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#1  Edited By Salt_The_Fries
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Coming later on today:

Soon I'll be able to tell you how reliable this service is. However one cannot help but notice all the hitherto playable titles, all 18 of them are Microsoft titles in one way or the other so I'd expect them to work quite flawlessly.

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You need a bigger hard drive soon.

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Be interested to read dude. Look forward to it.

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@cainetao11 said:

Be interested to read dude. Look forward to it.

I've written a comprehensive review but Glitchspot has eaten it.

I will write one in 5-6 hours from now on, I'm about to leave to work.

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#5  Edited By lglz1337
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from the whole press conference only limited BC causes some hype, not even halo

haha

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#7  Edited By cainetao11
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@lglz1337 said:

from the whole press conference only limited BC causes some hype, not even halo

haha

You dont like Halo. You dont like Xbox how could you even begin to guage the hype for it. If there is no Hype for Halo 5 what's your call on the sales numbers?

And BC will only be limited by whether devs will allow their games to go BC on X1. Fact is I wont need another console in my wall unit or need to rent the games. Xbox feedback forums. Check them out. What gamers are asking for on there is being delivered.

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@Salt_The_Fries: Send me an invite?

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@sts106mat said:
@lglz1337 said:

from the whole press conference only limited BC causes some hype, not even halo

haha

everybody already knows halo is going to be fucking awesome, we don't need to keep going on about it.

war has changed

cod is the base FPS for dudebro's and star wars battlefront stole all the halo 5 hype

i can assure you cod will outsell halo 5 excluding ps4 and pc releases!

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blog it

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So here's the deal. If you own digital titles in your Xbox 360 history, they will appear in "My games and apps" -> "Games" section. From there you have to browse all the way to the right and you'll see a list that says "Ready to Install". All your BC 360 games are there.

After you install a game, upon launching, you see a beautiful launch screen, exactly in the same vein as current Gen ones. Then you see a xbox360 booting animation and after that the console will verify your 360 account. Upon my first launch it took a minute and a half because of the initial check but subsequent attempts took as little as two seconds. An old style notification with your gamer tag and info how many friends are online pops up which leads me to believe this is some kind of a proprietary emulator. Then you're in the game. I cannot say if games are enhanced by additional power offered by the Xbone but they look exactly the same as their 360 counterparts. Same for frame rate. Viva Pinata Trouble in Paradise which I have tested earlier, worked flawlessly.

The console stores all your saves in the X1 cloud by default, and this is great as well as you can play multiplayer on emulated games, both with other X1 users or native 360 players.

You also get added pizazz in the form of screenshots and recording clips. However, since these games were originally 720p at most, screens and clips make the image seem truncated a bit because of changed aspect ratio.

I've recorded one clip already:

Loading Video...

What is more, You can snap any app alongside emulated game.

Overall I'm very satisfied but I'd like to test more games to be more objective in my assessment.

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@lostrib: You blog * yourself *

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#15  Edited By princeofshapeir
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The fact that Microsoft is doing this sends a really strong message. I'm sure Cows will label it as desperation or whatever bullshit, but committing to a huge task like backwards compatibility that won't yield an immediate profit can potentially be a bigger risk than whatever Sony's planning next for PS4. Yet this is still happening, and it won't cost Xbox owners a cent.

The Microsoft at E3 2013 and the Microsoft at E3 2015 are completely different.

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#16 finalstar2007
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Can you play Modern Warfare 2??

in terms of BC all i really want to play is MW2 and MW3

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#17  Edited By Salt_The_Fries
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@finalstar2007 said:

Can you play Modern Warfare 2??

in terms of BC all i really want to play is MW2 and MW3

Not yet, but most likely you will. There will be 100 BC titles by this holiday, including Mass Effect 1 and Borderlands 1, but the rest remains to be seen.

BTW I wanted to add that 360 games also can be launched by Kinect-based commands and games themselves feature vibration, so it's a full unadulterated experience.

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Good stuff, this might be the only thing stopping remasters.

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#19  Edited By Alucard_Prime
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Been working great for me too. I tried Mass Effect(disc) and Perfect Dark(digital). When you use the disc version it still downloads the game file from the store. So far I've not encountered any glitches, they really did a great job with this.

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BC is what is driving me more towards supporting my X1 over PS4 and is the reason my brother just chose an X1 over PS4. Givng BC is a classy move, especially when the competition is charging you to play the games you already own.

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This is huge for consoles, HUGE! One of the main reasons for not bothering with a new console this gen was the loss of all of my digital library and needing to have yet another set of boxes under the TV. I had the entire collection of Pinball FX tables and if they become available to me again I may well dive in and explore the bone.

Who knows, maybe one day consoles will be as great as the PC? Pfft, nah who am I kidding.

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@iambatman7986 said:

BC is what is driving me more towards supporting my X1 over PS4 and is the reason my brother just chose an X1 over PS4. Givng BC is a classy move, especially when the competition is charging you to play the games you already own.

He chose a X1 to play ported version of mass effect and viva pinata?

We haven't even seen any triple AAA xbox multiplat yet anywhere

GTA 5 IS NEVER gonna go for this they WILL NEVER let u play ur 360 version for free on xbone

most probably won't even let you play skyrim or anything like that because these companies dunno if they can trust people pirating or sharing discs or whatever to get the download i certainly wouldn't trust ms with my digital game give aways if i had some huge friggin game or a remaster planned

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@finalstar2007 said:

Can you play Modern Warfare 2??

in terms of BC all i really want to play is MW2 and MW3

would this make you get an xbox one if that stuff happened?

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Good thread Salt and good news, thanks for the info.

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@sts106mat said:
@ProtossX said:
@iambatman7986 said:

BC is what is driving me more towards supporting my X1 over PS4 and is the reason my brother just chose an X1 over PS4. Givng BC is a classy move, especially when the competition is charging you to play the games you already own.

He chose a X1 to play ported version of mass effect and viva pinata?

We haven't even seen any triple AAA xbox multiplat yet anywhere

GTA 5 IS NEVER gonna go for this they WILL NEVER let u play ur 360 version for free on xbone

most probably won't even let you play skyrim or anything like that because these companies dunno if they can trust people pirating or sharing discs or whatever to get the download i certainly wouldn't trust ms with my digital game give aways if i had some huge friggin game or a remaster planned

How is mass effect a ported version?

they aren't off the DISC, you download a PC port or whatever to hard drive an then play these games, the disc doesn't spin it doesn't install, we dunno what it does all we know is microsoft sends us the game which must be a port or else what the hell is it?

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@ProtossX said:
@iambatman7986 said:

BC is what is driving me more towards supporting my X1 over PS4 and is the reason my brother just chose an X1 over PS4. Givng BC is a classy move, especially when the competition is charging you to play the games you already own.

He chose a X1 to play ported version of mass effect and viva pinata?

We haven't even seen any triple AAA xbox multiplat yet anywhere

GTA 5 IS NEVER gonna go for this they WILL NEVER let u play ur 360 version for free on xbone

most probably won't even let you play skyrim or anything like that because these companies dunno if they can trust people pirating or sharing discs or whatever to get the download i certainly wouldn't trust ms with my digital game give aways if i had some huge friggin game or a remaster planned

Perfect Dark is AAA

You lost

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Do the 360 games work online, too?

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@sts106mat said:
@ProtossX said:
@sts106mat said:
@ProtossX said:
@iambatman7986 said:

BC is what is driving me more towards supporting my X1 over PS4 and is the reason my brother just chose an X1 over PS4. Givng BC is a classy move, especially when the competition is charging you to play the games you already own.

He chose a X1 to play ported version of mass effect and viva pinata?

We haven't even seen any triple AAA xbox multiplat yet anywhere

GTA 5 IS NEVER gonna go for this they WILL NEVER let u play ur 360 version for free on xbone

most probably won't even let you play skyrim or anything like that because these companies dunno if they can trust people pirating or sharing discs or whatever to get the download i certainly wouldn't trust ms with my digital game give aways if i had some huge friggin game or a remaster planned

How is mass effect a ported version?

they aren't off the DISC, you download a PC port or whatever to hard drive an then play these games, the disc doesn't spin it doesn't install, we dunno what it does all we know is microsoft sends us the game which must be a port or else what the hell is it?

Do you even own an X1? the discs dont spin anymore after the install genius. it checks to see you have the disc and then runs from the HDD.

So no, its not a port its a 360 game, the game downloads from the xbox store. its 360 code, but the x1 emulates the 360 OS, even includes 360 achievements and the xbox guide.

okay but how could a weak XBONE handle a 360 emulator when most PC's can't even emulate 360 games without heavy lag something is def fishy bout this no way i buy that a xbone can emulate 360 hardware better than a high end pc and ppl workin oon those on pc

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@ProtossX said:
@sts106mat said:
@ProtossX said:
@sts106mat said:
@ProtossX said:
@iambatman7986 said:

BC is what is driving me more towards supporting my X1 over PS4 and is the reason my brother just chose an X1 over PS4. Givng BC is a classy move, especially when the competition is charging you to play the games you already own.

He chose a X1 to play ported version of mass effect and viva pinata?

We haven't even seen any triple AAA xbox multiplat yet anywhere

GTA 5 IS NEVER gonna go for this they WILL NEVER let u play ur 360 version for free on xbone

most probably won't even let you play skyrim or anything like that because these companies dunno if they can trust people pirating or sharing discs or whatever to get the download i certainly wouldn't trust ms with my digital game give aways if i had some huge friggin game or a remaster planned

How is mass effect a ported version?

they aren't off the DISC, you download a PC port or whatever to hard drive an then play these games, the disc doesn't spin it doesn't install, we dunno what it does all we know is microsoft sends us the game which must be a port or else what the hell is it?

Do you even own an X1? the discs dont spin anymore after the install genius. it checks to see you have the disc and then runs from the HDD.

So no, its not a port its a 360 game, the game downloads from the xbox store. its 360 code, but the x1 emulates the 360 OS, even includes 360 achievements and the xbox guide.

okay but how could a weak XBONE handle a 360 emulator when most PC's can't even emulate 360 games without heavy lag something is def fishy bout this no way i buy that a xbone can emulate 360 hardware better than a high end pc and ppl workin oon those on pc

This is a new level of stupid

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Good stuff, this might be the only thing stopping remasters.

I'd rather have a remaster of a game I really like than a bad looking version that I can just play on my old consoles.

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This is interesting. I am hoping it will work out fantastically. Just got an Xbone after the Rare Collection announcement and BC.

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@ProtossX: To answer your question, yes he bought an X1 over the PS4 because he already owned a 360 so he views it as he get's to keep a bunch of those games because of the BC. The list isn't huge right now, but at least they are doing something other than an overpriced rental service. I commend MS for trying this when they could go the PS Now route and make money on it.

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#36  Edited By blackace
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@Salt_The_Fries: When it launches this Fall, it will have over 100 games ready to play.

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@PurpleMan5000 said:

Do the 360 games work online, too?

Good question.

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@PurpleMan5000: @crashnburn281: according to Microsoft, yep

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@PurpleMan5000: @crashnburn281: according to Microsoft, yep

Well that is interesting. I'm really starting to like the new Microsoft.

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@Salt_The_Fries said:

So here's the deal. If you own digital titles in your Xbox 360 history, they will appear in "My games and apps" -> "Games" section. From there you have to browse all the way to the right and you'll see a list that says "Ready to Install". All your BC 360 games are there.

After you install a game, upon launching, you see a beautiful launch screen, exactly in the same vein as current Gen ones. Then you see a xbox360 booting animation and after that the console will verify your 360 account. Upon my first launch it took a minute and a half because of the initial check but subsequent attempts took as little as two seconds. An old style notification with your gamer tag and info how many friends are online pops up which leads me to believe this is some kind of a proprietary emulator. Then you're in the game. I cannot say if games are enhanced by additional power offered by the Xbone but they look exactly the same as their 360 counterparts. Same for frame rate. Viva Pinata Trouble in Paradise which I have tested earlier, worked flawlessly.

The console stores all your saves in the X1 cloud by default, and this is great as well as you can play multiplayer on emulated games, both with other X1 users or native 360 players.

You also get added pizazz in the form of screenshots and recording clips. However, since these games were originally 720p at most, screens and clips make the image seem truncated a bit because of changed aspect ratio.

I've recorded one clip already:

Loading Video...

What is more, You can snap any app alongside emulated game.

Overall I'm very satisfied but I'd like to test more games to be more objective in my assessment.

Well there it is, megaton. But not just word of mouth from a conference, it's here, it works. Absolutely amazing work from Microsoft.

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@MonsieurX said:
@ProtossX said:
@sts106mat said:
@ProtossX said:
@sts106mat said:
@ProtossX said:
@iambatman7986 said:

BC is what is driving me more towards supporting my X1 over PS4 and is the reason my brother just chose an X1 over PS4. Givng BC is a classy move, especially when the competition is charging you to play the games you already own.

He chose a X1 to play ported version of mass effect and viva pinata?

We haven't even seen any triple AAA xbox multiplat yet anywhere

GTA 5 IS NEVER gonna go for this they WILL NEVER let u play ur 360 version for free on xbone

most probably won't even let you play skyrim or anything like that because these companies dunno if they can trust people pirating or sharing discs or whatever to get the download i certainly wouldn't trust ms with my digital game give aways if i had some huge friggin game or a remaster planned

How is mass effect a ported version?

they aren't off the DISC, you download a PC port or whatever to hard drive an then play these games, the disc doesn't spin it doesn't install, we dunno what it does all we know is microsoft sends us the game which must be a port or else what the hell is it?

Do you even own an X1? the discs dont spin anymore after the install genius. it checks to see you have the disc and then runs from the HDD.

So no, its not a port its a 360 game, the game downloads from the xbox store. its 360 code, but the x1 emulates the 360 OS, even includes 360 achievements and the xbox guide.

okay but how could a weak XBONE handle a 360 emulator when most PC's can't even emulate 360 games without heavy lag something is def fishy bout this no way i buy that a xbone can emulate 360 hardware better than a high end pc and ppl workin oon those on pc

This is a new level of stupid

ROFLMAO !!!, just exactly what I was thinking.

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@Alucard_Prime said:

Been working great for me too. I tried Mass Effect(disc) and Perfect Dark(digital). When you use the disc version it still downloads the game file from the store. So far I've not encountered any glitches, they really did a great job with this.

Do you have to put in the disc when you want to play the game the next time? Or does it just treat it like a digital download once you've installed it?

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Any chance you'd be willing to send me an invite Salt?

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@sts106mat said:

Do you even own an X1?

Do people on the board really have such a hard time spotting fakeboy sniper/uninspiredcup clones who play a character?

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#45  Edited By PurpleMan5000
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@blue_hazy_basic said:
@sts106mat said:

Do you even own an X1?

Do people on the board really have such a hard time spotting fakeboy sniper/uninspiredcup clones who play a character?

Uninspired Cup is the best of them, imo. The Protoss/Sniper stuff is just hard to read. Then again, he is my friend, so I may be biased.

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Any chance you'd be willing to send me an invite Salt?

Sure, PM me your GT. I'm now busy with some big assignment and might not send it to you right away, but expect it in few hours at most.

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Hopefully all future games with gold on 360 will be compatible too.

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#48  Edited By Antwan3K
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@RR360DD said:

Hopefully all future games with gold on 360 will be compatible too.

That would be awesome..

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**** man, im jelly. wish i was in the preview program

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**** man, im jelly. wish i was in the preview program

Yeah me too