Why nothing even comes close to the PC right now...

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#1 Posted by iamrob7 (2138 posts) -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkWe83bud1A

One of the many PC exclusives that are really putting the PC in a completely different league to consoles right now. It will be nice when new consoles get released and SW can hopefully see some sort of competition for the PC again, at least for a while. Right now the PC is so dominant it has almost become embarassing to even mention it. It's like Mike Tyson picking a fight with a 10 year old girl.

With Valve announcing their convenient PC for the living room, I don't really see what consoles have left? The PC dominates in every single area, the most games, the best games in every genre except perhaps sports, the most high scoring exclusives, the best graphics, the best sound, the greatest versatility/variety (mods) etc, the best version of every multiplatform game...

The only thing consoles had left was the convenience of playing on your couch without having to set things up. Now that is gone, what is left for consoles? Expense? Well consoles are cheap I suppose, but you can get a PC for $200-250 now that will play any multiplat in higher graphical settings than any console. Plus with the expense of console games compared to PC games I don't really see much of a cost difference right now.

So that's it then, the last thing console gamers could cling to has gone, the PC has crushed them under its mighty boot. What now for hermits on SW?

#2 Posted by mems_1224 (46970 posts) -
why are there so many dumb pc threads stating the obvious?? Hermits are about to reach cows level of sad around here.
#3 Posted by GamingVengeance (1854 posts) -
whats with all these pc threads?
#4 Posted by GamingVengeance (1854 posts) -
also lol @ 480p
#5 Posted by iamrob7 (2138 posts) -

why are there so many dumb pc threads stating the obvious?? Hermits are about to reach cows level of sad around here.mems_1224

I lose track of who cows are, are they Xbox gamers or PS3 gamers? They all seem the same to me.

Anyway, just celebrating the complete and total victory of the PC as a platform, isn't that what system wars is about? You know, which system is best.

#6 Posted by iamrob7 (2138 posts) -

also lol @ 480pGamingVengeance

Yeah unfortunate as it is a nice clip. Game looks epic with high settings at 1080p, I think that comes across well when you watch it in the small window.

#7 Posted by mems_1224 (46970 posts) -

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]why are there so many dumb pc threads stating the obvious?? Hermits are about to reach cows level of sad around here.iamrob7

I lose track of who cows are, are they Xbox gamers or PS3 gamers? They all seem the same to me.

Anyway, just celebrating the complete and total victory of the PC as a platform, isn't that what system wars is about? You know, which system is best.

yea but everyone knows the pc is clearly ahead of all the consoles. you aren't making some big revelation
#8 Posted by k2theswiss (16599 posts) -
why are there so many dumb pc threads stating the obvious?? Hermits are about to reach cows level of sad around here.mems_1224
must mean consolets are coming over but haven't stopped their trolling lol j/kin
#9 Posted by lundy86_4 (43227 posts) -

also lol @ 480pGamingVengeance

Someone clearly didn't want to spend forever uploading a video :P

#10 Posted by Heirren (16862 posts) -
I'm probably going to build a gaming pc around the time the next consoles launch. I don't kid myself, though. Building a gaming pc, right, is expensive. $300 for a gaming pc? Lol, how?! Please explain. First, saving money at the start just means that more money will be spent down the line. ...
#11 Posted by GamingVengeance (1854 posts) -

[QUOTE="GamingVengeance"]also lol @ 480piamrob7

Yeah unfortunate as it is a nice clip. Game looks epic with high settings at 1080p, I think that comes across well when you watch it in the small window.

looks even better at 1440p :P
#12 Posted by iamrob7 (2138 posts) -

[QUOTE="iamrob7"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]why are there so many dumb pc threads stating the obvious?? Hermits are about to reach cows level of sad around here.mems_1224

I lose track of who cows are, are they Xbox gamers or PS3 gamers? They all seem the same to me.

Anyway, just celebrating the complete and total victory of the PC as a platform, isn't that what system wars is about? You know, which system is best.

yea but everyone knows the pc is clearly ahead of all the consoles. you aren't making some big revelation

I am for some. Some people are still in denial.

#13 Posted by d_parker (1715 posts) -

I really enjoy playing Tiger Woods 13, NHL 13 and Madden 13 against my friends both offline and online on my PC.

Oh wait, those games aren't on the PC. My bad.

#14 Posted by iamrob7 (2138 posts) -

I'm probably going to build a gaming pc around the time the next consoles launch. I don't kid myself, though. Building a gaming of, right, is expensive. $300 for a gaming pc? Lol, how?! Please explain. First, saving money at the start just means that more money will be spent down the line. ...Heirren

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/df-hardware-introducing-the-digital-foundry-pc

Here is a £300 PC built by Digital foundry 5-6 months ago that will deliver multiplats at slightly higher settings and almost double the framerate of their console counterparts. The same PC will be around £100 cheaper by now.

Depends what you want though, if you want the ultra settings in super high resolution @60 FPS you are going to have to pay for it. If you are satisfied with something just quite a bit better than what the current consoles provide you don't have to pay much at all and that PC will last just as long as this current console generation lasts because those multiplats are limited by the consoles.

#15 Posted by mems_1224 (46970 posts) -

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="iamrob7"]

I lose track of who cows are, are they Xbox gamers or PS3 gamers? They all seem the same to me.

Anyway, just celebrating the complete and total victory of the PC as a platform, isn't that what system wars is about? You know, which system is best.

iamrob7

yea but everyone knows the pc is clearly ahead of all the consoles. you aren't making some big revelation

I am for some. Some people are still in denial.

Yea but thats not gonna change their mind. Thats like arguing with a blind person and trying to convince them that the sky is blue.
#16 Posted by iamrob7 (2138 posts) -

[QUOTE="iamrob7"]

[QUOTE="GamingVengeance"]also lol @ 480pGamingVengeance

Yeah unfortunate as it is a nice clip. Game looks epic with high settings at 1080p, I think that comes across well when you watch it in the small window.

looks even better at 1440p :P

That game would rape my PC at 1440p. I have a 3770k @4.6Ghz, 12mb RAM and an overclocked GTX 580, planetside 2 still struggles to maintain 50+fps in big battles at high settings 1080p. I can only imagine what this game would be like with a triple 30" monitor setup with the hardware to back it up.

#17 Posted by iamrob7 (2138 posts) -

I really enjoy playing Tiger Woods 13, NHL 13 and Madden 13 against my friends both offline and online on my PC.

Oh wait, those games aren't on the PC. My bad.

d_parker

Lol, indeed as I said that is about it, the last bastion for console gaming, a few sports games. That will probably change now with the living room console PC coming out.

#18 Posted by Jebus213 (8782 posts) -

[QUOTE="GamingVengeance"][QUOTE="iamrob7"]

Yeah unfortunate as it is a nice clip. Game looks epic with high settings at 1080p, I think that comes across well when you watch it in the small window.

iamrob7

looks even better at 1440p :P

That game would rape my PC at 1440p. I have a 3770k @4.6Ghz, 12mb RAM and an overclocked GTX 580, planetside 2 still struggles to maintain 50+fps in big battles at high settings 1080p. I can only imagine what this game would be like with a triple 30" monitor setup with the hardware to back it up.

You should check out your GPU usage. The game barely uses it.
#19 Posted by AmazonTreeBoa (16745 posts) -
why are there so many dumb pc threads stating the obvious?? Hermits are about to reach cows level of sad around here.mems_1224
Only to those who are too stupid to tell the difference between a hermit and a troll.
#20 Posted by mems_1224 (46970 posts) -
[QUOTE="mems_1224"]why are there so many dumb pc threads stating the obvious?? Hermits are about to reach cows level of sad around here.AmazonTreeBoa
Only to those who are too stupid to tell the difference between a hermit and a troll.

hermits are trolls, most are anyways.
#21 Posted by psymon100 (6138 posts) -

Am downloading now.

#22 Posted by iamrob7 (2138 posts) -

[QUOTE="iamrob7"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] yea but everyone knows the pc is clearly ahead of all the consoles. you aren't making some big revelationmems_1224

I am for some. Some people are still in denial.

Yea but thats not gonna change their mind. Thats like arguing with a blind person and trying to convince them that the sky is blue.

I'm not interested in changing their mind, just exposing them to reality is enough reward for me. Some will live in denial, others will set themselves free.

#23 Posted by Heirren (16862 posts) -

[QUOTE="Heirren"]I'm probably going to build a gaming pc around the time the next consoles launch. I don't kid myself, though. Building a gaming of, right, is expensive. $300 for a gaming pc? Lol, how?! Please explain. First, saving money at the start just means that more money will be spent down the line. ...iamrob7

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/df-hardware-introducing-the-digital-foundry-pc

Here is a £300 PC built by Digital foundry 5-6 months ago that will deliver multiplats at slightly higher settings and almost double the framerate of their console counterparts. The same PC will be around £100 cheaper by now.

Depends what you want though, if you want the ultra settings in super high resolution @60 FPS you are going to have to pay for it. If you are satisfied with something just quite a bit better than what the current consoles provide you don't have to pay much at all and that PC will last just as long as this current console generation lasts because those multiplats are limited by the consoles.

With just slightly better visuals, I'd take the consoles for the exclusives, anyway. It's my personal take that if one is to go the pc gaming route, they do it smart and right--and that's expensive.
#24 Posted by iamrob7 (2138 posts) -

[QUOTE="iamrob7"]

[QUOTE="GamingVengeance"] looks even better at 1440p :PJebus213

That game would rape my PC at 1440p. I have a 3770k @4.6Ghz, 12mb RAM and an overclocked GTX 580, planetside 2 still struggles to maintain 50+fps in big battles at high settings 1080p. I can only imagine what this game would be like with a triple 30" monitor setup with the hardware to back it up.

You should check out your GPU usage. The game barely uses it.

That's true enough I suppose, it is my CPU that causes the frame rate dips in large battles, although 50FPS is fine for me. I suppose the greater resolution might not be as much of a penalty as I thought.

#25 Posted by iamrob7 (2138 posts) -

[QUOTE="iamrob7"]

[QUOTE="Heirren"]I'm probably going to build a gaming pc around the time the next consoles launch. I don't kid myself, though. Building a gaming of, right, is expensive. $300 for a gaming pc? Lol, how?! Please explain. First, saving money at the start just means that more money will be spent down the line. ...Heirren

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/df-hardware-introducing-the-digital-foundry-pc

Here is a £300 PC built by Digital foundry 5-6 months ago that will deliver multiplats at slightly higher settings and almost double the framerate of their console counterparts. The same PC will be around £100 cheaper by now.

Depends what you want though, if you want the ultra settings in super high resolution @60 FPS you are going to have to pay for it. If you are satisfied with something just quite a bit better than what the current consoles provide you don't have to pay much at all and that PC will last just as long as this current console generation lasts because those multiplats are limited by the consoles.

With just slightly better visuals, I'd take the consoles for the exclusives, anyway. It's my personal take that if one is to go the pc gaming route, they do it smart and right--and that's expensive.

Fair enough, I'd argue that PC exclusives are a step above console exclusives right now, but each to their own.

#26 Posted by Newhopes (4533 posts) -

Why should I give a damn about yet another FPS especially one with a cash shop.

#27 Posted by OhSnapitz (18312 posts) -
Certainly a number of insecure hermits as of late.. :?
#28 Posted by iamrob7 (2138 posts) -

Why should I give a damn about yet another FPS especially one with a cash shop.

Newhopes

Because there is no multiplayer FPS that has anything like this scale, infantry/armour/air and up to 2000 players in a battle. It's a unique experience. There is a cash shop because you pay nothing for it in the first place.

Planetside 2 is the tip of the iceberg, the best game I've played this year is undoubtedly DayZ, another PC exclusive that can provide incredible gaming experiences.

#29 Posted by wis3boi (31293 posts) -

[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]why are there so many dumb pc threads stating the obvious?? Hermits are about to reach cows level of sad around here.mems_1224
Only to those who are too stupid to tell the difference between a hermit and a troll.

hermits are trolls, most are anyways.

the ones who are fake/trolls never use the PC forum

#30 Posted by Trinitarian (1278 posts) -

well no TLoU or GTAV for you and your PC dominaiton theory.

#31 Posted by lowe0 (13692 posts) -

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]why are there so many dumb pc threads stating the obvious?? Hermits are about to reach cows level of sad around here.iamrob7

I lose track of who cows are, are they Xbox gamers or PS3 gamers? They all seem the same to me.

Anyway, just celebrating the complete and total victory of the PC as a platform, isn't that what system wars is about? You know, which system is best.

If your system were universally superior, wouldn't most of us have switched by now? It's not like we can't find a Fry's.
#32 Posted by Newhopes (4533 posts) -

[QUOTE="iamrob7"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]why are there so many dumb pc threads stating the obvious?? Hermits are about to reach cows level of sad around here.lowe0

I lose track of who cows are, are they Xbox gamers or PS3 gamers? They all seem the same to me.

Anyway, just celebrating the complete and total victory of the PC as a platform, isn't that what system wars is about? You know, which system is best.

If your system were universally superior, wouldn't most of us have switched by now? It's not like we can't find a Fry's.

They're too stupid to realise that many don't give a cow pat about graphics or PC centric type games.

#33 Posted by iamrob7 (2138 posts) -

[QUOTE="iamrob7"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]why are there so many dumb pc threads stating the obvious?? Hermits are about to reach cows level of sad around here.lowe0

I lose track of who cows are, are they Xbox gamers or PS3 gamers? They all seem the same to me.

Anyway, just celebrating the complete and total victory of the PC as a platform, isn't that what system wars is about? You know, which system is best.

If your system were universally superior, wouldn't most of us have switched by now? It's not like we can't find a Fry's.

Most of "you" don't actually comprehend the situation. Some are in denial, some are delusional and many are just confused.

#34 Posted by iamrob7 (2138 posts) -

well no TLoU or GTAV for you and your PC dominaiton theory.

Trinitarian

GTA V will almost certainly end up coming out on the PC, as the previous games did. It's just less of a big deal on the PC, where amazing games are plentiful, on the consoles they lose their marbles over it.

I had to google Tlou to work out what you were talking about. Erm, well I think we will manage without it just about, what with the long list of exceptional PC exclusives that completely overshadow it.

#35 Posted by campzor (34932 posts) -
only possible because of godny
#36 Posted by Led_poison (10143 posts) -

Probably should download it.

#37 Posted by Primordialous (1276 posts) -

tl;dr- PC is superior. We know. We hear it every day.

#38 Posted by Goyoshi12 (9687 posts) -

why are there so many dumb pc threads stating the obvious?? Hermits are about to reach cows level of sad around here.mems_1224

Today's national "Beat a Dead Horse" day!

You just take a topic that's been talked about constantly and then you beat it down until there's nothing but a red blood stain on the surface of Earth.

It's brutal but entertaining.

#39 Posted by AmazonTreeBoa (16745 posts) -
[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]why are there so many dumb pc threads stating the obvious?? Hermits are about to reach cows level of sad around here.mems_1224
Only to those who are too stupid to tell the difference between a hermit and a troll.

hermits are trolls, most are anyways.

So basicly you just admited you are too stupid to tell the difference. Thanks for clearing that up.
#40 Posted by Naylord (675 posts) -

That's technologically impressive but large scale shooters are not my cup of tea. I'm sure plenty of people will love that game though

#41 Posted by funsohng (27658 posts) -

tl;dr- PC is superior. We know. We hear it every day.

Primordialous
Then hear it more peasants.
#42 Posted by o0squishy0o (2754 posts) -

Honestly I'll take a PC ownage thread over another Uncharted 3 Vs Gears of War thread. That plus any sort of "Console Graphics King" which seemingly means you take second place? even though its more like 39th place... but yeah. For me personally atleast PC threads tend to bring games that are something bigger and better than what is already out there. Console threads tend to be the best of a bad situation.

#43 Posted by PAL360 (26832 posts) -

Hmm....because current consoles are almost a decade old? Next gen games will probably be neck to neck with PC ones for the first few years.

#44 Posted by psymon100 (6138 posts) -

Way more frames on my dual core Pentium G860 than my quad core Phenom II X4 840. Both are on radeon 7850s.

The game's good. Actually very n00b friendly. I killed some people.

#45 Posted by KungfuKitten (20969 posts) -

[QUOTE="Heirren"]I'm probably going to build a gaming pc around the time the next consoles launch. I don't kid myself, though. Building a gaming of, right, is expensive. $300 for a gaming pc? Lol, how?! Please explain. First, saving money at the start just means that more money will be spent down the line. ...iamrob7

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/df-hardware-introducing-the-digital-foundry-pc

Here is a £300 PC built by Digital foundry 5-6 months ago that will deliver multiplats at slightly higher settings and almost double the framerate of their console counterparts. The same PC will be around £100 cheaper by now.

Depends what you want though, if you want the ultra settings in super high resolution @60 FPS you are going to have to pay for it. If you are satisfied with something just quite a bit better than what the current consoles provide you don't have to pay much at all and that PC will last just as long as this current console generation lasts because those multiplats are limited by the consoles.

next gen ~ $400 console
$50 * 5 year gen ~ $250 for online
15 games per year * 5 year gen ~ $750 license fee
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- +
~ $1400 PC hardware (no screen) budget per 5 year gen

I don't get why people think PC is that more expensive? It's cheaper for most gamers. Some places in my country offer you to pay your PC in 12 months. Maybe that could soften the blow if you don't have that kind of cash to spend right at the start of a gen.

#46 Posted by Another-World (791 posts) -


hermits are trolls, most are anyways.mems_1224

most people here are trolls, hermits or otherwise.

#47 Posted by fend_oblivion (6126 posts) -

[QUOTE="GamingVengeance"][QUOTE="iamrob7"]

Yeah unfortunate as it is a nice clip. Game looks epic with high settings at 1080p, I think that comes across well when you watch it in the small window.

iamrob7

looks even better at 1440p :P

That game would rape my PC at 1440p. I have a 3770k @4.6Ghz, 12mb RAM and an overclocked GTX 580, planetside 2 still struggles to maintain 50+fps in big battles at high settings 1080p. I can only imagine what this game would be like with a triple 30" monitor setup with the hardware to back it up.

12 mb RAM?
#48 Posted by Heirren (16862 posts) -

[QUOTE="iamrob7"]

[QUOTE="Heirren"]I'm probably going to build a gaming pc around the time the next consoles launch. I don't kid myself, though. Building a gaming of, right, is expensive. $300 for a gaming pc? Lol, how?! Please explain. First, saving money at the start just means that more money will be spent down the line. ...KungfuKitten

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/df-hardware-introducing-the-digital-foundry-pc

Here is a £300 PC built by Digital foundry 5-6 months ago that will deliver multiplats at slightly higher settings and almost double the framerate of their console counterparts. The same PC will be around £100 cheaper by now.

Depends what you want though, if you want the ultra settings in super high resolution @60 FPS you are going to have to pay for it. If you are satisfied with something just quite a bit better than what the current consoles provide you don't have to pay much at all and that PC will last just as long as this current console generation lasts because those multiplats are limited by the consoles.

next gen ~ $400 console
$50 * 5 year gen ~ $250 for online
15 games per year * 5 year gen ~ $750 license fee
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- +
~ $1400 PC hardware (no screen) budget per 5 year gen

I don't get why people think PC is that more expensive? It's cheaper for most gamers. Some places in my country offer you to pay your PC in 12 months. Maybe that could soften the blow if you don't have that kind of cash to spend right at the start of a gen.

I payed $299 for a ps3, and have spent $60 on a game under five times. With online vendors like amazon, it's rather common to get newer releases for $39. Oddly enough, with October/November being a popular relapse window, new games in that time frame often drop to $25-$30 for the shopping season. Pc confuses me. First, getting the great visuals and framerates with not having to upgrade for a minute costs some money and research. Second, I often hear that people game on monitors higher than 1080p. Now, I'm fully aware that there are monitors with very high resolutions, but is is a fact that a plasma gives better motion and color accuracy. ....and those pro LCD panels are very very expensive.
#49 Posted by KungfuKitten (20969 posts) -

[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"]

[QUOTE="iamrob7"]

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/df-hardware-introducing-the-digital-foundry-pc

Here is a £300 PC built by Digital foundry 5-6 months ago that will deliver multiplats at slightly higher settings and almost double the framerate of their console counterparts. The same PC will be around £100 cheaper by now.

Depends what you want though, if you want the ultra settings in super high resolution @60 FPS you are going to have to pay for it. If you are satisfied with something just quite a bit better than what the current consoles provide you don't have to pay much at all and that PC will last just as long as this current console generation lasts because those multiplats are limited by the consoles.

Heirren

next gen ~ $400 console
$50 * 5 year gen ~ $250 for online
15 games per year * 5 year gen ~ $750 license fee
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- +
~ $1400 PC hardware (no screen) budget per 5 year gen

I don't get why people think PC is that more expensive? It's cheaper for most gamers. Some places in my country offer you to pay your PC in 12 months. Maybe that could soften the blow if you don't have that kind of cash to spend right at the start of a gen.

I payed $299 for a ps3, and have spent $60 on a game under five times. With online vendors like amazon, it's rather common to get newer releases for $39. Oddly enough, with October/November being a popular relapse window, new games in that time frame often drop to $25-$30 for the shopping season. Pc confuses me. First, getting the great visuals and framerates with not having to upgrade for a minute costs some money and research. Second, I often hear that people game on monitors higher than 1080p. Now, I'm fully aware that there are monitors with very high resolutions, but is is a fact that a plasma gives better motion and color accuracy. ....and those pro LCD panels are very very expensive.

I suppose in the USA consoles and console games get discounts very fast, in europe I can find PC games about 15 euro's cheaper consistently than console games. Which makes sense because you don't pay for license fees. I don't really understand how console games could be cheaper. There are online forums that help people who are trying to put together the right PC components. It's not something that you have to figure out, and I wouldn't try go beyond 1080p for some time unless you're rilly rich.
You could just hook up the PC to a TV if you prefer those. I wouldn't go plasma though, they devour electricity and burn in/ghost easily.

#50 Posted by Heirren (16862 posts) -

[QUOTE="Heirren"][QUOTE="KungfuKitten"] next gen ~ $400 console
$50 * 5 year gen ~ $250 for online
15 games per year * 5 year gen ~ $750 license fee
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- +
~ $1400 PC hardware (no screen) budget per 5 year gen

I don't get why people think PC is that more expensive? It's cheaper for most gamers. Some places in my country offer you to pay your PC in 12 months. Maybe that could soften the blow if you don't have that kind of cash to spend right at the start of a gen.

KungfuKitten

I payed $299 for a ps3, and have spent $60 on a game under five times. With online vendors like amazon, it's rather common to get newer releases for $39. Oddly enough, with October/November being a popular relapse window, new games in that time frame often drop to $25-$30 for the shopping season. Pc confuses me. First, getting the great visuals and framerates with not having to upgrade for a minute costs some money and research. Second, I often hear that people game on monitors higher than 1080p. Now, I'm fully aware that there are monitors with very high resolutions, but is is a fact that a plasma gives better motion and color accuracy. ....and those pro LCD panels are very very expensive.

I suppose in the USA consoles and console games get discounts very fast, in europe I can find PC games about 15 euro's cheaper consistently than console games. Which makes sense because you don't pay for license fees. I don't really understand how console games could be cheaper. There are online forums that help people who are trying to put together the right PC components. It's not something that you have to figure out, and I wouldn't try go beyond 1080p for some time unless you're rilly rich.
You could just hook up the PC to a TV if you prefer those. I wouldn't go plasma though, they devour electricity and burn in/ghost easily.

I'm looking to build a pc next year. I'd either she'll out for a really nice LCD panel, or go plasma. Consumer LCD displays are atrocious.