xbox one 5+ millions sold PS4 9 million.?

#1 Posted by tormentos (16441 posts) -
#2 Posted by Salt_The_Fries (8145 posts) -

Taken from a topic created on SW in February 2008, remember those days, TC?

Seriously you guys have to agree! I'm not being sarcastic either, I'm SERIOUS! Ever since the first article titled "360 in distant third by 2010" or whatever the year was, Sony fanboys got all riled up about Sony making some magical comeback that would make PS3's sales go up dramatically and overrun the Wii and 360's, even when they were extremely far behind. (at the time Sony was doing very poorly in sales while 360's was steady and Wii demand was very high, like now) Once one of the analysts said "We see the 360 in third, the Wii in second, and the PS3 taking over" Sony fanboys got all "SONY WILL SO WIN THIS WAR" or "SONY WILL COME BACK AND CRUSH COMPETITION" stuff like that, thanks to that one quote, and to others about PS3 somehow winning the console war. Its what made the "wait and see" thing we've seen for song long, don't you see?? They're the reasons why we see on this board threads about radical and stupid Sony fanboys raving about some magical comeback that Sony would pull.

Well let's see, the 360's probably at about 17.8-18 million sales worldwide now, Wii at 19-20 million, and the PS3 at 8 million (estimated guess, maybe a bit higher) I don't see how PS3 could overrun those sales when its got about 10 million more units to outpass the 360 and 11 million to outdue the Wii. Reality will set in, and Sony's going to have a hard time catching up that high. Not saying they can't reach those numbers, but to surpass them this year or next will be a lot of work, even if krapzone 2 and Metal Gear Solid flop will be around.So what they said is a pretty odd estimate, because Sony can't take over being as far behind as they are now, unless sales for the 360 and Wii somehow stop magically and everyone turns to PS3.

Just tomake this simple, biased analyst remarks are what made Sony fanboys go ape**** with their comeback and "just wait andsee, we will dominate you ALL" threads. That one quote onPS3 taking over started this whole thing, or at least other ones saying Sony will take down competitionby2012. Its pretty hard to see that with sales right nowimo, even with 4 years left, but with sales going the way they are, and whenWii demand will be fixed when the shortage is, and when SSBB hits, it could get VERY tough for Sony to outdue the Wii, and whoknows about 360.All i'm saying is, Analysts likethe ones we've heard about made Sonyradicals' "wait and see" and "SONY WILL OWN YOU ALL" threads, and thats probably the truth. If not, well what did?ANSWER THAT FOR ME SONYRADICALS!!

#3 Posted by Desmonic (12659 posts) -

When has Sony reported 9 million? Last official announcement was 7 million. Obviously it should be higher (for both) now, but we've no actual confirmation...

#4 Posted by -Damien- (5106 posts) -

Almost double!! TLHBO!

Playstation Nation Domination Continuation

#5 Posted by Salt_The_Fries (8145 posts) -

Sony ponies jerking off imminent in 3..2..1..

#6 Edited by SecretPolice (21197 posts) -

Sick pups indeed, weird'dooooos.

#7 Edited by Indicud (739 posts) -

Sony won

#8 Edited by sts106mat (18758 posts) -

Reporting live for Sony TV it's....Eltormo!

#10 Edited by sts106mat (18758 posts) -
#11 Posted by Sollet (7207 posts) -

I see fanboys from both sides already at it. Good good *eats popcorn*

#12 Posted by donalbane (16139 posts) -

If you want to 'win', get all the platforms and focus on the games.

#13 Posted by AzatiS (6986 posts) -

@Indicud said:

@sts106mat: dat butthurt

why? I own a PS4 and a XB1 you muppet

Doesnt matter what you own when you clearly favoring XB1 out of nowhere . Muppet!

#14 Posted by Macutchi (3936 posts) -

If you want to 'win', get all the platforms and focus on the games.

shell out £1000+ to play a handful of semi-decent games? not what i'd call a win

#15 Edited by remiks00 (1533 posts) -

Taken from a topic created on SW in February 2008, remember those days, TC?

Seriously you guys have to agree! I'm not being sarcastic either, I'm SERIOUS! Ever since the first article titled "360 in distant third by 2010" or whatever the year was, Sony fanboys got all riled up about Sony making some magical comeback that would make PS3's sales go up dramatically and overrun the Wii and 360's, even when they were extremely far behind. (at the time Sony was doing very poorly in sales while 360's was steady and Wii demand was very high, like now) Once one of the analysts said "We see the 360 in third, the Wii in second, and the PS3 taking over" Sony fanboys got all "SONY WILL SO WIN THIS WAR" or "SONY WILL COME BACK AND CRUSH COMPETITION" stuff like that, thanks to that one quote, and to others about PS3 somehow winning the console war. Its what made the "wait and see" thing we've seen for song long, don't you see?? They're the reasons why we see on this board threads about radical and stupid Sony fanboys raving about some magical comeback that Sony would pull.

Well let's see, the 360's probably at about 17.8-18 million sales worldwide now, Wii at 19-20 million, and the PS3 at 8 million (estimated guess, maybe a bit higher) I don't see how PS3 could overrun those sales when its got about 10 million more units to outpass the 360 and 11 million to outdue the Wii. Reality will set in, and Sony's going to have a hard time catching up that high. Not saying they can't reach those numbers, but to surpass them this year or next will be a lot of work, even if krapzone 2 and Metal Gear Solid flop will be around.So what they said is a pretty odd estimate, because Sony can't take over being as far behind as they are now, unless sales for the 360 and Wii somehow stop magically and everyone turns to PS3.

Just tomake this simple, biased analyst remarks are what made Sony fanboys go ape**** with their comeback and "just wait andsee, we will dominate you ALL" threads. That one quote onPS3 taking over started this whole thing, or at least other ones saying Sony will take down competitionby2012. Its pretty hard to see that with sales right nowimo, even with 4 years left, but with sales going the way they are, and whenWii demand will be fixed when the shortage is, and when SSBB hits, it could get VERY tough for Sony to outdue the Wii, and whoknows about 360.All i'm saying is, Analysts likethe ones we've heard about made Sonyradicals' "wait and see" and "SONY WILL OWN YOU ALL" threads, and thats probably the truth. If not, well what did?ANSWER THAT FOR ME SONYRADICALS!!

I just love how they chose to ignore your post lol. fuckin cows man...I tell ya.

#16 Posted by -Damien- (5106 posts) -

@AzatiS said:

@sts106mat said:

@Indicud said:

@sts106mat: dat butthurt

why? I own a PS4 and a XB1 you muppet

Doesnt matter what you own when you clearly favoring XB1 out of nowhere . Muppet!

too many lemmings too coward to admit they're cheering for the loser xbone and hiding behind the 'multiplatform owner' label

#17 Edited by SecretPolice (21197 posts) -

#18 Posted by blue_hazy_basic (27206 posts) -

You might swing it 1/2 a mil each way but numbers probably not a mile off. Lets just wait for real numbers, eh? Remember last gen when guesstimates turned out wrong EVERY time.

#20 Edited by tormentos (16441 posts) -
@remiks00 said:

I just love how they chose to ignore your post lol. fuckin cows man...I tell ya.

So what did he accomplish with his post.?

To illustrate how MS failed to capitalize everywhere outside EU and UK and loss for it?

Or the fact that the PS brand was strong enough to survive a $600 launch a year late,and still tied with MS for second because of MS inability to capitalize any where outside US or UK.?

How is that even close to what is happening this gen.?

#21 Edited by DEadliNE-Zero0 (637 posts) -

@tormentos said:

@Macutchi said:

@donalbane said:

If you want to 'win', get all the platforms and focus on the games.

shell out £1000+ to play a handful of semi-decent games? not what i'd call a win

And the butthurt hermit arrives.

What? And why would hermits be butthurt?

#22 Posted by stereointegrity (10677 posts) -

Lems in full damage control... Cows in full brag mode

#23 Edited by HalcyonScarlet (3768 posts) -

When the difference is 10M-15M, I think it'll be a bigger deal.

MS has had a slow start, they made changes and will continue to make changes. The cows painted a bleak picture that the X1 would be dead on arrival and it never happened and MS reacted to negative things much quicker than anyone else in the console industry and is starting to improve. So the results aren't instant, but they are starting to show. It is a marathon and not a sprint.

I do expect the PS4 to maintain the lead, but I don't expect the gap to be major.

The cows are delusional if they think that these early statistics are the be all and end all of the entire gen. Anything can happen and MS do best in second place fighting tooth and nail. It's the one in front that becomes complacent, it's always been the case. And that's usually the same for everyone from market leaders to political parties.

#24 Edited by Shewgenja (7931 posts) -

Stings, don't it Lems?

#25 Posted by chikenfriedrice (9390 posts) -

@-Damien- said:

@AzatiS said:

@sts106mat said:

@Indicud said:

@sts106mat: dat butthurt

why? I own a PS4 and a XB1 you muppet

Doesnt matter what you own when you clearly favoring XB1 out of nowhere . Muppet!

too many lemmings too coward to admit they're cheering for the loser xbone and hiding behind the 'multiplatform owner' label

I'm cheering for the X1....it's a great console and I have enjoyed it way more than my PS4. Not afraid to admit that at all!

#26 Posted by APiranhaAteMyVa (2845 posts) -

"Sony report 9 million units sold"

Quick Google search and every site with this article refers to ibtimes website as a source. No official confirmation, although I wouldn't be surprised if it is around 8.5-9 million.

There is like a 3 million gap between the two, nothing too extreme at the moment. I expect the PS4 to outsell the Xbone in the end, but I don't think it will be a PS2 vs Xbox/Gamecube outcome. Likely a 10-15 million difference, if this gen is 5-6 years, which I can see it being then it will be about 70 million for the PS4 and 55-60 million for the Xbone.

#27 Posted by scottpsfan14 (2357 posts) -

@-Damien- said:

Almost double!! TLHBO!

Playstation Nation Domination Continuation

Hashtag!

#28 Posted by scottpsfan14 (2357 posts) -

@-Damien- said:

@AzatiS said:

@sts106mat said:

@Indicud said:

@sts106mat: dat butthurt

why? I own a PS4 and a XB1 you muppet

Doesnt matter what you own when you clearly favoring XB1 out of nowhere . Muppet!

too many lemmings too coward to admit they're cheering for the loser xbone and hiding behind the 'multiplatform owner' label

I'm cheering for the X1....it's a great console and I have enjoyed it way more than my PS4. Not afraid to admit that at all!

"bu..bu..but.. Weak XposBone is weak n haz no gamez!!1" And so the story goes.

#29 Edited by edwardecl (1776 posts) -

A 2:1 ratio is a big deal, it's big enough to mean that Microsoft will not be able to secure third party exclusives without insane incentives. It also means Sony could get some exclusives for free almost, there would certainly be a demand for indies and smaller studios to go with a PS4 only if Sony helps with the development and advertising in some way. Microsoft would have to offer to cover the lost sales for the PS4 which would be up to double their own sales plus whatever Sony would offer which is a big deal.

If Sony plays their cards right they could use this advantage to widen the gap even more.

#30 Posted by chikenfriedrice (9390 posts) -

@chikenfriedrice said:

@-Damien- said:

@AzatiS said:

@sts106mat said:

@Indicud said:

@sts106mat: dat butthurt

why? I own a PS4 and a XB1 you muppet

Doesnt matter what you own when you clearly favoring XB1 out of nowhere . Muppet!

too many lemmings too coward to admit they're cheering for the loser xbone and hiding behind the 'multiplatform owner' label

I'm cheering for the X1....it's a great console and I have enjoyed it way more than my PS4. Not afraid to admit that at all!

"bu..bu..but.. Weak XposBone is weak n haz no gamez!!1" And so the story goes.

Some stories are fiction

#31 Edited by dotWithShoes (4797 posts) -

@-Damien- said:

Almost double!! TLHBO!

Playstation Nation Domination Continuation

Hashtag!

Its funny, only when Sony is 'winning' the sales war, do sales actually matter.

#32 Posted by scottpsfan14 (2357 posts) -

Its funny, only when Sony is 'winning' the sales war, do sales actually matter.

But SONY are winning. Don't you get it? They're winning. PS2 days domination is happening!! This can only mean good things dotWithShoes!!

#33 Posted by scottpsfan14 (2357 posts) -

@scottpsfan14 said:
@chikenfriedrice said:

@-Damien- said:

@AzatiS said:

@sts106mat said:

@Indicud said:

@sts106mat: dat butthurt

why? I own a PS4 and a XB1 you muppet

Doesnt matter what you own when you clearly favoring XB1 out of nowhere . Muppet!

too many lemmings too coward to admit they're cheering for the loser xbone and hiding behind the 'multiplatform owner' label

I'm cheering for the X1....it's a great console and I have enjoyed it way more than my PS4. Not afraid to admit that at all!

"bu..bu..but.. Weak XposBone is weak n haz no gamez!!1" And so the story goes.

Some stories are fiction

You mean like DX12 and teh Cloud? ;)

#34 Edited by chikenfriedrice (9390 posts) -

@scottpsfan14: Nah those are facts.....but how much will they help? That story is unfinished.

#35 Posted by Shewgenja (7931 posts) -

Its funny, only when Sony is 'winning' the sales war, do sales actually matter.

BWAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!

BWUH BWUH HUH HHAAAH BWAAHAH HHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

How long have you been coming to System Wars? EVERY MONTH's NPD thread has been a hullabaloo. People talking about Sony having to close shop because the PS3 was a commercial disaster (at least, a bit of that in 08, kinda died off a bit by late '09). There was even that rumor going around about two years ago that one of the big players wouldn't be returning for Gen8 and XBox fans went BONKERS claiming there would be no PS4. "Just look at the sales".

No, let's get real with this. Sales mattered. The biggest gamble almost every December since I've been here is whether or not each year would be the year that the PS3 overtook the XBox 360 in global sales. Every time a AAA game came out for the PS3, the cows would be salivating at a chance to outsell the 360 in NPD. EVERY single sales thread, the sheep would show up and be like "Oh, lol, still fighting for second place. That's cute."

Sales don't matter now? That is the warcry of defeatism. I'm sure the Sheep did it in Gen 6. I know some cows were saying it in Gen 7.. LORD knows the lems are trying to play that card in Gen 8. The truth is, sales matter. This board would probably lose a third of its thread count if they honestly didn't. People have been obsessed with sales here. Don't lie to kick it.

#36 Posted by SUD123456 (4349 posts) -

Asked about bridging the gap between the two console's sales figures (Sony report 9 million units sold, Harrison says Xbox One's figure is "north of five million") he says: "Some analysts will suggest that we are less than 5% into this generation, so there is plenty of market opportunity ahead of us.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/microsofts-phil-harrison-xbox-one-kinect-ps4s-success-hats-off-sony-1455080

At least that is what Phill Harrison claim,sony close to double the xbox one sales.

Harrison does not say that. The author of the article says 9M, which could easily be a mistake or typo as I am not aware of a recent Sony update beyond their last one at 7M.

Also, learn to read.

And LOL at less than 5% into this generation...that would imply a minimum 13-14 yr lifecycle based on the 8 months they have been out.

#37 Edited by blackace (19726 posts) -

Reporting live for Sony TV it's....Eltormo!

LMAO!! I'm the one who started that with Elmo. lol!! It fits him perfectly.

As for the article, there's no doubt the PS4 would be ahead. It had more positive hype, a lower price and launched in 30+ more countries then the XB1 did. How could it not be ahead?

Harrison is right with this.

"Hats off to Sony, they've had a great start; they have been in more countries and – to date, at least – at a lower price. We have announced a new Xbox One at a lower price; we go to 29 new countries starting in September."

I'm sure some of the gap will be closed in Sept, but Sony will probably lead the way more of this generation. I'm sure Microsoft cares more about owning the U.S. market then any place else. If they recapture that market they will be happy.

#38 Posted by Alcapello (508 posts) -

Taken from a topic created on SW in February 2008, remember those days, TC?

Seriously you guys have to agree! I'm not being sarcastic either, I'm SERIOUS! Ever since the first article titled "360 in distant third by 2010" or whatever the year was, Sony fanboys got all riled up about Sony making some magical comeback that would make PS3's sales go up dramatically and overrun the Wii and 360's, even when they were extremely far behind. (at the time Sony was doing very poorly in sales while 360's was steady and Wii demand was very high, like now) Once one of the analysts said "We see the 360 in third, the Wii in second, and the PS3 taking over" Sony fanboys got all "SONY WILL SO WIN THIS WAR" or "SONY WILL COME BACK AND CRUSH COMPETITION" stuff like that, thanks to that one quote, and to others about PS3 somehow winning the console war. Its what made the "wait and see" thing we've seen for song long, don't you see?? They're the reasons why we see on this board threads about radical and stupid Sony fanboys raving about some magical comeback that Sony would pull.

Well let's see, the 360's probably at about 17.8-18 million sales worldwide now, Wii at 19-20 million, and the PS3 at 8 million (estimated guess, maybe a bit higher) I don't see how PS3 could overrun those sales when its got about 10 million more units to outpass the 360 and 11 million to outdue the Wii. Reality will set in, and Sony's going to have a hard time catching up that high. Not saying they can't reach those numbers, but to surpass them this year or next will be a lot of work, even if krapzone 2 and Metal Gear Solid flop will be around.So what they said is a pretty odd estimate, because Sony can't take over being as far behind as they are now, unless sales for the 360 and Wii somehow stop magically and everyone turns to PS3.

Just tomake this simple, biased analyst remarks are what made Sony fanboys go ape**** with their comeback and "just wait andsee, we will dominate you ALL" threads. That one quote onPS3 taking over started this whole thing, or at least other ones saying Sony will take down competitionby2012. Its pretty hard to see that with sales right nowimo, even with 4 years left, but with sales going the way they are, and whenWii demand will be fixed when the shortage is, and when SSBB hits, it could get VERY tough for Sony to outdue the Wii, and whoknows about 360.All i'm saying is, Analysts likethe ones we've heard about made Sonyradicals' "wait and see" and "SONY WILL OWN YOU ALL" threads, and thats probably the truth. If not, well what did?ANSWER THAT FOR ME SONYRADICALS!!

Coming from the momentum of the PS3, the PS4 is only in a position for Full Steam Ahead. There is no stopping the juggernaut at this point, and there not much to play on Xbox either.

#39 Posted by SecretPolice (21197 posts) -

@blackace said:
@sts106mat said:

Reporting live for Sony TV it's....Eltormo!

LMAO!! I'm the one who started that with Elmo. lol!! It fits him perfectly.

As for the article, there's no doubt the PS4 would be ahead. It had more positive hype, a lower price and launched in 30+ more countries then the XB1 did. How could it not be ahead?

Harrison is right with this.

"Hats off to Sony, they've had a great start; they have been in more countries and – to date, at least – at a lower price. We have announced a new Xbox One at a lower price; we go to 29 new countries starting in September."

I'm sure some of the gap will be closed in Sept, but Sony will probably lead the way more of this generation. I'm sure Microsoft cares more about owning the U.S. market then any place else. If they recapture that market they will be happy.

lol tis funny... and yeah, don't forget, MS pwns Japan this gen to boot. :o :P

#40 Edited by Floppy_Jim (25417 posts) -

No such announcement for 9 mil exists, you silly internet. But if so, there's really no coming back from a near 2:1 ratio.

#41 Edited by Alcapello (508 posts) -

@blackace said:
@sts106mat said:

Reporting live for Sony TV it's....Eltormo!

LMAO!! I'm the one who started that with Elmo. lol!! It fits him perfectly.

As for the article, there's no doubt the PS4 would be ahead. It had more positive hype, a lower price and launched in 30+ more countries then the XB1 did. How could it not be ahead?

Harrison is right with this.

"Hats off to Sony, they've had a great start; they have been in more countries and – to date, at least – at a lower price. We have announced a new Xbox One at a lower price; we go to 29 new countries starting in September."

I'm sure some of the gap will be closed in Sept, but Sony will probably lead the way more of this generation. I'm sure Microsoft cares more about owning the U.S. market then any place else. If they recapture that market they will be happy.

lol tis funny... and yeah, don't forget, MS pwns Japan this gen to boot. :o :P

#42 Edited by SecretPolice (21197 posts) -

@SecretPolice said:

@blackace said:
@sts106mat said:

Reporting live for Sony TV it's....Eltormo!

LMAO!! I'm the one who started that with Elmo. lol!! It fits him perfectly.

As for the article, there's no doubt the PS4 would be ahead. It had more positive hype, a lower price and launched in 30+ more countries then the XB1 did. How could it not be ahead?

Harrison is right with this.

"Hats off to Sony, they've had a great start; they have been in more countries and – to date, at least – at a lower price. We have announced a new Xbox One at a lower price; we go to 29 new countries starting in September."

I'm sure some of the gap will be closed in Sept, but Sony will probably lead the way more of this generation. I'm sure Microsoft cares more about owning the U.S. market then any place else. If they recapture that market they will be happy.

lol tis funny... and yeah, don't forget, MS pwns Japan this gen to boot. :o :P

#43 Posted by Snugenz (11402 posts) -

@dotWithShoes said:

Its funny, only when Sony is 'winning' the sales war, do sales actually matter.

BWAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!

BWUH BWUH HUH HHAAAH BWAAHAH HHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

How long have you been coming to System Wars? EVERY MONTH's NPD thread has been a hullabaloo. People talking about Sony having to close shop because the PS3 was a commercial disaster (at least, a bit of that in 08, kinda died off a bit by late '09). There was even that rumor going around about two years ago that one of the big players wouldn't be returning for Gen8 and XBox fans went BONKERS claiming there would be no PS4. "Just look at the sales".

No, let's get real with this. Sales mattered. The biggest gamble almost every December since I've been here is whether or not each year would be the year that the PS3 overtook the XBox 360 in global sales. Every time a AAA game came out for the PS3, the cows would be salivating at a chance to outsell the 360 in NPD. EVERY single sales thread, the sheep would show up and be like "Oh, lol, still fighting for second place. That's cute."

Sales don't matter now? That is the warcry of defeatism. I'm sure the Sheep did it in Gen 6. I know some cows were saying it in Gen 7.. LORD knows the lems are trying to play that card in Gen 8. The truth is, sales matter. This board would probably lose a third of its thread count if they honestly didn't. People have been obsessed with sales here. Don't lie to kick it.

Moogenja is still deeply wounded from last gen, what a sad twat haha.

#44 Posted by drummerdave9099 (602 posts) -

I'm not afraid to say I've gotten much more enjoyment out of an Xbone so far then I have a PS4. Hoping Xbone pulls a comeback

#47 Edited by sam890 (1055 posts) -

#48 Posted by Alcapello (508 posts) -

I'm not afraid to say I've gotten much more enjoyment out of an Xbone so far then I have a PS4. Hoping Xbone pulls a comeback

Can't you see by this thread your opinion is insignificant!!

#49 Posted by sts106mat (18758 posts) -

@blackace said:
@sts106mat said:

Reporting live for Sony TV it's....Eltormo!

LMAO!! I'm the one who started that with Elmo. lol!! It fits him perfectly.

As for the article, there's no doubt the PS4 would be ahead. It had more positive hype, a lower price and launched in 30+ more countries then the XB1 did. How could it not be ahead?

Harrison is right with this.

"Hats off to Sony, they've had a great start; they have been in more countries and – to date, at least – at a lower price. We have announced a new Xbox One at a lower price; we go to 29 new countries starting in September."

I'm sure some of the gap will be closed in Sept, but Sony will probably lead the way more of this generation. I'm sure Microsoft cares more about owning the U.S. market then any place else. If they recapture that market they will be happy.

yeah, i remember that post, i nearly cried. He isn't elmo though, his name is "cousin pepe" or something the google gif search said. It does suit him perfectly. and to be fair to @tormentos he has embraced the character and sometimes uses it himself. I reckon he should change his GS avatar to it.

#50 Edited by Chutebox (36183 posts) -

Whole lot of people attacking OP for no reason...