WiiU, Vita, 3DS have no future according to EA!!!

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#1 Posted by dobzilian (3289 posts) -

According to Peter Moore from EA.

ARTICLE.

We were supportive of both of those platforms. But then you’ve got finite resources and you’ve got teams that say, ‘We really think that two or three years from now, these are the platforms that people are going to be consuming games on.’ And you look at the quality of what you can do on phones and tablets… Sometimes strategy is not about what you do but what you don’t do, and you have to make some hard calls when you’ve got only so many people. To my point, we’ve got to be planning for FY 17 and 18. Do you think the Vita and 3DS are going to be around in some shape or fashion by then on a scale level?

http://wiiudaily.com/2014/07/ea-on-the-future/

Your thoughts people.

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#2 Posted by LegatoSkyheart (28713 posts) -

Well they have no interest in those platforms. That was very obvious from the get go.

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#3 Posted by dobzilian (3289 posts) -

@LegatoSkyheart: surprising how many reasons "excuses" you can come up without saying "We just dont want or need to support these platform's and never intended too".

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#4 Posted by nintendoboy16 (31693 posts) -

Well, at this point, I'm hardly seeing a reason to support EA. As much as Wii U and Vita need support, the less platforms with EA support, the better.

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#5 Posted by FireEmblem_Man (14560 posts) -

I say its EA shooting in its own foot again.

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#6 Posted by YearoftheSnake5 (9031 posts) -

I didn't see where he said the Wii U has no future.

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#7 Posted by trugs26 (7250 posts) -

Honestly, I really dislike EA's lack of support for struggling platforms. They go on about supporting the industry and crap like "Console wars is good for the industry". Well supporting platforms that struggle in some aspects is a big help. Their withdrawal as the second largest third party publisher is a big hit to the platforms, which in turn makes their struggle even worse.

I feel the bigger companies need to take it on the chin for the early years of struggling platforms to give them the support to grow. EA pulled out far too early.

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#9 Posted by R4gn4r0k (23852 posts) -

I wondered why there was no FIFA 15 announced for Vita

Now I know

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#10 Posted by MirkoS77 (11297 posts) -

Honestly, who cares what EA says?

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#11 Posted by nintendoboy16 (31693 posts) -

@YearoftheSnake5 said:

I didn't see where he said the Wii U has no future.

I think it's obvious they think that considering that isn't getting any support from them right now.

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#12 Posted by nintendoboy16 (31693 posts) -

@MirkoS77 said:

Honestly, who cares what EA says?

Those that are trying to claim ownage on another faction? I remember Cows and Lems laughing at sheep and the Wii U for missing their support.

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#13 Edited by ShepardCommandr (4261 posts) -

EA games are crap

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#15 Posted by speedfreak48t5p (11991 posts) -

Did EA just call the 3DS a failure? lulz

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#16 Edited by Shewgenja (16568 posts) -

Go figure, they'd rather spend development dollars on mobile games than actual core games. These megapublishers aren't seeing the forest for the trees and abandoning the market that built them. Stereotypical bean-counter corporate expansionism thinking that leads to market crashes. They don't want to help the ecosystem of gaming, only strip mine it and then unplug when things go bad.

This thread is the biggest reason why "indy" shouldn't be a bad word.

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#17 Edited by YearoftheSnake5 (9031 posts) -

@nintendoboy16 said:

@YearoftheSnake5 said:

I didn't see where he said the Wii U has no future.

I think it's obvious they think that considering that isn't getting any support from them right now.

That's irrelevant. The thread title is misleading. The only place Moore mentions Wii U is:

"Consumers love it as well, and it's good for the industry," he said. "You need powerful companies like Sony and Microsoft to be battling out with each other because it drives investment in their platforms. It drives competition. You want to see Nintendo come back with the Wii U. All in all, it becomes healthy for gamers, for the environment. When you have a runaway winner, that actually has a reverse effect."

Nowhere does he discuss that there is no future for Wii U in this interview, at least from what I've read. I'd love for someone to point out where, though.

I don't disagree about EA's lack of support for the platform. It's obvious that they have very little interest in it - even right from the get go.

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#18 Edited by Telekill (6566 posts) -

Out of the three the 3DS has the brighter future. Wii-U isn't a system I'll buy due to Nintendo's moronic ideals for controllers. PSV is dead after October as the entire AAA industry (Sony included) has given up on the damn thing.

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#19 Posted by Animal-Mother (27336 posts) -

How did EA go from a bit of a darling releasing so many new IPs last gen to becoming complete and utter loons again?

Dead space, bad company, mirrors edge, bulletstorm, burnout paradise, Dragon Age, Kingdoms of amalur,

I mean they helped give breath and life to all these new IPs and great sequels and they just royally screwed it up

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#20 Posted by foxhound_fox (95462 posts) -

Fiscal year 17/18? Yeah, the 3DS successor is likely to be coming out. Sometimes I wonder how much sense these people have.

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#21 Posted by LordQuorthon (5430 posts) -

They said the same thing about the NES back in the day.

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#22 Posted by Shinobishyguy (22924 posts) -

@foxhound_fox: I guess by then they'll have to prepare a reason why they aren't supporting nintendo's next handheld

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#23 Edited by bbkkristian (14971 posts) -

Guess EA only does AAA games. That was the catch about handhelds, developments costs are lowered, and graphics aren't as important. They should pull a Ubisoft and make a small budget game like Ubi did with Child of Light. Find what inspires their team and divulge away from the same AAA shooter and sports game. But, nope, EA just being the leech of the industry like normal.

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#24 Posted by charizard1605 (76117 posts) -

He never said anything about Wii U? In fact the only thing he said about Wii U was 'we want Nintendo to come back stronger with the Wii U,' so I don't know why you decided to club it in with the handhelds there.

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#25 Posted by DJ-Lafleur (35098 posts) -

Can't really blame EA for not wanting to support the Vita when Sony themselves seem to stopped caring for it a while ago.

As for the Wii U, I can't say I would exactly blame them for not wanting to support the Wii U, since I would imagine their titles would be significantly less successful on it than Sony's or Microsoft's consoles, atleast when talking to Stuff like Madden and Call of Duty.

Bringing up the 3DS was kind of silly though. Yes, the system doesn't really have much of a future, though that's because the system has already been out for quite a while. I'm guessing we aren't THAT far away from Nintendo unveiling whatever their next handheld will be.

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#26 Posted by TrappedInABox91 (1483 posts) -

I see them giving up on the Vita. Hell, Sony themselves are even doing that. The 3DS has 45 million units sold...Yeah, that useless thing has no future lol

When it comes down it it though...Does anyone actually want EA around anyway? They make shit.

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#27 Edited by Speak_Low (2248 posts) -

Right on the money Peter.

We're already talking about a Nintendo successor because they'll need it in 2016. And by the time we get there, the PS4 and X1 will be doing way better than the Wii U ever did. And sales are gradually getting worse for both handhelds too. EA and every publisher in the world knows what the picture will look like in 2-3 years.

The opposition will have nothing to add to what Peter just laid down, so now they'll attack EA and bring up "worst company ever" like those are actual good arguments. EA doesn't have time for child's play. Hush now

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#28 Posted by dobzilian (3289 posts) -

@charizard1605: Add more Fuel to the fire and he doesnt need to mention the WiiU as even EA are more supportive of the Wii than the WiiU. If I remember correcty isnt there a FIFA 15 being released on the Wii and no WiiU.

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#29 Posted by Bigboi500 (35550 posts) -

@nintendoboy16 said:

@MirkoS77 said:

Honestly, who cares what EA says?

Those that are trying to claim ownage on another faction? I remember Cows and Lems laughing at sheep and the Wii U for missing their support.

Do you care what those factions think? If you do, you shouldn't. They're insignificant cockroaches.

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#30 Edited by nini200 (11477 posts) -

I remember when EA actually was a good company. They were known as Electronic Arts then.

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#31 Posted by osan0 (14381 posts) -

have no future for EA games i think is more accurate. battlefield, crysis, mass effect, dragon age....these games dont have an audience on handhelds and also dont have an audience on the wiiu.

i cant think of a single game EA make where i would think "man i have to play the wiiu or vita version". their tablet/mobile phone business is nothing short of an absolute disgrace. game design by accountants. to see those games on any platform would just drag it down (seriosuly MS, sony and ninty should flat out ban such practices on their platforms. dont ban F2p....ban blatant taking the whizz).

they dont make 3ds games (i dont see it listed on their webiste at all) so you cant have a future on a platform if you dont actually release anything for that platform.

did they take a punt at madden on the wiiu? surely the wiius gamepad (and vita/PS4) would make arranging plays all the better? did they bother and, if they did, did they somehow nerf the game?

but anyway they are right. those platforms dont have a future for the games EA make.

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#32 Posted by lamprey263 (33083 posts) -

Nintendo would likely have to pay EA money to develop titles, if I were Nintendo I'd finance some cheap stuff, exclusive downloadable titles like a Battlefield 2143, or games like NFL Blitz, NHL Hitz, NBA Jams, and MLB Slugfest. There's really no point right now trying to get games that are ported to current and last gen Xbox and PlayStation.

Or, better yet, make the next Blitz, Hitz, Jams, and Slugfest games, but instead of licensing the costly sports league names and player rosters, just scrap all that, make these games but instead create teams using Nintendo characters from their numerous franchises, and maybe even bring in third party content much like is done for the Smash Bros games. That way Nintendo can stand out as having something unique that none of the other consoles will have, and EA would stand to benefit from being able to utilize Nintendo's licenses.

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#33 Posted by DaBrainz (7738 posts) -

Too bad because madden 13 WiiU was the best version by far IMO.

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#34 Edited by enzyme36 (2355 posts) -

EAs efforts on Wii and 3DS ranged from half-hearted to down right abysmal... I am not saying that Nintendo doesnt need 3rd party, but it can certainly do without EAs shovelware.

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#35 Edited by Speak_Low (2248 posts) -

Btw you could take out the EA mention in the article or Peter Moore's name and replace it with other AAA publishers, and the statements and strategy still hold true.

We were supportive of both of those platforms. But then you’ve got finite resources and you’ve got teams that say, ‘We really think that two or three years from now, these are the platforms that people are going to be consuming games on.’ And you look at the quality of what you can do on phones and tablets… Sometimes strategy is not about what you do but what you don’t do, and you have to make some hard calls when you’ve got only so many people. To my point, we’ve got to be planning for FY 17 and 18. Do you think the Vita and 3DS are going to be around in some shape or fashion by then on a scale level?

I saw so many complaints about why this Square-Enix game or 2K Game or EA game isn't coming to the Wii U. If they aren't making enough money and they have limited teams, it's going to make sense that games like Kingdom Hearts 3, Tomb Raider, GTA, Bioshock and Dragon Age 3 aren't coming to the console.

Not much you can really expand on something so simple. If this were Nintendo being conservative and cautious, Sheep would be fully supportive and celebrating their decisions (they got really MAD when I said they don't stretch out far enough sometimes). Sheep may even go so far as to call it "magnificent wisdom" on Nintendo's part, lol. So it's okay for Nintendo to take all their time, to give these magical teams enough space to do their thing.

But because EA's name is at the head of the article, everything below it wrong or misguided, and they're dumb and lazy for not stretching out enough or pumping out 6 versions of every single game. People seem to forget that nearly every major AAA publisher is treating these two Nintendo platforms in a similar way - they don't need to give out interviews for you to know their current position (or reasoning) on things in regards to Nintendo right now. You can see everything in plain sight, just as Peter Moore has spelled out. He has spoken for one, he has spoken for all. 2016 and beyond is not going to be a surprise, and we know which two consoles will have the most support from every AAA publisher.

Nintendo could change this entire story and make all the critics shut up and reassure publishers that their current (and next) console is worthy of being supported. So what are these considerable steps they're taking to bring up the sales and to ensure that every AAA publisher nets profit on a Wii U game? What are they doing to make them feel better that games like GTA, Tomb Raider, Bioshock and Dragon Age 3 will sell more than 4-5+ million at least and not struggle to crack 1 million like what usually happens?

You want to make them stuff a sock in it then put some damn numbers up. Sub-one million in Wii U software sales has to now become 4-5+ million like the other multiplat versions. 3DS games have to earn incredible profit - not just "barely break even tee hee"

Nobody has sympathy for "just wait a little longer for us, and give us a chance with some more ports in the meantime" when publishers have already done enough of that for the Wii U. Honeymoon period was over a long time ago. "Please wait and understand" is stalling language that soon turns into pathetic chump language the longer companies have to put up with it.

Nintendo: the ball is in your court. Learn how to damn dribble first before you blame publishers for not letting you be as successful as others.

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#36 Edited by dobzilian (3289 posts) -

@nini200: Roadrash was the first memorable game from them for myself. Desert & Jungle Strike where awesome too.

Seems like they are supporting Vita and 3DS with FIFA at least but no WiiU.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Electronic-Arts-FIFA-Nintendo-Wii/dp/B00KHJLGKC

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#37 Edited by nini200 (11477 posts) -

@dobzilian said:

@nini200: Roadrash was the first memorable game from them for myself. Desert & Jungle Strike where awesome too.

Yeah man. Road Rash was the best. Oh wow lol Desert & Jungle Strike lol Nice

The good days of EA, but those days are long gone

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#38 Posted by Ghost120x (4918 posts) -

Well, that sucks. I was hoping for a dead space game on vita one day.

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#39 Posted by dobzilian (3289 posts) -

@nini200: I quite enjoyed Theme Park and Hospital also. I think last gen I played 2 to 3 Need for Speeds, Mirrors Edge and Dead Space 1 & 2.

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#40 Edited by inb4uall (6564 posts) -

@dobzilian said:

According to Peter Moore from EA.

ARTICLE.

We were supportive of both of those platforms. But then you’ve got finite resources and you’ve got teams that say, ‘We really think that two or three years from now, these are the platforms that people are going to be consuming games on.’ And you look at the quality of what you can do on phones and tablets… Sometimes strategy is not about what you do but what you don’t do, and you have to make some hard calls when you’ve got only so many people. To my point, we’ve got to be planning for FY 17 and 18. Do you think the Vita and 3DS are going to be around in some shape or fashion by then on a scale level?

http://wiiudaily.com/2014/07/ea-on-the-future/

Your thoughts people.

Those are the only consoles worthy of purchase so far this gen. Looks like EA has no future in my household.

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#41 Posted by KBFloYd (16189 posts) -

@osan0 said:

have no future for EA games i think is more accurate. battlefield, crysis, mass effect, dragon age....these games dont have an audience on handhelds and also dont have an audience on the wiiu.

i cant think of a single game EA make where i would think "man i have to play the wiiu or vita version". their tablet/mobile phone business is nothing short of an absolute disgrace. game design by accountants. to see those games on any platform would just drag it down (seriosuly MS, sony and ninty should flat out ban such practices on their platforms. dont ban F2p....ban blatant taking the whizz).

they dont make 3ds games (i dont see it listed on their webiste at all) so you cant have a future on a platform if you dont actually release anything for that platform.

did they take a punt at madden on the wiiu? surely the wiius gamepad (and vita/PS4) would make arranging plays all the better? did they bother and, if they did, did they somehow nerf the game?

but anyway they are right. those platforms dont have a future for the games EA make.

yea...they really painted themselves into a corner by offering no variety in their games....they have 1 market and thats it.

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#42 Posted by LJS9502_basic (158147 posts) -

@nintendoboy16 said:

Well, at this point, I'm hardly seeing a reason to support EA. As much as Wii U and Vita need support, the less platforms with EA support, the better.

I haven't supported EA since they dissed the DC.....

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#43 Edited by Shadowchronicle (26969 posts) -

Is the next comment made by EA going to be that they're making a new portable?

I mean its obvious with the phones and all but what made someone from EA come out and say that?

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#44 Posted by Bigboi500 (35550 posts) -

Damn I was expecting Mass Effect 4 on 3DS.

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#45 Posted by PhazonBlazer (12008 posts) -

Well that's true isn't it? For Wii U at least.

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#46 Edited by LegatoSkyheart (28713 posts) -

@dobzilian said:

@LegatoSkyheart: surprising how many reasons "excuses" you can come up without saying "We just dont want or need to support these platform's and never intended too".

Yeah it's pretty stupid. But I think the most legitimate excuse they can have right now is that Development costs are so high right now they can't afford to make "AA or A" titles as well as "AAA" titles any more. It's "AAA" or nothing.

Sure they got PoP Cap doing their bidding on Mobile, but those games are terrible. They can't do stuff like that on PS4 and Xbone they gotta up their game. They know stuff like Simcity, Dead Space 3, and Battlefield 4 isn't going to fly this generation.

Will they stop doing the Always online Singleplayer, Microtransactions, or Releasing Yearly (broken) Battlefields? Heck no, they will continue to do that stuff till they go broke. But they will try their darnest to make that game pretty. Just look at Dragon Age.

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#47 Posted by 2Chalupas (6269 posts) -

@Animal-Mother said:

How did EA go from a bit of a darling releasing so many new IPs last gen to becoming complete and utter loons again?

Dead space, bad company, mirrors edge, bulletstorm, burnout paradise, Dragon Age, Kingdoms of amalur,

I mean they helped give breath and life to all these new IPs and great sequels and they just royally screwed it up

Probably change in leadership? They actually had a "core franchise" strategy years ago. Then all of a sudden they changed the emphasis: created many new IP's, and had that partnership program with some 3rd party studios. But you have to admit, while they had some great games in there, some of them were sales flops (Syndicate, Kingdoms, Dead Space 3, Crysis 3, etc). So they are now going back to an even more streamlined "core franchise" strategy. I think they only have plans for like 10 franchise games going forward - with very little new IP. When this fails (as it inevitably will) we will proably see the pendulum go back the other way again - and they will create some new IP, buy new IP, or resurrect some old-dormant ones.

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#48 Posted by deactivated-57ad0e5285d73 (21398 posts) -

Whoever made this statement is probably blowing his/her higher up right now. If the person in charge said it, then he/she is doing so to all the shareholders.

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#49 Posted by nintendoboy16 (31693 posts) -

@Bigboi500 said:

Do you care what those factions think? If you do, you shouldn't. They're insignificant cockroaches.

I don't. But, for the sake of SW, they seem to when it fits them.

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#50 Posted by deactivated-57ad0e5285d73 (21398 posts) -

Wiiu and nintendo IS the future. Gamers will realize this over the course of this generation.