Will the next round of Microsoft and Sony systems have......

A 1080p, 60 FPS standard? Thats all I ask for.

A 1080p, 60 FPS standard? Thats all I ask for.

XxHoosierdaddy

Ya c'mon. Even the Dreamcast did 60fps. That's why I snuggle with mine

1080p will be standard and it'll likely be a mix of 30 and 60fps games.

Ya c'mon. Even the Dreamcast did 60fps. That's why I snuggle with mine

Raymundo_Manuel

1080P? Hmm, it would be nice to have gone to higher resolutions by then.

1080P? Hmm, it would be nice to have gone to higher resolutions by then.

_Matt_

Agreed, but the difficulty of that is the amount of 1080p TV's on the market. 1080p will likely last a while.

1080p, 60 fps lock (meaning 60 fps in ideal conditions). Maybe we'll see lower resolutions and framerates when the time will pass and they will start squeezing that last drop of power out of them.

The framerate would depend more on the games than the system like games now (there are games that run 60fps constant but most don't). They are going to push the limit with what they have so there's no way they are going to pull off constant framerates unless the game's dumbed down for performance.

[QUOTE="_Matt_"]

1080P? Hmm, it would be nice to have gone to higher resolutions by then.

lundy86_4

Agreed, but the difficulty of that is the amount of 1080p TV's on the market. 1080p will likely last a while.

True, but pc monitors have gone higher resolutions for years, there is nothing stopping televisions increasing resolution apart from there is no current drive for a larger resolution. If a new generation of consoles all allowed higher resolutions, they would start to drive the development of higher resolution tellys. I don't know, Im no expert, just my thoughts on it! Haha.

when most cant even do 720p standard than i dont know? I would take pc hardware with all the great games that you find on consoles that you do not always see on pc and add in a controller. I know its do able for some games now but im not interested. xbox360isgr8t

This.

Most games these days dont even run in native 720p let alone 1080. But are wierd resolutions we've never heard of upscaled by the hardware.

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[QUOTE="_Matt_"]

1080P? Hmm, it would be nice to have gone to higher resolutions by then.

_Matt_

Agreed, but the difficulty of that is the amount of 1080p TV's on the market. 1080p will likely last a while.

True, but pc monitors have gone higher resolutions for years, there is nothing stopping televisions increasing resolution apart from there is no current drive for a larger resolution. If a new generation of consoles all allowed higher resolutions, they would start to drive the development of higher resolution tellys. I don't know, Im no expert, just my thoughts on it! Haha.

Both microsoft and Sony have stated that they have no plans to release another console for another 5 or so years.

I can only hope that Nintendo decides to come out with a Wii 2 in a year or 2, with modern hardware. Someone needs to get the next-generationconsole ball moving.

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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Agreed, but the difficulty of that is the amount of 1080p TV's on the market. 1080p will likely last a while.

Ilikemyname420

True, but pc monitors have gone higher resolutions for years, there is nothing stopping televisions increasing resolution apart from there is no current drive for a larger resolution. If a new generation of consoles all allowed higher resolutions, they would start to drive the development of higher resolution tellys. I don't know, Im no expert, just my thoughts on it! Haha.

Good point my friend, I hadn't thought of that.

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[QUOTE="_Matt_"]

1080P? Hmm, it would be nice to have gone to higher resolutions by then.

_Matt_

Agreed, but the difficulty of that is the amount of 1080p TV's on the market. 1080p will likely last a while.

True, but pc monitors have gone higher resolutions for years, there is nothing stopping televisions increasing resolution apart from there is no current drive for a larger resolution. If a new generation of consoles all allowed higher resolutions, they would start to drive the development of higher resolution tellys. I don't know, Im no expert, just my thoughts on it! Haha.

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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Agreed, but the difficulty of that is the amount of 1080p TV's on the market. 1080p will likely last a while.

2Chalupas

True, but pc monitors have gone higher resolutions for years, there is nothing stopping televisions increasing resolution apart from there is no current drive for a larger resolution. If a new generation of consoles all allowed higher resolutions, they would start to drive the development of higher resolution tellys. I don't know, Im no expert, just my thoughts on it! Haha.

hmm, makes sense. I recently bought a monitor for my new pc, and I was wanting a 1920 x 1200 resolution monitor, but they cost about £90 more than a 1080p monitor so i ended up just getting a 1080p monitor.

Microsofts will be some variation of Kinect, so I'll go with the Sony one--which again will produce console graphics king after console graphics king, confirmed.

Microsofts will be some variation of Kinect, so I'll go with the Sony one--which again will produce console graphics king after console graphics king, confirmed.

Heirren

hmm i disagree, I think M$ will learn that no buttons is a dumb idea. However, I also feel that the new Microsoft console will hit the market a good year or so before the next playstation, and thus the next playstation will have superior hardware, meaning thats where I am going to find my next console! ;)

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

Microsofts will be some variation of Kinect, so I'll go with the Sony one--which again will produce console graphics king after console graphics king, confirmed.

_Matt_

hmm i disagree, I think M$ will learn that no buttons is a dumb idea. However, I also feel that the new Microsoft console will hit the market a good year or so before the next playstation, and thus the next playstation will have superior hardware, meaning thats where I am going to find my next console! ;)

Consoles will not support anything more than 1080p as TV's dont support anything higher, at least not for the mass market although they will both implement 3D properly and have the power to run the games at 1080p without sacrificing graphics.

Microsoft, I personally think we will see a quad core cpu (quite possibly an amd ati CPu+GPU on a singlechip),1GB, possibly 2GB of systemram and a 1TB HD for digital downloads. Disc format is a trickier one as I dont think Microsoft will use a Blu Ray drive and the DVD disc capacitywill be to small by then unless they offer mutli disc install to HD ala PC but this defeats the purpose of a console. I think price will be £299 with £229 as a starter system.

Sony, who knows what hardware they will come up with this time! I think they will go for a similar approach to current PC Standards this time to make it easier to program for and get the system out the door cheaper. They would certainly keep the Blu Ray drive and I think they will move to a paid for revamped PSN for the new console. Sony system price will be around £299 this time, possibly £329 as they know the console wont sell in significant numbers with a high priceas the PS3 proved.

I honestly dont think the systems will have much to choose between them as we are now in the HD era and its gonna be more a refining of the technology used than pioneering something new. In this respect Nintendo will have to really get the console specs right as the casual gamer does not care about graphics.

Wrong post quoted!!

I think the idea of "standard" is not achievable, simply 'cause a lot of it comes down to the developer.

I'm sure 1080p at 60 fps steady fps can be done on a next-gen console. How much would it cost though and would it sell to the masses?

1080p will be standard and it'll likely be a mix of 30 and 60fps games.

lundy86_4

Agreed. Next gen will be about getting 1080p standard, and then more action on the screen at once.

No for the 60fpr standard. Hech 60fps is possible now however the devs always settle with 30 so they can improve graphics.

[QUOTE="_Matt_"]

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

Microsofts will be some variation of Kinect, so I'll go with the Sony one--which again will produce console graphics king after console graphics king, confirmed.

ccagracing

hmm i disagree, I think M$ will learn that no buttons is a dumb idea. However, I also feel that the new Microsoft console will hit the market a good year or so before the next playstation, and thus the next playstation will have superior hardware, meaning thats where I am going to find my next console! ;)

Consoles will not support anything more than 1080p as TV's dont support anything higher, at least not for the mass market although they will both implement 3D properly and have the power to run the games at 1080p without sacrificing graphics.

Microsoft, I personally think we will see a quad core cpu (quite possibly an amd ati CPu+GPU on a singlechip),1GB, possibly 2GB of systemram and a 1TB HD for digital downloads. Disc format is a trickier one as I dont think Microsoft will use a Blu Ray drive and the DVD disc capacitywill be to small by then unless they offer mutli disc install to HD ala PC but this defeats the purpose of a console. I think price will be £299 with £229 as a starter system.

Sony, who knows what hardware they will come up with this time! I think they will go for a similar approach to current PC Standards this time to make it easier to program for and get the system out the door cheaper. They would certainly keep the Blu Ray drive and I think they will move to a paid for revamped PSN for the new console. Sony system price will be around £299 this time, possibly £329 as they know the console wont sell in significant numbers with a high priceas the PS3 proved.

I honestly dont think the systems will have much to choose between them as we are now in the HD era and its gonna be more a refining of the technology used than pioneering something new. In this respect Nintendo will have to really get the console specs right as the casual gamer does not care about graphics.

Wrong post quoted!!

Those tech spec predictions seem quite reasonable.

It's quite possible that 1080 will be the standard next go around although I see devs dropping to 720 to get the maximum amount of visuals out of it or to appease more demanding games.

If I were a console gamer I'd be more concerned how much the platform is gonna cost, how much it'll cost to play online, and how much the games will cost. I have a gut feeling that Microsoft is gonna pull out something new for the next XBL to nickel and dime consumers even more. That's what I would be most worried about.

Many PC's have trouble with 60fps 1080p at the moment. 1080 will be a standard resolution by the time the next gen comes. But to acheive 60fps the resolution will need to be lower (Look at COD; low res, small FOV) or skimp on other features.

If I were a console gamer I'd be more concerned how much the platform is gonna cost, how much it'll cost to play online, and how much the games will cost. I have a gut feeling that Microsoft is gonna pull out something new for the next XBL to nickel and dime consumers even more. That's what I would be most worried about.

Mystic-G

I don't think Sony is gonna charge for online next gen. They have really no reason too, they have plenty of micro transactions in their business model to turn a profit on the psn without a subscription charge.