Wolfenstein new order or Doom? which is better reboot from bathesda?

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Poll Wolfenstein new order or Doom? which is better reboot from bathesda? (60 votes)

Doom 63%
Wolfenstein New order 37%

So my dear friends, since we all know Bathesda has rebooted 2 of classic FPS franchise this generation. 2 of first ever FPS in existence. both recieve very positive reviews from critics and even gamers alike. which one you think is better? which reboot you think bathesda did it better?

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I personally think Bathesda failed when it comes to rebooting wolfenstein. wolfenstein new order is imo mediocre shooter and not even a shadow of a great RTCW. its not even made by same developers. on other hand Doom reboot is easily the greatest Reboot i have ever seen in all generation. it show ID software did not loss the magic they had in 90s. I wish ID software themselve develop new wolfenstien. would be much better.

so what do you think my dear friends? which reboot is better?

lets vote and discuss

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#1 speedfog
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Close call, both great games but the New Order can't match RTCW, and DOOM feels better then DOOM 3, so I go with DOOM

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#2 foxhound_fox
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Bethesda did not make Doom. It is an id Software game, published by Bethesda.

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#3  Edited By Ghosts4ever
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@foxhound_fox said:

Bethesda did not make Doom. It is an id Software game, published by Bethesda.

thankyou captian obvious. i didnot knew that

beside i meant bathesda publish reboot. and its batheda decision to reboot both franchise.

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#4 uninspiredcup
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The New Order has every contemptible piece of modern FPS design attached to it.

Poopy game.

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#5 speedfreak48t5p
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Wolfenstein. Great game.

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#6 Heil68
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Both are great, but DOOM is better overall.

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@uninspiredcup said:

The New Order has every contemptible piece of modern FPS design attached to it.

Poopy game.

the starting of new order is COD united offensive rip off.

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#8  Edited By Flubbbs
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Wolfenstein was amazing. Doom is still sitting on my shelf unopened, havent had a chance to start it yet.

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#9 indzman
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WTNO + OB > DOOM 2016 > DEUS EX MD > SHADOW WARRIOR 2

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#10 deactivated-5e9044657a310
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New Doom was most over rated trash ever.

Lost Interest at about Level 4.

So repetitive, so uninspired, so dull.

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#11 Blabadon
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Doom 4 is an excellent game, New Order is a good one.

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#12 chikenfriedrice
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I love them both so much....but I have to go with Doom

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#13  Edited By Ghosts4ever
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@Nuck81 said:

New Doom was most over rated trash ever.

Lost Interest at about Level 4.

So repetitive, so uninspired, so dull.

Name me better FPS games today?

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#14 hrt_rulz01
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Wolfenstein... love that game so much. But Doom is great too.

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@Blabadon said:

Doom 4 is an excellent game, New Order is a good one.

and Shadow Warrior is fucking rubbish.

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#16  Edited By Ghosts4ever
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@jg4xchamp said:
@Blabadon said:

Doom 4 is an excellent game, New Order is a good one.

and Shadow Warrior is fucking rubbish.

better than new order.

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@ghosts4ever said:
@uninspiredcup said:

The New Order has every contemptible piece of modern FPS design attached to it.

Poopy game.

the starting of new order is COD united offensive rip off.

The irony being United Offensive was developed by Grey Matter, who prior developed RTCW.

An incomparably superior game - for men.

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I haven't played Wolfenstein the New Order, but I'm playing Doom right now and it's excellent

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#19  Edited By Ghosts4ever
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@uninspiredcup said:
@ghosts4ever said:
@uninspiredcup said:

The New Order has every contemptible piece of modern FPS design attached to it.

Poopy game.

the starting of new order is COD united offensive rip off.

The irony being United Offensive was developed by Grey Matter, who prior developed RTCW.

An incomparably superior game - for men.

RTCW was incredible, incredible game. outside of stealth parts.

however i believe Doom 2016 surpass it.

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#20 ninjaxams
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wolf easily

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#21 GarGx1
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I'm a massive RtCW fan, I spent years playing the multiplayer with a clan. To me Wolfenstein New Order is a mere shadow of the greatness that came before.

Doom is a better game.

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@ghosts4ever said:
@jg4xchamp said:
@Blabadon said:

Doom 4 is an excellent game, New Order is a good one.

and Shadow Warrior is fucking rubbish.

better than new order.

If you like your games to play shitty? Yeah man totally. I don't, I like my games to actually be enjoyable at the playing it part ; (

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#23 inggrish
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I'm gonna go with Wolfenstein. Amazing reboot, especially when it had to restart the franchise after the terror that was Wolfenstein 2009...

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#24  Edited By uninspiredcup
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@ghosts4ever said:
@uninspiredcup said:
@ghosts4ever said:
@uninspiredcup said:

The New Order has every contemptible piece of modern FPS design attached to it.

Poopy game.

the starting of new order is COD united offensive rip off.

The irony being United Offensive was developed by Grey Matter, who prior developed RTCW.

An incomparably superior game - for men.

RTCW was incredible, incredible game. outside of stealth parts.

however i believe Doom 2016 surpass it.

Eh. Not been too impressed with Doom. By virtue of "you can play it", beats New Order.

Very unbalanced weapons and the glory kills get boring.

RTCW stellar AI weapons, level design, pacing, secrets, atmosphere, sexy Nazi's and and Heinrich Himmler cameo.

Poo stealth which is barely in it, bit bullet spongy enemies and poor bosses (all 2 of them) are really the only blemish in one of the last true old school games designed for proper pc gamers.

New Order big shitty poo. Highly embarrassing.

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The New Order, I thought its premise was pretty original and it had better pacing and more gameplay variety.

DOOM has a great combat system and I am especially fond of the movement, but I also found it pretty repetitive in its environments and encounter design. Too many fights where it just throws everything at you with available ammo for everything, I kinda wish they had levels with only certain ammo types or enemy types to mix things up. Still haven't finished it and not sure that I will.

both games have good combat but If I just want to kill shit, I find Killing Floor 2 more satisfying than either. The New Order was more interesting in the ways surrounding the combat.

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I honestly cannot decide, both these two titles are possibly the best FPS games I've played and I've played a lot of FPS...

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#27  Edited By ConanTheStoner
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My most memorable moment in TNO was realizing I could disable the shitty film grain.

Yeah, team Doom here.

Though admittedly I haven't finished TNO.

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#28 Mr_Huggles_dog
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Doom.

Never understood the hype for New Order.

Doom was fun on PS4, but I bought a new PC and knew Doom would be 10x better on it.

It is. What a fun fucking game.

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#29 Ghosts4ever
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@uninspiredcup said:
@ghosts4ever said:
@uninspiredcup said:
@ghosts4ever said:
@uninspiredcup said:

The New Order has every contemptible piece of modern FPS design attached to it.

Poopy game.

the starting of new order is COD united offensive rip off.

The irony being United Offensive was developed by Grey Matter, who prior developed RTCW.

An incomparably superior game - for men.

RTCW was incredible, incredible game. outside of stealth parts.

however i believe Doom 2016 surpass it.

Eh. Not been too impressed with Doom. By virtue of "you can play it", beats New Order.

Very unbalanced weapons and the glory kills get boring.

RTCW stellar AI weapons, level design, pacing, secrets, atmosphere, sexy Nazi's and and Heinrich Himmler cameo.

Poo stealth which is barely in it, bit bullet spongy enemies and poor bosses (all 2 of them) are really the only blemish in one of the last true old school games designed for proper pc gamers.

New Order big shitty poo. Highly embarrassing.

I beat Doom 3 times in row. I couldnot even bother to beat new order once. its really abysmal game.

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Both are good games but I thought Doom 2016 was overall better in all categories. Wolfenstein got a little uninteresting for me towards the end.

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#31 ReadingRainbow4
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@jg4xchamp said:
@Blabadon said:

Doom 4 is an excellent game, New Order is a good one.

and Shadow Warrior is fucking rubbish.

True dat.

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#32 VFighter
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TNO was really good, much better than I then I thought it was going to be.

I have Doom but haven't had a chance to play it yet.

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#33  Edited By uninspiredcup
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@ghosts4ever said:
@uninspiredcup said:
@ghosts4ever said:
@uninspiredcup said:

The irony being United Offensive was developed by Grey Matter, who prior developed RTCW.

An incomparably superior game - for men.

RTCW was incredible, incredible game. outside of stealth parts.

however i believe Doom 2016 surpass it.

Eh. Not been too impressed with Doom. By virtue of "you can play it", beats New Order.

Very unbalanced weapons and the glory kills get boring.

RTCW stellar AI weapons, level design, pacing, secrets, atmosphere, sexy Nazi's and and Heinrich Himmler cameo.

Poo stealth which is barely in it, bit bullet spongy enemies and poor bosses (all 2 of them) are really the only blemish in one of the last true old school games designed for proper pc gamers.

New Order big shitty poo. Highly embarrassing.

I beat Doom 3 times in row. I couldnot even bother to beat new order once. its really abysmal game.

Same boat, when the depressing man and his girl friend who he had puppet sex with open the under water bit and meet man with mashed head, too much. Too much.

Uninstall.

Very odd seeing the younger users attempt to bash Shadow Warrior, far superior game.

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#34 thereal25
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Haven't played Doom, but I found wolf tno + the old blood to be just average.

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#35 Ghosts4ever
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@uninspiredcup said:
@ghosts4ever said:
@uninspiredcup said:
@ghosts4ever said:
@uninspiredcup said:

The irony being United Offensive was developed by Grey Matter, who prior developed RTCW.

An incomparably superior game - for men.

RTCW was incredible, incredible game. outside of stealth parts.

however i believe Doom 2016 surpass it.

Eh. Not been too impressed with Doom. By virtue of "you can play it", beats New Order.

Very unbalanced weapons and the glory kills get boring.

RTCW stellar AI weapons, level design, pacing, secrets, atmosphere, sexy Nazi's and and Heinrich Himmler cameo.

Poo stealth which is barely in it, bit bullet spongy enemies and poor bosses (all 2 of them) are really the only blemish in one of the last true old school games designed for proper pc gamers.

New Order big shitty poo. Highly embarrassing.

I beat Doom 3 times in row. I couldnot even bother to beat new order once. its really abysmal game.

Same boat, when the depressing man and his girl friend who he had puppet sex with open the under water bit and meet man with mashed head, too much. Too much.

Uninstall.

Very odd seeing the younger users attempt to bash Shadow Warrior, far superior game.

sex scene in TNO is just disgusting. Why turn old School FPS into bioware/witcher games? thats disgusting.

Shadow warrior is better game. well apart from shitty shadow realm parts.

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#36 jg4xchamp
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@ReadingRainbow4 said:
@jg4xchamp said:

and Shadow Warrior is fucking rubbish.

True dat.

Game is like some try hard attempt at "hur durr hardcore shooter" and then proceeds to play like monkey shit. It's like the concept of game feel means nothing to people.

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#37 R4gn4r0k
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Wolfenstein's shooting mechanics were fun as hell, DOOM had that and had a great melee system to boot.

But overall I like Wolfenstein's setting way more, I really looked forward to seeing a 1960 where the Nazis had won the war, and the game did not disappoint.

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#38 Ghosts4ever
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@jg4xchamp said:
@ReadingRainbow4 said:
@jg4xchamp said:

and Shadow Warrior is fucking rubbish.

True dat.

Game is like some try hard attempt at "hur durr hardcore shooter" and then proceeds to play like monkey shit. It's like the concept of game feel means nothing to people.

you have fast paced non stop action fun

you have amazing character lo wang

you have best meele in any FPS ever

none of which new order has. shadow warrior is really good. if its not Doom or FEAR or RTCW.

oh you also hate RTCW. are not you? when its one of the best FPS ever and new order is not even 1/4th as good as RTCW...

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#39  Edited By uninspiredcup
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@ghosts4ever said:
@uninspiredcup said:
@ghosts4ever said:
@uninspiredcup said:

Eh. Not been too impressed with Doom. By virtue of "you can play it", beats New Order.

Very unbalanced weapons and the glory kills get boring.

RTCW stellar AI weapons, level design, pacing, secrets, atmosphere, sexy Nazi's and and Heinrich Himmler cameo.

Poo stealth which is barely in it, bit bullet spongy enemies and poor bosses (all 2 of them) are really the only blemish in one of the last true old school games designed for proper pc gamers.

New Order big shitty poo. Highly embarrassing.

I beat Doom 3 times in row. I couldnot even bother to beat new order once. its really abysmal game.

Same boat, when the depressing man and his girl friend who he had puppet sex with open the under water bit and meet man with mashed head, too much. Too much.

Uninstall.

Very odd seeing the younger users attempt to bash Shadow Warrior, far superior game.

sex scene in TNO is just disgusting. Why turn old School FPS into bioware/witcher games? thats disgusting.

Shadow warrior is better game. well apart from shitty shadow realm parts.

Very cliche to the point that, if a woman exists, she must be love interest.

Cool things about Wesely Snipes evocative masterpiece Blade (best vampire movie ever) female with breasts just useful friend and Wesley Snipes doesn't attempt sex nor show any sign of love, useful ally, nothing more.

Unfortunately this movie too mature for video game that think it's Schindler's List.

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#40 indzman
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DOOM is bland game with repititive enemies. No story. Just fast paced and mindless fun like old school shooter . Only replaybility about the game is tons of upgrades ( Stats to Weapon ). WTNO had a solid WW II alternate story, character (B.J) and had replaybility.

DOOM 2016 is overrated , hyped much by SNIPER4321.

I'd take DOOM 3, WTNO, RTCW anyday over DOOM 2016.

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#41 Ghosts4ever
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@indzman said:

WTNO had a solid WW II alternate story, character (B.J) and had replaybility.

BJ character suck in new order compare to earlier games.

and that sex scene really ruined his character. he try to be soo serious and heroic.

compare to Doom slayer who is so badass and even demons fear him.

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@uninspiredcup said:
@ghosts4ever said:
@uninspiredcup said:
@ghosts4ever said:
@uninspiredcup said:

Eh. Not been too impressed with Doom. By virtue of "you can play it", beats New Order.

Very unbalanced weapons and the glory kills get boring.

RTCW stellar AI weapons, level design, pacing, secrets, atmosphere, sexy Nazi's and and Heinrich Himmler cameo.

Poo stealth which is barely in it, bit bullet spongy enemies and poor bosses (all 2 of them) are really the only blemish in one of the last true old school games designed for proper pc gamers.

New Order big shitty poo. Highly embarrassing.

I beat Doom 3 times in row. I couldnot even bother to beat new order once. its really abysmal game.

Same boat, when the depressing man and his girl friend who he had puppet sex with open the under water bit and meet man with mashed head, too much. Too much.

Uninstall.

Very odd seeing the younger users attempt to bash Shadow Warrior, far superior game.

sex scene in TNO is just disgusting. Why turn old School FPS into bioware/witcher games? thats disgusting.

Shadow warrior is better game. well apart from shitty shadow realm parts.

Very cliche to the point that, if a woman exists, she must be love interest.

Cool things about Wesely Snipes evocative masterpiece Blade (best vampire movie ever) female with breasts just useful friend and Wesley Snipes doesn't attempt sex nor show any sign of love, useful ally, nothing more.

Unfortunately this movie too mature for video game that think it's Schindler's List.

so true.

Witcher 3 is incredibly immature game as gerret of rividia attemp to have sex with every female character in game (triss, yen, that witch i forgot the name). thats stupid imo.

bioware do same thing. I was readin bioware forums and some one asking if Deus Ex include romance option and i facepalm so hard. come on.

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Both of them are awesome games and very good reboots...................i like them both.

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#44 Basinboy
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I prefer DOOM. But it's hard to go wrong with either.

As for the future of each franchise, I think Wolfenstein has much more to work with.

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#45 jg4xchamp
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@ghosts4ever said:

you have best meele in any FPS ever

That's like being the most likable member of Al Qaeda sunshine, not exactly a highlight.

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#46  Edited By Doozie78
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To me Doom takes the win here, it's a damn good game in almost every single respect.

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Doom but I enjoyed new order

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DOOOOMMMMMM!!!!!

Played both and DOOM is definitely the closest to form, and the better game.