why people hate Mass Effect trilogy?

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#51 Posted by seanmcloughlin (38219 posts) -

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I don't even bother reading your posts anymore. It's like you think people aren't entitled to an opinion regarding these games.

So an opinion based around a point being missed is valid? Thats what most ME3 detractors actually do, miss the point or plot element to criticize the game.

Because people don't go to the in and outs like you do. People can finish the trilogy and still not like it you know, doesn't make them stupid, it just makes them different.

I'd like to think I am one of the people that can actually straddle the middle line of loving it and hating it. It's neither the best thing ever nor the worst. I can look upon it with my own opinions and form my own conclusions on it. 

#52 Posted by kozzy1234 (35423 posts) -

FIrst game was fantastic, 2nd was good but not great, 3rd was about the same, some good aspects but not as great as the first game/

ME felt like an rpg to me, 2 and 3 feel alot more like a shooter. Still fun games but I would have prefered 2 and 3 to be more in the vien of ME1.

I would LOVE for a ME1 remake in the ME3 engine. The combat was smoother and less bugs in 2 and 3, but it also didnt have as much roleplaying and rpg elements. ME1 to me felt like a great  movie, while 2 and 3 felt more liek Micheal Bay took control of the series if this was a movie series (after say Guilmero Del Toro or Scorcese making the first ME)

#53 Posted by AvatarMan96 (7324 posts) -

I just thing people have overhyped the series beyond belief

#54 Posted by adamosmaki (9929 posts) -
foe me is ME1 was a great game ME2 still a good game though not as good as 1 and ME3 i found boring
#55 Posted by LegatoSkyheart (26762 posts) -

They dislike the last 10 minutes.

GD1551

#56 Posted by TheEroica (14676 posts) -
Honestly i have no idea... Franchise of gen hands down.... its more fun appear elite and tear down things that are awesome.
#57 Posted by Bigboi500 (31819 posts) -

Because they know it's a crap series.

#58 Posted by WiiCubeM1 (4730 posts) -

Popularity breeds contempt, and gamers breed contempt faster than Plutonian penguins.

Basically the same reason everyone tear apart Skyrim: overanalyzation and the inability to expand their interests.

#59 Posted by da_illest101 (7780 posts) -

Because it bored me to death.

Newhopes
same here
#60 Posted by RageQuitter69 (1366 posts) -

Whenever someone hates a popular series, people assume that they just hate it for the sake of hating it, has anyone ever considered that they have their reasons for hating a particular game series.

Mass Effect 1 and 2 (never played 3) are some of the most boring games I have ever played, anything that even releates to gameplay is extremely bare bones, game developers should really learn that stories in games don't make everything and that gameplay should get first priority.

#61 Posted by The_Last_Ride (75414 posts) -
i love the ME trilogy, people hate the ending
#62 Posted by Jankarcop (10864 posts) -

Its a brilliant trilogy. People are just stupidRR360DD
And its best on PC.

#63 Posted by Sushiglutton (5713 posts) -

I dislike them mostly because of the gameplay/level design. The levels are reptetive, with unnatural layouts and lack finesse. Since there is no interesting way to traverse them, and no puzzles it's basically walk, walk, shoot, shoot. That would have been ok if the combat was engaging, which it is not. There is a lot of customization, but there is little need for strategic thinking. Cheap tactis will get you anywhere you want. Then we have the side content with quests like scan planet A to find a statue :|. That's about as fun as clicking an icon on your desktop. Finally I really don't like the morality system. It encourages you to make your choices based on some silly score instead of choosing what you think is right (like the Witcher 2 does for example). Very poor design.

Mass Effect fails for the same reason as Assassin's Creed for me. They both have a large scoop, but since the core mechanics are so flat the overall experience is simply not fun.

#64 Posted by Zeviander (9503 posts) -
I'd like to think I am one of the people that can actually straddle the middle line of loving it and hating it. It's neither the best thing ever nor the worst. I can look upon it with my own opinions and form my own conclusions on it.seanmcloughlin
I don't hate it either. I actually quite liked the science-drama direction they were going with the first game. It reminded me of Star Wars combined with Star Trek, without the space magic of Wars (for once the Force had a not-stupid scientific foundation), and the tedious monotony of the crew relationships of Trek. Then Mass Dating Simulator 2 came out and gave the latter back, and then 3 came out with the former. If they continue making games set in the universe, perhaps in a non-human era (i.e. The Krogan Rebellion for instance), I might be persuaded to start loving the series again. But I don't want to play as a save-the-universe lothario anymore. I want to be a grunt and see a not-so-epic tale of intrigue unfold around me.
#65 Posted by finalstar2007 (26290 posts) -

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

I finally got to play Playing Mass Effect 1 is like playing a PS1 game, lol which gives to show to much better ME2 and ME3 are.

Lucianu

Play the PC version next time.  

Appreciate the suggestion but i dont game on PC.... my PC is for everything except gaming.

#66 Posted by Badosh (12741 posts) -
It sucked?
#67 Posted by Fossil- (351 posts) -
Mass Effect is OK but massively overhyped (or at least it WAS before the ending). Pretty much everything BioWare put out this gen is terrible though. I don't think most people actually hate Mass Effect, just more of them are beginning to realize that BioWare is garbage.
#68 Posted by cain006 (8625 posts) -

I dunno. People took the series way too seriously. I mean the ending was pretty bad, but the rest of the game was great.

#69 Posted by Lulekani (2151 posts) -
[QUOTE="Lulekani"]Sounds like you hate ME2 out of spite.Zeviander
:lol: Did you miss the part where I said I enjoyed the game regardless of the design choices I didn't? Do people even read posts anymore? It's like you have an agenda to rag on "haters" and don't care if the person you attack is a hater or not.

Down here in SW you're poster, not a journalist or video game expert. Besides you clearly can't seperate what liker or not from whats good or not. ME2 was a definate improvement of ME1. You welcome to dislike it but only a coward would slander a game to justify their feelins towards.
#70 Posted by Ilovegames1992 (14221 posts) -

Mass Effect is OK but massively overhyped (or at least it WAS before the ending). Pretty much everything BioWare put out this gen is terrible though. I don't think most people actually hate Mass Effect, just more of them are beginning to realize that BioWare is garbage.Fossil-

Subjectivity is the ultimate shield in defense of saying really silly things. 

I respect people's opinion's but Bioware are far from garbage. It's like saying Scorsese is garbage because you didn't happen to like Casino.

#71 Posted by khoofia_pika (13562 posts) -
Mass Effect is OK but massively overhyped (or at least it WAS before the ending). Pretty much everything BioWare put out this gen is terrible though. I don't think most people actually hate Mass Effect, just more of them are beginning to realize that BioWare is garbage.Fossil-
Have you played any pre-ME BioWare games?
#72 Posted by mccoyca112 (5433 posts) -

I have next to no problems...with the first one.

#73 Posted by clyde46 (47872 posts) -
The ending left me with the biggest case of blueballs in my life.
#74 Posted by lundy86_4 (44653 posts) -

> texasgoldrushGiancar

lol.

#75 Posted by Zeviander (9503 posts) -
Down here in SW you're poster, not a journalist or video game expert. Besides you clearly can't seperate what liker or not from whats good or not. ME2 was a definate improvement of ME1. You welcome to dislike it but only a coward would slander a game to justify their feelins towards. Lulekani
 I think I might have offended your delicate sensitivities. I admitted to enjoying ME2. I admitted that ME2 was a mechanically better game than ME in all aspects. I'm not sure what your problem is. If I enjoyed it, I can't have an opinion about how I feel where the series should have gone? I have to accept it wholesale, be an uncritical, unthinking sheep, or I'm a "hater"? ffs
#76 Posted by Chozofication (4554 posts) -

I took a gamble on the PS3 version, I knew they weren't going to be good but I thought it would be something to play through.  I couldn't get through 10 minutes of the first to realize how horrible these games were going to be. 

Luckily, I can make back 75% of my money selling it on ebay, at least.  If you want a good WRPG, play the Witcher series. 

#77 Posted by Miroku32 (8666 posts) -

They dislike the last 10 minutes.

GD1551
Well, on PC you can change those last 10 minutes with some mods.
#78 Posted by Kandlegoat (3147 posts) -

I dont hate the trilogy. I just dont think they're anthing special in the context of a Roleplaying game.

 

 I find them to be fun interactive 80's B movie sci fi films and in that regard,ME1 did the best job at capturing the feel and atmosphere of those types of movies.

 

Alot of the Bashing on this forum is actually just people having a laugh by baiting Texasgoldrush and his boyfriend Dreman999 into nerdrage diatribes about how "we just dont get it"

#79 Posted by Jebus213 (8926 posts) -

They dislike the last 10 minutes.

GD1551
#80 Posted by campzor (34932 posts) -
i dont hate it... i hate the gameplay in the first 1...but enjoy the rest pretty much, and i dont hate anything about me2... (havnt played 3 yet)
#81 Posted by Fossil- (351 posts) -

[QUOTE="Fossil-"]Mass Effect is OK but massively overhyped (or at least it WAS before the ending). Pretty much everything BioWare put out this gen is terrible though. I don't think most people actually hate Mass Effect, just more of them are beginning to realize that BioWare is garbage.Ilovegames1992

Subjectivity is the ultimate shield in defense of saying really silly things. 

I respect people's opinion's but Bioware are far from garbage. It's like saying Scorsese is garbage because you didn't happen to like Casino.

And your post is no more objective nor less silly than mine. This is system wars anyways, there's no room for objectivity and ultimately most of the factors that can be reviewed objectively have little to no impact on how much someone actually enjoys a game unless it's glitch-bombed like one of Bethesda's abominations.
Have you played any pre-ME BioWare games? khoofia_pika
I specifically said this generation. Pretty much everything they've put out has been mediocre to terrible. I'm not going to praise a company that hasn't made more than one good game in the last 10 years.

#82 Posted by Lionheart08 (15700 posts) -

Like the trilogy, hate the ending.

But yeah, speaking as someone who was previously huge into the games, Bioware used to have a really obnoxious fanbase. I'm talking "Don't speak bad about the Biogods, go back and play your FPSs" level obnoxious. It's almost some divine karma that the Dragon Age 2, The Old Republic, and Mass Effect 3 all came out like a hat trick and shut them up.

#83 Posted by OB-47 (10909 posts) -

Ending left everyone bitter.

It not being an RPG somehow matters.

I think the series is pretty good. Not my favourite though

#84 Posted by drinkerofjuice (3733 posts) -
I don't hate the series (though the original is weak), but while the universe is great, as a game the series is merely good.
#85 Posted by Crunchy_Nuts (2749 posts) -
I think that a lot of people feel that the games had so much more potential considering the amazing universe that Bioware created. In terms of gameplay I feel that they progressively got better with each one. Still I found 2 to be best overall, maybe it's just because it's the one I played first and the one I played the most.
#86 Posted by HaloPimp978 (7329 posts) -

I love the ME trilogy its the ending that killed it for it.

#87 Posted by Granny_Spanked (1339 posts) -
The ending wasn't even that bad, I don't get why everyone thinks the series is terrible, because of the ten minutes at the end. Bioware decided to not go with the conventional Hollywood ending, and whats wrong with that? TWD had a sad, no hope ending and no one complains about that.
#88 Posted by klusps (10385 posts) -

Love the whole trilogy but I dislike the ending. Simple as that. 

#89 Posted by cain006 (8625 posts) -

The ending wasn't even that bad, I don't get why everyone thinks the series is terrible, because of the ten minutes at the end. Bioware decided to not go with the conventional Hollywood ending, and whats wrong with that? TWD had a sad, no hope ending and no one complains about that.Granny_Spanked
I dunno either. They always complain about space magic and stuff. I mean really? You die in Mass Effect 2 and are brought back to life. The reapers were making human pudding for a reaper. The Rachni can control dead bodies with their minds. You find a living prothean and Cerberus didn't bother to take 5 minutes to get him out before you get there.

The series is full of extremely stupid/implausible things.

#90 Posted by BranKetra (50392 posts) -
They dislike traveling.
#91 Posted by Installing (678 posts) -
Iiked the first one, got bored of the second, not played the third.
#92 Posted by Ballroompirate (23927 posts) -

People hate popular things, my only grip about the series is how ME3 ended, other than that ME is one of the best Sci-Fi video game series.

#93 Posted by lamprey263 (26460 posts) -
people turned on it after ME3's ending fiasco, though IMO I loved everything about ME3 but the ending, and even that disappointment wore off with repeat playthroughs as everything else about that game was great, and the entire series for that matter people also turned on Bioware after Dragon Age II and in general people hate EA even though I think they make some of the most enjoyable games
#94 Posted by zombehhhhh (452 posts) -

I love the Mass Effect trilogy. I love the universe it's set in and I love the choices you make. I still haven't beaten ME3 but I know how it ends and it did upset me how Bioware decided to end such an epic saga but it doesn't make me dislike the series at all.

#95 Posted by texasgoldrush (9616 posts) -

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="Zeviander"] I don't even bother reading your posts anymore. It's like you think people aren't entitled to an opinion regarding these games.seanmcloughlin

So an opinion based around a point being missed is valid? Thats what most ME3 detractors actually do, miss the point or plot element to criticize the game.

Because people don't go to the in and outs like you do. People can finish the trilogy and still not like it you know, doesn't make them stupid, it just makes them different.

I'd like to think I am one of the people that can actually straddle the middle line of loving it and hating it. It's neither the best thing ever nor the worst. I can look upon it with my own opinions and form my own conclusions on it. 

But to actually see something for what it really is...you have to see the ins and outs. The series is heavy on its ins and outs.
#96 Posted by texasgoldrush (9616 posts) -

I dont hate the trilogy. I just dont think they're anthing special in the context of a Roleplaying game.

 

 I find them to be fun interactive 80's B movie sci fi films and in that regard,ME1 did the best job at capturing the feel and atmosphere of those types of movies.

 

Alot of the Bashing on this forum is actually just people having a laugh by baiting Texasgoldrush and his boyfriend Dreman999 into nerdrage diatribes about how "we just dont get it"

Kandlegoat
And yet the detractors either accidently or intentionally miss clear story facts that go against their claims. The fact, the truth is, that people hate Bioware and will do anything to try and bring them down. They will make any criticism whether its valid or not. Then they try to bash those that know about the game and its story to counter their claims.
#97 Posted by LongZhiZi (2453 posts) -
Mass Effect 1- Good, but not particularly great. I certainly enjoyed myself and could see myself playing future iterations. But I certainly wasn't "Day 1 for ME2!!" Mass Effect 2- Why oh why did they throw out all of the RPG mechanics? Now, this didn't have to be a horrible thing, but the truth is, ME2 isn't a particularly good TPS. Play a few on the PC and then play this and it's easy to see. Mass Effect 3- Never played. I think I could enjoy the game more if I could use a gamepad, but Bioware continues to prove itself to be one of the laziest developers out there because they rip out gamepad support from their PC versions. It's already been coded and the artwork is done....it's just a minor task of testing it and bugfixing. But they don't do it. Then they claim that the PC version is truly made for PC. :lol: Their control scheme says otherwise.
#98 Posted by handssss (1901 posts) -

The ending wasn't even that bad, I don't get why everyone thinks the series is terrible, because of the ten minutes at the end. Bioware decided to not go with the conventional Hollywood ending, and whats wrong with that? TWD had a sad, no hope ending and no one complains about that.Granny_Spanked
Mass Effect. A TRILOGY of games where your choices all carry over from the first game to the last, where they were supposed to matter, didn't just have a crappy ending.

It was worse. Our choices were supposed to matter and it boiled down to being a number. no epic cutscenes, just a number. a number LARGELY influenced by the shoehorned in multiplayer. the ending was right the **** out of nowhere and despite bioware saying that we WOULD NOT have an "A, B, or C ending" that is EXACTLY what we got. all choices basically amounted to the same thing. Doesn't matter how many paragon or renegade points, how many war assets, what choices, etc. all sad endings for shepard. What is wrong with at least 1 ending being happy and all the other endings being sad or bittersweet? or an ending that made sense. the starchild was crap and bioware took things in a completely different direction than they meant to at the time of mass effect 2's completion and it shows. also, it seems like EVERY game is having this same type of ending now. it's too generic and lame. it's like once RDR did it everyone wants to follow.

#99 Posted by texasgoldrush (9616 posts) -

[QUOTE="Granny_Spanked"]The ending wasn't even that bad, I don't get why everyone thinks the series is terrible, because of the ten minutes at the end. Bioware decided to not go with the conventional Hollywood ending, and whats wrong with that? TWD had a sad, no hope ending and no one complains about that.handssss

Mass Effect. A TRILOGY of games where your choices all carry over from the first game to the last, where they were supposed to matter, didn't just have a crappy ending.

It was worse. Our choices were supposed to matter and it boiled down to being a number. no epic cutscenes, just a number. a number LARGELY influenced by the shoehorned in multiplayer. the ending was right the **** out of nowhere and despite bioware saying that we WOULD NOT have an "A, B, or C ending" that is EXACTLY what we got. all choices basically amounted to the same thing. Doesn't matter how many paragon or renegade points, how many war assets, what choices, etc. all sad endings for shepard. What is wrong with at least 1 ending being happy and all the other endings being sad or bittersweet? or an ending that made sense. the starchild was crap and bioware took things in a completely different direction than they meant to at the time of mass effect 2's completion and it shows. also, it seems like EVERY game is having this same type of ending now. it's too generic and lame. it's like once RDR did it everyone wants to follow.

And yet, once again, you refuse to admit that they fixed most of the problem. At first, yes, it was A,B,C. But now the extended cut indeed shows you not only the consquences of your actions, but how A,b,C affects them. Oh and Renegade and Paragon now affects the Control ending. Nevermind the conflict between A and B were featured throught the game and C was even talked about by Saren. Wrong, the ending was not out of nowhere. You were not paying attention. In fact the Catalyst and his motives were foreshadowed during the game, hypothesized on Thessia by Vendetta as well as the Rannoch Reaper hinting at their motives. Nevermind the dilemma and the consquences of firing the Crucible were talked about throughout the game. All sad endings well, deal with it, the main theme of ME3 was "victory through sacrifice". Or did you ignore this clear theme throughout the game? And if you want the direction they were going in before they changed it, well guess what....the old plan was even darker, mor ebittersweet, and far more full of plot holes. If they followed the dark energy plot, you'd be whining even more.
#100 Posted by Timstuff (26837 posts) -
It's the exact same thing that is currently happening with My Little Pony. The fans all loved it for the longest time, even though some griped over some things changing over time, but then when word got out that it jumps the shark right at the end of #3, everyone started panicking, and then came the wave of rage that causes the fanbase to devour itself. The corporate suits laugh because they have already lined their pockets, but the crew sweats bullets wondering how they can possibly put out some damage control on a sh!tstorm of this capacity.