Xbox live rewards are a a joke!

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#51 Posted by Phazevariance (11048 posts) -

[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="Jonwh18"]

L See this is what happens with PSN+, kids grow up to be spoiled self-entitled rotten brats. XBL builds character and humility, and is thus far superior.

[spoiler] XBL is a joke :lol::lol::lol: [/spoiler]

-Patrick_92-

You're forgetting the part where Sony takes all that stuff away from you as soon as you cancel the subscription. So in reality, you don't own any of it.

MS takes away your online play when your subscription ends...but that's okay right? I don't get to keep watching movies off Netflix when my subscription ends, why should I expect anything different with PS+?

PS+ is a great deal, it's not for everyone, but it is a great service.

Uh, when your 'gold' subscription ends you can still use Netflix with the free silver account. You still own all the games you bought on live.. have you ever used an xbox before with just silver membership?
#52 Posted by SectorSix6 (201 posts) -
[QUOTE="-Patrick_92-"]

[QUOTE="percech"] You're forgetting the part where Sony takes all that stuff away from you as soon as you cancel the subscription. So in reality, you don't own any of it.Phazevariance

MS takes away your online play when your subscription ends...but that's okay right? I don't get to keep watching movies off Netflix when my subscription ends, why should I expect anything different with PS+?

PS+ is a great deal, it's not for everyone, but it is a great service.

Uh, when your 'gold' subscription ends you can still use Netflix with the free silver account.

No, you cannot.
#53 Posted by getyeryayasout (8330 posts) -
I let my account lapse to Siver and was unable to use Netflix anymore. You get much less not paying for XBL, than not paying for PSN. You can't even use the 360's web browser unless you pay.
#54 Posted by Goyoshi12 (9687 posts) -

Better than 19 Microsoft Points.

#55 Posted by campzor (34932 posts) -
giving back to the "community"
#56 Posted by Killzonage (397 posts) -
[QUOTE="-Patrick_92-"]

[QUOTE="percech"] You're forgetting the part where Sony takes all that stuff away from you as soon as you cancel the subscription. So in reality, you don't own any of it.Phazevariance

MS takes away your online play when your subscription ends...but that's okay right? I don't get to keep watching movies off Netflix when my subscription ends, why should I expect anything different with PS+?

PS+ is a great deal, it's not for everyone, but it is a great service.

Uh, when your 'gold' subscription ends you can still use Netflix with the free silver account. You still own all the games you bought on live.. have you ever used an xbox before with just silver membership?

I don't think that you can use Netflix without Gold.
#57 Posted by Killzonage (397 posts) -

Better than 19 Microsoft Points.

Goyoshi12
This made me LOL
#58 Posted by Wanderer5 (25726 posts) -

Honestly why did Microsoft even bother with this, if the rewards are so ****ing small lol. I think the other two rewards were just 1% and 2% off permanently on anything.

#59 Posted by JigglyWiggly_ (23818 posts) -
they expire as well
#60 Posted by -Patrick_92- (2168 posts) -

[QUOTE="-Patrick_92-"]

[QUOTE="percech"] You're forgetting the part where Sony takes all that stuff away from you as soon as you cancel the subscription. So in reality, you don't own any of it.Phazevariance

MS takes away your online play when your subscription ends...but that's okay right? I don't get to keep watching movies off Netflix when my subscription ends, why should I expect anything different with PS+?

PS+ is a great deal, it's not for everyone, but it is a great service.

Uh, when your 'gold' subscription ends you can still use Netflix with the free silver account. You still own all the games you bought on live.. have you ever used an xbox before with just silver membership?

Netflix was just another example of a subscription service, comparing it to PS+, in the way that you don't get to keep the movies you get from Netflix or use their streaming service after your subscription ends with them, just like how you can't play the free games you get from PS+ when that subscription ends. I wasn't even saying anything about Silver membership and Netflix usage before, but since you brought it up, you're wrong lol. You have to have Gold to use Netflix, sad but true.

And of course you own the games you bought on Live, same goes for PS+. Anything you buy, even with the PS+ discounts, you keep, and yes even after your subscription runs out. Only the "free" games lock after the subscription ends.

#61 Posted by mems_1224 (48332 posts) -

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="-Patrick_92-"]They don't have to charge you for XBL either...but they still do. -Patrick_92-

its also the best online service on consoles this gen. just because sony took their head out of their ass the last 2 years doesn't negate the entire gen.

I'm just going to save you and myself some time and forget about this discussion, this arguement has been discussed far too many times by far too many people.

I'll say: Free > $60 for the same P2P servers

You'll say: Party Chat

I'll say: Still not worth $60 a year.

You'll say: haha PSN hacked!

I'll say: XBL has been hacked before too

And this will go just keep going in circles...like the rest of SW.

you're free to assume whatever you want but it doesn't change the fact that xbl has been the best and most consistent online service on consoles since last gen
#62 Posted by Killzonage (397 posts) -
As someone who has been on both services, besides party chat I really can't tell the difference.
#63 Posted by getyeryayasout (8330 posts) -
Notice the odd ammount, 20 points. Just enough for OCD gamers to have to buy more points so they can spend the odd 20 points away. I really wish MS would use real dollar ammounts, but they're d!cks so they won't.
#64 Posted by mems_1224 (48332 posts) -
Notice the odd ammount, 20 points. Just enough for OCD gamers to have to buy more points so they can spend the odd 20 points away. I really wish MS would use real dollar ammounts, but they're d!cks so they won't.getyeryayasout
yea, the MS point system is dumb but its not any different than charging $4.99 for something and then having that penny left over which is what they would probably do if they got rid of the point system.
#65 Posted by getyeryayasout (8330 posts) -
[QUOTE="getyeryayasout"]Notice the odd ammount, 20 points. Just enough for OCD gamers to have to buy more points so they can spend the odd 20 points away. I really wish MS would use real dollar ammounts, but they're d!cks so they won't.mems_1224
yea, the MS point system is dumb but its not any different than charging $4.99 for something and then having that penny left over which is what they would probably do if they got rid of the point system.

At least the penny is gone the next time ypu make a $4.99 purche. I've had 60 points on my XBL account, mocking me for the past two months. I've even considered buying avatar items just to make it go away, which is why it's set up that way. All game companies want our cash, but MS is so skeezy about it.
#66 Posted by LP4EVA2005 (8585 posts) -
lol they could at least give you just enough to actually buy something from the marketplace, like an avatar item, or something. And is that your E-card? if so happy birthday.
#67 Posted by spinecaton (8986 posts) -

Man that sucks, I was just given 467 MS points through Xbox live rewards. Atleast I can do something with mine.

#68 Posted by RyanShazam (6498 posts) -
Wait, I thought you couldn't use Netflix on a Silver account. Dont you have to be Gold?
#69 Posted by mems_1224 (48332 posts) -
[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="getyeryayasout"]Notice the odd ammount, 20 points. Just enough for OCD gamers to have to buy more points so they can spend the odd 20 points away. I really wish MS would use real dollar ammounts, but they're d!cks so they won't.getyeryayasout
yea, the MS point system is dumb but its not any different than charging $4.99 for something and then having that penny left over which is what they would probably do if they got rid of the point system.

At least the penny is gone the next time ypu make a $4.99 purche. I've had 60 points on my XBL account, mocking me for the past two months. I've even considered buying avatar items just to make it go away, which is why it's set up that way. All game companies want our cash, but MS is so skeezy about it.

i mean, MS is a crappy company and i dont really like supporting them but imo they have put out the best console this gen.
#70 Posted by silversix_ (15799 posts) -
LOL what the f*ck? High quality trollin right there.
#71 Posted by getyeryayasout (8330 posts) -
[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="getyeryayasout"][QUOTE="mems_1224"] yea, the MS point system is dumb but its not any different than charging $4.99 for something and then having that penny left over which is what they would probably do if they got rid of the point system.

At least the penny is gone the next time ypu make a $4.99 purche. I've had 60 points on my XBL account, mocking me for the past two months. I've even considered buying avatar items just to make it go away, which is why it's set up that way. All game companies want our cash, but MS is so skeezy about it.

i mean, MS is a crappy company and i dont really like supporting them but imo they have put out the best console this gen.

The 360 has been great this gen, I hate that I like it! :P
#72 Posted by skrat_01 (33767 posts) -
Yeah XBLG, the Dashboard and these schemes are a joke, that goes without saying. What astounds me is how Microsoft have torpedoed the service in the last few years, from the interface to the marketplace. They've managed to turn away customers and developers despite having it all in the bag at one stage. Classic Microsoft I guess.
#73 Posted by jg4xchamp (49885 posts) -
[QUOTE="skrat_01"]Yeah XBLG, the Dashboard and these schemes are a joke, that goes without saying. What astounds me is how Microsoft have torpedoed the service in the last few years, from the interface to the marketplace. They've managed to turn away customers and developers despite having it all in the bag at one stage. Classic Microsoft I guess.

RIGHT? There was a point where Microsoft had so many awesome systems in place. From the XNA stuff, to the way they handled arcade/indie games(besides the dev process), to their interface, and then god knows what the hell happened.
#74 Posted by Heil68 (46716 posts) -
20 MSP, thats saying something man...GulliversTravel
Lmao, 20 points.SaltyMeatballs

:lol: What's the point of that?

cain006
lolz
#75 Posted by Sagem28 (10498 posts) -

25 cents :lol:

#76 Posted by Stevo_the_gamer (43212 posts) -
I've got 260 reward points, I think. Will have another 400 on top of that when I cash in my Bing rewards.
#77 Posted by SecretPolice (23270 posts) -

In the good spirit of gift giving & receiving; isn't it the thought that counts? :? :twisted:

#78 Posted by Obviously_Right (5320 posts) -

[QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"][QUOTE="percech"] You're forgetting the part where Sony takes all that stuff away from you as soon as you cancel the subscription. So in reality, you don't own any of it.-Patrick_92-

Pretty sure you don't lose you downloaded PSN+ games when your superscription runs out, although I don't have a ps3 so I'm not sure.

The games you download for free you no longer can play until you renew your subscription. Everything else you keep, games you bought with PS+ discounts, avatars, themes, betas, and I believe DLC you get for free all stay without renewing your subscription.

Just puts into perspective how crap XBLG actually is.

#79 Posted by skrat_01 (33767 posts) -

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]Yeah XBLG, the Dashboard and these schemes are a joke, that goes without saying. What astounds me is how Microsoft have torpedoed the service in the last few years, from the interface to the marketplace. They've managed to turn away customers and developers despite having it all in the bag at one stage. Classic Microsoft I guess.jg4xchamp
RIGHT? There was a point where Microsoft had so many awesome systems in place. From the XNA stuff, to the way they handled arcade/indie games(besides the dev process), to their interface, and then god knows what the hell happened.

Gosh, they really really did. XBLA was the most attractive place for any sort of developer to sell their stuff, XNA was an absolutely wonderful kit - and still is great (yet they've nuked support for it), and there was the promising placement of the indie channel. The Dashboard with its blades was fast and easy to use, and the ease of use, and focus on game content made the XBLG price tag digestible even for a bastard like me.And then yeah, they sunk it.

Word has it that everyone involved in the Xbox 360's development, who was a major decision maker, up until 2007 is gone; those were people who put tons of love and care into making the best games console possible, and were given free reign to make it happen, and it damn well worked. And then things changed, management and direction and the transition to what the console is today happened. Mind you this is all from what I've heard on podcasts, like Giant Bomb's and all, but it all seems to fit with how things changed on our end.

Gah, it just sucks.

#80 Posted by RR360DD (13012 posts) -
I got the same email, but my birthday is in March. Not sure if M$ have screwed up or if i entered the wrong month ...
#81 Posted by kuraimen (28078 posts) -
its also the best online service on consoles this gen.mems_1224
Lol it's always amusing to see lems justifying their rip off.
#82 Posted by mems_1224 (48332 posts) -
[QUOTE="mems_1224"]its also the best online service on consoles this gen.kuraimen
Lol it's always amusing to see lems justifying their rip off.

unlike you i actually own all consoles and can form my own opinions unlike you.
#83 Posted by freedomfreak (42877 posts) -
Whoa! Not everything at once, Microsoft.
#84 Posted by jg4xchamp (49885 posts) -

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]Yeah XBLG, the Dashboard and these schemes are a joke, that goes without saying. What astounds me is how Microsoft have torpedoed the service in the last few years, from the interface to the marketplace. They've managed to turn away customers and developers despite having it all in the bag at one stage. Classic Microsoft I guess.skrat_01

RIGHT? There was a point where Microsoft had so many awesome systems in place. From the XNA stuff, to the way they handled arcade/indie games(besides the dev process), to their interface, and then god knows what the hell happened.

Gosh, they really really did. XBLA was the most attractive place for any sort of developer to sell their stuff, XNA was an absolutely wonderful kit - and still is great (yet they've nuked support for it), and there was the promising placement of the indie channel. The Dashboard with its blades was fast and easy to use, and the ease of use, and focus on game content made the XBLG price tag digestible even for a bastard like me.And then yeah, they sunk it.

Word has it that everyone involved in the Xbox 360's development, who was a major decision maker, up until 2007 is gone; those were people who put tons of love and care into making the best games console possible, and were given free reign to make it happen, and it damn well worked. And then things changed, management and direction and the transition to what the console is today happened. Mind you this is all from what I've heard on podcasts, like Giant Bomb's and all, but it all seems to fit with how things changed on our end.

Gah, it just sucks.

Given the changes in philosophy at the xbox division I don't doubt it.
#85 Posted by The_Game21x (26342 posts) -

I got my first 2% rebate this month for being a whateverthef**khighesttierlevel!

A whole 20 points! ROLLIN' IN THEM MS POINTS B!!!

#86 Posted by BadNewsBen (1493 posts) -
Yeah, this is ridiculous. When the 720 comes out, assuming they are still asking people to pay for XBL, they need to give a little more incentive. I always thought that they should do something like -- "Every time you get all the achievements for one game, you get 50 MS points", or "For every 10,000 achievement points you get 100 MS points". Nothing too big, but it gives people more incentive to buy games and play them all of the way through. Plus, it would be a nice nod to the people who pay $60 a year for a similar service that is given for free to other gamers.
#87 Posted by BrunoBRS (73263 posts) -
i remember someone brought that up a while back. honestly, they were better off not giving anything :P
#88 Posted by jg4xchamp (49885 posts) -

A whole 20 points! ROLLIN' IN THEM MS POINTS B!!!

The_Game21x

ERRYBODY GETS POINTS B, ERRYBODY GETS POINTS!!

#89 Posted by SectorSix6 (201 posts) -
I got the same email, but my birthday is in March. Not sure if M$ have screwed up or if i entered the wrong month ...RR360DD
most likely you putting the wrong month since you're an idiot.
#90 Posted by Michael0134567 (28651 posts) -
[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]Whoa! Not everything at once, Microsoft.

Indeed. I've already gotten so many. I love you Microsoft.
#91 Posted by senses_fail_06 (6740 posts) -
Thank you Microsoft.
#92 Posted by senses_fail_06 (6740 posts) -
I hate free shiit too... 20 points isnt very much, but I never understood the mentality of biitching about getting something just for opening your eyes in the morning. People were doing this after the psn outage and I thought it was lame too... How about ms gives everyone $10 every birthday x 40+million gold members = bankruptcy in one year... dont be stupid system wars. Its not becoming of you.TheEroica
:lol: :lol:. Maybe they could just give you the $10 of the xbl costs that go to Activision for CoD maps. Also, do you really think it costs $60 from every user to keep M$ afloat? They wouldn't go bankrupt.
#93 Posted by JohnF111 (14107 posts) -
It is pretty poor I must say. However it's better than a "FREE avatar on us!!".
#94 Posted by xblocklaunchpad (138 posts) -
Xbox live is a joke now. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OZfXnN1rYg Any real xbox gamer would know where this song is from..without looking at comments. LYRICS DESCRIBE XBOX LIVE NOW...... I'VE FAILED!
#95 Posted by xblocklaunchpad (138 posts) -
xbox live 2002-2003 rip \m/
#96 Posted by percech (5237 posts) -

[QUOTE="Phazevariance"][QUOTE="-Patrick_92-"]MS takes away your online play when your subscription ends...but that's okay right? I don't get to keep watching movies off Netflix when my subscription ends, why should I expect anything different with PS+?

PS+ is a great deal, it's not for everyone, but it is a great service.

-Patrick_92-

Uh, when your 'gold' subscription ends you can still use Netflix with the free silver account. You still own all the games you bought on live.. have you ever used an xbox before with just silver membership?

Netflix was just another example of a subscription service, comparing it to PS+, in the way that you don't get to keep the movies you get from Netflix or use their streaming service after your subscription ends with them, just like how you can't play the free games you get from PS+ when that subscription ends. I wasn't even saying anything about Silver membership and Netflix usage before, but since you brought it up, you're wrong lol. You have to have Gold to use Netflix, sad but true.

And of course you own the games you bought on Live, same goes for PS+. Anything you buy, even with the PS+ discounts, you keep, and yes even after your subscription runs out. Only the "free" games lock after the subscription ends.

That's a terrible example. Netflix doesn't advertise that you get free movies. PS+ uses "free games" ads all the time. It's not true though, and in the long run you come to realize that you're paying money for games you don't own and for a bunch of extra crap you never wanted. With Netflix you get to choose what movie you want, you don't choose what game you want with PS+. Also,at least with XBL, there's something people are willing to pay for. What in god's name would people want from PS+?
#97 Posted by Killzonage (397 posts) -

[QUOTE="-Patrick_92-"]

[QUOTE="Phazevariance"] Uh, when your 'gold' subscription ends you can still use Netflix with the free silver account. You still own all the games you bought on live.. have you ever used an xbox before with just silver membership?percech

Netflix was just another example of a subscription service, comparing it to PS+, in the way that you don't get to keep the movies you get from Netflix or use their streaming service after your subscription ends with them, just like how you can't play the free games you get from PS+ when that subscription ends. I wasn't even saying anything about Silver membership and Netflix usage before, but since you brought it up, you're wrong lol. You have to have Gold to use Netflix, sad but true.

And of course you own the games you bought on Live, same goes for PS+. Anything you buy, even with the PS+ discounts, you keep, and yes even after your subscription runs out. Only the "free" games lock after the subscription ends.

That's a terrible example. Netflix doesn't advertise that you get free movies. PS+ uses "free games" ads all the time. It's not true though, and in the long run you come to realize that you're paying money for games you don't own and for a bunch of extra crap you never wanted. With Netflix you get to choose what movie you want, you don't choose what game you want with PS+. Also,at least with XBL, there's something people are willing to pay for. What in god's name would people want from PS+?

Uhhh Free games, themes and avatars, discounts maybe? The real question is, what are people paying 50 dollars a year for xbl for?

#98 Posted by percuvius2 (1982 posts) -

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Seriously? That's 25 cents! Required to pay to play online, ads plastered all over the dashboard, and the sales and rewards are pathatic. Xbox live is fueled by greed. The ps3 offers and optional pay service that actually gives free games and good sales..., Steam gives crazy sales for FREE

YoshiYogurt

psn is free and you get what you pay for. Go back to nintendo, kid.

#99 Posted by percech (5237 posts) -

[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="-Patrick_92-"]Netflix was just another example of a subscription service, comparing it to PS+, in the way that you don't get to keep the movies you get from Netflix or use their streaming service after your subscription ends with them, just like how you can't play the free games you get from PS+ when that subscription ends. I wasn't even saying anything about Silver membership and Netflix usage before, but since you brought it up, you're wrong lol. You have to have Gold to use Netflix, sad but true.

And of course you own the games you bought on Live, same goes for PS+. Anything you buy, even with the PS+ discounts, you keep, and yes even after your subscription runs out. Only the "free" games lock after the subscription ends.

Killzonage

That's a terrible example. Netflix doesn't advertise that you get free movies. PS+ uses "free games" ads all the time. It's not true though, and in the long run you come to realize that you're paying money for games you don't own and for a bunch of extra crap you never wanted. With Netflix you get to choose what movie you want, you don't choose what game you want with PS+. Also,at least with XBL, there's something people are willing to pay for. What in god's name would people want from PS+?

Uhhh Free games, themes and avatars, discounts maybe? The real question is, what are people paying 50 dollars a year for xbl for?

Are you kidding? None of those things you listed are free...and how are they discounts when you're paying $50 a year for them and are forced to use them to get something in return of your $50 anyway? People pay for online mp on XBL.
#100 Posted by YoshiYogurt (5987 posts) -
Only 780 more points and I can get FEZ! Wooo!