Why there are no space games on consoles?

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#1 Edited by FreedomFreeLife (2502 posts) -

I guess consoles are too weak to run space games. Console gamers mostly don´t like hardcore and skilled games. Too weak or too complex gameplay?

I list some space games screenshots(each screenshot from different game)

#2 Edited by PurpleMan5000 (7321 posts) -

Star Fox is on consoles. /thread

#3 Posted by lostrib (37589 posts) -

Doesn't a lot of Mass Effect take place in space?

#4 Edited by sts106mat (19853 posts) -

LOL

Strike suit zero directors cut recently launched on XB1 and PS4.

The game is stunning to look at and reminds me of games like X-wing etc

I would like star citizen to be on XB1 though.

#5 Edited by remiks00 (1911 posts) -

I'm a PC gamer mostly these days, but consoles did have Mass Effect. Does that not count or something?

#6 Edited by charizard1605 (58136 posts) -

Good news! Space games- a lot of them!- are coming to Wii U!

#7 Edited by FreedomFreeLife (2502 posts) -

@remiks00 said:

I'm a PC gamer mostly these days, but consoles did have Mass Effect. Does that not count or something?

Well im talking about space games where you flying with space ship, shoot ships and stuff like that, not only be in planet but planet is in space.

#8 Posted by PurpleMan5000 (7321 posts) -

Mario Galaxy is on consoles, too. GMAFB, TC.

#9 Edited by OhSnapitz (18456 posts) -

@sts106mat:

/thread

#10 Posted by charizard1605 (58136 posts) -

@FreedomFreeLife said:

@remiks00 said:

I'm a PC gamer mostly these days, but consoles did have Mass Effect. Does that not count or something?

Well im talking about space games where you flying with space ship, shoot ships and stuff like that, not only be in planet but planet is in space.

Well, if it helps, Affordable Space Adventures, Space Pioneer, and Infinity Runner are all coming to Wii U, and all this year as well.

Enjoy.

#11 Posted by sts106mat (19853 posts) -

@OhSnapitz said:

@sts106mat:

/thread

360 also got Darkstar one, which was originally a PC game. it went to 360 with full HD and it was sort of a space trading sim / shooter, though ultimately a bit shit.

It is a genre I wish consoles had more of.

If you like the look of any of the games he posted, i urge you to give strike suit zero a try. the screenshot i posted is crap (best i could find and possibly from the PC version). The game looks awesome on XB1 / PS4, the level i am upto now features a massive representation of jupiter and its moons, super good looking. check it out below (this is PC gameplay) also note that you can play with cockpit view throughout.

#12 Posted by Lulu_Lulu (13638 posts) -

This is just wrong on so many levels.... Theres much more important things you could be arguing about.... Like RPGs ! :p

#13 Edited by melonfarmerz (1188 posts) -

@sts106mat said:

@OhSnapitz said:

@sts106mat:

/thread

360 also got Darkstar one, which was originally a PC game. it went to 360 with full HD and it was sort of a space trading sim / shooter, though ultimately a bit shit.

It is a genre I wish consoles had more of.

If you like the look of any of the games he posted, i urge you to give strike suit zero a try. the screenshot i posted is crap (best i could find and possibly from the PC version). The game looks awesome on XB1 / PS4, the level i am upto now features a massive representation of jupiter and its moons, super good looking. check it out below (this is PC gameplay) also note that you can play with cockpit view throughout.

I'm sure most people here have played Strike Suite Zero. It's been like 4 bucks on Steam on several occasions. If you think that's fun I urge you to try a PC space sim because SSZ is a dumbed down, repetitive version of its non indie PC exclusive counterparts, see elite dangerous.

#14 Posted by sts106mat (19853 posts) -

@melonfarmerz: spoken like a true PC elitist.

I dont play on PC, (though i used to around the time of xwing etc) nor am i under the illusion that SSZ is anything other than a shooter set in space. like i said above, i wish there were more space games on consoles.

#15 Posted by XboxDone74 (2047 posts) -

Your Caesar suggests you beg harder for a port of Vanquish. A hardcore game, set in space, that destroys any pc space game in terms of difficulty.

Pc gaming is pretty casual, so highly unlikely most pc citizens would dare attempt it.

Carry on, casual citizen.

#16 Edited by sts106mat (19853 posts) -

@xboxdone74 said:

Your Caesar suggests you beg harder for a port of Vanquish. A hardcore game, set in space, that destroys any pc space game in terms of difficulty.

Pc gaming is pretty casual, so highly unlikely most pc citizens would dare attempt it.

Carry on, casual citizen.

vanquish has nothing to do with this topic.

#17 Posted by lostrib (37589 posts) -

@xboxdone74 said:

Your Caesar suggests you beg harder for a port of Vanquish. A hardcore game, set in space, that destroys any pc space game in terms of difficulty.

Pc gaming is pretty casual, so highly unlikely most pc citizens would dare attempt it.

Carry on, casual citizen.

lol, this joke gets worse and worse

#18 Posted by melonfarmerz (1188 posts) -

@sts106mat said:

@melonfarmerz: spoken like a true PC elitist.

I dont play on PC, (though i used to around the time of xwing etc) nor am i under the illusion that SSZ is anything other than a shooter set in space. like i said above, i wish there were more space games on consoles.

What? I was simply letting you know that if you like that type of game, there's better games out there for you to enjoy. From my experience, even when SSZ was a PC exclusive, it was never that fun.

#19 Edited by melonfarmerz (1188 posts) -

@xboxdone74 said:

Your Caesar suggests you beg harder for a port of Vanquish. A hardcore game, set in space, that destroys any pc space game in terms of difficulty.

Pc gaming is pretty casual, so highly unlikely most pc citizens would dare attempt it.

Carry on, casual citizen.

Vanquish is an extremely easy shooter that takes place in space. Nothing to do with the topic. Honestly, Halo is far superior to any game on Playstation if you want to talk space shooters.

And come on now man. We all know the target demographic of MS and Sony is the casual gamer who wants nothing but COD and FIFA

#20 Edited by FreedomFreeLife (2502 posts) -

@xboxdone74 said:

Your Caesar suggests you beg harder for a port of Vanquish. A hardcore game, set in space, that destroys any pc space game in terms of difficulty.

Pc gaming is pretty casual, so highly unlikely most pc citizens would dare attempt it.

Carry on, casual citizen.

Vanquish and hardcore? I played this game on PS3 and it was easy. Take cover, wait and shoot. Lame.

PC gaming and casual? You clearly never played PC games

#21 Edited by lostrib (37589 posts) -

@FreedomFreeLife said:

@xboxdone74 said:

Your Caesar suggests you beg harder for a port of Vanquish. A hardcore game, set in space, that destroys any pc space game in terms of difficulty.

Pc gaming is pretty casual, so highly unlikely most pc citizens would dare attempt it.

Carry on, casual citizen.

Vanquish and hardcore? I played this game on PS3 and it was easy. Take cover, wait and shoot. Lame.

PC gaming and casual? You clearly never played PC games

He has a Tablet PC

#22 Edited by charizard1605 (58136 posts) -

@FreedomFreeLife said:

@xboxdone74 said:

Your Caesar suggests you beg harder for a port of Vanquish. A hardcore game, set in space, that destroys any pc space game in terms of difficulty.

Pc gaming is pretty casual, so highly unlikely most pc citizens would dare attempt it.

Carry on, casual citizen.

Vanquish and hardcore? I played this game on PS3 and it was easy. Take cover, wait and shoot. Lame.

PC gaming and casual? You clearly never played PC games

So are you going to continue ignoring evidence of space games I posted in this thread?

#23 Edited by PAL360 (26928 posts) -

That's due to control complexity, not hardware limitations.

that said, Elite was on Nes, Wing Commander was on 16bit platforms, PS1 had Colony Wars trilogy, Rogue Leader was amazing on Game Cube, and so on.

I would love to see the return of space combat games on consoles, though.

#24 Edited by FreedomFreeLife (2502 posts) -

@charizard1605 said:

@FreedomFreeLife said:

@xboxdone74 said:

Your Caesar suggests you beg harder for a port of Vanquish. A hardcore game, set in space, that destroys any pc space game in terms of difficulty.

Pc gaming is pretty casual, so highly unlikely most pc citizens would dare attempt it.

Carry on, casual citizen.

Vanquish and hardcore? I played this game on PS3 and it was easy. Take cover, wait and shoot. Lame.

PC gaming and casual? You clearly never played PC games

So are you going to continue ignoring evidence of space games I posted in this thread?

Well sadly those are small indie games. How about big space games? No, im not ignoring.

#25 Posted by charizard1605 (58136 posts) -

@FreedomFreeLife said:

@charizard1605 said:

@FreedomFreeLife said:

@xboxdone74 said:

Your Caesar suggests you beg harder for a port of Vanquish. A hardcore game, set in space, that destroys any pc space game in terms of difficulty.

Pc gaming is pretty casual, so highly unlikely most pc citizens would dare attempt it.

Carry on, casual citizen.

Vanquish and hardcore? I played this game on PS3 and it was easy. Take cover, wait and shoot. Lame.

PC gaming and casual? You clearly never played PC games

So are you going to continue ignoring evidence of space games I posted in this thread?

Well sadly those are small indie games. How about big space games? No, im not ignoring.

The PC games are technically 'small indie games' too (Star Citizen notwithstanding).

#26 Edited by jhonMalcovich (4802 posts) -

@PurpleMan5000 said:

Star Fox is on consoles. /thread

Lol. You mean this

#27 Posted by jake44 (2021 posts) -

Dead Space...it even has space in the title.

#28 Edited by santoron (7774 posts) -

It's kind of a re-emerging genre, as evidenced by TC including games that are as much as two years away in his picture-list. You'd be a fool to think we won't see the genre on all popular platforms if it proves to be popular.

#29 Edited by charizard1605 (58136 posts) -

@jhonMalcovich said:

@PurpleMan5000 said:

Star Fox is on consoles. /thread

Lol. You mean this

You know, I never took you to be a fucking idiot.

#30 Edited by lostrib (37589 posts) -

@charizard1605 said:

@jhonMalcovich said:

@PurpleMan5000 said:

Star Fox is on consoles. /thread

Lol. You mean this

You know, I never took you to be a fucking idiot.

really?

#31 Posted by Heil68 (45145 posts) -

TC was destroyed early on and he hasn't recovered. Oh dear.

#32 Edited by mbrockway (3493 posts) -

He's clearly talking about full space combat/commerce sims like Privateer and Elite.

Space ships sims need alot of buttons to control all the functions. If they don't need alot of buttons and have a simplified interface, they are casual space shooters and hence junk. Hence, the very act of making a space sim playable on consoles turns the game into junk.

I don't necessarily agree with this reasoning, Darkstar One was pretty fun (though I played it on pc) but I can't think of any other games in that vein on consoles. Was there ever a Privateer or Elite (SNES version doesn't count) on consoles?

I would freaking kill for an open ended single player space sim like that. None of that Eve time wasting crap, just me taking on a gigantic galaxy as a miner, pirate hunter, pirate, soldier, or whatever. Tie it in to a Dark Souls type multiplayer and it would be freaking amazing.

#33 Posted by SolidGame_basic (17917 posts) -

PlanetSide 2, Mass Effect, Dead Space, Lost Planet...

#34 Posted by lostrib (37589 posts) -

@SolidGame_basic said:

PlanetSide 2, Mass Effect, Dead Space, Lost Planet...

Planet Side 2 takes place on a planet

#35 Posted by speedfreak48t5p (8138 posts) -

@xboxdone74 said:

Your Caesar suggests you beg harder for a port of Vanquish. A hardcore game, set in space, that destroys any pc space game in terms of difficulty.

Pc gaming is pretty casual, so highly unlikely most pc citizens would dare attempt it.

Carry on, casual citizen.

The amount is stupid in this post is off the charts.

#36 Edited by Ghost120x (3909 posts) -

Thread backfire?

#37 Posted by Alucard_Prime (3030 posts) -

Although

it does not involve spaceship battles, I would like to mention Dead Space 3, I loved the space scenes in that game, I had great fun fun maneuvering in space with my suit, felt like a true simulation, and I had not seen anything like that in any other game, except maybe Dead Space2

#38 Edited by misterpmedia (3468 posts) -

@Ghost120x said:

Thread backfire?

pretty much.

#39 Edited by happyduds77 (1476 posts) -
@FreedomFreeLife said:

Holy shit that looks like it came straight out of a sci-fi movie. Which game is it?

#40 Posted by GarGx1 (2750 posts) -

@charizard1605 said:

@FreedomFreeLife said:

@charizard1605 said:

@FreedomFreeLife said:

@xboxdone74 said:

Your Caesar suggests you beg harder for a port of Vanquish. A hardcore game, set in space, that destroys any pc space game in terms of difficulty.

Pc gaming is pretty casual, so highly unlikely most pc citizens would dare attempt it.

Carry on, casual citizen.

Vanquish and hardcore? I played this game on PS3 and it was easy. Take cover, wait and shoot. Lame.

PC gaming and casual? You clearly never played PC games

So are you going to continue ignoring evidence of space games I posted in this thread?

Well sadly those are small indie games. How about big space games? No, im not ignoring.

The PC games are technically 'small indie games' too (Star Citizen notwithstanding).

Star Citizen is about the most indie game of all indie games, no hedge fund investors and no publisher. Don't get much more independent than that.

Though the budget will probably be $55 million (it could be more if they have another November sale like last year) by the end of the year ;)

#41 Posted by Wasdie (50001 posts) -

It has nothing to do with power or how "hardcore" people are. Blind fanboyism leads you to make ridiculously ignorant claims like that.

Anyways space flight/sim games in general are pretty damn niche. Sure Star Citizen has 43 million in funding but less than 500k backers which puts the average spent on the game at about $86. This shows that those people are passionate about a game but there aren't necessarily a whole lot of them.

Generally if a dev is going to make a game they need to examine the markets to find where the game is demanded. Space flight/sim games have not really been on consoles ever. Barring some titles like Star Fox or Star Wars Rouge Squadron, which aren't really the same as something like Freelancer, Freespace, or Elite, the vast majority of the market for those games exists on the PC. Why would any dev try to build one of these games on the PC when the small group of people who demand those games already exist on the PC?

No logic in that.

#42 Edited by XboxDone74 (2047 posts) -

@sts106mat: vanquish has everything to do with this thread, citizen.

#43 Posted by zeeshanhaider (2603 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@FreedomFreeLife said:

@xboxdone74 said:

Your Caesar suggests you beg harder for a port of Vanquish. A hardcore game, set in space, that destroys any pc space game in terms of difficulty.

Pc gaming is pretty casual, so highly unlikely most pc citizens would dare attempt it.

Carry on, casual citizen.

Vanquish and hardcore? I played this game on PS3 and it was easy. Take cover, wait and shoot. Lame.

PC gaming and casual? You clearly never played PC games

He has a Tablet PC

Correction: His mom has.

#44 Edited by lostrib (37589 posts) -

@xboxdone74 said:

@sts106mat: vanquish has everything to do with this thread, citizen.

Don't think it does. But you are delusional, so carry on

#45 Posted by bowchicka07 (1075 posts) -

@FreedomFreeLife said:

Console gamers mostly don´t like hardcore and skilled games. Too weak or too complex gameplay?

Bold statement buddy. Maybe we just prefer a controller over a mouse and keyboard?

No that can't be it. We don't like "skilled" games. Who says that?

#46 Posted by XboxDone74 (2047 posts) -

@lostrib: Your Caesar owns two tablet pcs, each costing more than any rig you've owned.

Carry on, unsuccessful citizen.

#47 Posted by lostrib (37589 posts) -

@xboxdone74 said:

@lostrib: Your Caesar owns two tablet pcs, each costing more than any rig you've owned.

Carry on, unsuccessful citizen.

Prove it

#48 Posted by lostrib (37589 posts) -

@bowchicka07 said:

@FreedomFreeLife said:

Console gamers mostly don´t like hardcore and skilled games. Too weak or too complex gameplay?

Bold statement buddy. Maybe we just prefer a controller over a mouse and keyboard?

No that can't be it. We don't like "skilled" games. Who says that?

Actually i'd bet a lot of people want to play these space games with something other than a keyboard

Just ignore FreedomFreeLife, he's still upset that Kinect Rivals sucked and the X1 is losing

#49 Edited by Cloud_imperium (3608 posts) -

RTS and Space Sims are not very console friendly genres . Some random space games mentioned above are either mostly poor ports from PC version or just arcady space shooters and not real Space Sims .

@FreedomFreeLife :

You should change the title from "Space Games" to "Space Sims" , since lot of people are not getting it and writing about games that are not related to genre about which you are talking about .

#50 Edited by R3FURBISHED (10593 posts) -