Why was Playstation Allstars such a commercial failure?

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#1 Posted by SonyNintendoFan (527 posts) -

If Nintendo can make a brawler with their first and some third party characters, and be successful, why didn't SONY have the same success? They have a huge selection of unique first party characters, and the third party characters that they managed to acquire are really cool. Dante, Raiden, Issac, really cool ones.

What did SuperBot do so wrong that SONY cut ties with them?

#2 Posted by DropsofJupiter (1424 posts) -

If Nintendo can make a brawler with their first and some third party characters, and be successful, why didn't SONY have the same success? They have a huge selection of unique first party characters, and the third party characters that they managed to acquire are really cool. Dante, Raiden, Issac, really cool ones.

What did SuperBot do so wrong that SONY cut ties with them?

SonyNintendoFan
Because Superbot and Sony missed the point of what makes Super Smash Bros. so good.
#3 Posted by MLBknights58 (5015 posts) -

Made a bad game?  

#4 Posted by SuperNovaftw (2636 posts) -

Why is your troll thread such a commercial failure?

#5 Posted by OreoMilkshake (12728 posts) -
Cows don't buy games.
#6 Posted by blackace (20289 posts) -
[QUOTE="SonyNintendoFan"]

If Nintendo can make a brawler with their first and some third party characters, and be successful, why didn't SONY have the same success? They have a huge selection of unique first party characters, and the third party characters that they managed to acquire are really cool. Dante, Raiden, Issac, really cool ones.

What did SuperBot do so wrong that SONY cut ties with them?

DropsofJupiter
Because Superbot and Sony missed the point of what makes Super Smash Bros. so good.

What he said. SuperBot didn't balance the game correctly and used characters that didn't even belong. Why is PaRappa The Rappa in this game? He doesn't fight. The game looked tedious and boring when they demoed it and I knew immediately it was going to fail. Of course every Cow thought it was the best thing since sliced bread. Some even thought it was better then SSBB. HA!!!
#7 Posted by Slashkice (13055 posts) -
  • Poor character choices 
  • Weak marketing
  • Mediocre presentation

It's a good game, but those three issues held it back. Character selection most of all, I think. You can't really call your game 'PlayStation All-Stars' (speaking of which, the terrible name is issue #4) and miss iconic characters like Cloud, Crash Bandicoot, and Solid Snake. Irregardless of their ability to obtain those characters, the lack of them was always going to hurt the game. The third-party characters they did manage to get in were not good choices. Big Daddy from Bioshock and Donte (from a then unreleased game) are not what pumps up the market. 

Presentation was also lacking. Menus, for example, were functional, but looked like they were designed by an intern. It's the first thing you see in the game, and it doesn't leave a good impression. Collectibles were present in number, but not in quality. The actual fighting in the game was done well, but the arcade mode was far less interesting than the one in Smash. Basically everything outside of the actual battles needed work.

#8 Posted by Gue1 (9500 posts) -

fans have been clamoring for a game like this to be made for years and when Sony finally makes it they ignore it.  But why it failed this bad? Probably marketing because what sell games these days is not quality but marketing and hype. That's why Kinect has sold so much while the Eyetoy was basically another flop.

#9 Posted by LadyBlue (3927 posts) -

iono, It's actually a very fun game. I'm ashamed of my fellow cows that didn't pick it up.

#10 Posted by kuraimen (28078 posts) -
Because the 360 doesn't have any games.
#11 Posted by trollhunter2 (1214 posts) -

pasbr was a great game. Too bad that sony has sh*tty marketing

#12 Posted by SuperNovaftw (2636 posts) -

iono, It's actually a very fun game. I'm ashamed of my fellow cows that didn't pick it up.

Pete-B
I want to get it but I know its one of those games I will get bored of after a few months. Unlike Super Smash flash in nearly everyone special there is nothing you can do but dodge? :( well thats what happend in the beta atleast.
#13 Posted by DropsofJupiter (1424 posts) -

Why is your troll thread such a commercial failure?

SuperNovaftw
How is this a troll thread?
#14 Posted by Blabadon (25949 posts) -
The game is fun as balls on the Vita, I'd imagine its general lack of compelling content doomed it quite easily on the PS3
#15 Posted by SuperNovaftw (2636 posts) -
[QUOTE="SuperNovaftw"]

Why is your troll thread such a commercial failure?

DropsofJupiter
How is this a troll thread?

Not enough detail, expecting an obvious answer eg. Nintendo has more popular charachters, its a bait for lems to come and say the game sucks.
#16 Posted by DropsofJupiter (1424 posts) -
[QUOTE="DropsofJupiter"][QUOTE="SuperNovaftw"]

Why is your troll thread such a commercial failure?

SuperNovaftw
How is this a troll thread?

Not enough detail, expecting an obvious answer eg. Nintendo has more popular charachters, its a bait for lems to come and say the game sucks.

I would say it's a pretty genuine question. He outlines the pros and the cons of the game in the OP, and then wonders where exactly the game might have gone wrong which led to it performing so poorly that Sony let the studio that made it go entirely. This isn't trolling.
#17 Posted by SuperNovaftw (2636 posts) -
[QUOTE="DropsofJupiter"][QUOTE="SuperNovaftw"][QUOTE="DropsofJupiter"] How is this a troll thread?

Not enough detail, expecting an obvious answer eg. Nintendo has more popular charachters, its a bait for lems to come and say the game sucks.

I would say it's a pretty genuine question. He outlines the pros and the cons of the game in the OP, and then wonders where exactly the game might have gone wrong which led to it performing so poorly that Sony let the studio that made it go entirely. This isn't trolling.

my bad :(. Next time I wont be so quick to judge I hope TC forgives me.
#18 Posted by WilliamRLBaker (28360 posts) -

because it was just a s****y clone of SSMB.

#19 Posted by SuperNovaftw (2636 posts) -
[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="SuperNovaftw"][QUOTE="DropsofJupiter"] I would say it's a pretty genuine question. He outlines the pros and the cons of the game in the OP, and then wonders where exactly the game might have gone wrong which led to it performing so poorly that Sony let the studio that made it go entirely. This isn't trolling.

my bad :(. Next time I wont be so quick to judge I hope TC forgives me.

because it was just a s****y clone of SSMB.

Unlike you young lemming. I own a PS3 and Wii :cool:
#20 Posted by Chrome- (1662 posts) -
The whole game felt like some sort of SSBB mod.
#21 Posted by DropsofJupiter (1424 posts) -

because it was just a s****y clone of SSMB.

WilliamRLBaker
Super Smash Mothers Brawl?
#22 Posted by RR360DD (11615 posts) -
Because its shlt. And like most Sony exclusives, they literally released it and left it to dry.
#23 Posted by SuperNovaftw (2636 posts) -
Because its shlt. And like most Sony exclusives, they literally released it and left it to dry.RR360DD
Man. Why swear because of a game? :(
#24 Posted by PurpleMan5000 (6986 posts) -
I just think that Sony's fanbase likes a different type of game than Nintendo's and their blatant ripoffs of Nintendo franchises like Mario Kart and SSBB are not going to sell as well as they would if they released it on a Nintendo console.
#25 Posted by Jack-Burton (2303 posts) -
I have no Idea have never experienced the game nor would I want too, looked terrible. Just put it on PS+ Sony .no one buys mediocre Nintendo knock offs
#26 Posted by WilliamRLBaker (28360 posts) -
[QUOTE="SuperNovaftw"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="SuperNovaftw"] my bad :(. Next time I wont be so quick to judge I hope TC forgives me.

because it was just a s****y clone of SSMB.

Unlike you young lemming. I own a PS3 and Wii :cool:

1. lol young...yeah...lol.. 2. lol its well known i own a ps3 and 360 but sold my wii last year. 3. gamespot coding sucks I hit quick reply since thats faster on my 360 then having to load a new page and it decided i wanted to quote you hence why i deleted your quote i had simply used your post as a reply box. 4.lol lol young and i some how dont own a ps3..with 500+ trophies.
#27 Posted by Newhopes (4510 posts) -

Nearly half the number of playable characters SSB had, Sony Frist party charactors have no where near the recognition that Nintendo's do and to be frank it doesn't play anywhere near as well as SSB either.

#28 Posted by SuperNovaftw (2636 posts) -
[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="SuperNovaftw"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] because it was just a s****y clone of SSMB.

Unlike you young lemming. I own a PS3 and Wii :cool:

1. lol young...yeah...lol.. 2. lol its well known i own a ps3 and 360 but sold my wii last year. 3. gamespot coding sucks I hit quick reply since thats faster on my 360 then having to load a new page and it decided i wanted to quote you hence why i deleted your quote i had simply used your post as a reply box. 4.lol lol young and i some how dont own a ps3..with 500+ trophies.

2 things :lol: your typing on your 360. :lol: you only have 500+ trophies.
#29 Posted by SuperNovaftw (2636 posts) -

Nearly half the number of playable characters SSB had, Sony Frist party charactors have no where near the recognition that Nintendo's do and to be frank it doesn't play anywhere near as well as SSB either.

Newhopes
I wish sony made the game during the PS2 era.
#30 Posted by Lionheart08 (15345 posts) -

I have no Idea have never experienced the game nor would I want too, looked terrible. Just put it on PS+ Sony .no one buys mediocre Nintendo knock offsJack-Burton

It was an okay game. Their decision not to include a health meter was stupid. If they were going to rip off SSB, they should've gone all the way.

#31 Posted by WilliamRLBaker (28360 posts) -
[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

because it was just a s****y clone of SSMB.

DropsofJupiter
Super Smash Mothers Brawl?

sry ment top post ssbb went past the b on the 360 onscreen keyboard ang hit m
#32 Posted by KarateeeChop (4590 posts) -

cows don't buy games. :cry:

#33 Posted by famicommander (8524 posts) -
Because (possibly Kratos or Drake aside) none of the characters in the game have the recognition of even a third-tier Nintendo mascot like Kirby or Fox McCloud, let alone the likes of Link, Mario, Sonic, Pikachu, or Samus. Also it's just not a very good game.
#34 Posted by WilliamRLBaker (28360 posts) -

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="SuperNovaftw"] Unlike you young lemming. I own a PS3 and Wii :cool:SuperNovaftw
1. lol young...yeah...lol.. 2. lol its well known i own a ps3 and 360 but sold my wii last year. 3. gamespot coding sucks I hit quick reply since thats faster on my 360 then having to load a new page and it decided i wanted to quote you hence why i deleted your quote i had simply used your post as a reply box. 4.lol lol young and i some how dont own a ps3..with 500+ trophies.

2 things :lol: your typing on your 360. :lol: you only have 500+ trophies.

2 things :lol: dbz is s*** :lol: i dont see your ach and trophies in your sig so we dont know if you outrank me on either systems useless feel good engine.

#35 Posted by SuperNovaftw (2636 posts) -

[QUOTE="SuperNovaftw"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] 1. lol young...yeah...lol.. 2. lol its well known i own a ps3 and 360 but sold my wii last year. 3. gamespot coding sucks I hit quick reply since thats faster on my 360 then having to load a new page and it decided i wanted to quote you hence why i deleted your quote i had simply used your post as a reply box. 4.lol lol young and i some how dont own a ps3..with 500+ trophies.WilliamRLBaker

2 things :lol: your typing on your 360. :lol: you only have 500+ trophies.

2 things :lol: dbz is s*** :lol: i dont see your ach and trophies in your sig so we dont know if you outrank me on either systems useless feel good engine.

:lol: legalizing hemp also. Posting on your xbox360
#36 Posted by ultraking (6904 posts) -
don't matter to me. I have the game and think its pretty fun
#37 Posted by hexashadow13 (5157 posts) -
It plays as close to SSB as any other fighter with 4 players does so I don't really get all the comparison there. :/ Anyway, the game was ridiculously imbalanced, and the character roster left a lot to be desired.
#38 Posted by ultraking (6904 posts) -
[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

[QUOTE="SuperNovaftw"] 2 things :lol: your typing on your 360. :lol: you only have 500+ trophies.SuperNovaftw

2 things :lol: dbz is s*** :lol: i dont see your ach and trophies in your sig so we dont know if you outrank me on either systems useless feel good engine.

:lol: legalizing hemp also. Posting on your xbox360

whats wrong with legalizing hemp?
#39 Posted by SuperNovaftw (2636 posts) -
[QUOTE="SuperNovaftw"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] 2 things :lol: dbz is s*** :lol: i dont see your ach and trophies in your sig so we dont know if you outrank me on either systems useless feel good engine.ultraking
:lol: legalizing hemp also. Posting on your xbox360

whats wrong with legalizing hemp?

Whats wrong with DBZ? Just using his logic.
#40 Posted by Vatusus (4437 posts) -

Someday, when its really cheap, I may buy it. Just for the kicks...

#41 Posted by casharmy (6822 posts) -

no health meter?

only way to ko by supers?

mega turn off as a real fighing game fan

#42 Posted by hexashadow13 (5157 posts) -

no health meter?

only way to ko by supers?

mega turn off as a real fighing game fan

casharmy
When it works it actually works really well and is quite innovative and unique imo. But the problem was that it just didn't work out with the majority of chars and felt really imbalanced. I feel that it was a good concept and if done by a better more experienced studio or with just more development time it could have been quite good.
#43 Posted by dream431ca (10165 posts) -

It was?

#44 Posted by Pikminmaniac (8769 posts) -

I think its because the foundation of the gameplay is weak. Having supers as the only way to get any points is odd. The actual movesets and combos are cool, but the focus on supers unravels all of that.

#45 Posted by NoodleFighter (6984 posts) -

Cows don't buy games.OreoMilkshake

#46 Posted by nextgenjoke (2123 posts) -

it just feels like a feel knock off oh a game that wasnt great to begin with.

#47 Posted by ultraking (6904 posts) -
[QUOTE="SuperNovaftw"][QUOTE="ultraking"][QUOTE="SuperNovaftw"] :lol: legalizing hemp also. Posting on your xbox360

whats wrong with legalizing hemp?

Whats wrong with DBZ? Just using his logic.

2 wrongs don't make a right
#48 Posted by JohnF111 (14051 posts) -
They didn't put effort into it, not enough advertising and no hype. You can't sell a game if you see an ad twice and then never see it again.
#49 Posted by blackace (20289 posts) -
Because the 360 doesn't have any poor fighting games like PS All-Star Battle Royale.kuraimen
You're Welcome!!
#50 Posted by SonyNintendoFan (527 posts) -

it just feels like a feel knock off oh a game that wasnt great to begin with.

nextgenjoke
Smash Bros. isn't great? It's among the best fighting games, if not the best. You can never get tired of it, its very deep and well done. The percentage health bar is very unique, and works very well... I can type here all day about why is such an amazing series, but I'm not going to convince you to my side so... yeah.