X1 or Wii U - who will be second place?

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Poll: X1 or Wii U - who will be second place? (148 votes)

X1 46%
Wii U 54%

I'm going to go all out and say Wii U takes the second place spot from the X1. Why? Because why get an X1 if you can get a PS4 or play PC? They both can do what the X1 does and do it better. The Wii U on the other hand has an all inclusive library that will attract lots of people and it also has a very attractive price point.

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#51 Edited by DocSanchez (3577 posts) -

@GreySeal9: there are no sounds involved in posting on a forum. Like every boring sheep you need to get over me not liking Nintendo. It's not obligatory.

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#52 Posted by Coco_pierrot (1855 posts) -

@GreySeal9:

I'm in the exact same position ... I find the WIIU very very veyr tempting ... especially after E3. I also own a 3ds and that thing is seriously wonderful. But I know I would miss the next Unreal, Final Fantasy and Persona which are all 3rd party games that I love a lot outside of 1st party Sony and Nintendo games.

But when I look at the game already out and what they have annonced at E3 the PS4 looks very boring and X1 only have Halo that I'm interested.

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#53 Edited by GreySeal9 (28247 posts) -

@DocSanchez said:

@GreySeal9: there are no sounds involved in posting on a forum. Like every boring sheep you need to get over me not liking Nintendo. It's not obligatory.

lol at the bolded. Love me some nitpicky semantics.

But anyway, I never said you had to like Nintendo. Lots of people here don't. I just think it's funny how pissed you sound (yeah, I used the world sound again) in particular. Kind of bizzare but kind of cute as well.

Well, actually, I was lying with that last statement lol.

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#54 Edited by GreySeal9 (28247 posts) -

@Coco_pierrot said:

@GreySeal9:

I'm in the exact same position ... I find the WIIU very very veyr tempting ... especially after E3. I also own a 3ds and that thing is seriously wonderful. But I know I would miss the next Unreal, Final Fantasy and Persona which are all 3rd party games that I love a lot outside of 1st party Sony and Nintendo games.

But when I look at the game already out and what they have annonced at E3 the PS4 looks very boring and X1 only have Halo that I'm interested.

Yeah, the PS4 doesn't look too exciting, but it will have the better multiplats, so that alone is a selling point.

And yeah, Halo is amazing, but there's literally nothing else that is even slightly appealing about the X1.

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#55 Posted by DocSanchez (3577 posts) -

@GreySeal9: I'm not arguing semantics. You have no idea whether I'm pissed or not. It's a ridiculous, useless tone argument you have no justification for.

This is system wars. You could write off every single post here by reducing it to a tone argument. Do better. If I was pissed off I wouldn't come on here.

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#56 Edited by GreySeal9 (28247 posts) -

@DocSanchez said:

@GreySeal9: I'm not arguing semantics. You have no idea whether I'm pissed or not. It's a ridiculous, useless tone argument you have no justification for.

This is system wars. You could write off every single post here by reducing it to a tone argument. Do better. If I was pissed off I wouldn't come on here.

Haha. Being pissed is precisely why some people (including you) come on here. For some, it's a place to vent.

Being pissed is not always a bad thing. I mean, it's kind of weird that you're so pissed at Nintendo, but you might have compelling reasons. Tell me why. I'm willing to listen lol.

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#57 Edited by ReadingRainbow4 (18733 posts) -

I actually think WiiU might pull ahead now, they have some truly unique games that cater to those that prefer japanese developers.

It's become a race to grab up the AAA's and have the best multiplats(lol) between the xbone and ps4, with the WiiU you are guaranteed to have a unique experience. They just need to keep making games because the big 3rd parties aren't supporting it which puts them in a unique position

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#58 Edited by DocSanchez (3577 posts) -

@GreySeal9: you sound pissed. Really pissed. Have you broken your keyboard typing so aggressively?

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#59 Posted by GreySeal9 (28247 posts) -

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

I actually think WiiU might pull ahead now, they have some truly unique games that cater to those that prefer japanese developers.

It's become a race to grab up the AAA's and have the best multiplats(lol) between the xbone and ps4, with the WiiU you are guaranteed to have a unique experience. They just need to keep making games because the big 3rd parties aren't supporting it which puts them in a unique position

I actually think if they timed their big releases to avoid droughts (I think Mario Kart 8 is going to give the Wii U a much need NPD boost), they could definitely pull ahead of the X1, but I think it'll be droughts that eventually undermine the Wii's path to success. We'll see.

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#60 Edited by GreySeal9 (28247 posts) -

@DocSanchez said:

@GreySeal9: you sound pissed. Really pissed. Have you broken your keyboard typing so aggressively?

No need to try to make this about me, friend. Now when do you think this anger towards Nintendo started?

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#61 Posted by ShoTTyMcNaDeS (2767 posts) -

My prediction.....

1. X1

2. PS4

3. WiiU

Sony as usual is far to full of them selves and as usual will over promise and under deliver just like they did with the PS3!! MS has Halo, Gears, Fable, Forza, Sunset Overdrive and Quantum Break just to name a few exclusive franchises that are known. Nobody is pulling multiplats away from the X1, so I think it is time for the Cows to stop being so dillusional and understand that this is going to be a long, long race of atleast 8-10 years. Nintendo's WiiU wont be a factor because Nintendo will have to come out with a more powerful console in the next 3 years to remain even half relevant!

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#62 Edited by DocSanchez (3577 posts) -

@GreySeal9: oh god everyone around you is in so much danger you sound so angry. Don't do anything rash!

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#63 Edited by GreySeal9 (28247 posts) -

@ShoTTyMcNaDeS said:

My prediction.....

1. X1

2. PS4

3. WiiU

Sony as usual is far to full of them selves and as usual will over promise and under deliver just like they did with the PS3!! MS has Halo, Gears, Fable, Forza, Sunset Overdrive and Quantum Break just to name a few exclusive franchises that are known. Nobody is pulling multiplats away from the X1, so I think it is time for the Cows to stop being so dillusional and understand that this is going to be a long, long race of atleast 8-10 years. Nintendo's WiiU wont be a factor because Nintendo will have to come out with a more powerful console in the next 3 years to remain even half relevant!

It's not that PS4 is pulling multiplats away. It's that PS4 appears to be a way better system to play them on. Better multiplats was a big reason many people preferred the 360.

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#64 Posted by GreySeal9 (28247 posts) -

@DocSanchez said:

@GreySeal9: oh god everyone around you is in so much danger you sound so angry. Don't do anything rash!

I am truly disappointed that you choose to play these kind of games instead of open up to me.

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#66 Posted by YD_11 (1867 posts) -

@StrifeDelivery said:

@YD_11 said:

If people would wise up, it would be the ps4 that lags behind the others. Seriously, what are you guys playing on that thing that you can't play on the X1? Not one AAAE game to speak of 7 months in.. and that's on Gamespot that seems to prefer anything sony. I won't even mention how sony lags behind in software updates and overall functionality of their system. Greatness awaits and waits and waits

Ah yes, because all 7 million sales of the PS4, all those people religiously follow the rules and decorum of SW, especially enough so to care what games are AAAE and AAE.

No and i didn't mean to imply they would. Just used it as a measurement for the system. I personally know people who haven't touched their ps4 in months and what i said helps explain that. the point is, the X1 is a better console with better games, better online, better maintenance, and better features (though without a kinect that does diminish); therefore the ps4 should logically be the system to fall behind imo

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#67 Posted by DocSanchez (3577 posts) -

@GreySeal9: I'm teaching you the futility of your stupid original tone argument. Don't you get it yet?

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#68 Posted by gfxpipeline (317 posts) -

@ShoTTyMcNaDeS said:

My prediction.....

1. X1

2. PS4

3. WiiU

The Xbox 360:

* Was rushed out the door a year early in the US and Japan to pad out its installed base numbers

* A year and a half in Europe compared to the PS3

* Was 200 dollars cheaper than the PS3

* Had the luxury of the RRoD and absurd amount of other hardware problems that inflated its installed base numbers by tens of millions due to Xbox owners buying 3,4,5 or more duplicate Xbox 360 models in the desperate hope of finally having one that worked properly

* Third party 'parity agreement's that mandated games be gimped down to Xbox 360 levels in features and graphics

All that and Microsoft still ended up in last place.

None of that is true this gen.

The absolute best case for the Xbox One is maybe hitting first Xbox installed base numbers this gen. That is if Elop doesn't dump the Xbox before this gen ends.

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#69 Edited by GreySeal9 (28247 posts) -

@DocSanchez said:

@GreySeal9: I'm teaching you the futility of your stupid original tone argument. Don't you get it yet?

Your argument is immensely silly: anger can be expressed through words, hence why a person might say they received an angry letter, or why anger can be expressed through written dialogue. Your posts come off as angry based on their content. Are you actually angry in real life? I have no idea but I was commenting on your posts.

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#70 Posted by Bigboi500 (35550 posts) -

Wii U will end up third place. It doesn't matter though because Xbox One will still have shitty exclusives and Wii U will still have excellent exclusives that are more fun to play. Nintendo will continue to make the best console franchises in the industry.

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#71 Edited by asexualrobot (25 posts) -

Docsanchez and Birdo used to be an item. Then prom night caused him to be immensely angry. The unending series of lame internet posts is merely one manifestation of his crushed ego and subsequent lust for vengeance.

Anywho. No one really knows who is going where this generation. It's still pretty early, and more plot twists will follow. Plus, if you were so sure of your predictions, you could easily buy/short their respective stocks and make some real money.

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#72 Posted by GreySeal9 (28247 posts) -

@asexualrobot said:

Docsanchez and Birdo used to be an item. Then prom night caused him to be immensely angry. The unending series of lame internet posts is merely one manifestation of his crushed ego and subsequent lust for vengeance.

Interesting theory. I like it.

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#73 Posted by DocSanchez (3577 posts) -

@GreySeal9: You have absolutely no idea whether I am angry. You are extrapolating this idiocy purely from me (a) coming on here and (b) bashing Nintendo.

I don't attack any single person, be it a poster or a person at Nintendo. I don't use choice language. I don't even type in capitals. And I'm not angry. Ergo, this is a lazy, frankly boring line of conversation by a person out of his depth. Either discuss games, or leave it. Don't come on here complaining and imagining people's fury when you can't even see them and have no evidence to it.

You and many sheep on here cannot help but resort to personal attacks because you know Nintendo's position is so fragile any argument based on them you are bound to lose. You have no ammo to defend Nintendo. You come on to a board like system wars, which is about rivalry and expect everyone to be nice and diplomatic only to your own sacred cow. You're happy to bash sony or "M$" but want everyone to back of Nintendo.

Well I'm not interested in a personal argument. Take it elsewhere. I wont attack you or call you names, I don't know you. Aside from trying to appeal to your better nature by showing you the futility of a tone argument I wont insinuate things about you or your mentality. I'm only here to talk games and consoles. Can't handle it? Get over it.

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#74 Posted by DocSanchez (3577 posts) -

@asexualrobot: If you think insinuating I am gay will bother me you have another thing coming. Insinuate away. But it's pretty embarrassing on your part that you think it's a slur.

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#75 Posted by asexualrobot (25 posts) -

^As if your arguments had any substance beyond trolling.

Really, if you are so sure, why are you still wasting your life with endless posts? Go short Nintendo stock. It'd be easy money.

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#76 Edited by GreySeal9 (28247 posts) -

@DocSanchez said:

@GreySeal9: You have absolutely no idea whether I am angry. You are extrapolating this idiocy purely from me (a) coming on here and (b) bashing Nintendo.

I don't attack any single person, be it a poster or a person at Nintendo. I don't use choice language. I don't even type in capitals. And I'm not angry. Ergo, this is a lazy, frankly boring line of conversation by a person out of his depth. Either discuss games, or leave it. Don't come on here complaining and imagining people's fury when you can't even see them and have no evidence to it.

You and many sheep on here cannot help but resort to personal attacks because you know Nintendo's position is so fragile any argument based on them you are bound to lose. You have no ammo to defend Nintendo. You come on to a board like system wars, which is about rivalry and expect everyone to be nice and diplomatic only to your own sacred cow. You're happy to bash sony or "M$" but want everyone to back of Nintendo.

Well I'm not interested in a personal argument. Take it elsewhere. I wont attack you or call you names, I don't know you. Aside from trying to appeal to your better nature by showing you the futility of a tone argument I wont insinuate things about you or your mentality. I'm only here to talk games and consoles. Can't handle it? Get over it.

Haha. Wow. You take this System Wars shit SERIOUSLY.

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#77 Posted by asexualrobot (25 posts) -

Too bad Gamespot frowns on independent entrepreneurs. DocSanchez and his ilk would pay top dollar for Mario, Luigi, Link, etc. voodoo dolls.

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#78 Edited by GreySeal9 (28247 posts) -

@DocSanchez said:

@asexualrobot: If you think insinuating I am gay will bother me you have another thing coming. Insinuate away. But it's pretty embarrassing on your part that you think it's a slur.

Uh...pretty sure Birdo is a female...

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#79 Posted by DocSanchez (3577 posts) -

@asexualrobot: Endless posts? The guy you've jumped in to white knight has made 23000 to my 1200.

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#80 Posted by asexualrobot (25 posts) -

This DocSanchez guy is a loudmouth jerk

-Phil Fish

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#81 Posted by AzatiS (11219 posts) -

Wii U will be almost dead in 2 years ... i dont think will end up second ...

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#82 Posted by DocSanchez (3577 posts) -

@GreySeal9: No. And let's just say the guy chose Birdo for a very specific reason. Homophobia.

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#83 Posted by PS4hasNOgames (2620 posts) -

theres just no way wii u will beat X1 in sales.

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#85 Posted by asexualrobot (25 posts) -

I chose Birdo because Birdo is sexually ambiguous. Lots of loudmouthed jerks define themselves through their heterosexuality (or much less likely, their homosexuality). The presence of Birdo causes them to react with anger.

You know, the type of all-encompassing, illogical anger you spew at that unnamed company.

Plus you justified your dumbass posts with all sorts of pseudo-intellectual babble.

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#86 Posted by DocSanchez (3577 posts) -

@asexualrobot: This conversation is beyond boring. It's belittling me being a part of it. You know why you chose birdo, and I do, and I bet most others do. There is no logical reason you did for "ambiguity" purposes. You are just spewing at this point, and I've literally no interest in carrying on with you as it's achieving nothing.

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#87 Posted by blackace (23057 posts) -

There are a few options missing. I'll take the last option.

- Neither system

- Who gives a f$%&.

- Cows are still butthurt from the thrashing they received last gen. lol!!

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#88 Posted by blackace (23057 posts) -

@GreySeal9 said:

@ShoTTyMcNaDeS said:

My prediction.....

1. X1

2. PS4

3. WiiU

Sony as usual is far to full of them selves and as usual will over promise and under deliver just like they did with the PS3!! MS has Halo, Gears, Fable, Forza, Sunset Overdrive and Quantum Break just to name a few exclusive franchises that are known. Nobody is pulling multiplats away from the X1, so I think it is time for the Cows to stop being so dillusional and understand that this is going to be a long, long race of atleast 8-10 years. Nintendo's WiiU wont be a factor because Nintendo will have to come out with a more powerful console in the next 3 years to remain even half relevant!

It's not that PS4 is pulling multiplats away. It's that PS4 appears to be a way better system to play them on. Better multiplats was a big reason many some people preferred the 360.

Yes, yet over 80 million gamers still bought a PS3, so what do you think will have with the XB1? lol!! It's not rocket science.

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#89 Posted by Mercuria1_King (278 posts) -

The Xbox One is going to be number one soon!

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#90 Posted by DocSanchez (3577 posts) -

@mercuria1_king: I disagree but I don't think it will be as far apart as people think. Certainly will be PS4 X1 as one and two. Just think PS4 has not only the head start but also the momentum.

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#91 Edited by AzatiS (11219 posts) -

@GreySeal9 said:

@ShoTTyMcNaDeS said:

My prediction.....

1. X1

2. PS4

3. WiiU

Sony as usual is far to full of them selves and as usual will over promise and under deliver just like they did with the PS3!! MS has Halo, Gears, Fable, Forza, Sunset Overdrive and Quantum Break just to name a few exclusive franchises that are known. Nobody is pulling multiplats away from the X1, so I think it is time for the Cows to stop being so dillusional and understand that this is going to be a long, long race of atleast 8-10 years. Nintendo's WiiU wont be a factor because Nintendo will have to come out with a more powerful console in the next 3 years to remain even half relevant!

It's not that PS4 is pulling multiplats away. It's that PS4 appears to be a way better system to play them on. Better multiplats was a big reason many some people preferred the 360.

I disagree.

Most gamers went towards 360 because of PS3 ridiculous price and lack of games its first almost 3 years. If we add the fact that PS3 lost major exclusives to X360 and was considerably more expensive for years there you have it ... Also PS3 lost momentum when first multis looked better on X360 ( slightly even but still ) but there were some multis that were looking way better on PS3 ( if developers cared to put some more effort that is )

This generation is totally different. PS4 has an appealing price and is clearly ahead of X1 in terms of power while its an easy platform for developers. The ideal , cheap platform that is powerful.

PS4 winning because of price along with MS mistakes both in policies that they got forced to reverse and hardware specifications of the X1 along with ... yes price.

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#92 Edited by gfxpipeline (317 posts) -
@AzatiS said:

I disagree.

Most gamers went towards 360 because of PS3 ridiculous price and lack of games its first almost 3 years.

Why would you sit in a forum spouting opinions and not have even have bothered to make the most basic effort to see that reality shows exactly the opposite of what you are claiming?

The PS3 outsold the Xbox 360 by two million consoles in its very first year - all while being 200 dollars more expensive.

The PS3 outsold the Xbox 360 every single year on the market.

@AzatiS said: PS4 winning because of price

The PS3 was more expensive than the Xbox 360 - Sony beat Microsoft.

The Xbox One was more expensive than the PS4 - Sony is beating Microsoft.

The Xbox launched after the PS2 - Sony beat Microsoft.

The PS3 launched after the Xbox 360 - Sony beat Microsoft.

So, no, the PS4 isn't winning because of price or Microsoft 'misteps'.

Sony has been the top selling console maker in the world non-stop since 1994 when they entered the market with the PS1 - with the single exception of the three years of so that the Wii fad was in full force. While Microsoft just barely avoided last place with the first Xbox disaster, came in last place with the Xbox 360, and is in last place with the Xbox One.

If you are going to make assertions they sure as hell better not fly in the face of reality.

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#93 Posted by GreySeal9 (28247 posts) -

@AzatiS said:

@GreySeal9 said:

@ShoTTyMcNaDeS said:

My prediction.....

1. X1

2. PS4

3. WiiU

Sony as usual is far to full of them selves and as usual will over promise and under deliver just like they did with the PS3!! MS has Halo, Gears, Fable, Forza, Sunset Overdrive and Quantum Break just to name a few exclusive franchises that are known. Nobody is pulling multiplats away from the X1, so I think it is time for the Cows to stop being so dillusional and understand that this is going to be a long, long race of atleast 8-10 years. Nintendo's WiiU wont be a factor because Nintendo will have to come out with a more powerful console in the next 3 years to remain even half relevant!

It's not that PS4 is pulling multiplats away. It's that PS4 appears to be a way better system to play them on. Better multiplats was a big reason many some people preferred the 360.

I disagree.

Most gamers went towards 360 because of PS3 ridiculous price and lack of games its first almost 3 years. If we add the fact that PS3 lost major exclusives to X360 and was considerably more expensive for years there you have it ... Also PS3 lost momentum when first multis looked better on X360 ( slightly even but still ) but there were some multis that were looking way better on PS3 ( if developers cared to put some more effort that is )

This generation is totally different. PS4 has an appealing price and is clearly ahead of X1 in terms of power .

PS4 winning because of price along with MS mistakes both in policies that they got forced to reverse and hardware specifications of the X1 along with ... yes price.

I'm not arguing that multiplats are the biggest reason, just that they are one factor of many. There are a myriad of reasons why the PS4 is beating the X1.

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#94 Edited by AzatiS (11219 posts) -

@gfxpipeline said:

@AzatiS said:

I disagree.

Most gamers went towards 360 because of PS3 ridiculous price and lack of games its first almost 3 years.

Why would you sit in a forum spouting opinions and not have even have bothered to make the most basic effort to see that reality shows exactly the opposite of what you are claiming?

The PS3 outsold the Xbox 360 by two million consoles in its very first year - all while being 200 dollars more expensive.

The PS3 outsold the Xbox 360 every single year on the market.

Opinions ? Im talking only facts. PS3 with 130/140 million PS2 userbase , epic hype behind it , promises that never happened ( extraordinary graphics like no other system etc ) failed !!! It was such a struggle to sale that they took drastic measures ( similar to X1 now ) to cut down BC and some other stuff from the console in order to make it cheaper in order to sale.

Having 140m userbase ready to jump to next console while ending up with almost half of it after almost 9 years is pathetic. Exactly the same things i happening to Nintendo right now.

If you dont remember Sonys PS3 struggle you can google.

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#95 Posted by blackace (23057 posts) -

@gfxpipeline said:

@AzatiS said:

I disagree.

Most gamers went towards 360 because of PS3 ridiculous price and lack of games its first almost 3 years.

Why would you sit in a forum spouting opinions and not have even have bothered to make the most basic effort to see that reality shows exactly the opposite of what you are claiming?

The PS3 outsold the Xbox 360 by two million consoles in its very first year - all while being 200 dollars more expensive.

The PS3 outsold the Xbox 360 every single year on the market.

Someone needs to be reeducated about the gaming industry. Maybe you live in Japan.

busting up

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#96 Posted by gfxpipeline (317 posts) -

PS3 first year sales - 10.5 million.

Xbox 360 first year sales - 8.5 million.

Let me guess...you get your console 'sales data' from the little 20 year old kid Xbox fanboy who makes up fake numbers at vgchartz.

And LOL at being dumb enough to not have any other response than a gif.

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#97 Posted by xhawk27 (8874 posts) -

Not until Nintendo gets rid of that cheap gimmick tablet controller.

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#98 Posted by gfxpipeline (317 posts) -

@AzatiS said:

Opinions ? Im talking only facts. PS3 with 130/140 million PS2 userbase , epic hype behind it , promises that never happened ( extraordinary graphics like no other system etc ) failed !!! It was such a struggle to sale that they took drastic measures ( similar to X1 now ) to cut down BC and some other stuff from the console in order to make it cheaper in order to sale.

Having 140m userbase ready to jump to next console while ending up with almost half of it after almost 9 years is pathetic. Exactly the same things i happening to Nintendo right now.

If you dont remember Sonys PS3 struggle you can google.

Not even going to bother trying to make sense of that rambling stream of text.

PS2 155 million in sales over 13 years(2000 to 2013) - 11.92 million consoles year.

PS3 85 million in sales over 7 years(2007 to 2014) - do the math...

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#99 Posted by Indicud (745 posts) -

Blabdaon getting owned is pretty funny.

What a baby

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#100 Edited by Sagemode87 (1280 posts) -

@blackace: What thrashing? PS3 sold more than 360 or tied it after releasing a year later and having several disadvantages. PS3 also outsold 360 year after year once released. Get educated and learn what thrashing means junior. Being released simultaneously and just about doubling X1s sales like what PS4 is doing can be considered thrashing.