Windows Update Could Unify Xbox One and PC

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#1 Posted by jhonMalcovich (4414 posts) -

I haven´t figure out yet what to make out of this piece of news.

Is it something positive ? On one hand MS promise to bring back the start menu

Said version will allow users to run floating Metro apps on the desktop, and also bring back the Start menu, although the latter addition will likely be consigned to Windows on desktops.

On the other hand, unifying Windows OS with X1 and Windows Phones ? What the fuck that means ? Will Windows OS be even more dumbed down ? Is it time to pack up and move to Linux ? I mean this quote makes me cringe.

According to Microsoft, all three will bring Xbox One and Windows interfaces closer together.

Who the fuck wants that ? No PC Gamer want this.

SOURCE IGN

The next Windows update could allow Microsoft to consolidate Windows, Windows phones and Xbox Ones into a universal operating system.

The update, which is thought to be the "Threshold" wave announced last week, will unite all three platforms from a user perspective, complete with a common app store across the trio. The update is thought to be a response to complaints aimed at WIndows 8.1.

"Threshold" will ship in three different versions, according to Windows Supersite: a consumer-focused Windows much like Windows RT, a release based on the x86 codebase, and a traditional Enterprise version. According to Microsoft, all three will bring Xbox One and Windows interfaces closer together.

Although it didn't use the word "Threshold," Microsoft did release more information on the "next version of Windows," which is likely the aforementioned update. Said version will allow users to run floating Metro apps on the desktop, and also bring back the Start menu, although the latter addition will likely be consigned to Windows on desktops.

#2 Posted by Sweenix (5396 posts) -

#Xaero4king

#3 Posted by uninspiredcup (7557 posts) -

Great, now they can make an even worse user interface.

#4 Edited by edidili (3446 posts) -

No idea what that means. It may mean the development for both platforms may come closer, as in make an app for metro and it will run on xbox or vice versa, an xbox game may run on metro. Maybe cross-play between W8 and xbox. It may mean a shitload of things.

#5 Posted by zeeshanhaider (2351 posts) -

I'm still cursing my self for upgrading to Windows 8 and after that damn 8.1 update many of my apps stopped working. No way in hell I will be upgrading again unless ever single review site on the planet says that it removes all the $hit from Windows8/8.1.

#6 Posted by MBirdy88 (7367 posts) -

Ummm, nothing wrong with this.

If this means you can buy an app on X1 or PC or WP and it works on all... I see no reason not to..

other than that... nothing to do with PC gaming or desktop. just metro.

#8 Posted by WG_McFartypants (218 posts) -

Means nothing in regards to Xbox One games. They're on their own OS. Means everything for the apps side of Xbox One. Getting the development tools aligned so that you can design a metro style app that will run on Windows desktops, tablets, phones, or xbox one means a larger user base, which means more developer interest and more apps. It means users would only have to buy an app once (for paid apps) and would get to use it on any device they own. It means support is easier because they're only supporting one app instead of three different versions (XB1, Windows, & Phone)...

It basically means more options and better choice for users.

So of course, as we all know. That's terrible. Damn you Microsoft.

#9 Edited by adamosmaki (9432 posts) -

God i hope steamOS takes off so more games will start coming out on Linux. Been hostage to only one OS and MS not exactly great

#10 Posted by Heil68 (43186 posts) -

Unless it involves gaming, I dont care.

#11 Posted by magicalclick (22364 posts) -

It already happened. WP8 runs on Win8. A lot of games and apps are available on both OS. They still need few code changes, and this time, they want to make it even less code changes to port the app and have one app store for all. And Xbox One already runs Win8, if not the game OS, at least the App OS is already Win8.

#12 Edited by SEANMCAD (5464 posts) -

There is no way I would let Xbox One touch my PC.

After doing that the next thing that would happen is that I would have to have a friend on Xbox Live for 30 days before I could send him an email.

no sir, I want to be as far away from Xbox Live engaged devices as possible

#13 Edited by MK-Professor (3669 posts) -

I hope XboxOne related crap stay as far away as possible from my glorious gaming pc.

#14 Posted by WG_McFartypants (218 posts) -

It already happened. WP8 runs on Win8. A lot of games and apps are available on both OS. They still need few code changes, and this time, they want to make it even less code changes to port the app and have one app store for all. And Xbox One already runs Win8, if not the game OS, at least the App OS is already Win8.

Unfortunately that's not true as of yet, unless you come from the future (in which case I apologize), but it's where they're headed. They're running on the same kernel. Some of the apps exist on multiple platforms and SOME of the APIs overlap, but they haven't made it to compile once run everywhere, yet.

As for the other posters... Uh.. I've got nothing that's going to make it through your tinfoil helmets...

We now return you to your regularly scheduled paranoia and trolling.

#15 Posted by ronvalencia (15109 posts) -

I'm still cursing my self for upgrading to Windows 8 and after that damn 8.1 update many of my apps stopped working. No way in hell I will be upgrading again unless ever single review site on the planet says that it removes all the $hit from Windows8/8.1.

My Windows 8.1 update works fine and it's a Samsung ATIV Book 8 laptop with AMD Enduro (Intel HD 4000 + Radeon HD 8870M hybrid)**.

**Full OEM support from Samsung.

#16 Edited by hoosier7 (3773 posts) -

God i hate 8.1 and you can't reverse it either unless you've got the disc for a new install. I don't know what MS are doing at the moment, i mean why remove system restore? Really hope i don't get any problems else i'm pretty much fucked as system restore was usually my go to fix.

#17 Posted by zeeshanhaider (2351 posts) -

@zeeshanhaider said:

I'm still cursing my self for upgrading to Windows 8 and after that damn 8.1 update many of my apps stopped working. No way in hell I will be upgrading again unless ever single review site on the planet says that it removes all the $hit from Windows8/8.1.

My Windows 8.1 update works fine and it's a Samsung ATIV Book 8 laptop with AMD Enduro (Intel HD 4000 + Radeon HD 8870M hybrid)**.

**Full OEM support from Samsung.

Then you're very few of the lucky ones. Hell even Skype stopped working after upgrading to 8.1. Seriously a mere update caused compatibility problems for many of the apps I use and so far I'm still trying to get it to work, since the original vendors don't support 8.1 yet.

By the way, I have Windows 8 Pro.

#18 Posted by edidili (3446 posts) -

Then you're very few of the lucky ones. Hell even Skype stopped working after upgrading to 8.1. Seriously a mere update caused compatibility problems for many of the apps I use and so far I'm still trying to get it to work, since the original vendors don't support 8.1 yet.

By the way, I have Windows 8 Pro.

Skype works fine for me.

#19 Edited by ronvalencia (15109 posts) -
@zeeshanhaider said:

@ronvalencia said:

@zeeshanhaider said:

I'm still cursing my self for upgrading to Windows 8 and after that damn 8.1 update many of my apps stopped working. No way in hell I will be upgrading again unless ever single review site on the planet says that it removes all the $hit from Windows8/8.1.

My Windows 8.1 update works fine and it's a Samsung ATIV Book 8 laptop with AMD Enduro (Intel HD 4000 + Radeon HD 8870M hybrid)**.

**Full OEM support from Samsung.

Then you're very few of the lucky ones. Hell even Skype stopped working after upgrading to 8.1. Seriously a mere update caused compatibility problems for many of the apps I use and so far I'm still trying to get it to work, since the original vendors don't support 8.1 yet.

By the way, I have Windows 8 Pro.

I updated from Windows 8.0 Pro MCE to Windows 8.1 Pro MCE. Samsung's OEM support for Windows 8.1 upgrade for my laptop was good.

My old DELL Studio XPS 1645 (Intel Core i7-740 QM + 8 GB + Radeon HD 5730M + OCZ SDD 512 GB) laptop's update from Windows 7 to Windows 8.0 failed i.e. it has issues with it's DELL supplied bloat-ware. I was force to do a clean install on this laptop, but all my work apps and files are on the VMware Workstation's virtual machine, hence it's easy get back to work ready state. The Windows 8.0 Pro MCE to Windows 8.1. Pro MCE update for my old DELL laptop was successful. I have decommissioned this laptop and moved to my Sammy laptop.

My LAN party mini-ITX PC (Intel Core i5-2500K + Radeon HD R9-290) still runs on Windows 7 Pro and I plan to do a clean Windows 8.1 Pro install over the XMAS week. I have ISO image for Windows 8.1 from MSDN subs.

#20 Posted by jun_aka_pekto (15887 posts) -

@hoosier7 said:

God i hate 8.1 and you can't reverse it either unless you've got the disc for a new install. I don't know what MS are doing at the moment, i mean why remove system restore? Really hope i don't get any problems else i'm pretty much fucked as system restore was usually my go to fix.

I thought it was under System Protection:

#21 Posted by jun_aka_pekto (15887 posts) -

@hoosier7 said:

God i hate 8.1 and you can't reverse it either unless you've got the disc for a new install. I don't know what MS are doing at the moment, i mean why remove system restore? Really hope i don't get any problems else i'm pretty much fucked as system restore was usually my go to fix.

I thought it was under System Protection:

#22 Posted by juarbles (801 posts) -

I'm going to puke. Steam OS all the way. Microsoft is destroying gaming in all fronts.

#23 Posted by AdrianWerner (27957 posts) -

Good. The next update seems like pretty much perfect OS.

Lol at people who will try SteamOS

#24 Posted by hoosier7 (3773 posts) -

@jun_aka_pekto: Oh thanks! I looked for it a few weeks back, couldn't find it and after googling somewhere said it had been removed. Apparently not however.

#25 Posted by zeeshanhaider (2351 posts) -

@zeeshanhaider said:

@ronvalencia said:

@zeeshanhaider said:

I'm still cursing my self for upgrading to Windows 8 and after that damn 8.1 update many of my apps stopped working. No way in hell I will be upgrading again unless ever single review site on the planet says that it removes all the $hit from Windows8/8.1.

My Windows 8.1 update works fine and it's a Samsung ATIV Book 8 laptop with AMD Enduro (Intel HD 4000 + Radeon HD 8870M hybrid)**.

**Full OEM support from Samsung.

Then you're very few of the lucky ones. Hell even Skype stopped working after upgrading to 8.1. Seriously a mere update caused compatibility problems for many of the apps I use and so far I'm still trying to get it to work, since the original vendors don't support 8.1 yet.

By the way, I have Windows 8 Pro.

I updated from Windows 8.0 Pro MCE to Windows 8.1 Pro MCE. Samsung's OEM support for Windows 8.1 upgrade for my laptop was good.

My old DELL Studio XPS 1645 (Intel Core i7-740 QM + 8 GB + Radeon HD 5730M + OCZ SDD 512 GB) laptop's update from Windows 7 to Windows 8.0 failed i.e. it has issues with it's DELL supplied bloat-ware. I was force to do a clean install on this laptop, but all my work apps and files are on the VMware Workstation's virtual machine, hence it's easy get back to work ready state. The Windows 8.0 Pro MCE to Windows 8.1. Pro MCE update for my old DELL laptop was successful. I have decommissioned this laptop and moved to my Sammy laptop.

My LAN party mini-ITX PC (Intel Core i5-2500K + Radeon HD R9-290) still runs on Windows 7 Pro and I plan to do a clean Windows 8.1 Pro install over the XMAS week. I have ISO image for Windows 8.1 from MSDN subs.

Well, I don't really like working on VMs. I mean when you could run it on PC directly why have another layer and besides I never had this sort of problem before not even when I upgraded from XP to Vista. Didn't have any reason to worry about it since it was just suppose to be a simple update.

#26 Posted by zeeshanhaider (2351 posts) -

@edidili said:

@zeeshanhaider said:

Then you're very few of the lucky ones. Hell even Skype stopped working after upgrading to 8.1. Seriously a mere update caused compatibility problems for many of the apps I use and so far I'm still trying to get it to work, since the original vendors don't support 8.1 yet.

By the way, I have Windows 8 Pro.

Skype works fine for me.

I'm talking about Skype for Desktop, not the Skype App that comes with Windows 8.

#27 Edited by ronvalencia (15109 posts) -

@zeeshanhaider said:

@ronvalencia said:
@zeeshanhaider said:

@ronvalencia said:

@zeeshanhaider said:

I'm still cursing my self for upgrading to Windows 8 and after that damn 8.1 update many of my apps stopped working. No way in hell I will be upgrading again unless ever single review site on the planet says that it removes all the $hit from Windows8/8.1.

My Windows 8.1 update works fine and it's a Samsung ATIV Book 8 laptop with AMD Enduro (Intel HD 4000 + Radeon HD 8870M hybrid)**.

**Full OEM support from Samsung.

Then you're very few of the lucky ones. Hell even Skype stopped working after upgrading to 8.1. Seriously a mere update caused compatibility problems for many of the apps I use and so far I'm still trying to get it to work, since the original vendors don't support 8.1 yet.

By the way, I have Windows 8 Pro.

I updated from Windows 8.0 Pro MCE to Windows 8.1 Pro MCE. Samsung's OEM support for Windows 8.1 upgrade for my laptop was good.

My old DELL Studio XPS 1645 (Intel Core i7-740 QM + 8 GB + Radeon HD 5730M + OCZ SDD 512 GB) laptop's update from Windows 7 to Windows 8.0 failed i.e. it has issues with it's DELL supplied bloat-ware. I was force to do a clean install on this laptop, but all my work apps and files are on the VMware Workstation's virtual machine, hence it's easy get back to work ready state. The Windows 8.0 Pro MCE to Windows 8.1. Pro MCE update for my old DELL laptop was successful. I have decommissioned this laptop and moved to my Sammy laptop.

My LAN party mini-ITX PC (Intel Core i5-2500K + Radeon HD R9-290) still runs on Windows 7 Pro and I plan to do a clean Windows 8.1 Pro install over the XMAS week. I have ISO image for Windows 8.1 from MSDN subs.

Well, I don't really like working on VMs. I mean when you could run it on PC directly why have another layer and besides I never had this sort of problem before not even when I upgraded from XP to Vista. Didn't have any reason to worry about it since it was just suppose to be a simple update.

The reason I use VM is mostly due to my corporate domain/Active directory login requirements and I don't want to bloat my main Windows installation with Windows development/SDKs/debuggers tools.

With 500 GB Samsung 840 SSD + Intel VM extensions, my VMs (VMware Workstation 9 with Direct3D support) runs like native Windows box. I have multiple VMs sitting on USB 3.0 SSDs.

With VM+USB removable SSD drive, I could plug it to my Dell Venue Pro 8 inch tablet or my Samsung laptop and continue on working. I like my VMware Workstation app.

#28 Posted by edidili (3446 posts) -

I'm talking about Skype for Desktop, not the Skype App that comes with Windows 8.

Yeah, tested both, they both work fine.

#29 Posted by kuu2 (6878 posts) -

Means nothing in regards to Xbox One games. They're on their own OS. Means everything for the apps side of Xbox One. Getting the development tools aligned so that you can design a metro style app that will run on Windows desktops, tablets, phones, or xbox one means a larger user base, which means more developer interest and more apps. It means users would only have to buy an app once (for paid apps) and would get to use it on any device they own. It means support is easier because they're only supporting one app instead of three different versions (XB1, Windows, & Phone)...

It basically means more options and better choice for users.

So of course, as we all know. That's terrible. Damn you Microsoft.

Exactly........

This would be great!

#30 Posted by farrell2k (5620 posts) -

I don't want my PC "unified", whatever that means, with that money pit abomination known as the Xbox. By the way, you mean Windows, not PC.

#31 Posted by IgGy621985 (4599 posts) -

I don't care about interface. I care about games. Microsoft didn't bring any worthwhile PC game in the past, what 10 years.

#32 Posted by AdrianWerner (27957 posts) -

I don't care about interface. I care about games. Microsoft didn't bring any worthwhile PC game in the past, what 10 years.

10 years is way to long. They did have some nice pc titles in this period. So it's more like 5 years.

#33 Posted by jun_aka_pekto (15887 posts) -

@zeeshanhaider:

It's a good idea to list your apps that doesn't work in Win 8/8.1 in case any of us here might have the same apps later.