million vs 5 million 8 months into the gen...

Even % wise they are completely different 9 vs 5 is almost 2 to 1,36 vs 32 is not even close to that %.

Do % for both numbers and see what you get...

And ending like that is what really show your butthurt lemming ass for all to see,since you can't downplay the numbers you resort to bring sony financials Blackace style..hahahaha

4 million is 4 million, it doesn't become bigger or smaller according to which context you decide to use it in, if it was a small Gap Back then, it's a small Gap now, you can try to confuse the issue with bibble babble all you want sunshine, 4 million is the same now as it was then.

And i was being genuine when i said i hoped the PS4 helped SONY with there financial woes, the PS1 was my most fav console of all time dude and not all of us are spiteful and hateful toward Certain companys like yourself.

It shows the kind of person that you are that all you see is a negative from a completely positive and supportive statement.

You obviously cannot read people as well as you would like to think, there was no Alternative meaning to what i said, plain and simple.

Seems to me that you must be really worried about SONYs financial status if you read onto it like that everytime someone remotely mentioned SONYs finances.

Finally, Not a lemming dude, you can keep calling me one all day long and it will be no more true a statement today as it was yesterday.

Why would i be butthurt? i am not the one being a hypocrite,lol

#185 Posted by tormentos (16720 posts) -

4 million is 4 million, it doesn't become bigger or smaller according to which context you decide to use it in, if it was a small Gap Back then, it's a small Gap now, you can try to confuse the issue with bibble babble all you want sunshine, 4 million is the same now as it was then.

And i was being genuine when i said i hoped the PS4 helped SONY with there financial woes, the PS1 was my most fav console of all time dude and not all of us are spiteful and hateful toward Certain companys like yourself.

It shows the kind of person that you are that all you see is a negative from a completely positive and supportive statement.

You obviously cannot read people as well as you would like to think, there was no Alternative meaning to what i said, plain and simple.

Seems to me that you must be really worried about SONYs financial status if you read onto it like that everytime someone remotely mentioned SONYs finances.

Finally, Not a lemming dude, you can keep calling me one all day long and it will be no more true a statement today as it was yesterday.

Why would i be butthurt? i am not the one being a hypocrite,lol

Yes is does 4 million out of 9 is like 40%,4 million out of 40 million is not even close to 40%.

The gap is 4 million in 8 months when both console release on the same damn month,the xbox 360 gap was cut from nearly 9 million to 4 million in like 3 and half years,when the xbox 360 had a 9 million gap because of a year advantage.

So yeah the PS3 trailing 4 million 3 and half years latter on a 36 Million user base is not quite the same.

Well the only genuine thing you are here is a fanboy...

And you are a lemming.

#186 Posted by StormyJoe (4733 posts) -

@Indicud said:

@sts106mat: dat butthurt

why? I own a PS4 and a XB1 you muppet

Ignore people like that. There are so many cows in here with the brain power of an actual cow, it's ridiculous. Disagree with the proclamation of Sony's gaming dominance? You are "butthurt" - that's this gen's cow logic.

#187 Edited by StormyJoe (4733 posts) -

@delta3074 said:

4 million is 4 million, it doesn't become bigger or smaller according to which context you decide to use it in, if it was a small Gap Back then, it's a small Gap now, you can try to confuse the issue with bibble babble all you want sunshine, 4 million is the same now as it was then.

And i was being genuine when i said i hoped the PS4 helped SONY with there financial woes, the PS1 was my most fav console of all time dude and not all of us are spiteful and hateful toward Certain companys like yourself.

It shows the kind of person that you are that all you see is a negative from a completely positive and supportive statement.

You obviously cannot read people as well as you would like to think, there was no Alternative meaning to what i said, plain and simple.

Seems to me that you must be really worried about SONYs financial status if you read onto it like that everytime someone remotely mentioned SONYs finances.

Finally, Not a lemming dude, you can keep calling me one all day long and it will be no more true a statement today as it was yesterday.

Why would i be butthurt? i am not the one being a hypocrite,lol

Yes is does 4 million out of 9 is like 40%,4 million out of 40 million is not even close to 40%.

The gap is 4 million in 8 months when both console release on the same damn month,the xbox 360 gap was cut from nearly 9 million to 4 million in like 3 and half years,when the xbox 360 had a 9 million gap because of a year advantage.

So yeah the PS3 trailing 4 million 3 and half years latter on a 36 Million user base is not quite the same.

Well the only genuine thing you are here is a fanboy...

And you are a lemming.

Ahh... Tormentos logic. I have a caveat for you that ruins your point - there is no evidence of 360 owners jumping to PS4. Maybe 1 poll I saw once, but MS's 10-K report shows no significant drop of XBL Gold subscriptions (I seem to remember the number of subscribers actually going up). So, this could all just be a case of PS3 owners jumping to PS4 faster than 360 owners jumping to XB1.

#188 Posted by sam890 (1057 posts) -

@sts106mat said:

@Indicud said:

@sts106mat: dat butthurt

why? I own a PS4 and a XB1 you muppet

Ignore people like that. There are so many cows in here with the brain power of an actual cow, it's ridiculous. Disagree with the proclamation of Sony's gaming dominance? You are "butthurt" - that's this gen's cow logic.

#189 Edited by blackace (19996 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@ladyblue said:

Impressive lead. I didn't expect it to be that big of a margin.

do we even know if the 9 million is legit?

It's a guess. Only one who knows the true figures are Sony and Microsoft and neither one is saying anything right now. Cows running around SW having meltdown trying to claim this is a FACT. lmao!! El Tormo having the biggest meltdown of all the Cows. Just look at all that garbage text. Sony won't even tell anyone their PS3 sales. Xbox 360 over 84 million. Sony still at 80+ million.

#190 Edited by jsmoke03 (12600 posts) -

@sam890 said:

@StormyJoe said:

@sts106mat said:

@Indicud said:

@sts106mat: dat butthurt

why? I own a PS4 and a XB1 you muppet

Ignore people like that. There are so many cows in here with the brain power of an actual cow, it's ridiculous. Disagree with the proclamation of Sony's gaming dominance? You are "butthurt" - that's this gen's cow logic.

well lemmings are playing the "delusional grasping at anything they can" part this time around.

this is sw...you argue with facts. the more ppl dont take the defeat and start pulling arguments based off of "you guys are hypocretes" or "remember when" is POINTLESS.

a lot of you guys need to take a logic class cause the arguments here on sw are logical fallacies by cows and lems. no one fanboy faction is above another when it comes to sw

#191 Posted by Heil68 (43160 posts) -

PS4 is on a ROLL,

#192 Posted by blackace (19996 posts) -

Let me know when someone has an actual link from Sony & Microsoft with actual figures. lol!! Otherwise, just lock this thread now. It's just pure garbage.

#193 Posted by PAL360 (26628 posts) -

Good to see the most capable console being on top. Impressive numbers for every console though, even wiiu is looking interesting now! Competition is the reason why mid/late gen games look so good and polished.

#194 Posted by tacoma1972 (117 posts) -

Xbox One "North of 5 million".

Yeah probably 5,000,001

Xbox One is a joke, I mean look at it.

1.Poorly engineered

2.Over prieced

3. Kinect is Dead

4. Looks like a VCR (see item 1)

5. Massive power brick (see item 1)

6. Cant stand on its side (see item 1)

7. Cant recognize accents in some languages (see item 1)

8. Weaker RAM

9. Weaker overall (reason all multiplats look better on PS4)

10. But da cloud, da cloud (see item 1)

11. Getting raped in sales

12. Controller is worse than xbox 360's (see item 1)

13. Controller needs batteries (see item 1)

14. O/S that has need frequent updates to get on par with PS4

15. PS4 is the console of choice for game developers.

Now this list does not mean the the One is a BAD system. I play games not systems but let be real here. MS fucked up big time. I believe it was a rushed product. The PS4 is going to destory the ONE and early adopter Lems got screwed.

#195 Posted by delta3074 (17744 posts) -

Xbox One "North of 5 million".

Yeah probably 5,000,001

Xbox One is a joke, I mean look at it.

1.Poorly engineered

2.Over prieced

3. Kinect is Dead

4. Looks like a VCR (see item 1)

5. Massive power brick (see item 1)

6. Cant stand on its side (see item 1)

7. Cant recognize accents in some languages (see item 1)

8. Weaker RAM

9. Weaker overall (reason all multiplats look better on PS4)

10. But da cloud, da cloud (see item 1)

11. Getting raped in sales

12. Controller is worse than xbox 360's (see item 1)

13. Controller needs batteries (see item 1)

14. O/S that has need frequent updates to get on par with PS4

15. PS4 is the console of choice for game developers.

Now this list does not mean the the One is a BAD system. I play games not systems but let be real here. MS fucked up big time. I believe it was a rushed product. The PS4 is going to destory the ONE and early adopter Lems got screwed.

It's not poorly engineered though. the way a console looks and the fact that it cannot stand on it's side is not evidence of poor engineering, evidence of poor engineering would be the console having hardware issues which to my knowledge it does not.

Secondly, some of us prefer the fact the controller uses AA batteries, i know i do and finally, having a power brick is a bad thing why?

#196 Edited by bublover1 (129 posts) -

@delta3074 said:

@tacoma1972 said:

Xbox One "North of 5 million".

Yeah probably 5,000,001

Xbox One is a joke, I mean look at it.

1.Poorly engineered

2.Over prieced

3. Kinect is Dead

4. Looks like a VCR (see item 1)

5. Massive power brick (see item 1)

6. Cant stand on its side (see item 1)

7. Cant recognize accents in some languages (see item 1)

8. Weaker RAM

9. Weaker overall (reason all multiplats look better on PS4)

10. But da cloud, da cloud (see item 1)

11. Getting raped in sales

12. Controller is worse than xbox 360's (see item 1)

13. Controller needs batteries (see item 1)

14. O/S that has need frequent updates to get on par with PS4

15. PS4 is the console of choice for game developers.

Now this list does not mean the the One is a BAD system. I play games not systems but let be real here. MS fucked up big time. I believe it was a rushed product. The PS4 is going to destory the ONE and early adopter Lems got screwed.

It's not poorly engineered though. the way a console looks and the fact that it cannot stand on it's side is not evidence of poor engineering, evidence of poor engineering would be the console having hardware issues which to my knowledge it does not.

Secondly, some of us prefer the fact the controller uses AA batteries, i know i do and finally, having a power brick is a bad thing why?

A product is viewed "poorly" if another product within the same branch of consume products is better.

The PS4 cost less than $10 million in R&D, has a better controller, smoother UI, insanely better graphics, and costs less to manufacture. Not just that, it's small as fuck.

The Xbone cost $3+ billion in R&D, has a worse controller than the PS3, laggy UI, longass install times, graphics are barely better than last gen consoles, and costs more than the PS4 to manufacture. Furthermore, it's big as shit.

Now look me in the eye and tell me that the Xbone isn't poorly engineered without laughing. I dare you.

Microsoft has its tummy on the floor, is crying and is wailing its arms and feet on the ground. They lost everything they gained last-gen. All the XBL Gold money down the drain and the mindshare along with it. Microsoft feels like someone who just got raped. You know it and I know it.

#197 Posted by RnD_9 (79 posts) -

If they really did sell 9 million than that's damn impressive.

#198 Posted by blackace (19996 posts) -

Xbox One "North of 5 million".

Yeah probably 5,000,001 (More like 5.2-5.3 million)

Xbox One is a joke, I mean look at it. (Opinions vary. Gamers who own one love it.)

1.Poorly engineered (Engineered for the future. We still don't know everything that's in the XB1. Lots of NDA's for some reason.)

2.Over prieced (it's "priced" not "prieced". lol!! Yes, M$ should have priced it the same as the PS4 with Kinect in it.)

3. Kinect is Dead (Not Dead. Kinect games are still in development. Still being implemented in games by 3rd party developers as well.)

4. Looks like a VCR (see item 1) (VCR were actually smaller. PS4 looks like a giant Eraser. I don't like the design of either systems, but they both play games incredibly well. That's all that matters to most gamers.)

5. Massive power brick (see item 1) (Yup.. and it's there for a reason. What's currently running in the XB1 isn't even using all of the power of that brick. Soooo... why did M$ need the power brick?)

6. Cant stand on its side (see item 1) (There's no vertical stand for it, so why would you stand it on it's side? All consoles should be horizontal anyways.)

7. Cant recognize accents in some languages (see item 1) (Most of the language issues will be corrected when the XB1 launches in the other 30+ countries in Sept 2014. They have a patch that will correct enable accents of various languages to be reconized.)

8. Weaker RAM (Slower RAM, but not weaker. ESRAM is faster.)

9. Weaker overall (reason all multiplats look better on PS4) (Weaker when launched. System wasn't ready to launch as all the performance tools weren't in place. It's much better now with higher performance which will increase even more after DX12 is added and devs finally get to use the full version of the cloud and it's tools. Don't think there we be much of a gap next year. )

10. But da cloud, da cloud (see item 1) (Not fully implemented until 2015. This was noted by M$ last year.)

11. Getting raped in sales (Bad hype and a higher price will do that. remember the PS3? It was getting raped in sales last gen as well do to the same reasons.)

12. Controller is worse than xbox 360's (see item 1) (LMAO!! NO!! Everyone has their own opinion though. Gamers using the XB1 Controller love it. )

13. Controller needs batteries (see item 1) (Same as the XBox 360 controller. Batteries/Battery packs last longer then the PS4 battery charge.)

14. O/S that has need frequent updates to get on par with PS4 (System wasn't ready at launch time, so many updates were needed to get it to the launch level it would have been at. System wasn't suppose to launch until Sept 2014. Microsoft should have just delayed it until Sept 2014, but they didn't want the PS4 to have almost a 1 year lead. )

15. PS4 is the console of choice for game developers. (Which is why game developers are steadily make 3rd party games for the XBox One as well. lol!! Maybe you are thinking about the Wii U, are 3rd Party developers are avoiding that system like the plague so far.

Now this list does not mean the the One is a BAD system. I play games not systems but let be real here. MS fucked up big time. I believe it was a rushed product. The PS4 is going to destory the ONE and early adopter Lems got screwed.

Both systems were rushed. Why do you think the PS4 had a patch day one just to allow Blu-Ray movies to be played and a dozen other things. The Ps4 was more ready than the XB1 however and with M$ having to reverse their policies, that delayed them even more with the XB1. The PS2 & Wii destroyed the other consoles. I doubt the PS4 will even sell close to the PS2 numbers. It's still way to early to know anything.

#199 Posted by blackace (19996 posts) -

@delta3074 said:

It's not poorly engineered though. the way a console looks and the fact that it cannot stand on it's side is not evidence of poor engineering, evidence of poor engineering would be the console having hardware issues which to my knowledge it does not.

Secondly, some of us prefer the fact the controller uses AA batteries, i know i do and finally, having a power brick is a bad thing why?

A product is viewed "poorly" if another product within the same branch of consume products is better.

The PS4 cost less than $10 million in R&D, has a better controller, smoother UI, insanely better graphics, and costs less to manufacture. Not just that, it's small as fuck.

The Xbone cost $3+ billion in R&D, has a worse controller than the PS3, laggy UI, longass install times, graphics are barely better than last gen consoles, and costs more than the PS4 to manufacture. Furthermore, it's big as shit.

Now look me in the eye and tell me that the Xbone isn't poorly engineered without laughing. I dare you.

Microsoft has its tummy on the floor, is crying and is wailing its arms and feet on the ground. They lost everything they gained last-gen. All the XBL Gold money down the drain and the mindshare along with it. Microsoft feels like someone who just got raped. You know it and I know it.

LMAO!! NO!!. The Xbox One isn't poorly engineered at all. It just didn't have all the tools and drivers in place when the console launched. Where are you getting your figures from? You ass? LOL!! The XBox One controller is better then the PS3 and PS4 controller. The XBox 360 controller is better as well. You don't own an XB1 obviously, so you have no clue. I own the PS4, XB1, PS3 and XBox 360. I know all the pros and cons for all these controllers. The PS4 controller was improved over the PS3, yes, but it still isn't as comfortable as the XB1 contoller. The UI for the PS4 and XB1 suck. XBox 360 UI is still the best out of all 4 consoles. It's lightning fast. Graphics are a lot better then last gen. You're obviously a clueless troll. Go back under your bridge.

#200 Posted by Chutebox (36396 posts) -

We still don't know everything in X1? Stop it. It's been open and diagnosed lol.