Wii U is weaker than PS3 and Xbox 360?

#101 Edited by FreedomFreeLife (3186 posts) -

@ps4hasnogames said:

@FreedomFreeLife said:

@XboxStache said:

Omitting DK tropical Freeze and SM3D?...yeah...troll bait...

Really?

Wii U

XBOX 360:

PS3:

You're comparing games with completely different art styles, mario is not meant to look realistic, its meant to be cartoony and simple. uncharted 3 is meant to look as realistic as possible, same for forza. The wii u doesn't really have any realistic styled games for you to compare, maybe mass effect 3 and zombie U.

2D looks worse than 3D game.

If we take art styles, then you blind or what? Those games all look cartoony and simple. Also, realistic takes more power than cartoon.

Look:

Wii U:

Xbox 360:

Or Wii U:

PS3:

@Randolph said:

Oh and that first pic is of Bayonetta (Xbox 360), not Bayonetta 2. (Wii U)

Sorry about then. Nintendo website game me wrong picture of game then.

I add other Bayonetta picture then.

#102 Posted by lostrib (44569 posts) -

@FreedomFreeLife said:

@ps4hasnogames said:

@FreedomFreeLife said:

@XboxStache said:

Omitting DK tropical Freeze and SM3D?...yeah...troll bait...

Really?

Wii U

XBOX 360:

PS3:

You're comparing games with completely different art styles, mario is not meant to look realistic, its meant to be cartoony and simple. uncharted 3 is meant to look as realistic as possible, same for forza. The wii u doesn't really have any realistic styled games for you to compare, maybe mass effect 3 and zombie U.

2D looks worse than 3D game.

If we take art styles, then you blind or what? Those games all look cartoony and simple. Also, realistic takes more power than cartoon.

Look:

Wii U:

Xbox 360:

Or Wii U:

PS3:

@Randolph said:

Oh and that first pic is of Bayonetta (Xbox 360), not Bayonetta 2. (Wii U)

Sorry about then. Nintendo website game me wrong picture of game then.

I add other Bayonetta picture then.

Try to at least be honest, and not use bullshots.

That image opens to 1440p and seems to have no jaggies

I'm sure it's not the only bullshot you've used in this thread

#103 Edited by FreedomFreeLife (3186 posts) -

I guess you never played this game then

@lostrib said:

@FreedomFreeLife said:

@ps4hasnogames said:

@FreedomFreeLife said:

@XboxStache said:

Omitting DK tropical Freeze and SM3D?...yeah...troll bait...

Really?

Wii U

XBOX 360:

PS3:

You're comparing games with completely different art styles, mario is not meant to look realistic, its meant to be cartoony and simple. uncharted 3 is meant to look as realistic as possible, same for forza. The wii u doesn't really have any realistic styled games for you to compare, maybe mass effect 3 and zombie U.

2D looks worse than 3D game.

If we take art styles, then you blind or what? Those games all look cartoony and simple. Also, realistic takes more power than cartoon.

Look:

Wii U:

Xbox 360:

Or Wii U:

PS3:

@Randolph said:

Oh and that first pic is of Bayonetta (Xbox 360), not Bayonetta 2. (Wii U)

Sorry about then. Nintendo website game me wrong picture of game then.

I add other Bayonetta picture then.

Try to at least be honest, and not use bullshots.

That image opens to 1440p and seems to have no jaggies

I'm sure it's not the only bullshot you've used in this thread

I guess you never played this game then. i played and no jaggies.

In fact those are from ingame. I just made image bigger, thats all.

How about buy console and try yourself out.

#104 Posted by lostrib (44569 posts) -

@FreedomFreeLife said:

I guess you never played this game then

@lostrib said:

@FreedomFreeLife said:

@ps4hasnogames said:

@FreedomFreeLife said:

@XboxStache said:

Omitting DK tropical Freeze and SM3D?...yeah...troll bait...

Really?

Wii U

XBOX 360:

PS3:

You're comparing games with completely different art styles, mario is not meant to look realistic, its meant to be cartoony and simple. uncharted 3 is meant to look as realistic as possible, same for forza. The wii u doesn't really have any realistic styled games for you to compare, maybe mass effect 3 and zombie U.

2D looks worse than 3D game.

If we take art styles, then you blind or what? Those games all look cartoony and simple. Also, realistic takes more power than cartoon.

Look:

Wii U:

Xbox 360:

Or Wii U:

PS3:

@Randolph said:

Oh and that first pic is of Bayonetta (Xbox 360), not Bayonetta 2. (Wii U)

Sorry about then. Nintendo website game me wrong picture of game then.

I add other Bayonetta picture then.

Try to at least be honest, and not use bullshots.

That image opens to 1440p and seems to have no jaggies

I'm sure it's not the only bullshot you've used in this thread

I guess you never played this game then. i played and no jaggies.

In fact those are from ingame. I just made image bigger, thats all.

How about buy console and try yourself out.

So you upscaled an image to 1440p for just no reason

while the rest of the images you just posted are 720p, and supposedly in game but have absolutely no hud?

How about you stop obsessing so much about the WiiU?

#105 Edited by FreedomFreeLife (3186 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@FreedomFreeLife said:

I guess you never played this game then

@lostrib said:

@FreedomFreeLife said:

@ps4hasnogames said:

@FreedomFreeLife said:

@XboxStache said:

Omitting DK tropical Freeze and SM3D?...yeah...troll bait...

Really?

Wii U

XBOX 360:

PS3:

You're comparing games with completely different art styles, mario is not meant to look realistic, its meant to be cartoony and simple. uncharted 3 is meant to look as realistic as possible, same for forza. The wii u doesn't really have any realistic styled games for you to compare, maybe mass effect 3 and zombie U.

2D looks worse than 3D game.

If we take art styles, then you blind or what? Those games all look cartoony and simple. Also, realistic takes more power than cartoon.

Look:

Wii U:

Xbox 360:

Or Wii U:

PS3:

@Randolph said:

Oh and that first pic is of Bayonetta (Xbox 360), not Bayonetta 2. (Wii U)

Sorry about then. Nintendo website game me wrong picture of game then.

I add other Bayonetta picture then.

Try to at least be honest, and not use bullshots.

That image opens to 1440p and seems to have no jaggies

I'm sure it's not the only bullshot you've used in this thread

I guess you never played this game then. i played and no jaggies.

In fact those are from ingame. I just made image bigger, thats all.

How about buy console and try yourself out.

So you upscaled an image to 1440p for just no reason

while the rest of the images you just posted are 720p, and supposedly in game but have absolutely no hud?

How about you stop obsessing so much about the WiiU?

Just stop ignoring facts.

#106 Edited by ActicEdge (24492 posts) -

@FreedomFreeLife said:

Just stop ignoring facts.

Use pictures rendered at the actual resolution the console outputs. No one cares about whether you "played" it and think it looks like a 1440p rendered game.

#107 Posted by Shinobishyguy (22765 posts) -

Are people really comparing that bland-ass kinect game to Mario kart? For what purpose?

#108 Posted by ZombeGoast (437 posts) -

Yes its weaker. Just like how PCs can't run Dark Souls at 60fps.

#109 Posted by MonsieurX (32198 posts) -

@FreedomFreeLife said:

Just stop ignoring facts.

It's hard to ignore facts when there weren't any in the start

#110 Posted by Martin_G_N (1736 posts) -

Yes, the wiiU is weaker. The CPU and memory is old and slow, the GPU is faster but not by much. The PS3 actually has more brute force with the CPU and GPU combined. The only thing the WiiU has as an advantage is twice the amount of memory.

#111 Edited by Speak_Low (1296 posts) -

@Martin_G_N said:

Yes, the wiiU is weaker. The CPU and memory is old and slow, the GPU is faster but not by much. The PS3 actually has more brute force with the CPU and GPU combined. The only thing the WiiU has as an advantage is twice the amount of memory.

Exactly. That's the bottom line problem right there. Wii U hardware is too close to last-gen hardware, and despite what Sheep say, it does have an affect on the Wii U sales and how the public views the console's future.

Nintendo posted their crappy sales today, and every month the Wii U can't outsell the PS4/X1 or even the PS360 (although in some months it barely beats the PS3).

So if you look at why that is the case - it's clear that consumers feel the upgrade to PS4/X1 is significant enough to be worth the purchase. And those buying more PS360s every month feel it has the bigger library. Basically the Wii U doesn't excel in anything, and that Gamepad is barely being used and hardly innovative.

Low-end hardware gives you middling-to-crap sales in today's increasingly competitive climate. And the old excuse that hardware doesn't matter is just that - old. Today, the most powerful home console is about to win this generation. Get with the times and adapt Nintendo (and truthfully, powerful hardware could've won but Nintendo had to insert some quirky, stupid, crippling features into the N64 and GCN to be different). Powerful hardware could work well - it's just that Nintendo isn't the best example (because powerful hardware needs good third-party relationships and marketing - things that Sony/MS know how to do better)

Pathetic hardware.

#112 Edited by aia89 (2287 posts) -

Yeah, except, too bad, I'm gonna play games, while you stick with those wannabe movies with cutscenes in between offered by Sony and Microsoft.

#113 Posted by FreedomFreeLife (3186 posts) -

@MonsieurX said:

@FreedomFreeLife said:

Just stop ignoring facts.

It's hard to ignore facts when there weren't any in the start

Pictures proves something else.

#114 Edited by MonsieurX (32198 posts) -

@FreedomFreeLife: Your pictures only prove your stupidity

#115 Posted by StrongBlackVine (9725 posts) -
@KBFloYd said:

nintendos games have mostly cartoony artstyle...

the flopstation3 and 360 aim for realistic graphics.

the hardware inside the wiiu is more advanced than those systems though.

Yeah unfortunately the Wii U is dog shit compared to current gen consoles.

#116 Posted by FreedomFreeLife (3186 posts) -

@MonsieurX said:

@FreedomFreeLife: Your pictures only prove your stupidity

You just got owned.

#117 Posted by lostrib (44569 posts) -

@FreedomFreeLife said:

@MonsieurX said:

@FreedomFreeLife: Your pictures only prove your stupidity

You just got owned.

Pretty sure you've never "owned" anyone in your life

#118 Edited by Salt_The_Fries (10587 posts) -

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@R4gn4r0k said:

@FreedomFreeLife said:

Xbox 360 exclusive:

Bloom does not equal good looking game

I remember when people thought halo 4 was graphics king, lol.

Oh gees that geometry complexity is so non-existent. that's canyons literally just textured slabs.

Halo: Reach is much more complex and its engine is very impressive.

#119 Edited by R4gn4r0k (17620 posts) -

@Salt_The_Fries said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

I remember when people thought halo 4 was graphics king, lol.

Oh gees that geometry complexity is so non-existent. that's canyons literally just textured slabs.

Halo: Reach is much more complex and its engine is very impressive.

@ReadingRainbow4: I remember that too, people were constantly showing gifs from that CG teaser. Hahahahahaha

@Salt_The_Fries: Still have to play Reach myself. Last one I finished was Halo 3 so I need to play ODST next.

#120 Posted by MonsieurX (32198 posts) -

@FreedomFreeLife: I'll just keep laughing at the ownage you got served in the other thread, that was magnificient

#121 Edited by FreedomFreeLife (3186 posts) -

@MonsieurX said:

@FreedomFreeLife: I'll just keep laughing at the ownage you got served in the other thread, that was magnificient

??? You got owned. PS3 and XBOX 360 > WII U

FACT

#122 Edited by MonsieurX (32198 posts) -

@FreedomFreeLife: Saying things out of your ass =/= fact

But you getting owned everywhere, that's a well common fact in SW

#123 Posted by FreedomFreeLife (3186 posts) -

@MonsieurX said:

@FreedomFreeLife: Saying things out of your ass =/= fact

But you getting owned everywhere, that's a well common fact in SW

I just proved how weak Wii U is. You keep ignoring facts = you keep getting owned EVERY TIME.

#124 Edited by MonsieurX (32198 posts) -

@FreedomFreeLife: You never proved anything, please stop the butthurt.

#125 Posted by FreedomFreeLife (3186 posts) -

@MonsieurX said:

@FreedomFreeLife: You never proved anything, please stop the butthurt.

I already proved with screenshots. Everyone can see clearly which console has better graphics

#126 Posted by MonsieurX (32198 posts) -

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/this-is-what-legend-of-zelda-looks-like-in-unreal--31248944/

The great FreedomForLife ownage

As I said, your screenshots proved nothing

#127 Edited by FreedomFreeLife (3186 posts) -

@MonsieurX said:

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/this-is-what-legend-of-zelda-looks-like-in-unreal--31248944/

The great FreedomForLife ownage

As I said, your screenshots proved nothing

lol its not even zelda game. Why you showing me PC unreal engime game?

This is your game

#128 Edited by Salt_The_Fries (10587 posts) -

@R4gn4r0k said:

@Salt_The_Fries said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

I remember when people thought halo 4 was graphics king, lol.

Oh gees that geometry complexity is so non-existent. that's canyons literally just textured slabs.

Halo: Reach is much more complex and its engine is very impressive.

@ReadingRainbow4: I remember that too, people were constantly showing gifs from that CG teaser. Hahahahahaha

@Salt_The_Fries: Still have to play Reach myself. Last one I finished was Halo 3 so I need to play ODST next.

ODST has a really varied albeit short campaign and it presents a nice change of pace because of lack of usual Spartan armor powers (no crazy jumping, no shields), so instead of the hunter, you've become flat-out hunted.

#129 Edited by MonsieurX (32198 posts) -

@FreedomFreeLife: And you claimed in that thread that this was Zelda Wii U

What a joke you are

#130 Posted by BattleSpectre (7774 posts) -

That first Uncharted shot is a fucking bullshot. I played the game and on that level it was jaggy around the edges as expected. If you're going to compare games have the balls to use in-game shots.

#131 Posted by 93BlackHawk93 (6496 posts) -

@FreedomFreeLife said:

@MonsieurX said:

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/this-is-what-legend-of-zelda-looks-like-in-unreal--31248944/

The great FreedomForLife ownage

As I said, your screenshots proved nothing

lol its not even zelda game. Why you showing me PC unreal engime game?

This is your game

Unable to see your stupidity?

#132 Posted by R4gn4r0k (17620 posts) -

@Salt_The_Fries said:

ODST has a really varied albeit short campaign and it presents a nice change of pace because of lack of usual Spartan armor powers (no crazy jumping, no shields), so instead of the hunter, you've become flat-out hunted.

That's nice.

I played Halo: Anniversary, Halo 2 and Halo 3 one after another and they felt a bit samey. Though the pacing in the games was really nice. Halo 3 had the exact same ending level as Halo 1 though, lol.

#133 Edited by DocSanchez (2716 posts) -

The fact that this is even an argument is a joke and Nintendo is the punch line. We had this all throughout the last gen with the wii. People assured us it was more powerful than Xbox and it never once proved it. Wii U hasn't once proved it's more powerful than either of the last gen HD consoles. The proof of the pudding is in the eating, and wii u is serving up last years mouldy leftovers.

#134 Edited by clone01 (25462 posts) -

Who cares besides fanboys, TC?

#135 Posted by MonsieurX (32198 posts) -

@93BlackHawk93 said:

@FreedomFreeLife said:

@MonsieurX said:

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/this-is-what-legend-of-zelda-looks-like-in-unreal--31248944/

The great FreedomForLife ownage

As I said, your screenshots proved nothing

lol its not even zelda game. Why you showing me PC unreal engime game?

This is your game

Unable to see your stupidity?

Quoting for the extra lolz

#136 Posted by Speak_Low (1296 posts) -

Raise of hands PS4, X1 and Wii U: which one of you is the closest to last-gen hardware. Which one of you has certain specs that aren't even double what is found inside a PS360? Which one of you causes developers the most aggravation and the need for comprimises??

Whoever raises their hand, I want you to get out of the room. This is the Next-Gen room only

Wii U: *cries*

#137 Posted by ZombeGoast (437 posts) -

I wonder if people ever bother reading what developers have said about the Wii U's hardware. Look at Shin'en, yeah they only makes games on Nintendo hardware but they have proven themselves with their Wiiware releases and their history doing demoscenes. One thing that stands out for me is how they are using 4k-8k texture for Fast Racing Neo and that is an insane amount of texture resolution even for today and you don't see a lot in the Xbone and Ps4 and this game is going to be running at 60fps. add that with the resolution being HD and not sub and using deferred rendering.

There are more to graphics but those alone is technically impossible to do on the Ps3 and 360.

Then you have the leak photo of Sonic Boom showing off Dx11.

#138 Posted by AM-Gamer (5820 posts) -

@ZombeGoast: Thats the problem with the Wii U, it's Gpu and memory are better then the PS3/360 but it has a weaker cpu. To be weaker in any area against a 8 year old console is disappointing.

#139 Posted by ZombeGoast (437 posts) -

@AM-Gamer said:

@ZombeGoast: Thats the problem with the Wii U, it's Gpu and memory are better then the PS3/360 but it has a weaker cpu. To be weaker in any area against a 8 year old console is disappointing.

I wouldn't say weak when its a lot more efficient than the Xenon and Cell and allowing its cores to be used rendering the game instead of wasting them on DSP, OS and I/O. Plus the Jaguar CPU is nothing special either. Its just a 2 4 core module of a entry level notebook. Plus all 3 systems are GPGPU.