Will the next generation of consoles get their first ever racing sim?

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#51 I_can_haz
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I don't care if the racing games are sim or not. Just give me an awesome racing game, whether it be be Burnout or Forza.

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This although I prefer sims a bit more. The most important thing is that the game is fun to play.
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#52 percuvius2
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Baffles the mind how many people miss the point of the thread. It's not meant for arcade racers, it's asking if the consoles will ever get a REAL RACING SIM and nothing else. I never knew English was so complicated.

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#53 I_can_haz
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Baffles the mind how many people miss the point of the thread. It's not meant for arcade racers, it's asking if the consoles will ever get a REAL RACING SIM and nothing else. I never knew English was so complicated.

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:lol: What the hell is a "REAL RACING SIM"? There are sims and arcade racers. I don't recall the genre being divided into REAL, SEMI REAL, QUARTER REAL, and ARCADE? :lol: You sound butthurt about something. GT and Forza may not be the most realistic sims out there but they are still simulators. :cool: DEAL WITH IT.
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#54 percuvius2
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Baffles the mind how many people miss the point of the thread. It's not meant for arcade racers, it's asking if the consoles will ever get a REAL RACING SIM and nothing else. I never knew English was so complicated.

I_can_haz

:lol: What the hell is a "REAL RACING SIM"? There are sims and arcade racers. I don't recall the genre being divided into REAL, SEMI REAL, QUARTER REAL, and ARCADE? :lol: You sound butthurt about something. GT and Forza may not be the most realistic sims out there but they are still simulators. :cool: DEAL WITH IT.

If you don't know then please find a thread more suitable to your lack of sim racing knowledge. Forza and gt5 are GAMEPAD arcade racers.

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[QUOTE="lowe0"]Since the original poster is back, I'll ask again, why would the F1 series by Codemasters not count?percuvius2

Because it is simcade, I suppose you think Grid and Dirt are sims too, right? HAHAHA!

Not really, no, but F1 seems pretty solid. What isn't being simulated, or what's being simulated incorrectly?

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#56 percuvius2
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[QUOTE="percuvius2"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"]Since the original poster is back, I'll ask again, why would the F1 series by Codemasters not count?lowe0

Because it is simcade, I suppose you think Grid and Dirt are sims too, right? HAHAHA!

Not really, no, but F1 seems pretty solid. What isn't being stimulated, or what's being stimulated incorrectly?

Drive an F1 car in iRacing and then in codemasters arcade racer and comeback here.

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#57 lowe0
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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="percuvius2"]

Because it is simcade, I suppose you think Grid and Dirt are sims too, right? HAHAHA!

percuvius2

Not really, no, but F1 seems pretty solid. What isn't being stimulated, or what's being stimulated incorrectly?

Drive an F1 car in iRacing and then in codemasters arcade racer and comeback here.

My iRacing sub has lapsed. I didn't drive the F1; did drive the IndyCar, but preferred the Star Mazda.
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#58 percuvius2
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[QUOTE="percuvius2"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] Not really, no, but F1 seems pretty solid. What isn't being stimulated, or what's being stimulated incorrectly?lowe0

Drive an F1 car in iRacing and then in codemasters arcade racer and comeback here.

My iRacing sub has lapsed. I didn't drive the F1; did drive the IndyCar, but preferred the Star Mazda.

 

Drive it in rFactor2 then.

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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="percuvius2"]

Drive an F1 car in iRacing and then in codemasters arcade racer and comeback here.

percuvius2

My iRacing sub has lapsed. I didn't drive the F1; did drive the IndyCar, but preferred the Star Mazda.

 

Drive it in rFactor2 then.

You're gong to make me dig that out of my box of discs in the closet, plus a DVD drive (my desktop doesn't have one) because you can't enumerate your problems with F1?
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[QUOTE="I_can_haz"][QUOTE="percuvius2"]

Baffles the mind how many people miss the point of the thread. It's not meant for arcade racers, it's asking if the consoles will ever get a REAL RACING SIM and nothing else. I never knew English was so complicated.

percuvius2

:lol: What the hell is a "REAL RACING SIM"? There are sims and arcade racers. I don't recall the genre being divided into REAL, SEMI REAL, QUARTER REAL, and ARCADE? :lol: You sound butthurt about something. GT and Forza may not be the most realistic sims out there but they are still simulators. :cool: DEAL WITH IT.

If you don't know then please find a thread more suitable to your lack of sim racing knowledge. Forza and gt5 are GAMEPAD arcade racers.

:lol: and what is iRacing keyboard sim racer? Last I checked we can connect wheels to our PCs and consoles. It ain't 1989 anymore, I play GT5 with my racing wheel.

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[QUOTE="percuvius2"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"]Since the original poster is back, I'll ask again, why would the F1 series by Codemasters not count?lowe0

Because it is simcade, I suppose you think Grid and Dirt are sims too, right? HAHAHA!

Not really, no, but F1 seems pretty solid. What isn't being simulated, or what's being simulated incorrectly?

Yes they are simulated to a degree but its nothing on the level of some PC sim racers. Those games are for people to really get to the nitty gitty of setting up a car
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I don't care if the racing games are sim or not. Just give me an awesome racing game, whether it be be Burnout or Forza.

speedfreak48t5p

So you're saying NO to a new genre for your platform? 


No wonder you guys keep getting shoveled cod clones and movie games. 

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[QUOTE="speedfreak48t5p"]

I don't care if the racing games are sim or not. Just give me an awesome racing game, whether it be be Burnout or Forza.

Jankarcop

So you're saying NO to a new genre for your platform? 


No wonder you guys keep getting shoveled cod clones and movie games. 

To most, a hardcore sim is not fun.
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[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

[QUOTE="speedfreak48t5p"]

I don't care if the racing games are sim or not. Just give me an awesome racing game, whether it be be Burnout or Forza.

clyde46

So you're saying NO to a new genre for your platform? 


No wonder you guys keep getting shoveled cod clones and movie games. 

To most, a hardcore sim is not fun.

I'll be one of those ppl.

Burnout ftw!

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#65 Magik85
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Project C.A.R.S is comming to consoles.

Consoles are more focused on arcade/simcade but its not like there are no sims at all.

Afterall we had RBR on PS2 and Xbox. And thats argubly best sim ever made.

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#66 speedfreak48t5p
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

So you're saying NO to a new genre for your platform? 


No wonder you guys keep getting shoveled cod clones and movie games. 

AznbkdX

To most, a hardcore sim is not fun.

I'll be one of those ppl.

Burnout ftw!

*high five*
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[QUOTE="speedfreak48t5p"]

I don't care if the racing games are sim or not. Just give me an awesome racing game, whether it be be Burnout or Forza.

clyde46
This!

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[QUOTE="lowe0"] My iRacing sub has lapsed. I didn't drive the F1; did drive the IndyCar, but preferred the Star Mazda. lowe0

 

Drive it in rFactor2 then.

You're gong to make me dig that out of my box of discs in the closet, plus a DVD drive (my desktop doesn't have one) because you can't enumerate your problems with F1?

Don't really care at all what you do to be honest and I already answered your question about codemasters.

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[QUOTE="percuvius2"]

[QUOTE="I_can_haz"]:lol: What the hell is a "REAL RACING SIM"? There are sims and arcade racers. I don't recall the genre being divided into REAL, SEMI REAL, QUARTER REAL, and ARCADE? :lol: You sound butthurt about something. GT and Forza may not be the most realistic sims out there but they are still simulators. :cool: DEAL WITH IT.I_can_haz

If you don't know then please find a thread more suitable to your lack of sim racing knowledge. Forza and gt5 are GAMEPAD arcade racers.

:lol: and what is iRacing keyboard sim racer? Last I checked we can connect wheels to our PCs and consoles. It ain't 1989 anymore, I play GT5 with my racing wheel.

 

Show off that stupididty, it's very entertaining. Why don't you educate yourself and try playing iRacing with a keyboard and see what happens at the configure controls screen. You should go back to your gamepad and need for speed because you're clueless what a real sim is all about. gt5 was designed around a gamepad, FACT.

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#70 percuvius2
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Project C.A.R.S is comming to consoles.

Consoles are more focused on arcade/simcade but its not like there are no sims at all.

Afterall we had RBR on PS2 and Xbox. And thats argubly best sim ever made.

Magik85

 

Problem with pCars is that it's from the makers of the arcade racer Shift series, it'll be simcade and so far the best sim racer ever is hands down iRacing.

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[QUOTE="MasterX666"][QUOTE="percuvius2"]

Do you think consoles will move from the current arcade and simcade world of driving and racing sims and move into the real racing simulator genre and support all the extra hardware that goes with it?

the_bi99man

DUDE!!! I test drove a Lambo on a race track. Only difference from GT5 to real life is that in GT5 when you lose control it's because you kept the throttle trying to correct the car...You don't take that chance in a real Lambo...That's it that's all kids....I'm 33 and i know how to drive... So take it from me... GT5 is as close as it gets for now. Until GT6 that is!!!! PS to haters: NO I DID NOT TRY GTR ON PC ( SORRY I'M 33 and have a life so i can't try them all )

It's been a long while since I've seen a post oozing with such obvious insecurity. And total LOL at your comparison. 

Anyways, apparently Project Cars is supposed to be on consoles when it finally gets out of beta and sees a real release. Not sure if they're going for next-gen consoles, or if they're going to put a super stripped down version on the PS360. I hope they go for next gen.

I'm based on facts dum dum...I tried it, you did not. SO you know nothing!!!

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[QUOTE="lowe0"]You're gong to make me dig that out of my box of discs in the closet, plus a DVD drive (my desktop doesn't have one) because you can't enumerate your problems with F1?percuvius2

Don't really care at all what you do to be honest and I already answered your question about codemasters.

You call

Drive an F1 car in iRacing and then in codemasters arcade racer and comeback here.

percuvius2
an answer?
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#73 percuvius2
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[QUOTE="percuvius2"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"]

Don't really care at all what you do to be honest and I already answered your question about codemasters.

lowe0

You call

Drive an F1 car in iRacing and then in codemasters arcade racer and comeback here.

percuvius2

an answer?

You need a reality check if you think codemasters make sims. That is all.

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#74 percuvius2
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The closest to a real racing sim on any of the consoles is Sim Bin's Race Pro on the 360.

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#75 lowe0
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You need a reality check if you think codemasters make sims. That is all.

percuvius2
We're discussing one game, not their entire product line. That's like saying Square makes nothing but JRPGs, so Tomb Raider must be a JRPG too.
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#76 percuvius2
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[QUOTE="percuvius2"]

You need a reality check if you think codemasters make sims. That is all.

lowe0

We're discussing one game, not their entire product line. That's like saying Square makes nothing but JRPGs, so Tomb Raider must be a JRPG too.

I don't talk about *** crap.

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yes, and it will be called GT6FinalFighters
... And will be out in 2018 but then delayed till 2020.
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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="percuvius2"]

You need a reality check if you think codemasters make sims. That is all.

percuvius2

We're discussing one game, not their entire product line. That's like saying Square makes nothing but JRPGs, so Tomb Raider must be a JRPG too.

I don't talk about *** crap.

And you just lost all creditability you xenophobic scumbag.
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[QUOTE="FinalFighters"]yes, and it will be called GT6Grey_Eyed_Elf
... And will be out in 2018 but then delayed till 2020.

And will suck once again

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#80 nameless12345
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Not into this whole "elitist talk", but I will say that the Gran Turismo series has a very good racing model, even for "proper" race sim standards.

Sure, it's still a little on the arcade side, but it's a great "balance" of both worlds, imo.

But of course if you want more "in-deepth" race sims, PC is the only destination to go to.

I don't think those type of sims would have a big audience on the consoles to begin with.

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[QUOTE="percuvius2"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"]We're discussing one game, not their entire product line. That's like saying Square makes nothing but JRPGs, so Tomb Raider must be a JRPG too.clyde46

I don't talk about *** crap.

And you just lost all creditability you xenophobic scumbag.

Think I care what you think, eastern emo gamer? Whatever "creditability" is? Is that when my credit does a backflip?

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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="percuvius2"]

I don't talk about *** crap.

percuvius2

And you just lost all creditability you xenophobic scumbag.

Think I care what you think, eastern emo gamer? Whatever "creditability" is? Is that when my credit does a backflip?

To be honest, you never had any credibility to begin with.
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#83 percuvius2
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[QUOTE="percuvius2"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"] And you just lost all creditability you xenophobic scumbag. clyde46

Think I care what you think, eastern emo gamer? Whatever "creditability" is? Is that when my credit does a backflip?

To be honest, you never had any credibility to begin with.

Your opinion doesn't matter, eastern emo gamer.

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[QUOTE="percuvius2"]

Do you think consoles will move from the current arcade and simcade world of driving and racing sims and move into the real racing simulator genre and support all the extra hardware that goes with it?

MasterX666
DUDE!!! I test drove a Lambo on a race track. Only difference from GT5 to real life is that in GT5 when you lose control it's because you kept the throttle trying to correct the car...You don't take that chance in a real Lambo...That's it that's all kids....I'm 33 and i know how to drive... So take it from me... GT5 is as close as it gets for now. Until GT6 that is!!!! PS to haters: NO I DID NOT TRY GTR ON PC ( SORRY I'M 33 and have a life so i can't try them all )

Yeah...No you 're just a kid pretending to be a man online
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="percuvius2"]

Think I care what you think, eastern emo gamer? Whatever "creditability" is? Is that when my credit does a backflip?

percuvius2

To be honest, you never had any credibility to begin with.

Your opinion doesn't matter, eastern emo gamer.

Problem Xeno scum?
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Doubt it. Very few people would buy it.
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[QUOTE="MasterX666"][QUOTE="percuvius2"]

Do you think consoles will move from the current arcade and simcade world of driving and racing sims and move into the real racing simulator genre and support all the extra hardware that goes with it?

percuvius2

DUDE!!! I test drove a Lambo on a race track. Only difference from GT5 to real life is that in GT5 when you lose control it's because you kept the throttle trying to correct the car...You don't take that chance in a real Lambo...That's it that's all kids....I'm 33 and i know how to drive... So take it from me... GT5 is as close as it gets for now. Until GT6 that is!!!! PS to haters: NO I DID NOT TRY GTR ON PC ( SORRY I'M 33 and have a life so i can't try them all )

What utter RUBBISH. I have gt5 it's pure FN arcade and even uses RUBBERBAND in multiplayer racing. It was designed for racing with a GAMEPAD a FN GAMEPAD.

owned :lol:
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="percuvius2"]

Your opinion doesn't matter, eastern emo gamer.

percuvius2

Problem Xeno scum?

I'm glad you're offended, f@ggot.

So not only are you xenophobic, you are also homophobic. Do gay people scare you?
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[QUOTE="MasterX666"][QUOTE="percuvius2"]

Do you think consoles will move from the current arcade and simcade world of driving and racing sims and move into the real racing simulator genre and support all the extra hardware that goes with it?

the_bi99man

DUDE!!! I test drove a Lambo on a race track. Only difference from GT5 to real life is that in GT5 when you lose control it's because you kept the throttle trying to correct the car...You don't take that chance in a real Lambo...That's it that's all kids....I'm 33 and i know how to drive... So take it from me... GT5 is as close as it gets for now. Until GT6 that is!!!! PS to haters: NO I DID NOT TRY GTR ON PC ( SORRY I'M 33 and have a life so i can't try them all )

It's been a long while since I've seen a post oozing with such obvious insecurity. And total LOL at your comparison. 

Anyways, apparently Project Cars is supposed to be on consoles when it finally gets out of beta and sees a real release. Not sure if they're going for next-gen consoles, or if they're going to put a super stripped down version on the PS360. I hope they go for next gen.

hes an idiot
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[QUOTE="clyde46"] Problem Xeno scum?clyde46

I'm glad you're offended, f@ggot.

So not only are you xenophobic, you are also homophobic. Do gay people scare you?

You sure seem to care a lot about what I think. You eastern gamers sure are amusing as us Western Gamers couldn't care less what you think.

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[QUOTE="MasterX666"] DUDE!!! I test drove a Lambo on a race track. Only difference from GT5 to real life is that in GT5 when you lose control it's because you kept the throttle trying to correct the car...You don't take that chance in a real Lambo...That's it that's all kids....I'm 33 and i know how to drive... So take it from me... GT5 is as close as it gets for now. Until GT6 that is!!!! PS to haters: NO I DID NOT TRY GTR ON PC ( SORRY I'M 33 and have a life so i can't try them all )jessejay420

What utter RUBBISH. I have gt5 it's pure FN arcade and even uses RUBBERBAND in multiplayer racing. It was designed for racing with a GAMEPAD a FN GAMEPAD.

owned :lol:

 

Actually, GT5 needs a wheel to trully feel "right".

Polyphony have been upgrading the race model this whole time and GT5 feels much more "simmy" than the previous entries.

But whatever floats the elitist's boats...

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#93 hexashadow13
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="percuvius2"]

I'm glad you're offended, f@ggot.

percuvius2

So not only are you xenophobic, you are also homophobic. Do gay people scare you?

You sure seem to care a lot about what I think. You eastern gamers sure are amusing as us Western Gamers couldn't care less what you think.

Mate, you have issues.
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#94 clyde46
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="percuvius2"]

I'm glad you're offended, f@ggot.

percuvius2

So not only are you xenophobic, you are also homophobic. Do gay people scare you?

You sure seem to care a lot about what I think. You eastern gamers sure are amusing as us Western Gamers couldn't care less what you think.

Are you intimidated by gay people?
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[QUOTE="Grey_Eyed_Elf"][QUOTE="FinalFighters"]yes, and it will be called GT6percuvius2

... And will be out in 2018 but then delayed till 2020.

And will suck once again

indeed :lol:
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#96 percuvius2
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[QUOTE="jessejay420"][QUOTE="percuvius2"]

What utter RUBBISH. I have gt5 it's pure FN arcade and even uses RUBBERBAND in multiplayer racing. It was designed for racing with a GAMEPAD a FN GAMEPAD.

nameless12345

owned :lol:

 

Actually, GT5 needs a wheel to trully feel "right".

Polyphony have been upgrading the race model this whole time and GT5 feels much more "simmy" than the previous entries.

But whatever floats the elitist's boats...

Nothing you say will ever change the fact it was designed for a gamepad. It also doesn't feel right with a wheel unless your car WOBBLES down the straights in real life. The best FFB I've ever experienced is in rFactor 2. gt5 = WOBBLE, WOBBLE, WOBBLE

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#97 percuvius2
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[QUOTE="clyde46"] So not only are you xenophobic, you are also homophobic. Do gay people scare you?clyde46

You sure seem to care a lot about what I think. You eastern gamers sure are amusing as us Western Gamers couldn't care less what you think.

Are you intimidated by gay people?

 

You don't intimidate me in the least, but thanks for caring so much about what us Western Gamers think. I don't want to know what you think because I don't care.

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#98 percuvius2
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[QUOTE="clyde46"] So not only are you xenophobic, you are also homophobic. Do gay people scare you?hexashadow13

You sure seem to care a lot about what I think. You eastern gamers sure are amusing as us Western Gamers couldn't care less what you think.

Mate, you have issues.

 

says the guy with ZERO achievements

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#99 clyde46
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="percuvius2"]

You sure seem to care a lot about what I think. You eastern gamers sure are amusing as us Western Gamers couldn't care less what you think.

percuvius2

Are you intimidated by gay people?

 

You don't intimidate me in the least, but thanks for caring so much about what us Western Gamers think. I don't want to know what you think because I don't care.

What makes you think I'm from the East?
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#100 percuvius2
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[QUOTE="clyde46"] Are you intimidated by gay people? clyde46

 

You don't intimidate me in the least, but thanks for caring so much about what us Western Gamers think. I don't want to know what you think because I don't care.

What makes you think I'm from the East?

 

Did you not get the memo about me not caring? I'll make sure you get another copy of that memo.