Windows 8 vs Windows 7: Dispelling myths.

Linux is the future I think.

Chozofication

I see that MS has windows 8 pro upgrade for sale for $40 until january 30th. Should I upgrade from 7? Honestly

guard12

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="XaosII"] 60 Million isn't selling well, HOKAY, business taking to it surprisingly well isn't selling? HOKAY. Your hate is empty nothingness, Windows 8 will only get better and better.hexashadow13

please as long as keyboard and mouse are the primary interfaces and there is a need for editing and creating the metro UI is pointless and is not the future, touch screen UI does not belong on desktops period. And win8 is failing but At some point, the cheerleaders like you and yes, amazingly, theyre out thereare going to have to face reality Win 8 isnt catching on.and is not selling well.

Linux is the future I think.

Chozofication

[QUOTE="Chozofication"]

Linux is the future I think.

hexashadow13

Linux is always improving, but yeah it'll be a while.

I'm using windows 7 right now but my next PC will run Linux.

[QUOTE="Chozofication"]

Linux is the future I think.

MBirdy88

[QUOTE="hexashadow13"][QUOTE="04dcarraher"] 60 million are bought licenses are from mostly oem makers is mostly all prebuilts,laptops, tablets and phones using 8 :lol: "At some point, are going to have to face reality: Windows 8 is selling slowly. More slowly than Windows 7 at launch, and more slowly than Windows 7 a year ago.Despite the hype, and hope, around the launch of Windows 8, the new operating system did little to boost holiday sales or improve the year-long Windows notebook sales decline, NPD noted. Windows notebook holiday unit sales dropped 11 percent, on par with Black Friday, and similar to the yearly trend, but revenue trends weakened since Black Friday to end the holiday period down 10.5 percent . [Average Selling Prices, or ASPs] rose only $2 to $420. Touchscreen notebooks were 4.5 percent of Windows 8 sales with ASPs around $700. Sales of Windows notebooks under $500 fell by 16 percent while notebooks priced above $500 increased 4 percent.04dcarraher

please as long as keyboard and mouse are the primary interfaces and there is a need for editing and creating the metro UI is pointless and is not the future, touch screen UI does not belong on desktops period. And win8 is failing but At some point, the cheerleaders like you and yes, amazingly, theyre out thereare going to have to face reality Win 8 isnt catching on.and is not selling well.

But keep preetending the stationary brick will remain the way it is.

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"]

[QUOTE="Chozofication"]

Linux is the future I think.

04dcarraher

Windows 7 desktop using Rainmeter. For the metro tablet lovers.

Windows 7 desktop using Rainmeter. For the metro tablet lovers.

wis3boi

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

Windows 7 desktop using Rainmeter. For the metro tablet lovers.

MBirdy88

My desktop. Rainmeter is using 8mb of RAM. Oh the horror!

Then it has improved, still wouldn't use it, very overated.MBirdy88

yeah, making my own icons and widgets si so overrated

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"]Then it has improved, still wouldn't use it, very overated.wis3boi

yeah, making my own icons and widgets si so overrated

before i could hit the window key and start typing and find almost anything on my PC immediately, this no longer works, Also I tried to use the tiles as a start menu replacement but I have yet to find out how to start internet explorer for the desktop via the start menu. Some of my games don't work! Also there being no button for start its easy to accidently click on the new start menu when going for your left most docked item.

Windoze 8 didn't do anything useful, all it did was force us to use a UI that was meant for tablets, and funnel us into using the store to get apps that were bundled with the OS previously. Oh they also start the desktop before anything else to give that illusion of boot speed.

Oh wait... Task manager is nice though

[QUOTE="Chozofication"]

Linux is the future I think.

MBirdy88

I don't know much about hipsters but I imagine they wouldn't want to use Linux.

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"]

[QUOTE="Chozofication"]

Linux is the future I think.

04dcarraher

Except no.

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"]Then it has improved, still wouldn't use it, very overated.wis3boi

yeah, making my own icons and widgets si so overrated

That's kinda cool actually.

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="MBirdy88"] If you want endless dependencies, a million more steps to perform tasks. I.

Zophar87

Except no.

[QUOTE="Zophar87"]

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"] :lol: you explained right there windows 8 compared to 7 04dcarraher

Except no.

You can't even back up any of your ridiculous claims anymore and yet you persist like you have something to prove.

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"]

[QUOTE="Chozofication"]

Linux is the future I think.

Chozofication

I don't know much about hipsters but I imagine they wouldn't want to use Linux.

It does absolutely nothing for me to need the upgrade. tagyhag

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="Zophar87"]

Except no.

Zophar87

You can't even back up any of your ridiculous claims anymore and yet you persist like you have something to prove.

[QUOTE="Chozofication"]

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"] If you want endless dependencies, a million more steps to perform tasks. I don't understand this **** Microsoft make an OS that is practically windows 7 but catering to future computer models, and suddenly a niche industry/enthusiast (and by enthusiast I mean far beyond most gamespotters here) Honestly, this hipster linux talk is all crap. none of you will switch because even with Windows 8, Windows is by far the best overall computer OS for 99% of things, THAT is the reality.

savagetwinkie

I don't know much about hipsters but I imagine they wouldn't want to use Linux.

I'm sure Linux has a long way to go.

before i could hit the window key and start typing and find almost anything on my PC immediately, this no longer works, Also I tried to use the tiles as a start menu replacement but I have yet to find out how to start internet explorer for the desktop via the start menu. Some of my games don't work! Also there being no button for start its easy to accidently click on the new start menu when going for your left most docked item.

Windoze 8 didn't do anything useful, all it did was force us to use a UI that was meant for tablets, and funnel us into using the store to get apps that were bundled with the OS previously. Oh they also start the desktop before anything else to give that illusion of boot speed.

Oh wait... Task manager is nice though

savagetwinkie

1. Yes you can. Press start menu and start typing. Press up or down on arrow keys to specify apps/settings/files.

2. Internet Explorer? Seriously? Seriously seriously? Anyway, open internet explorer, click the gear at the top right->internet options->programs and change the drop down box at the top to always in internet explorer on desktop.

Sticking to Win7 i always skip a microsoft os (Vista) so i'll be skipping Win8

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

From my personal experience, Windows 8 as a desktop OS is junk compared to 7. Having to shuffle your way through metro to get to certain places and features, Major lack of backwards compatibility for older games compared to 7. Every XP era game I tried had graphical glitches or wouldn't run at all while using latest drivers. Once back to 7 all issues were gone. With Win 8 they removed alot of the legacy coding that makes older programs and games work.

Zophar87

You haven't ever used Windows 8 for any extensive period of personal use. Have you?

TL;DR: Haters gonna hate.

Thats cool, if you like to see encoding errors all over the place. Use MPC which is far better than VLC.clyde46

VLC works.

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"]

before i could hit the window key and start typing and find almost anything on my PC immediately, this no longer works, Also I tried to use the tiles as a start menu replacement but I have yet to find out how to start internet explorer for the desktop via the start menu. Some of my games don't work! Also there being no button for start its easy to accidently click on the new start menu when going for your left most docked item.

Windoze 8 didn't do anything useful, all it did was force us to use a UI that was meant for tablets, and funnel us into using the store to get apps that were bundled with the OS previously. Oh they also start the desktop before anything else to give that illusion of boot speed.

Oh wait... Task manager is nice though

hexashadow13

1. Yes you can. Press start menu and start typing. Press up or down on arrow keys to specify apps/settings/files.

2. Internet Explorer? Seriously? Seriously seriously? Anyway, open internet explorer, click the gear at the top right->internet options->programs and change the drop down box at the top to always in internet explorer on desktop.

2. Its IE, and i didn't put much effort into it...

edit: actually i did find a way and didn't even know it, I "uninstalled" the ie "app" and now i can select the .exe file in the start menu

Support for 7 isn't going bye bye anytime soon. AmazonTreeBoa

I remember reading somewhere in Microsoft's FAQ that Vista is going to be supported until 2017 and Windows 7 until 2020.

I'm pretty fond of Win7. Games run great on it and I quite enjoy my desktop feeling like a desktop, not a touch screen.

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[QUOTE="MBirdy88"]Then it has improved, still wouldn't use it, very overated.Zophar87

yeah, making my own icons and widgets si so overrated

That's kinda cool actually.

Just redid mine again to clean it up :P

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="XaosII"]

I have a desktop with Windows 8 and its not. Very convincing evidence.

MBirdy88

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/windows_8_worse_start_vista2012

"Despite the hype, Windows 8's adoption rate is slower than of Vista's when it debuted five years ago.

If you listen to Microsoft, Windows 8 is not only the greatest operating system ever designed, it's also selling really well. Microsoft in November claimed it sold 40 million Windows 8 licenses in the first month, an impressive figure, even after you factor in all the OEM systems that come pre-loaded with Windows. But is Windows 8 truly off to a fast start? There's evidence to suggest that might not be the case.

According to data compiled by web analytics firm Net Applications, Windows 8's online usage share is a hair under 1.6 percent of all Windows PCs through December 22. When Windows Vista launched in 2007, its online usage share of all Windows PCs was 2.2 percent through the same time period.

In other words, Windows 8 is seeing a slower adoption than Vista, the latter of which stumbled out of the gates to complaints of slow performance and file transfer issues. Looking closer at the data, Windows 8 adoption grew by just 0.4 percentage points from November 22 to December 22, whereas Vista's adoption more than doubled during its second month on the market.

It should be noted that these are just raw numbers; they don't account for the decline in PC sales or any other factors that might skew the results. Still, with so much riding on Windows 8, it's a bad sign that Vista got off to a quicker start."

You guys need to get your heads out of the sand.

Along with the fact that Windows 8 is less resource hungry, faster, smoother, and just plain fun to use, why is there such negative stigma around this new OS? Everything you know and love about Windows 7 is there, right down to that good old Start Menu should you wish to add it (I doubt you will) and it's new features far outstrip any small loss.

Plagueless

This is the reason I gave it a shot, an it really does those things. I do not find it fun to use, I do not ever use anything aside fromt he desktop an Windows key + R does everythign the start menu ever did for me.

Meh for 80$ it was a solid improovement on the games I play.

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="04dcarraher"] aw there's a reason why Windows 8 isnt selling too well, because its pointless change for desktops and laptops meant for mouse and keyboards This metro tile interface is forced on you. And it's not designed efficiently for desktops. Period. Full stop. End of story. And this BS about "hey haters, just switch to Desktop mode" ... well, yes, you can do that, but guess what, you're constantly having to flop between 2 completely different user experiences (tiles and desktop icons) on a regular basis to do it. And the experience is nothing short of a hassle Oh wait, please tell me "get with times, leave the past behind". Ok, i'd love to ... i'll try running a new RT tile app. Let's see here.... now i have a SINGLE FULL SCREEN APP on my 17" screen. 90% of my screen is wasted on showing nothingness. topgunmv

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/windows_8_worse_start_vista2012

"Despite the hype, Windows 8's adoption rate is slower than of Vista's when it debuted five years ago.

If you listen to Microsoft, Windows 8 is not only the greatest operating system ever designed, it's also selling really well. Microsoft in November claimed it sold 40 million Windows 8 licenses in the first month, an impressive figure, even after you factor in all the OEM systems that come pre-loaded with Windows. But is Windows 8 truly off to a fast start? There's evidence to suggest that might not be the case.

According to data compiled by web analytics firm Net Applications, Windows 8's online usage share is a hair under 1.6 percent of all Windows PCs through December 22. When Windows Vista launched in 2007, its online usage share of all Windows PCs was 2.2 percent through the same time period.

In other words, Windows 8 is seeing a slower adoption than Vista, the latter of which stumbled out of the gates to complaints of slow performance and file transfer issues. Looking closer at the data, Windows 8 adoption grew by just 0.4 percentage points from November 22 to December 22, whereas Vista's adoption more than doubled during its second month on the market.

It should be noted that these are just raw numbers; they don't account for the decline in PC sales or any other factors that might skew the results. Still, with so much riding on Windows 8, it's a bad sign that Vista got off to a quicker start."

You guys need to get your heads out of the sand.

I think that percent scale may be a little misleading, we'd need to know the total number if PC's being used as well. in 2007 I had 1 PC, now I have 4. In 2007 my parents had 1 dekstop, now they have a desktop but each own a laptop as well. What I'm saying is the PC market has been exploding the last few years and comparing just percents may be misleading.

If you have exact same adoption rate, windows 8 will appear to be slower when you look at the percents if the total number of PC's has grown since 2007

Because I don't see any rewards to upgrade to windows8 yet. Infact I don't think I got my money worth from window 7 ultimate.

Windows 8 > Windows 7. :)ShadowDeathX

FACT!

Like every iteration of Windows I've used, I'll wait till Windows 8's penetration into the market has stabilized, and preferably, has its first Service Pack released (I gave both XP and 7 the same treatment).

How long do you think till they introduce Kinect for PC to control Metro interface properly?
First make it an annoyance, then tell people they were doing it wrong cause they should use this cool new tech.

[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]Windows 8 > Windows 7. :)Rockman999

FACT!

[QUOTE="Rockman999"]

[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]Windows 8 > Windows 7. :)o0squishy0o

FACT!

I can do everything in Win 8 that I was able to do in Win 7 only much faster and better.

Microsoft profits either way.