World of Warcraft Subscriptions Decrease By 800,000

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#1 Posted by Shielder7 (5152 posts) -

World of Warcraft Subscriptions Decrease By 800,000

Fall in subscribers attributed to the end of life of the current expansion.

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By Jimmy ChampaneWorld of Warcraft lost 800,000 subscribers during the April-June quarter, publisher Activision Blizzard announced today in its latest earnings report. As of June 30, the total subscriber count was down to 6.8 million from 7.8 million as of this past February.

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The drop in subscribers is attributed to the end of life of the current expansion, and the decrease is in line with the last expansion's decrease during its transition phase.

Despite the slip in subscriber numbers, Blizzard says that revenues for World of Warcraft are up thanks to over 1.5 million pre-orders of the upcoming Warlords of Draenor expansion. The release date will be announced very soon; remember, pre-ordering gets you an early boost to level 90. Be sure to check out IGN's preview of Warlords for more on how it's making the old game new again.

#2 Posted by WallofTruth (1582 posts) -

Never played the game but that's still sad to hear.

#3 Posted by uninspiredcup (8363 posts) -

Attempting to sell gold power leveling 90 powerboosts, £1000 mounts, £1000 armours on top of a £20 monthly fee and an expansion pack for a near decade old game costing 300% the price of a full game could be part of the reason.

Realm Reborn for winners my friends.

#4 Posted by Ballroompirate (22788 posts) -

Everyone is playing the vastly superior MMO that is FF14 ARR. Also I've said this for years, no MMO can be a WoW killer, just sit back and watch Blizzard kill it.

#5 Posted by LegatoSkyheart (25201 posts) -

Everyone just got bored. Bigger and Better MMOs to play now.

#6 Posted by Mr_Huggles_dog (1069 posts) -

Yup...and I'm one of them.

Unless my Girlfriend wants me to play with her while we're apart I don't think I'll be going back to Azeroth any time soon.

#7 Edited by uninspiredcup (8363 posts) -

@Ballroompirate said:

Everyone is playing the vastly superior MMO that is FF14 ARR. Also I've said this for years, no MMO can be a WoW killer, just sit back and watch Blizzard kill it.

Unless shit like Elder Scrolls Online as well (aside from obviously being superior) FF14 offers good value.

£49.99 for a game + £20 upgrade for locked class and mount + £9 month sub?

Get teh fuk.

#8 Posted by Ballroompirate (22788 posts) -

@Ballroompirate said:

Everyone is playing the vastly superior MMO that is FF14 ARR. Also I've said this for years, no MMO can be a WoW killer, just sit back and watch Blizzard kill it.

Unless shit like Elder Scrolls Online as well (aside from obviously being superior) FF14 offers good value.

£49.99 for a game + £20 upgrade for locked class and mount + £9 month sub?

Get teh fuk.

Da fuq did you just try to say

#9 Edited by MBirdy88 (8096 posts) -

@uninspiredcup said:

Attempting to sell gold power leveling 90 powerboosts, £1000 mounts, £1000 armours on top of a £20 monthly fee and an expansion pack for a near decade old game costing 300% the price of a full game could be part of the reason.

Realm Reborn for winners my friends.

@Ballroompirate said:

Everyone is playing the vastly superior MMO that is FF14 ARR. Also I've said this for years, no MMO can be a WoW killer, just sit back and watch Blizzard kill it.

I'd love to live in that little fanboy bubble as a player of FFXIV myself... but lol no.... not even in the top 10 revanue.

And the content is currently crap. other than turn 2 .... barely anything challenging in the game.... and the stupid hunt system that has turned progression into a joke.... 1 year later and we still only have 1 4 boss 5 turn raid as progression.... utterly bad.

Meanwhile, they keep ploughing more and more easy content with no purpose as practically everyone outgears it all.... the last 6 odd dungeons have been a joke (difficulty wise) .... nothing to do but dailies, hunts and grind other classes.

The Primal EX's are good.... though near pointless to repeat unless you have a very tacky "collect all the coloured unicorns" fetish.

The game is a casual mess, and will never be flocked to. that being said... I enjoy it when I feel like killing some braincells in a pretty mmo.

#10 Posted by airshocker (29507 posts) -

@uninspiredcup said:

@Ballroompirate said:

Everyone is playing the vastly superior MMO that is FF14 ARR. Also I've said this for years, no MMO can be a WoW killer, just sit back and watch Blizzard kill it.

Unless shit like Elder Scrolls Online as well (aside from obviously being superior) FF14 offers good value.

£49.99 for a game + £20 upgrade for locked class and mount + £9 month sub?

Get teh fuk.

Da fuq did you just try to say

^ my response every time I read an uninspiredcup post.

#11 Posted by NFJSupreme (5311 posts) -

I used to be hard core into wow and might even go back for a month just to see the expansion but mmos are just to time consuming. Especially one set up like wow where you have to keep playing and if you don't, you have to grind harder just to catch up

#12 Posted by Silverbond (16049 posts) -

Haven't played since the end of Cata personally.

#13 Posted by MrYaotubo (2687 posts) -

But like the article states,the pre orders for the upcoming expansion are already over 1.5 Million,so once it releases it will go up again,as usual.

#14 Posted by lostrib (36202 posts) -

Well the game is going a decade old. Plus it still has millions of subscribers, and I suspect quite a few will come back when the next expansion releases

#15 Posted by lostrib (36202 posts) -

@Ballroompirate said:

@uninspiredcup said:

Unless shit like Elder Scrolls Online as well (aside from obviously being superior) FF14 offers good value.

£49.99 for a game + £20 upgrade for locked class and mount + £9 month sub?

Get teh fuk.

Da fuq did you just try to say

^ my response every time I read an uninspiredcup post.

it's like he had a stroke writing the first sentence

#16 Posted by Ballroompirate (22788 posts) -

@MBirdy88: If you're going by that 2013 MMO revenue report, then FF14 ARR wouldn't be on it cause it was released so late in 2013. Even then, there's 2 million subs so I have no idea where your got your BS source.

I really doubt you're in full ilvl 110 gear clearing savage mode coil. Considering we're getting content every 4 months is pretty awesome compared to other MMO's who are lucky to get 2 updates a year.

#17 Edited by MBirdy88 (8096 posts) -

@MBirdy88: If you're going by that 2013 MMO revenue report, then FF14 ARR wouldn't be on it cause it was released so late in 2013. Even then, there's 2 million subs so I have no idea where your got your BS source.

I really doubt you're in full ilvl 110 gear clearing savage mode coil. Considering we're getting content every 4 months is pretty awesome compared to other MMO's who are lucky to get 2 updates a year.

1) They do not have 2 million subscribers... they have over 2 million registered players who have a registered cd key. well he suggested its around 2.7 million at this point, but point is this includes all 1.X players who bought it and havn't touched ARR. and everyone who is not active subscribers.

2) Honestly... if "Savage Mode" is not a cop out in your mind then I don't think we will ever agree... as the point isn't sadist level difficulty to brag. its about a varied raiding end-game that is non existant. 6 months gaps.... with only 4 8 man bosses.... is absolutely crap for a PvE focused MMO. yes the primals and their extremes add to that. but no 24 man content worth a damn other than "looking for raid" level Sycrus tower nonsense that is pugged.

There is a reason next to no one streams it....

#18 Edited by uninspiredcup (8363 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@airshocker said:

@Ballroompirate said:

@uninspiredcup said:

Unless shit like Elder Scrolls Online as well (aside from obviously being superior) FF14 offers good value.

£49.99 for a game + £20 upgrade for locked class and mount + £9 month sub?

Get teh fuk.

Da fuq did you just try to say

^ my response every time I read an uninspiredcup post.

it's like he had a stroke writing the first sentence

This is how Scottish people speak.

#19 Posted by lostrib (36202 posts) -

@lostrib said:

it's like he had a stroke writing the first sentence

This is how Scottish people speak.

...however you're typing

#20 Posted by uninspiredcup (8363 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@uninspiredcup said:

@lostrib said:

it's like he had a stroke writing the first sentence

This is how Scottish people speak.

...however you're typing

This is true. However, it annoyed you and gained me attention.

Thus, I am the best.

#21 Posted by lostrib (36202 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@uninspiredcup said:

@lostrib said:

it's like he had a stroke writing the first sentence

This is how Scottish people speak.

...however you're typing

This is true. However, it annoyed you and gained me attention.

Thus, I am the best.

Didn't annoy me

#22 Posted by CrownKingArthur (4711 posts) -

is he Glaswegian?

#23 Posted by Daious (1263 posts) -

Give me Warcraft 4.

#24 Edited by uninspiredcup (8363 posts) -

Fuck knows. He became known for his colorful interview after winning a fight and being a part time mailman entering the commonwealth games.

#25 Posted by Ballroompirate (22788 posts) -

@daious said:

Give me Warcraft 4.

One can dream.../cry

#26 Posted by Bruin1986 (1274 posts) -

Does anyone have a running tally of the number of shameless rip-off MMOs that have released in the decade since Vanilla attempting to "kill" Wow?

#27 Posted by uninspiredcup (8363 posts) -

Does anyone have a running tally of the number of shameless rip-off MMOs that have released in the decade since Vanilla attempting to "kill" Wow?

World Of Warcraft didn't invent that style of MMO, it merely popularized it.

#28 Posted by CrownKingArthur (4711 posts) -

ok man.

#29 Posted by Bruin1986 (1274 posts) -

@Bruin1986 said:

Does anyone have a running tally of the number of shameless rip-off MMOs that have released in the decade since Vanilla attempting to "kill" Wow?

World Of Warcraft didn't invent that style of MMO, it merely popularized it.

As a player of the original Everquest, I'm more than familiar with this fact.

However...

if by "popularized" you mean turned a Ford Pinto into a Mclaren P1.

At times, WoW has had higher subscription numbers than all other major entries in the MMO genre COMBINED.

That's not accidental. Nor the result the mere marketing.

Blizzard made a product that apparently no other developer could touch.

#30 Posted by madsnakehhh (14288 posts) -

@daious said:

Give me Warcraft 4.

I've been saying that for over a decade now :(

#31 Posted by silversix_ (14331 posts) -

almost 7M nerds still play this pos? I don't get it, how obsessed must you be? Stop playing wow and go buy an Xbone to help the sinking ship god dammit.

#32 Posted by Daious (1263 posts) -

@daious said:

Give me Warcraft 4.

I've been saying that for over a decade now :(

Probably one of the best (if not the best) game I have played. I loved it so much.

#33 Posted by Cloud_imperium (2995 posts) -

Don't worry , those numbers will increase once again when WOD expansion comes out .

#34 Edited by Cloud_imperium (2995 posts) -
@daious said:

@madsnakehhh said:

@daious said:

Give me Warcraft 4.

I've been saying that for over a decade now :(

Probably one of the best (if not the best) game I have played. I loved it so much.

There are rumors that Blizzard is working on Warcraft 4 . Few months ago , one of their employee , during live stream said "We have Warcraft 4 in the making" . Soon after that , players started to make threads about it and linked the video . That video was later removed by Blizzard and they didn't answer anything .

Whether it was a mistake or confirmation of next Warcraft game , we'll find soon enough at Blizzcon .

#35 Posted by AdrianWerner (28033 posts) -

I think it's insane that 10 years old game still manages to retain this many subscribers. And couple millions will alway resubscribe for few months after new expansion launches

#36 Posted by PapaTrop (926 posts) -

A lot of Blizzard's decisions as of the last couple years have been made with an eye on short-term revenue in favor of long-term.

That's their biggest problem in managing this game. They have essentially removed leveling, server communities, and dramatically lowered the need for party/raiding guilds to get gear so they could appeal to the casual gamer that wants to log in once a week when they're bored. Unfortunately the same audience of gamers that'll drop the game entirely if a new shiny game catches their eye.

It's not really any wonder that their subscription numbers have been declining for a few years now.

#37 Edited by uninspiredcup (8363 posts) -

Blizzard undoubtedly are a world class developers but they are also some of the greedyest fuckers around.

When people are getting burned on World Of Warcraft and other cheaper alternatives arrive, many people probably will move on.

#38 Edited by Wasdie (49802 posts) -

6.8 million subs for a game that came out in 2005. That's damn impressive.

It's even more impressive when you consider the massive amount of competition the game has had. So many other MMOs out there yet WoW still remains king.

Sadly its current state is really weird. The new content and expansion are solely focused on that existing fanbase. That is fine as they are the one still playing, but trying to start out as new player is damn near impossible. I tried. I tried leveling a completely new character to level 90. I made it to level 86 in nearly 6 days of in-game time. The grind is unbelievable. This is one game that is now only playable by those who have already invested the time.

#39 Edited by Cloud_imperium (2995 posts) -

@Wasdie: 2004 , not 2005 . The game is almost a decade old . No game will ever be as successful as WOW was . At least not anytime soon .

#40 Posted by AmazonAngry (945 posts) -

folks have realized the superiority of ffxiv...and also the superior way to play it on ps4.

#41 Edited by wis3boi (31301 posts) -

folks have realized the superiority of ffxiv...and also the superior way to play it on ps4.

#42 Posted by AdrianWerner (28033 posts) -

The funny thing is that in like 5 years, where the numbers finally drop to 2 mln or less Blizzard will just retool it to F2P and have 20 mln players then :D

#43 Edited by uninspiredcup (8363 posts) -

@amazonangry said:

folks have realized the superiority of ffxiv...and also the superior way to play it on ps4.

This is true. According to the sexually attractive Asain reviewer (a woman) you can use the thing with it for grinding.

Even thought pc's have laptops and Nvidia shield.

#44 Posted by princeofshapeir (13994 posts) -

Well no shit, it's almost been a year since 5.4 was released, with absolutely no new content since. This happened at the end of WOTLK and Cataclysm too. Subs will pick up again when WoD releases but I wish Blizzard would get their shit together and release expansions faster--WoD is going to release at least a year after Siege of Orgrimmar was released, which is pathetic.

#45 Edited by uninspiredcup (8363 posts) -

@MBirdy88 said:

@uninspiredcup said:

Attempting to sell gold power leveling 90 powerboosts, £1000 mounts, £1000 armours on top of a £20 monthly fee and an expansion pack for a near decade old game costing 300% the price of a full game could be part of the reason.

Realm Reborn for winners my friends.

@Ballroompirate said:

Everyone is playing the vastly superior MMO that is FF14 ARR. Also I've said this for years, no MMO can be a WoW killer, just sit back and watch Blizzard kill it.

I'd love to live in that little fanboy bubble as a player of FFXIV myself... but lol no.... not even in the top 10 revanue.

And the content is currently crap. other than turn 2 .... barely anything challenging in the game.... and the stupid hunt system that has turned progression into a joke.... 1 year later and we still only have 1 4 boss 5 turn raid as progression.... utterly bad.

Meanwhile, they keep ploughing more and more easy content with no purpose as practically everyone outgears it all.... the last 6 odd dungeons have been a joke (difficulty wise) .... nothing to do but dailies, hunts and grind other classes.

The Primal EX's are good.... though near pointless to repeat unless you have a very tacky "collect all the coloured unicorns" fetish.

The game is a casual mess, and will never be flocked to. that being said... I enjoy it when I feel like killing some braincells in a pretty mmo.

My friend, I specifically posted that because (being a massive wow fanboy) I knew offhand you would probably spent half an hour trying to convince everyone. Disappointment did not ensue.

#46 Edited by uninspiredcup (8363 posts) -

Well no shit, it's almost been a year since 5.4 was released, with absolutely no new content since. This happened at the end of WOTLK and Cataclysm too. Subs will pick up again when WoD releases but I wish Blizzard would get their shit together and release expansions faster--WoD is going to release at least a year after Siege of Orgrimmar was released, which is pathetic.

Realm Reborn patched houses in for free within months. World Of Warcraft makes you wait 7 years and pay 200% the price of a retail game.

#47 Posted by princeofshapeir (13994 posts) -

@princeofshapeir said:

Well no shit, it's almost been a year since 5.4 was released, with absolutely no new content since. This happened at the end of WOTLK and Cataclysm too. Subs will pick up again when WoD releases but I wish Blizzard would get their shit together and release expansions faster--WoD is going to release at least a year after Siege of Orgrimmar was released, which is pathetic.

Realm Reborn patched houses in for free within months. World Of Warcraft makes you wait 7 years and pay 200% the price of a retail game.

I really don't care what ARR is doing with their free updates; I'm just saying there's always a big drop in WoW subscriptions between the end of an expansion and the launch of a new one because Blizzard still can't figure out how to launch expansions faster. If you want to know why nearly a million players unsubscribed, that's it--no new content in a year.

#48 Posted by Kjranu (965 posts) -

I wish EA would bring back WAR.

#49 Posted by Ballroompirate (22788 posts) -

@princeofshapeir: Actually WoW subs have been dropping every quarterly for a good year if not more. I think there was maybe one gap when it actually went up briefly but went back down next quarterly. I use to be a big WoW/Blizzard fanboy but they have just been crap ever since Wotlk, WoD looks promising and I'll try it out but Blizzard is slowly killing off their cash cow and removing that "wow" factor it had from 2004-2007.

#50 Posted by CanYouDiglt (7396 posts) -

And in a few months when the expansion comes out the numbers will be right back up. Most of those are just getting in a rest before the expansion.