Why XboxOne UK Price Reduction isnt a MiddleFinger to Anyone

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#51 Edited by SelfReflect (116 posts) -

@kingtito said:

I'd rather have the MS "F U Fivnger" than Sony's anyday. You know the Sony that told it's early PSj1, PS2 and PS3 adopters to go F themselves after they experienced hardware issues, especially with the PS2. You know the same Sony that gave the good old middle finger to ALL it's early adopters until they got sued.

MS middle finger == price drop after 3 months...cows cry foul

Sony middle finger == early adopters hardware issues go F yourselves we're not fixing anything....cows love Sony for it.

You cows really are a bunch of whiny little bitches complaining about a product you have no intention of buying.

This is too insane

An xbot is going on about playstation hardware issues at launch

HELLO, remember RROD on the 360.

It was the single greatest electronic failure in the history of mankind

And Microsoft didnt even do anything about it until they were FORCED to by the goverment

Microsoft gave every one a middle finger when they KNOWINGLY released faulty hardware upon the millions of RROD VICTIMS....and Micrsoft stuck up their other middle finger at every one when they tried to deny RROD for the longest, UNTIL again...they were FORCED to do something about it by the government

Sony has NEVER done anything half as bad

Along with RROD on the 360, you can add this "price cut" debacle on the xbone to the long list of Microsoft fuck ups at launch

I guarantee you the vast majority would rather buy a Sony console at launch, then buy a Microsoft console at launch

Never mind that Microsoft also tried to butcher consumer rights with their DRM always online schemes. Microsoft commited the WORST crime gaming has ever seen

Microsoft is BAD for gaming. Microsoft needs to be erradacated from the face of the earth. Microsoft truly is corporate SCUM at its most ugly

Anyone who can even still defend Microsoft after all the bad Microsoft has done, is NOT a real gamer.....anyone who is still on Microsoft's team IS AGAINST GAMING and is an enemy of gaming...They are a shill or a delusional blinded psychotic xbox fanboy

When Microsoft gets erradacted from gaming, I hope all its delusional xbots like you perish along with Microsoft....then gaming can go back to the glory that it was with just Sony and Nintendo

#52 Posted by kingtito (4804 posts) -

@kingtito said:

I'd rather have the MS "F U Fivnger" than Sony's anyday. You know the Sony that told it's early PSj1, PS2 and PS3 adopters to go F themselves after they experienced hardware issues, especially with the PS2. You know the same Sony that gave the good old middle finger to ALL it's early adopters until they got sued.

MS middle finger == price drop after 3 months...cows cry foul

Sony middle finger == early adopters hardware issues go F yourselves we're not fixing anything....cows love Sony for it.

You cows really are a bunch of whiny little bitches complaining about a product you have no intention of buying.

This is too insane

An xbot is going on about playstation hardware issues at launch

HELLO, remember RROD on the 360.

It was the single greatest electronic failure in the history of mankind

And Microsoft didnt even do anything about it until they were FORCED to by the goverment

Microsoft gave every one a middle finger when they KNOWINGLY released faulty hardware upon the millions of RROD VICTIMS....and Micrsoft stuck up their other middle finger at every one when they tried to deny RROD for the longest, UNTIL again...they were FORCED to do something about it by the government

Sony has NEVER done anything half as bad

Along with RROD on the 360, you can add this "price cut" debacle on the xbone to the long list of Microsoft fuck ups at launch

I guarantee you the vast majority would rather buy a Sony console at launch, then buy a Microsoft console at launch

Never mind that Microsoft also tried to butcher consumer rights with their DRM always online schemes. Microsoft commited the WORST crime gaming has ever seen

Microsoft is BAD for gaming. Microsoft needs to be erradacated from the face of the earth. Microsoft truly is corporate SCUM at its most ugly

Anyone who can even still defend Microsoft after all the bad Microsoft has done, is NOT a real gamer.....anyone who is still on Microsoft's team IS AGAINST GAMING and is an enemy of gaming...They are a shill or a delusional blinded psychotic xbox fanboy

When Microsoft gets erradacted from gaming, I hope all its delusional xbots like you perish along with Microsoft....then gaming can go back to the glory that it was with just Sony and Nintendo

I guess you didn't remember the DRE issue with the PS2. Maybe you weren't old enough but Sony didn't do anything until they got sued and even then they didn't want to acknowledge a problem. They still blamed the customers.

Show proof that the gov stepped in and made MS give an extended 3 year warranty.

MS did a hell of a lot more than Sony and almost EVERY Sony console had problems. PS1 had power supply issues, PS2 had DRE issues and PS3 had YOLD as well as laser issues. What did Sony do to fix those? Nothing.

You must be 12 if you think Sony never did anything half as bad. Ever heard of a root kit? That's right, Sony installed root kits on customers computers. Perhaps you should STFU when you have NO idea what you're talking about.

A price cut is a bad thing now? Idiot cow is idiot. Never have I ever heard of a price cut being a bad thing. Only in a cows deluded mind would that even come up.

PS3 says hi kid.

Fanboy giberish kid. Nothing but fanboy BS. You'd have to be def, dumb AND blind to believe half the shit you're shoveling.

I'm done with you.

#53 Edited by SelfReflect (116 posts) -

@tormentos said:

@delta3074 said:

More baseless assumptions, the ratio is only 1.5:1 in sony's favour, it's actually really common here in blighty for Game retailers to sell cut price bundles when a massive title comes out, i know, i lived here my whole life, you and the rest of the cow brigade have been spinning something thats quite normal into some sort of sinister desperation,lol

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-01-30-sony-uk-ps4-to-xbox-one-sales-ratio-is-1-5-1

so much for the rumour that the Ps4 was 'killing' the Xbone in sales in the uk, if you think thats 'killing it' with that tiny ratio you are all deluded,lol

So once again you are into full lemming move again.?

Baseless how is baseless a package that should cost 470 quids is been offer for 369 quids,how in gods green earth that is normal?

MS only do those kinds of drops when sales are going horrible wrong,and the original xbox proved that,not only that the xbox 360 re confirm it to,please show me how the xbox 360 3 months after launching in UK was been sold with one of its biggest game for 100 pounds less than the actually price,? Hell the xbox 360 in US took 624 to get its first price drop,compare that to the original xbox which was 6 month.

Gamestop never do such bargains dude,even less including a damn game that is the hit of the moment on say console,it would be like the 360 been sold with halo 3 on early 2006 for 100 pounds less yeah like that will ever happen..

Lets see the PS4 release 1 week after the xbox one,over took it on a single day of sales and have suffer huge shortage all over the world with word from sony it self that every unit been done is getting sold,yeah with better supply the lead would be even bigger,oh and that lead is the one the 360 had on the PS3 but the 360 didn't release the same year as the PS3 in UK,it had 1 year advantage and more than 100 pounds in difference,oh i remember well how vocal you were about the PS3 high price,which is funny because you haven't use the same rule to measure the xbox one which is even more expensive than the PS3 was on 2006.

So yeah even with less time and a huge shortage the xbox one is been out gunned by the PS4,and the price in UK show the desperation retailers have to move those units.

Dyuamnnn

Tormentos just OWNED Delta

Just like old times .

Really missed seeing Tormentos make Delta look foolish. Tormentos pretty much owns Delta's soul.

Glad to see you posting again Tormentos. You are easily one of the best posters here my brother:)

For people who dont know about Delta. Delta is 40-50 years old...yet still acts like a Microsoft keyboard warrior. The man has legit mental issues. When people talk about delusional xbox fanboys, they are talking about "people" like Delta, KingTito, the OP etc

#54 Posted by MonsieurX (29264 posts) -

@cheesie253 said:

I don't really see the problem here. This happens with all products not just consoles.

As the consumer you make the choice of buying a product at the price it carries. If the Xbox one or ps4 drop $100 tomorrow oh well. It's not an fu from them it's my fault for not waiting. All things drop in price. I made the choice to buy my systems day one. I took the risk of there being a better deal in the future.

Its like you Microsoft shills got together and decided this was going to be the offical FUD talking point

This Microsoft shill excuse DOENST CUT IT

Very Rarely has there ever been a price drop on a console that just came out

The xbone just came out, THAT fact alone invalidates all the talking points of the Microsoft shill corporate apologists

The xbone JUST CAME out, and Microsoft "cut the price"

Microsoft is blatantly telling YOU, "hey fuck you. The rare amount of loyal xboners who were actually stupid enough to buy an xbone, you all mean nothing to us. Fuck off. We are getting our ass handed to us in sales by Sony with the PS4 so we need to start getting sales...PRICE DROP" despite the fact the xbone JUST CAME OUT

The fact of the matter is this, people who bought an xbone at launch knew there was eventually going to be a price cut on it, BUT they never knew there would be a price cut 2-3 months after it LAUNCHED. Thats the issue. Thats what shady. Lets this be a lesson, NEVER BUY Microsoft products.

And whats funny is that the xbone is still over priced. Only Microsoft can cut the price of a product and its still over -priced. That just shows you how greedy Microsoft is.

There is one thing I did learn from this thread though. Anyone who even attempted to defend Microsoft in this thread is a Microsoft shill /corporate apologist. They are NO LONGER to be trusted by REAL GAMERS. Real gamers will always prefer playstation

Juarbles alt account?

#55 Edited by SelfReflect (116 posts) -

@kingtito said:

I'd rather have the MS "F U Finger" than Sony's anyday. You know the Sony that told it's early PS1, PS2 and PS3 adopters to go F themselves after they experienced hardware issues, especially with the PS2. You know the same Sony that gave the good old middle finger to ALL it's early adopters until they got sued.

MS middle finger == price drop after 3 months...cows cry foul

Sony middle finger == early adopters hardware issues go F yourselves we're not fixing anything....cows love Sony for it.

You cows really are a bunch of whiny little bitches complaining about a product you have no intention of buying.

To further put things into perspective

You COULD take every single playstation launch (of PS1, PS2, PS3, PS4) and COMBINE the number of all playstation consoles that have been defective....AND THAT TOTAL number would STILL not come within a fraction of the number of just xbox 360's that have RROD'D

Sony>>>>>>>>>Microsoft when it comes to EVERYTHING gaming related

And Sony has NEVER tried to take away GAMERS rights, like Microsoft has

Sony is for the gamer.

Microsoft is against the gamer

you are a delusional xbot shill...

when anyone sides with Microsoft, they make it CLEAR they are against GAMING....because a real gamer would NEVER support a company like Microsoft who tried to take gamers rights away etc

Fuck Microsoft for life. Sony Playstation all the way !!!!

#56 Posted by kingtito (4804 posts) -

@kingtito said:

I'd rather have the MS "F U Finger" than Sony's anyday. You know the Sony that told it's early PS1, PS2 and PS3 adopters to go F themselves after they experienced hardware issues, especially with the PS2. You know the same Sony that gave the good old middle finger to ALL it's early adopters until they got sued.

MS middle finger == price drop after 3 months...cows cry foul

Sony middle finger == early adopters hardware issues go F yourselves we're not fixing anything....cows love Sony for it.

You cows really are a bunch of whiny little bitches complaining about a product you have no intention of buying.

To further put things into perspective

You COULD take every single playstation launch (of PS1, PS2, PS3, PS4) and COMBINE the number of all playstation consoles that have been defective....AND THAT TOTAL number would STILL not come within a fraction of the number of just xbox 360's that have RROD'D

Sony>>>>>>>>>Microsoft when it comes to EVERYTHING gaming related

And Sony has NEVER tried to take away GAMERS rights, like Microsoft has

Sony is for the gamer.

Microsoft is against the gamer

you are a delusional xbot shill...

when anyone sides with Microsoft, they make it CLEAR they are against GAMING....because a real gamer would NEVER support a company like Microsoft who tried to take gamers rights away etc

Fuck Microsoft for life. Sony Playstation all the way !!!!

Yeah yeah yeah no proof and nothing but fanboyish posting.

Mooo someplace else moron.

#57 Posted by MeanLeanBoi (25 posts) -

hahahaha theys cant bees givin dem away lol. when its bees cheap as a 40 you bees letin mes no

#58 Edited by SelfReflect (116 posts) -

@kingtito said:

@selfreflect said:

@kingtito said:

I'd rather have the MS "F U Fivnger" than Sony's anyday. You know the Sony that told it's early PSj1, PS2 and PS3 adopters to go F themselves after they experienced hardware issues, especially with the PS2. You know the same Sony that gave the good old middle finger to ALL it's early adopters until they got sued.

MS middle finger == price drop after 3 months...cows cry foul

Sony middle finger == early adopters hardware issues go F yourselves we're not fixing anything....cows love Sony for it.

You cows really are a bunch of whiny little bitches complaining about a product you have no intention of buying.

This is too insane

An xbot is going on about playstation hardware issues at launch

HELLO, remember RROD on the 360.

It was the single greatest electronic failure in the history of mankind

And Microsoft didnt even do anything about it until they were FORCED to by the goverment

Microsoft gave every one a middle finger when they KNOWINGLY released faulty hardware upon the millions of RROD VICTIMS....and Micrsoft stuck up their other middle finger at every one when they tried to deny RROD for the longest, UNTIL again...they were FORCED to do something about it by the government

Sony has NEVER done anything half as bad

Along with RROD on the 360, you can add this "price cut" debacle on the xbone to the long list of Microsoft fuck ups at launch

I guarantee you the vast majority would rather buy a Sony console at launch, then buy a Microsoft console at launch

Never mind that Microsoft also tried to butcher consumer rights with their DRM always online schemes. Microsoft commited the WORST crime gaming has ever seen

Microsoft is BAD for gaming. Microsoft needs to be erradacated from the face of the earth. Microsoft truly is corporate SCUM at its most ugly

Anyone who can even still defend Microsoft after all the bad Microsoft has done, is NOT a real gamer.....anyone who is still on Microsoft's team IS AGAINST GAMING and is an enemy of gaming...They are a shill or a delusional blinded psychotic xbox fanboy

When Microsoft gets erradacted from gaming, I hope all its delusional xbots like you perish along with Microsoft....then gaming can go back to the glory that it was with just Sony and Nintendo

I guess you didn't remember the DRE issue with the PS2. Maybe you weren't old enough but Sony didn't do anything until they got sued and even then they didn't want to acknowledge a problem. They still blamed the customers.

Show proof that the gov stepped in and made MS give an extended 3 year warranty.

MS did a hell of a lot more than Sony and almost EVERY Sony console had problems. PS1 had power supply issues, PS2 had DRE issues and PS3 had YOLD as well as laser issues. What did Sony do to fix those? Nothing.

You must be 12 if you think Sony never did anything half as bad. Ever heard of a root kit? That's right, Sony installed root kits on customers computers. Perhaps you should STFU when you have NO idea what you're talking about.

A price cut is a bad thing now? Idiot cow is idiot. Never have I ever heard of a price cut being a bad thing. Only in a cows deluded mind would that even come up.

PS3 says hi kid.

Fanboy giberish kid. Nothing but fanboy BS. You'd have to be def, dumb AND blind to believe half the shit you're shoveling.

I'm done with you.

PS2 DRE issues dont even compare to the RROD EPIDEMIC on the 360

Provide proof that more PS2's had DRE issues, then 360's had RROD

You simply wont be able to because the 360 had the highest failure rate of any past console ever.

NOTHING changes that reality, and no gaming console Sony has ever released comes close to RROD

Also show me a legit source on Sony getting sued for DRE issues. I can however show you millions of people who wanted to sue Microsoft for RROD

Microsoft was FORCED into giving away warrenties, to prevent them from getting sued to hell and back

IF DRE were as big of an issue as RROD was, Sony wouldve done the same but better while reacting quicker. It took Microsoft 3 YEARS to ever do anything about RROD. Sony wouldve handled it much better given precedent

I would have MUCH RATHER dealt with PS2 DRE issues, then RROD too

Give me DRE over RROD any day.

Microsoft also never once apologised for RROD, and instead tried to put the blame on consumers when it was Microsoft who KNOWINGLY released faulty hardware upon the millions of RROS VICTIMS. It was just despicable.

RROD will forever be one of gaming's worst blunders, along with Microsoft trying to take away gamers rights.

Suprise Microsoft is responsible for both blunders. Given REALITY, Microsoft IS BY FAR THE WORST of the big 3. I will explain in a little.

Its already become so apparent though. You are a paid Microsoft SHILL. That forever renders your shill "opinions" irrelavant. Im still going to refute each and ever one of your off base "points" so other people can see it. My only concern is that my IQ drops points after reading your garbage

There is shady, and then THERE is Microsoft level of shady. Microsoft is beyond shady and is the WORST of the big 3 in gaming by far.

Microsoft is the most anti consumer of the bunch and the fact they were willing to go as far as they did with their extreme anti consumer xbone policies in the first place proves it.

Pathetic to bring up a decade old incident of NON gaming Sony installing malware on computer with music CDs

Micorsoft doing this:

http://m.nydailynews.com/1.1396917

Is soo much worse.

Exerts from the article:

"Microsoft worked with the spy agency to ensure analysts had access to its Outlook email service"

"And when Microsoft bought the popular chat service Skype, the company helped the NSA ensure it could monitor both audio and video conversations."

NOW THAT^ is some truly despicable shit. No comparison. Microsoft is despicable. Sony has NEVER DONE anything like that, ever before.

The fact Microsoft is THE BIGGEST supporter of PRISM MEANS Microsoft is 1 of the most shady American corps out there

Sony is NO WHERE seen on that list of compainies who are on board with PRISM. Sony could never be as bad as Microsoft, even if they tried.

Then there is the fact that Microsoft was even FOUND guilty of ANTI TRUST LAWS

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft_Corporation

Sony has NEVER been CONVICTED of ANTI TRUST LAWS. Microsoft has.

The melware from CDs or Sony CDs seems almost lovely now compared to what Microsoft has done lol.

I just gave you multiple examples of Microsoft doing WORSE, you have NOT provided any proof

Not to mention ALL the widely reported problems with Microsoft Windows. The fact Windows is a haven for MELWARE and viruses etc SO to bring up melware on OLD Sony CDs is laughable.

Microsoft has a blatant history of being shady and anti-consumer. Proven again and again.To deny it youre simply not living in reality.

In gaming, which is what was being talking about in the first place, Sony has NEVER done anything a fraction as bad as:

-Microsoft trying to get away with DRM/always online schemes.

-Microsoft enforcing a mandatory kinect spy cam etc

And i can keep going on and on

Sony has always been pro gamer and pro consumer from the start. Their actions prove so

#59 Edited by lamprey263 (22873 posts) -

That's nothing, I paid $600 for a PS3 with a 60GB HDD, shit launch games, no DS3, and no component/HDMI cables.

#60 Posted by SelfReflect (116 posts) -

@kingtito said:

@selfreflect said:

@kingtito said:

I'd rather have the MS "F U Fivnger" than Sony's anyday. You know the Sony that told it's early PSj1, PS2 and PS3 adopters to go F themselves after they experienced hardware issues, especially with the PS2. You know the same Sony that gave the good old middle finger to ALL it's early adopters until they got sued.

MS middle finger == price drop after 3 months...cows cry foul

Sony middle finger == early adopters hardware issues go F yourselves we're not fixing anything....cows love Sony for it.

You cows really are a bunch of whiny little bitches complaining about a product you have no intention of buying.

This is too insane

An xbot is going on about playstation hardware issues at launch

HELLO, remember RROD on the 360.

It was the single greatest electronic failure in the history of mankind

And Microsoft didnt even do anything about it until they were FORCED to by the goverment

Microsoft gave every one a middle finger when they KNOWINGLY released faulty hardware upon the millions of RROD VICTIMS....and Micrsoft stuck up their other middle finger at every one when they tried to deny RROD for the longest, UNTIL again...they were FORCED to do something about it by the government

Sony has NEVER done anything half as bad

Along with RROD on the 360, you can add this "price cut" debacle on the xbone to the long list of Microsoft fuck ups at launch

I guarantee you the vast majority would rather buy a Sony console at launch, then buy a Microsoft console at launch

Never mind that Microsoft also tried to butcher consumer rights with their DRM always online schemes. Microsoft commited the WORST crime gaming has ever seen

Microsoft is BAD for gaming. Microsoft needs to be erradacated from the face of the earth. Microsoft truly is corporate SCUM at its most ugly

Anyone who can even still defend Microsoft after all the bad Microsoft has done, is NOT a real gamer.....anyone who is still on Microsoft's team IS AGAINST GAMING and is an enemy of gaming...They are a shill or a delusional blinded psychotic xbox fanboy

When Microsoft gets erradacted from gaming, I hope all its delusional xbots like you perish along with Microsoft....then gaming can go back to the glory that it was with just Sony and Nintendo

I guess you didn't remember the DRE issue with the PS2. Maybe you weren't old enough but Sony didn't do anything until they got sued and even then they didn't want to acknowledge a problem. They still blamed the customers.

Show proof that the gov stepped in and made MS give an extended 3 year warranty.

MS did a hell of a lot more than Sony and almost EVERY Sony console had problems. PS1 had power supply issues, PS2 had DRE issues and PS3 had YOLD as well as laser issues. What did Sony do to fix those? Nothing.

You must be 12 if you think Sony never did anything half as bad. Ever heard of a root kit? That's right, Sony installed root kits on customers computers. Perhaps you should STFU when you have NO idea what you're talking about.

A price cut is a bad thing now? Idiot cow is idiot. Never have I ever heard of a price cut being a bad thing. Only in a cows deluded mind would that even come up.

PS3 says hi kid.

Fanboy giberish kid. Nothing but fanboy BS. You'd have to be def, dumb AND blind to believe half the shit you're shoveling.

I'm done with you.

In regards to the PS3's price:

The highest PS3 model cost 600$ and it came with free wi-fi built in and a hard drive. Plus online was free

To get a 360 with a hard drive, wi-fi, and the cost of xbox live, it COST more then a PS3 up front...and in the long run the 360 would end up costing a fortune more then a PS3

PS3 still had more bang for your buck value than a 360,

plus the PS3 had blue ray and was capable of better graphics

The fact that the 360 cost more to get it up and running with features that came free on PS3 (wi-fi, hard drive, online) while having worse tech and an old DVD drive was just despeciable. Even back then Micorsoft was showing off their greed and nickle and diming nature

Its just become more appearent to casual gamers with the xbone

Just like how its foolish to mention insignificant hardware problems with playstation consoles at launch WHEN RROD is the greatest electronic failure in mankind

Ita foolish to bring up the PS3's price when talking about the xbone's price

The PS3 was stronger then the 360, contained more long term value, and had blue ray

The xbone is 50% weaker then a PS4, has NO redeeming gaming qualities, comes with a mandatory kinect spy cam and YET is still 500$ (100$ more then a PS4 which is better in every way)

If you even scale for inflation, the xbone COSTS more today then a PS3 cost in 2006

And YET the xbone is a piece of shit, under powered, kinect spying cable box

The PS3 at least was more powerful then the competitor of its time while having cutting edge tech like blue ray

There was no console more powerful then a PS3

There is a console that is more then 50% more powerful then a xbone while being 100$ cheaper (the PS4)

So again YOU FAIL with your awful comparisons you delusional xbot

The xbone really blows the lid off on how anti-consumer / anti-gamer Microsoft truly is and always has been

For every one bad" thing you claim Sony has done, Microsoft has done about 100 things each much WORSE

#61 Edited by kingtito (4804 posts) -

@kingtito said:

@selfreflect said:

@kingtito said:

I'd rather have the MS "F U Fivnger" than Sony's anyday. You know the Sony that told it's early PSj1, PS2 and PS3 adopters to go F themselves after they experienced hardware issues, especially with the PS2. You know the same Sony that gave the good old middle finger to ALL it's early adopters until they got sued.

MS middle finger == price drop after 3 months...cows cry foul

Sony middle finger == early adopters hardware issues go F yourselves we're not fixing anything....cows love Sony for it.

You cows really are a bunch of whiny little bitches complaining about a product you have no intention of buying.

This is too insane

An xbot is going on about playstation hardware issues at launch

HELLO, remember RROD on the 360.

It was the single greatest electronic failure in the history of mankind

And Microsoft didnt even do anything about it until they were FORCED to by the goverment

Microsoft gave every one a middle finger when they KNOWINGLY released faulty hardware upon the millions of RROD VICTIMS....and Micrsoft stuck up their other middle finger at every one when they tried to deny RROD for the longest, UNTIL again...they were FORCED to do something about it by the government

Sony has NEVER done anything half as bad

Along with RROD on the 360, you can add this "price cut" debacle on the xbone to the long list of Microsoft fuck ups at launch

I guarantee you the vast majority would rather buy a Sony console at launch, then buy a Microsoft console at launch

Never mind that Microsoft also tried to butcher consumer rights with their DRM always online schemes. Microsoft commited the WORST crime gaming has ever seen

Microsoft is BAD for gaming. Microsoft needs to be erradacated from the face of the earth. Microsoft truly is corporate SCUM at its most ugly

Anyone who can even still defend Microsoft after all the bad Microsoft has done, is NOT a real gamer.....anyone who is still on Microsoft's team IS AGAINST GAMING and is an enemy of gaming...They are a shill or a delusional blinded psychotic xbox fanboy

When Microsoft gets erradacted from gaming, I hope all its delusional xbots like you perish along with Microsoft....then gaming can go back to the glory that it was with just Sony and Nintendo

I guess you didn't remember the DRE issue with the PS2. Maybe you weren't old enough but Sony didn't do anything until they got sued and even then they didn't want to acknowledge a problem. They still blamed the customers.

Show proof that the gov stepped in and made MS give an extended 3 year warranty.

MS did a hell of a lot more than Sony and almost EVERY Sony console had problems. PS1 had power supply issues, PS2 had DRE issues and PS3 had YOLD as well as laser issues. What did Sony do to fix those? Nothing.

You must be 12 if you think Sony never did anything half as bad. Ever heard of a root kit? That's right, Sony installed root kits on customers computers. Perhaps you should STFU when you have NO idea what you're talking about.

A price cut is a bad thing now? Idiot cow is idiot. Never have I ever heard of a price cut being a bad thing. Only in a cows deluded mind would that even come up.

PS3 says hi kid.

Fanboy giberish kid. Nothing but fanboy BS. You'd have to be def, dumb AND blind to believe half the shit you're shoveling.

I'm done with you.

PS2 DRE issues dont even compare to the RROD EPIDEMIC on the 360

Provide proof that more PS2's had DRE issues, then 360's had RROD

Yeah, you wont be able to because the 360 had the highest failure rate of any past console ever.

NOTHING changes that reality, and nothing Sony has released comes close

Also show me a legit source on Sony getting sued for DRE issues. I can however show you millions of people who wanted to sue Microsoft for RROD

Microsoft was FORCED into giving away warrenties, to prevent them from getting sued to hell and back

IF DRE were as big of an issue as RROD was, Sony wouldve done the same but better while reacting quicker. It took Micorosoft 3 YEARS to ever do anything about RROD. Sony wouldve handled it much better, given precedent

I would have MUCH RATHER dealt with PS2 DRE issues, then RROD too

Give me DRE over RROD any day.

Microsoft also never once apologised for RROD, and instead tried to put the blame on consumers when it was Microsoft who KNOWINGLY released faulty hardware upon the millions of RROS VICTIMS. It was just despicable.

RROD will forever be one of gaming's worst blunders, along with Microsoft trying to take away gamers rights.

Suprise Microsoft is responsible for doing both. Given REALITY, Microsoft IS BY FAR THE WORST of the big 3. I will explain in a little.

Its already become so apparent though. You are a paid Microsoft SHILL. That forever renders your shill "opinions" irrelavant. Im still going to refute each and ever one of your off base "points" so other people can see it. My only concern is that my IQ drops points after reading your garbage

There is shady, and then THERE is Microsoft level of shady. Microsoft is beyond shady and is the WORST of the big 3 in gaming by far.

Microsoft is the most anti consumer of the bunch and the fact they were willing to go as far as they did with their extreme anti consumer xbone policies in the first place proves it.

Pathetic to bring up a decade old incident of Non gaming Sony installing malware on computer with music CDs

Micorsoft doing this:

http://m.nydailynews.com/1.1396917

Is soo much worse.

Exerts from the article:

"Microsoft worked with the spy agency to ensure analysts had access to its Outlook email service"

"And when Microsoft bought the popular chat service Skype, the company helped the NSA ensure it could monitor both audio and video conversations."

.

NOW THAT^ is some truly despicable shit. No comparison. Microsoft is despicable. Sony has NEVER DONE anything like that, ever before.

The fact Microsoft is THE BIGGEST supporter of PRISM MEANS Microsoft is 1 of the most shady American corps out there

Sony is NO WHERE seen on that list of compainies who are on board with PRISM. Sony could never be as bad as Microsoft, even if they tried.

Then there is the fact that Microsoft was even FOUND guilty of ANTI TRUST LAWS

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft_Corporation

Sony has NEVER been CONVICTED of ANTI TRUST LAWS. Microsoft has.

The melware from CDs or Sony CDs seems almost lovely now compared to what Microsoft has done lol.

I just gave you multiple examples of Microsoft doing WORSE, you have NOT provided any proof

Not to mention ALL the widely reported problems with Microsoft Windows. The fact Windows is a haven for MELWARE and viruses etc SO to bring up melware on OLD Sony CDs is laughable.

Microsoft has a blatant history of being shady and anti-consumer. Proven again and again.To deny it youre simply not living in reality.

In gaming, which is what was being talking about in the first place, Sony has NEVER done anything a fraction as bad as:

-Microsoft trying to get away with DRM/always online schemes.

-Microsoft enforcing a mandatory kinect spy cam etc

And i can keep going on and on

Sony has always been pro gamer and pro consumer from the start. Their actions prove so

In regards to the PS3's price:

The highest PS3 model cost 600$ and it came with free wi-fi built in and a hard drive. Plus online was free

To get a 360 with a hard drive, wi-fi, and the cost of xbox live, it COST more then a PS3 up front...and in the long run the 360 would end up costing a fortune more then a PS3

PS3 still had more bang for your buck value than a 360,

plus the PS3 had blue ray and was capable of better graphics

The fact that the 360 cost more to get it up and running with features that came free on PS3 (wi-fi, hard drive, online) while having worse tech and an old DVD drive was just despeciable. Even back then Micorsoft was showing off their greed and nickle and diming nature

Its just become more appearent to casual gamers with the xbone

Just like how its foolish to mention insignificant hardware problems with playstation consoles at launch WHEN RROD is the greatest electronic failure in mankind

Ita foolish to bring up the PS3's price when talking about the xbone's price

The PS3 was stronger then the 360, contained more long term value, and had blue ray

The xbone is 50% weaker then a PS4, has NO redeeming gaming qualities, comes with a mandatory kinect spy cam and YET is still 500$ (100$ more then a PS4 which is better in every way)

If you even scale for inflation, the xbone COSTS more today then a PS3 cost in 2006

And YET the xbone is a piece of shit, under powered, kinect spying cable box

The PS3 at least was more powerful then the competitor of its time while having cutting edge tech like blue ray

There was no console more powerful then a PS3

There is a console that is more then 50% more powerful then a xbone while being 100$ cheaper (the PS4)

So again YOU FAIL with your awful comparisons you delusional xbot

The xbone really blows the lid off on how anti-consumer / anti-gamer Microsoft truly is and always has been

Anything "bad" you claim Sony has done, Microsoft has done about 100 things each much WORSE

Stupid blind moronic fanboy confirmed. So lame that you have to hide behind an alt.

Like I said, I'm done with you. All you've done was shown how delusional you are. Keep hiding cow go moooo to someone that cares what you think.

#62 Edited by inb4uall (5297 posts) -

Xbone is doomed and Microsoft is scared.

#63 Edited by SelfReflect (116 posts) -

@lamprey263 said:

That's nothing, I paid $600 for a PS3 with a 60GB HDD, shit launch games, no DS3, and no component/HDMI cables.

Youre completely missing the point

Sony didnt drop the price of the PS3 just 3 months after its launch, telling early adapoters "fuck you"

Microsoft DID.

Microsoft "cut the price" of the xbone just 3 months after its launch, telling its early adaptors "fuck you"

Also, the PS3, still contained more long term value then a xbox 360, had free online, was more powerful, and came with better tech like blue ray etc

You were getting what you paid for with a PS3

Where as the xbone is an under-powered, piece of shit that comes with a mandatory kinect spy cam and a secondary focus on gaming

Microsoft is commiting a crime charging as much as they are for an xbone, considering what the xbone is

The PS4 is more then 50% more powerful while being 100$ cheaper. PSN+ is 10$ less then XBL while offering far more value. The PS4 LITERALLY does everything better then the xbone for much less, in every critetia

There was no console that destroyed a PS3, the way a PS4 UTTERLY DESTROYS an xbone while to boot costing much less (100$ less to be exact)

#64 Posted by getyeryayasout (7082 posts) -

I don't know man, it's not that big a deal, but to me there's a difference between a price cut after 12-18 months and a price cut after just 3 months. If I'm an early adopter I would be disappointed. Throwing in Titanfall, one of the X1's biggest upcoming games would just be salt in the wound, even if MS isn't wrong for making such a move.

#65 Posted by lamprey263 (22873 posts) -

@lamprey263 said:

That's nothing, I paid $600 for a PS3 with a 60GB HDD, shit launch games, no DS3, and no component/HDMI cables.

Youre completely missing the point

Sony didnt drop the price of the PS3 just 3 months after its launch, telling early adapoters "fuck you"

Microsoft DID.

Microsoft "cut the price" of the xbone just 3 months after its launch, telling its early adaptors "fuck you"

Also, the PS3, still contained more long term value then a xbox 360, had free online, was more powerful, and came with better tech like blue ray etc

You were getting what you paid for with a PS3

Where as the xbone is an under-powered, piece of shit that comes with a mandatory kinect spy cam and a secondary focus on gaming

Microsoft is commiting a crime charging as much as they are for an xbone, considering what the xbone is

The PS4 is more then 50% more powerful while being 100$ cheaper. PSN+ is 10$ less then XBL while offering far more value. The PS4 LITERALLY does everything better then the xbone for much less, in every critetia

There was no console that destroyed a PS3, the way a PS4 UTTERLY DESTROYS an xbone while to boot costing much less (100$ less to be exact)

wow, you fired every fanboy talking point in one post

#66 Posted by sts106mat (18895 posts) -

@selfreflect said:

@lamprey263 said:

That's nothing, I paid $600 for a PS3 with a 60GB HDD, shit launch games, no DS3, and no component/HDMI cables.

Youre completely missing the point

Sony didnt drop the price of the PS3 just 3 months after its launch, telling early adapoters "fuck you"

Microsoft DID.

Microsoft "cut the price" of the xbone just 3 months after its launch, telling its early adaptors "fuck you"

Also, the PS3, still contained more long term value then a xbox 360, had free online, was more powerful, and came with better tech like blue ray etc

You were getting what you paid for with a PS3

Where as the xbone is an under-powered, piece of shit that comes with a mandatory kinect spy cam and a secondary focus on gaming

Microsoft is commiting a crime charging as much as they are for an xbone, considering what the xbone is

The PS4 is more then 50% more powerful while being 100$ cheaper. PSN+ is 10$ less then XBL while offering far more value. The PS4 LITERALLY does everything better then the xbone for much less, in every critetia

There was no console that destroyed a PS3, the way a PS4 UTTERLY DESTROYS an xbone while to boot costing much less (100$ less to be exact)

wow, you fired every fanboy talking point in one post

that is clearly yet another brofists/hardmicro alt account.....nothing else needs to be said.

#67 Posted by bezza2011 (2321 posts) -

@bezza2011 said:

@always_explicit said:

@bezza2011 said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:
@bezza2011 said:

Are you having a laugh?????

how the hell isn't it a middle finger to the people who bought a console in December or january or even last week, not only did they only get an Xbox One for their money, now they have to see a £30 reduction and a AAA game thrown in, I mean Fifa and Forza 5 was only given out for the first few weeks of the console not forever, and Titanfall beats both of them games when it comes to AAA games, not only that but what about the adopters who bought just last week.

I would be absolutely hecked off at MS for doing this, it isn't literally a £30 reduction,it's £30 plus a £50 game??????

But this just proves how desperate MS is right now, and those ratios of PS4 to X1 were correct and now it's in a desperate bid to get sells. but something tells me it still wont outsell the PS4. last ditched attempt to get sells,

I don't think i have seen anything like this before in any system launch it honestly must be bad.

Most got it in a pre-order, it was sold out before Chistmas. And you can STILL get a Fifa Edition console for launch price, which is official because it has a DL code instead of a physical copy, just like the Day One Edition.

There are always going to be people who buy a console JUST before a price drop, that's nothing to do with the people who bought it at launch and in fact many like Amazon unofficially sell it at £400 standard.

I think the whole point is that sales dramatically slowed after Christmas.

And we don't know how good Titanfall will be. Is it better or more important than Fifa 14? Absolutely no chance in hell in the UK, in sales and quality. It might have more of a buzz, but Fifa doesn't need that, it just sells and has a massive European following. Is it better than Forza 5, highly unlikely.

I completely agree with you on Fifa, not Forza 5 I've seen that quality and that was rubbish 14 tracks, xbox original backdrops, no weather, i do see your point titanfall online only.

But your right they need a price drop to compete, but i still think it's a middle finger i mean this has only just come out this news, it's not like they announced it for a later date and it's been 3 months since launch lol thats bad very bad, i've never seen anything drop in price that quite, here's hoping it drops to £99 and then i may buy it but until that day o and seriously i need a remodeled version because that thing is to big and for what it does or doesn't do well is not worth my time or money at this point, but fingers cross price drop by end of the year to a more sensible price for what it offers.

Its a tiny price drop bundled with a highly anticipated game to boost sales. How is this "very bad".

Its very good for consumers

very good for MS

very good for current XBOX owning community to see that community grow in size.

The sort of people who paid £429...maybe more...to own a next gen console this early in the gen are not the sort of people who are going to get angry about a £30 quid price dropped bundle.

Price drops are simply an inevitability...the sort of people that get "angry" about this sort of thing must get angry often...because its how life works.

No what is going to make them angry is the fact, some probably bought an Xbox One in mind to play Titanfall and then 2weeks before it comes out Microsoft decide to drop the price by £30 and include Titanfall for free??

Seriously that would pee me off if i'd bought one last month thinking about it. In the UK Xbox One is being out sold by 6-1 this a massive loss for them and this is desperation to get sells back, But worse they seem to miss understand what Exclusive is and most people can get titanfall on there PC i know thats where i'll be playing it, and the worst of it is, this is only Titanfall 1, this is more like a beta and just wait for Titanfall 2 which of course is going to be wait for it, a multiplatform game because respawn want this to happen for the money and EA will do anything to get more money, so Titanfall in the long run means nothing, and this just proves my theory of how Microsoft think they honestly think short term and not long term with there exclusive, look at Dead Rising no doubt that the next one or even this one will come to the PS4 by the end of the year, and then what, all they seem to care about truely is halo, gears and fable and forza thats there sauce. good luck i say but i don't think anyone really cares that much. i mean when is the other countries even going to get xbox one lol

Isn't that a separate issue than the accusation that MS is giving the middle finger to early adopters. Because that could have happened at any point in the year.

Plus I don't really see anyone risking X1 amount of money just for Titanfall. It's unproven, NO ONE knows if it's going to be any good as a full product. Someone would have to be an absolute idiot to buy a console at launch for a new upcoming ip that might be good. Especially since they could just get it for the PC or X360.

there are many idiots in this world who would do such a thing, I mean how many people opted for a PS3 once they show the last guardian there is loads.

I'm just saying I'd be peed off to find that a week after I bought a Xbox One with no free game that a week later they announce a real early price cut with a full retail priced game, the real question is, is this going to be Microsofts answer to everything, throw a free game in when things get bad??

#68 Edited by HalcyonScarlet (3974 posts) -

@HalcyonScarlet said:

@bezza2011 said:

@always_explicit said:

@bezza2011 said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:
@bezza2011 said:

Are you having a laugh?????

how the hell isn't it a middle finger to the people who bought a console in December or january or even last week, not only did they only get an Xbox One for their money, now they have to see a £30 reduction and a AAA game thrown in, I mean Fifa and Forza 5 was only given out for the first few weeks of the console not forever, and Titanfall beats both of them games when it comes to AAA games, not only that but what about the adopters who bought just last week.

I would be absolutely hecked off at MS for doing this, it isn't literally a £30 reduction,it's £30 plus a £50 game??????

But this just proves how desperate MS is right now, and those ratios of PS4 to X1 were correct and now it's in a desperate bid to get sells. but something tells me it still wont outsell the PS4. last ditched attempt to get sells,

I don't think i have seen anything like this before in any system launch it honestly must be bad.

Most got it in a pre-order, it was sold out before Chistmas. And you can STILL get a Fifa Edition console for launch price, which is official because it has a DL code instead of a physical copy, just like the Day One Edition.

There are always going to be people who buy a console JUST before a price drop, that's nothing to do with the people who bought it at launch and in fact many like Amazon unofficially sell it at £400 standard.

I think the whole point is that sales dramatically slowed after Christmas.

And we don't know how good Titanfall will be. Is it better or more important than Fifa 14? Absolutely no chance in hell in the UK, in sales and quality. It might have more of a buzz, but Fifa doesn't need that, it just sells and has a massive European following. Is it better than Forza 5, highly unlikely.

I completely agree with you on Fifa, not Forza 5 I've seen that quality and that was rubbish 14 tracks, xbox original backdrops, no weather, i do see your point titanfall online only.

But your right they need a price drop to compete, but i still think it's a middle finger i mean this has only just come out this news, it's not like they announced it for a later date and it's been 3 months since launch lol thats bad very bad, i've never seen anything drop in price that quite, here's hoping it drops to £99 and then i may buy it but until that day o and seriously i need a remodeled version because that thing is to big and for what it does or doesn't do well is not worth my time or money at this point, but fingers cross price drop by end of the year to a more sensible price for what it offers.

Its a tiny price drop bundled with a highly anticipated game to boost sales. How is this "very bad".

Its very good for consumers

very good for MS

very good for current XBOX owning community to see that community grow in size.

The sort of people who paid £429...maybe more...to own a next gen console this early in the gen are not the sort of people who are going to get angry about a £30 quid price dropped bundle.

Price drops are simply an inevitability...the sort of people that get "angry" about this sort of thing must get angry often...because its how life works.

No what is going to make them angry is the fact, some probably bought an Xbox One in mind to play Titanfall and then 2weeks before it comes out Microsoft decide to drop the price by £30 and include Titanfall for free??

Seriously that would pee me off if i'd bought one last month thinking about it. In the UK Xbox One is being out sold by 6-1 this a massive loss for them and this is desperation to get sells back, But worse they seem to miss understand what Exclusive is and most people can get titanfall on there PC i know thats where i'll be playing it, and the worst of it is, this is only Titanfall 1, this is more like a beta and just wait for Titanfall 2 which of course is going to be wait for it, a multiplatform game because respawn want this to happen for the money and EA will do anything to get more money, so Titanfall in the long run means nothing, and this just proves my theory of how Microsoft think they honestly think short term and not long term with there exclusive, look at Dead Rising no doubt that the next one or even this one will come to the PS4 by the end of the year, and then what, all they seem to care about truely is halo, gears and fable and forza thats there sauce. good luck i say but i don't think anyone really cares that much. i mean when is the other countries even going to get xbox one lol

Isn't that a separate issue than the accusation that MS is giving the middle finger to early adopters. Because that could have happened at any point in the year.

Plus I don't really see anyone risking X1 amount of money just for Titanfall. It's unproven, NO ONE knows if it's going to be any good as a full product. Someone would have to be an absolute idiot to buy a console at launch for a new upcoming ip that might be good. Especially since they could just get it for the PC or X360.

there are many idiots in this world who would do such a thing, I mean how many people opted for a PS3 once they show the last guardian there is loads.

I'm just saying I'd be peed off to find that a week after I bought a Xbox One with no free game that a week later they announce a real early price cut with a full retail priced game, the real question is, is this going to be Microsofts answer to everything, throw a free game in when things get bad??

Ah, I see your point. But in that case, I think Last Gaudian was from a proven devloper (guys behind ICO, no?) and Sony promoted it like it was somewhat imminent. I may have considered doing the same if I was a fan of their last work.

I think MS are using free games because right now given the expense and the threat from the competition. I don't thiink they always will once the price goes down to under £300. As it is this is a limited time offer.

I predict there'll be another drop around October And the price will be somewhere between £350 and £375.

#69 Edited by bezza2011 (2321 posts) -

@bezza2011 said:

@HalcyonScarlet said:

@bezza2011 said:

@always_explicit said:

@bezza2011 said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:
@bezza2011 said:

Are you having a laugh?????

how the hell isn't it a middle finger to the people who bought a console in December or january or even last week, not only did they only get an Xbox One for their money, now they have to see a £30 reduction and a AAA game thrown in, I mean Fifa and Forza 5 was only given out for the first few weeks of the console not forever, and Titanfall beats both of them games when it comes to AAA games, not only that but what about the adopters who bought just last week.

I would be absolutely hecked off at MS for doing this, it isn't literally a £30 reduction,it's £30 plus a £50 game??????

But this just proves how desperate MS is right now, and those ratios of PS4 to X1 were correct and now it's in a desperate bid to get sells. but something tells me it still wont outsell the PS4. last ditched attempt to get sells,

I don't think i have seen anything like this before in any system launch it honestly must be bad.

Most got it in a pre-order, it was sold out before Chistmas. And you can STILL get a Fifa Edition console for launch price, which is official because it has a DL code instead of a physical copy, just like the Day One Edition.

There are always going to be people who buy a console JUST before a price drop, that's nothing to do with the people who bought it at launch and in fact many like Amazon unofficially sell it at £400 standard.

I think the whole point is that sales dramatically slowed after Christmas.

And we don't know how good Titanfall will be. Is it better or more important than Fifa 14? Absolutely no chance in hell in the UK, in sales and quality. It might have more of a buzz, but Fifa doesn't need that, it just sells and has a massive European following. Is it better than Forza 5, highly unlikely.

I completely agree with you on Fifa, not Forza 5 I've seen that quality and that was rubbish 14 tracks, xbox original backdrops, no weather, i do see your point titanfall online only.

But your right they need a price drop to compete, but i still think it's a middle finger i mean this has only just come out this news, it's not like they announced it for a later date and it's been 3 months since launch lol thats bad very bad, i've never seen anything drop in price that quite, here's hoping it drops to £99 and then i may buy it but until that day o and seriously i need a remodeled version because that thing is to big and for what it does or doesn't do well is not worth my time or money at this point, but fingers cross price drop by end of the year to a more sensible price for what it offers.

Its a tiny price drop bundled with a highly anticipated game to boost sales. How is this "very bad".

Its very good for consumers

very good for MS

very good for current XBOX owning community to see that community grow in size.

The sort of people who paid £429...maybe more...to own a next gen console this early in the gen are not the sort of people who are going to get angry about a £30 quid price dropped bundle.

Price drops are simply an inevitability...the sort of people that get "angry" about this sort of thing must get angry often...because its how life works.

No what is going to make them angry is the fact, some probably bought an Xbox One in mind to play Titanfall and then 2weeks before it comes out Microsoft decide to drop the price by £30 and include Titanfall for free??

Seriously that would pee me off if i'd bought one last month thinking about it. In the UK Xbox One is being out sold by 6-1 this a massive loss for them and this is desperation to get sells back, But worse they seem to miss understand what Exclusive is and most people can get titanfall on there PC i know thats where i'll be playing it, and the worst of it is, this is only Titanfall 1, this is more like a beta and just wait for Titanfall 2 which of course is going to be wait for it, a multiplatform game because respawn want this to happen for the money and EA will do anything to get more money, so Titanfall in the long run means nothing, and this just proves my theory of how Microsoft think they honestly think short term and not long term with there exclusive, look at Dead Rising no doubt that the next one or even this one will come to the PS4 by the end of the year, and then what, all they seem to care about truely is halo, gears and fable and forza thats there sauce. good luck i say but i don't think anyone really cares that much. i mean when is the other countries even going to get xbox one lol

Isn't that a separate issue than the accusation that MS is giving the middle finger to early adopters. Because that could have happened at any point in the year.

Plus I don't really see anyone risking X1 amount of money just for Titanfall. It's unproven, NO ONE knows if it's going to be any good as a full product. Someone would have to be an absolute idiot to buy a console at launch for a new upcoming ip that might be good. Especially since they could just get it for the PC or X360.

there are many idiots in this world who would do such a thing, I mean how many people opted for a PS3 once they show the last guardian there is loads.

I'm just saying I'd be peed off to find that a week after I bought a Xbox One with no free game that a week later they announce a real early price cut with a full retail priced game, the real question is, is this going to be Microsofts answer to everything, throw a free game in when things get bad??

Ah, I see your point. But in that case, I think Last Gaudian was from a proven devloper (guys behind ICO, no?) and Sony promoted it like it was somewhat imminent. I may have considered doing the same if I was a fan of their last work.

I think MS are using free games because right now given the expense and the threat from the competition. I don't thiink they always will once the price goes down to under £300. As it is this is a limited time offer.

I predict there'll be another drop around October And the price will be somewhere between £350 and £375.

I'll get an Xbox One once the price is down to around £150-£199, I mean for the foreseeable future there is only titanfall and i'm not one for first person shooters, so for me PS4 with the multiplats being all the talk from now until E3 it seems then the PS4 was the best choice for me anyway.

The biggest middle finger to gamers who buy into the Xbox One is the Kinect I mean if they don't make the games for it, then everyone has just been done lol, and except from Kinect Sports there ain't much else on the horizon