Worldwide PS4 sales at least 40 percent better than Xbox One

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#1  Edited By MlauTheDaft
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I can't make headlines like this up, so here's Ars Technica!

Estimating Xboxes

"Determining those ratios was not a simple process. As a starting point, we used Microsoft's announcement that it had shipped five million units of the Xbox One as of mid-April. Since then, the company has only released quarterly reports on how many total Xbox systems have shipped, lumping the Xbox 360 and the Xbox One together, which obscures the new console's true market performance.

For the April to June quarter, there were 1.1 million combined Xbox shipments. For the July through September quarter, there were 2.4 million combined Xbox shipments. Add all those numbers together, and you get an absolute ceiling of 8.5 million potential Xbox One shipments through September. For the new system to hit that ceiling, though, you'd have to assume that Microsoft has shipped exactly zero Xbox 360 units in the last six months, which is obviously false.So how many Xbox 360 units did Microsoft ship in that time? We don't know for sure, but we can try to extrapolate from the previous years' performance. From quarterly reports, we know that Microsoft shipped 2.3 million Xbox 360 units in the April to September time frame in 2013. That's down from 2.8 million during the same six-month period in 2012..........."

Pondering PlayStations

"For the PlayStation 4, the estimation process is a little simpler. Sony announced on August 12 that it had sold 10 million PS4 units through to consumers worldwide. That announcement came 130 days after the company announced seven million sales, meaning Sony had sold an average of just over 23,000 PS4 units a day in the intervening period.

Even assuming PS4 sales absolutely cratered after that, selling half as quickly, Sony would still have sold about 560,000 additional PS4 units in the 49 days from August 12 to the end of September. Add that, and we get a floor of about 10.56 million PS4s sold through the end of September, compared to a ceiling of about 7.42 million Xbox One units sold by the same time.

Dividing those numbers out leaves us with the PS4 selling about 42 percent better than the Xbox One, with Sony's system representing about 59 percent of the two-console market. And remember, this estimate is making assumptions that are quite generous to the Xbox One and quite pessimistic for the PlayStation 4. The real ratio might be even less encouraging for Microsoft..........."

I think this is good SW material and there's more to the article of course :)

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#2 MonsieurX
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*Estimated

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#3  Edited By Chutebox  Online
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Why would they use a ceiling for one and floor for the other?

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#4 Daious
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@Chutebox said:

Why would they use a ceiling for one and floor for the other?

I am a tad bit curious as well.

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That's a lot of people with no games

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#6  Edited By StormyJoe
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@MlauTheDaft: Not as far apart as cows said it was.

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#7 PapaTrop
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MS should spend more on advertising.

That's where Sony is really outpacing them.

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Means nothing

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#9 KBFloYd
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thats pretty good for xbox...thats quite close.

i think it passed wiiU already.

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#10 DEadliNE-Zero0
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@papatrop said:

MS should spend more on advertising.

That's where Sony is really outpacing them.

MS needs to tell them greatness is coming on xbox one, and then keep them waiting

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#11  Edited By RR360DD
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I guess you would be reduced to playing sales when your system has no games :(

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@deadline-zero0 said:

@papatrop said:

MS should spend more on advertising.

That's where Sony is really outpacing them.

MS needs to tell them greatness is coming on xbox one, and then keep them waiting

Keep them awaiting, more like it.

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#13 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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Wouldn't be surprised if in reality it was further than this. MS are turning the ship around by damn did they keep ramming it on to the rocks over and over for a long time. I can't see anyone catching Sony this time around unless they have a whole nuclear arsenal hidden up their sleeves.

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@RR360DD said:

I guess you would be reduced to playing sales when your system has no games :(

Lems would be the experts after having so much experience in the 2nd half of last gen :P

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All I see is the both the PS4 and XONE selling well, with the PS4 in the lead. It's best to be unbaised in this situation by owning both consoles.

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@StormyJoe said:

@MlauTheDaft: Not as far apart as cows said it was.

Probably should understand what floor and ceiling mean.

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Most countries where PS4 outsells Xbox no matter what were raised in the 1990s in such an environment where it was perfectly OK to think Sony is great and everyone else is shit, a sentiment which many "magazines" shared and their readers followed to the letter. This is a huge factor in shaping the mentality of those people and I used to think like that too. So there was one layer - hatred of PCs and the second layer was putting PlayStation above anything else and I guess it's now a habit more than anything else. PS if you hadn't lived in continental Europe in the 1990s, then don't even try to undermine what I've just said.

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@MonsieurX said:

*Estimated

Indeed.

PS4 is probably leading with a lot more.

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@Chutebox said:

Why would they use a ceiling for one and floor for the other?

Because just like the XBone's game library, it's sales need to be graded on a curve as well. "Hooray for the under dog" and all that.

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Sony has to be at more then that. August 12 they announced it had sold through over 10 million. And in September they sold over 500k in North America alone

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@Chutebox said:

Why would they use a ceiling for one and floor for the other?

One can only wonder ;)

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@stereointegrity said:

Sony has to be at more then that. August 12 they announced it had sold through over 10 million. And in September they sold over 500k in North America alone

He shoots, he scores.

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stupid chart, use the ceiling for both

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#25  Edited By FoxbatAlpha
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Those 11 million PS4 owners are going to look like this soon.

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Damn TC, SONY, the current gen 8 console leader with the PS4 is on a ROLL

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butt hurt lems ^^^

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@FoxbatAlpha said:

Those 11 million PS4 owners are going to look like this soon.

Must be one of Nadella's female employees.

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@Shewgenja said:

@FoxbatAlpha said:

Those 11 million PS4 owners are going to look like this soon.

Must be one of Nadella's female employees.

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@StormyJoe said:

@MlauTheDaft: Not as far apart as cows said it was.

No those 7.45 million are first not confirmed since the number of xbox one shipped this pass quarter is unknown,and second because those are shipped numbers not SOLD to consumer the PS4 sold to consumers 10 million in August 10,that mean that sales from 21 days of August + September are missing from those numbers,in fact in September alone the PS4 probably 1 million units,since in US alone they some more than half a million,and contrary to the xbox one most sales of the PS4 are outside US.

So even if those numbers are true for the xbox they are not true for the PS4 which will probably be at 11.4 or 11.5 million sold to consumer not just shipped,didn't you learn anything from MS 5 million shipped numbers.?

Since when they shipped 5.1 million units.? March 30 on June 3 months latter those numbers were still the same,because the channels were stuffed,if MS really has ship 7.45 million units 1.4 million or 1.3 are shipped sitting in store shelves unsold and who knows if more.

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#32 funkmaster1233
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@lostrib said:

That's a lot of people with no games

You gotta hand it to Sony for using memes to sell all of those consoles.

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#33  Edited By kuu2
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Estimate are so cool. Numbers are meaningless unless they are accurate.

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#34  Edited By SolidTy
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@Chutebox said:

Why would they use a ceiling for one and floor for the other?

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#35 SolidTy
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@Chutebox said:

Why would they use a ceiling for one and floor for the other?

@stereointegrity said:

Sony has to be at more then that. August 12 they announced it had sold through over 10 million. And in September they sold over 500k in North America alone

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Hype sells.

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Meh means nothing... long way to go.

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@SolidTy said:

@Chutebox said:

Why would they use a ceiling for one and floor for the other?

@stereointegrity said:

Sony has to be at more then that. August 12 they announced it had sold through over 10 million. And in September they sold over 500k in North America alone

They used ceiling and floor because this is the absolute closest the Xbone could be. It mathematically can't be any closer, and is likely much further behind since probably half those sales are 360's due to MS needing to spin its horrible numbers.

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PC sales above both.

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No one wants to play in 792p/30fps in 2014. Sorry MS but you f*ckedup.

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@tormentos said:

@StormyJoe said:

@MlauTheDaft: Not as far apart as cows said it was.

No those 7.45 million are first not confirmed since the number of xbox one shipped this pass quarter is unknown,and second because those are shipped numbers not SOLD to consumer the PS4 sold to consumers 10 million in August 10,that mean that sales from 21 days of August + September are missing from those numbers,in fact in September alone the PS4 probably 1 million units,since in US alone they some more than half a million,and contrary to the xbox one most sales of the PS4 are outside US.

So even if those numbers are true for the xbox they are not true for the PS4 which will probably be at 11.4 or 11.5 million sold to consumer not just shipped,didn't you learn anything from MS 5 million shipped numbers.?

Since when they shipped 5.1 million units.? March 30 on June 3 months latter those numbers were still the same,because the channels were stuffed,if MS really has ship 7.45 million units 1.4 million or 1.3 are shipped sitting in store shelves unsold and who knows if more.

Bullshit. You cows were saying how the PS4 was selling over 2:1, and that is not the case.