X1 & PS4 are fail......

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#1 Posted by chikenfriedrice (9977 posts) -

According to this dev

Source

"The Cloud Imperium Games developer says that the Xbone and the PlayStation 4 both use technology that is standard on less powerful gaming computers. The standard resolution that both consoles are struggling to maintain is 1080p 60fps, which is only a frame rate boost over most high definition YouTube videos. Even low end PCs these days are capable of running better displays than consoles with apparently mediocre level graphics cards."

Harsh words....but at the same time I agree and I wish both the consoles had better specs after such a long 7th gen....I was expecting 2 powerhouse consoles and we didn't get that.

#2 Posted by Desmonic (13507 posts) -

Did...did he really just compare both consoles to the requirements needed to play an youtube videon on 1080p?....Like....seriously?....

#3 Posted by scottpsfan14 (4036 posts) -

If I had the choice, I would have more powerful consoles. But I do think that exclusives on both machines will blow us away graphically. So I'm fine with them.

#4 Posted by General_Solo76 (178 posts) -

"Cloud Imperium Games"? Yeah, I really trust what this chumbalone has to say. Lol

#5 Edited by PapaTrop (572 posts) -

@Desmonic said:

Did...did he really just compare both consoles to the requirements needed to play an youtube videon on 1080p?....Like....seriously?....

He gave people a frame of reference as to what the two consoles are striving to output.

He's not saying the consoles are only barely able to watch youtube videos.

#6 Edited by R3FURBISHED (10399 posts) -

What an incredibly terrible article

The problem with Peterson’s statement is that recent low-end PCs not even built for gaming can still run most Xbox 360 ports, and Microsoft’s last generation console is the weakest if you don’t count the Wii.

Really? North America is the largest continent if you don't count Asia and Africa. GM sells the most cars if you don't count Volkswagen or Toyota.

Cloud Imperium Games also doesn't give any advice to remedy the situation, just pointing out what they think is wrong.

#7 Posted by AmazonAngry (945 posts) -

What a chumbawumba. Much jelly in him.

#8 Edited by santoron (7702 posts) -

That article and the interview it's based on were absolutely terrible. I'd be embarrassed to repost that crap.

Not TC apparently...

#9 Posted by I_can_haz (6551 posts) -

What an embarrassingly terrible article. You should feel bad for posting this crap OP.

#10 Edited by SolidTy (42541 posts) -

@general_solo76 said:

"Cloud Imperium Games"? Yeah, I really trust what this chumbalone has to say. Lol

Hahaha. Eric Peterson attempting to put himself on the map. He wants his own Wiki page and it's smart to sell this game to as many people as he can and this is one way to help his crowd-funded PC indie game see a boost in sales. Chris Roberts would approve. Either way, this game is running on 2009's older CryEngine 3...

Anyways, it's going to be a hot PC game with them having raised 46 million dollars in crow funding tabulated last month. People want Chris's PC game bad and this is the kind of PR that excites the demographic excited for the product, even if it's embellished.

Above the quote was this in the same link:

The Xbox One and PS4 both fail, according to Eric Peterson of Cloud Imperium Games. Clearly believing in the “PC master race” trend, he claims his upcoming crowd-funded Star Citizen would be impossible to run on any of the consoles.

"The reason the Xbox One and PS4 fail in the developer’s opinion is that he built the game to show off the power of high-end gaming PCs, though he does admit that most mid-range PCs can still run the game quite well.

Is Peterson simply bashing the consoles because he is a closet PC fanboy, or is there something to his claim on a logical level?"

...The problem with Peterson’s statement is that recent low-end PCs not even built for gaming can still run most Xbox 360 ports, and Microsoft’s last generation console is the weakest if you don’t count the Wii.

Is the PS4 vs Xbox One console war already the laughing stock for PC gamers, or is Eric Peterson simply bashing the consoles? How much merit is there to the statement that the PS4 and Xbox One will fail to run his upcoming Star Citizen?

#11 Posted by Desmonic (13507 posts) -

@papatrop said:

@Desmonic said:

Did...did he really just compare both consoles to the requirements needed to play an youtube videon on 1080p?....Like....seriously?....

He gave people a frame of reference as to what the two consoles are striving to output.

He's not saying the consoles are only barely able to watch youtube videos.

"The standard resolution that both consoles are struggling to maintain is 1080p 60fps, which is only a frame rate boost over most high definition YouTube videos"

The way it's worded makes it sound like the requirements for an 1080p game are the same for a static 1080p-ish, badly compressed movie on Youtube. Could be just the article f*cking him over and putting all of this out of context, but it's not a "fortunate" comparison IMO.

#12 Edited by EasyComeEasyGo (584 posts) -

What a Dumbass.

#13 Posted by clyde46 (45347 posts) -

So much about nothing then.

#14 Edited by final_lap (327 posts) -

this has been yet another edition of "devs say the darndest things"

#15 Posted by blamix99 (1713 posts) -

What an embarrassingly terrible article. You should feel bad for posting this crap OP.

#16 Posted by xhawk27 (7232 posts) -

I like to see a low end PC that can run Forza 4, or Halo 4.

#17 Posted by chikenfriedrice (9977 posts) -

Who cares about the article it's all about that quote and what's on his twitter feed that's news.....seems like cows are upset?

Guess what cows the PS4 isn't all that either lol

#18 Edited by SolidTy (42541 posts) -
xhawk27 said:

I like to see a low end PC that can run Forza 4, or Halo 4. (lemming)

@clyde46 said:

So much about nothing then. (PC gamer)

chikenfriedrice said:

.....seems like cows are upset?

Guess what cows the PS4 isn't all that either lol

lol. TC's intentions are becoming more obvious.

#19 Posted by xhawk27 (7232 posts) -

Who cares about the article it's all about that quote and what's on his twitter feed that's news.....seems like cows are upset?

Guess what cows the PS4 isn't all that either lol

The Cows think that the PS4 like the PS3 are Supercomputers. lol

#20 Posted by chikenfriedrice (9977 posts) -

@xhawk27 said:

@chikenfriedrice said:

Who cares about the article it's all about that quote and what's on his twitter feed that's news.....seems like cows are upset?

Guess what cows the PS4 isn't all that either lol

The Cows think that the PS4 like the PS3 are Supercomputers. lol

I swear lol

#21 Posted by Vatusus (4498 posts) -

I buy consoles for games not graphics. Sure nicer graphics are good to look at but they come second. Now that most AAA gaming is dying to give place to indies hardware doesnt matter much anyway

#22 Edited by lostrib (34969 posts) -

@xhawk27 said:

@chikenfriedrice said:

Who cares about the article it's all about that quote and what's on his twitter feed that's news.....seems like cows are upset?

Guess what cows the PS4 isn't all that either lol

The Cows think that the PS4 like the PS3 are Supercomputers. lol

Well, when you hook up a bunch of PS3s you can make a supercomputer

#23 Edited by Zen_Light (1231 posts) -

PS4 and Xbox One aren't as powerful as high end PCs. In other news the sky is blue and water is wet.

#24 Edited by vashkey (33721 posts) -

Bungie loves their money equally.

I kind of lost faith in the spirit of Bungie after Marcus Lehto, Shishka, Frankie and Joseph Staten left and Marty got fired as well as the other veterans. It's not really the Bungie I knew and loved anymore. Just some studio that left Microsoft to bravely push boundaries by making more sci-fi shooter under a different banner

#25 Posted by Cranler (8797 posts) -

The only way for the console to have been close to high end pc power would have been larger consoles which would turn off many, selling way below cost and or much higher price. The main thing though is that it's a big upgrade for console only players. About the same upgrade as it was going from PS 2 to PS 3.

#26 Edited by R3FURBISHED (10399 posts) -

@vashkey said:

Bungie loves their money equally.

I kind of lost faith in the spirit of Bungie after Marcus Lehto, Shishka, Frankie and Joseph Staten left and Marty got fired as well as the other veterans. It's not really the Bungie I knew and loved anymore. Just some studio that left Microsoft to bravely push boundaries by making more sci-fi shooter under a different banner

It is still Bungie, just because Bungie has always been a studio of more that just a handful of people (over 500 employees now). Though the firing of O'Donnell is troublesome.

#27 Posted by chikenfriedrice (9977 posts) -

@SolidTy said:
xhawk27 said:

I like to see a low end PC that can run Forza 4, or Halo 4. (lemming)

@clyde46 said:

So much about nothing then. (PC gamer)

chikenfriedrice said:

.....seems like cows are upset?

Guess what cows the PS4 isn't all that either lol

lol. TC's intentions are becoming more obvious.

No way....it just was funny to me that some well known cows took such offense.

#28 Edited by Pray_to_me (2834 posts) -

"Star Citizen could never run on consoles but don't worry your shitty PC that is weaker than a console will run it just fine. Now please donate more to our Kickstarter so we can buy more hookers and blow thanks PC masturba- I mean PC Master race."

#29 Edited by clyde46 (45347 posts) -

"Star Citizen could never run on consoles but don't worry your shitty PC that is weaker than a console will run it just fine. Now please donate more to our Kickstarter so we can buy more hookers and blow thanks PC masturba- I mean PC Master race."

Someone doesn't understand what graphics options are. Classic consolite.

#30 Posted by pyro1245 (607 posts) -

Graphics wouldn't be at the top of my list for reasons the're fail; it's up there though behind lack of games. That and no backwards compatibility so you're likely to end up buying you're favorite games multiple times.

Consoles are good for some things like couch co-op and streaming media. Most people end up with one to play the few exclusives that come out; or JRPGs.

#31 Edited by Cranler (8797 posts) -

@pyro1245 said:

Graphics wouldn't be at the top of my list for reasons the're fail; it's up there though behind lack of games. That and no backwards compatibility so you're likely to end up buying you're favorite games multiple times.

Consoles are good for some things like couch co-op and streaming media. Most people end up with one to play the few exclusives that come out; or JRPGs.

Who needs backwards compatibility when you can keep you old consoles?

#32 Posted by gregbmil (2607 posts) -

I don't see why people are making such a big deal about PC's being stronger than consoles this gen. Its always been that way, nothing has changed

#33 Posted by evildead6789 (7537 posts) -

relax nintendo is making a new console

#34 Posted by silversix_ (14122 posts) -

The best is that Xbone struggles in 720p (bf4/DR3 for example).

#35 Posted by SYSTEM-REBOOT (646 posts) -

@Vatusus said:

I buy consoles for games not graphics.

implying PC doesnot have gameplay.

#36 Posted by drummerdave9099 (656 posts) -

Continues to prove that the entire gaming community is just full of negativity- from the users to the devs.

#37 Posted by lostrib (34969 posts) -

@Cranler said:

@pyro1245 said:

Graphics wouldn't be at the top of my list for reasons the're fail; it's up there though behind lack of games. That and no backwards compatibility so you're likely to end up buying you're favorite games multiple times.

Consoles are good for some things like couch co-op and streaming media. Most people end up with one to play the few exclusives that come out; or JRPGs.

Who needs backwards compatibility when you can keep you old consoles?

People who lack old consoles?

#38 Edited by Vatusus (4498 posts) -

@system-reboot said:

@Vatusus said:

I buy consoles for games not graphics.

implying PC doesnot have gameplay.

What? What part of that sentence made you think I was saying PC doesnt have gameplay?

#39 Posted by evildead6789 (7537 posts) -

According to this dev

Source

"The Cloud Imperium Games developer says that the Xbone and the PlayStation 4 both use technology that is standard on less powerful gaming computers. The standard resolution that both consoles are struggling to maintain is 1080p 60fps, which is only a frame rate boost over most high definition YouTube videos. Even low end PCs these days are capable of running better displays than consoles with apparently mediocre level graphics cards."

Harsh words....but at the same time I agree and I wish both the consoles had better specs after such a long 7th gen....I was expecting 2 powerhouse consoles and we didn't get that.

both are a rip off, don't buy them

#40 Edited by cainetao11 (16973 posts) -

According to this dev

Source

"The Cloud Imperium Games developer says that the Xbone and the PlayStation 4 both use technology that is standard on less powerful gaming computers. The standard resolution that both consoles are struggling to maintain is 1080p 60fps, which is only a frame rate boost over most high definition YouTube videos. Even low end PCs these days are capable of running better displays than consoles with apparently mediocre level graphics cards."

Harsh words....but at the same time I agree and I wish both the consoles had better specs after such a long 7th gen....I was expecting 2 powerhouse consoles and we didn't get that.

I hear ya, but I wasn't expecting power house. I knew neither Sony or MS wanted to sell at a massive loss out the gate this gen ala PS3. The business pages were actually saying this for over a year before launch. Its one reason I jumped into PC gaming.

#41 Posted by Vatusus (4498 posts) -
@clyde46 said:

@Pray_to_me said:

"Star Citizen could never run on consoles but don't worry your shitty PC that is weaker than a console will run it just fine. Now please donate more to our Kickstarter so we can buy more hookers and blow thanks PC masturba- I mean PC Master race."

Someone doesn't understand what graphics options are. Classic consolite.

Wait, but those same low graphics options cant be applied to consoles? Then why say they cant run it? Again, this is Crysis all over again. PC devs cattering to their main market with PR bullshit. This is no different than when Quantic Dream said Heavy Rain couldnt run on the 360.

#42 Posted by RimacBugatti (1194 posts) -

@chikenfriedrice: To be honest I would have been fine with a $600 PS4 that had an extra $200 worth of upgraded hardware. I really didn't expect much for $400.

#43 Posted by Cranler (8797 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@Cranler said:

@pyro1245 said:

Graphics wouldn't be at the top of my list for reasons the're fail; it's up there though behind lack of games. That and no backwards compatibility so you're likely to end up buying you're favorite games multiple times.

Consoles are good for some things like couch co-op and streaming media. Most people end up with one to play the few exclusives that come out; or JRPGs.

Who needs backwards compatibility when you can keep you old consoles?

People who lack old consoles?

Then they're not rebuying old games since they never owned them.

#44 Posted by lostrib (34969 posts) -

@Cranler said:

@lostrib said:

@Cranler said:

@pyro1245 said:

Graphics wouldn't be at the top of my list for reasons the're fail; it's up there though behind lack of games. That and no backwards compatibility so you're likely to end up buying you're favorite games multiple times.

Consoles are good for some things like couch co-op and streaming media. Most people end up with one to play the few exclusives that come out; or JRPGs.

Who needs backwards compatibility when you can keep you old consoles?

People who lack old consoles?

Then they're not rebuying old games since they never owned them.

or perhaps people whose old console has failed...

BC is really more of a want, since I'd imagine many people want a single device to play current and last gen

#45 Edited by Cranler (8797 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@Cranler said:

@lostrib said:

@Cranler said:

@pyro1245 said:

Graphics wouldn't be at the top of my list for reasons the're fail; it's up there though behind lack of games. That and no backwards compatibility so you're likely to end up buying you're favorite games multiple times.

Consoles are good for some things like couch co-op and streaming media. Most people end up with one to play the few exclusives that come out; or JRPGs.

Who needs backwards compatibility when you can keep you old consoles?

People who lack old consoles?

Then they're not rebuying old games since they never owned them.

or perhaps people whose old console has failed...

BC is really more of a want, since I'd imagine many people want a single device to play current and last gen

Switching tv modes is so time consuming.

Anyways, if next gen consloes are as pc like as xbone/ps4 then backwards compatibility should be a given.

#46 Posted by CrownKingArthur (4508 posts) -

i think they should have a sku with a backwards compatibility SOC, of course that would have to carry a price premium.

#47 Edited by Vecna (3384 posts) -

The consoles are watered down pcs, this isn't news. Crap hardware produces crap performance. Alot of DC in this thread for some guy stating the truth. These consoles are already making compromises in FPS and resolution to make games look pretty. It will happen all gen long.

#48 Edited by Cloud_imperium (2686 posts) -

PC always had better hardware and always will have because it is upgradable . Same was the case every gen before this one . So what makes butthurts in this thread believe that this time the case will be different , specially when hardware in PS4/X1 was already outdated , before being released .

Both consoles have outdated hardware and both of them are struggling to run the games at high settings 1080p/60fps . It's fact , not an opinion . If you can't face it then don't read about it . I wish both consoles were at least 2x more powerful than what they are ATM .

#49 Posted by scottpsfan14 (4036 posts) -

PC always had better hardware and always will have because it is upgradable . Same was the case every gen before this one . So what makes butthurts in this thread believe that this time the case will be different , specially when hardware in PS4/X1 was already outdated , before being released .

Both consoles have outdated hardware and both of them are struggling to run the games at high settings 1080p/60fps . It's fact , not an opinion . If you can't face it then don't read about it . I wish both consoles were at least 2x more powerful than what they are ATM .

Same here tbh. Multiplats atleast would be 1080p at all times on both and at good framerates.

#50 Edited by edwardecl (2144 posts) -

I guess I should throw my PC away then, because it only just about matches the PS4 in GPU performance...

What a lot of people fail to state though is how much money you need to spend to build significantly faster PC (lets say 20% better to match the optimisations that can be done for consoles), we are not just talking about the GPU, the whole thing with components that will last at least 5 years (no cheap PSU), plus you have to take the time to build the thing yourself, unless you want to pay someone else to do it for you.