@always_explicit said:
@k1ngd0m4g3rul3z said:
@always_explicit said:
@k1ngd0m4g3rul3z said:
Nobody is hyping them.
Also:
1-They're possibly going to be cheaper than that, gonna include the controller and come with SteamOS already installed.
2-about 50% of consoles are sold to casuals, they don't care for the games and exclusives, only buy sports games.
3-you can use m/k
4-what's "a lot more power" to you? You don't buy a big tvs because they draw more power? How bout a more powerful audio system? Or a dryer? How about A/C? I guess you don't use that cause it's the single most power hungry thing in a house.
This argument is stupid, always has been
5-That's true. Devs go where the easy money is. PC gamers aint' so stupid to buy games at full price day one in the MILLIONS like console people. Plus less piracy.
But so what? Is this another take on the classic "pc gaming is dead"="Steambox gaming is dead"?
What absolute nonsense. This casual/core thing is so misunderstood its beyond a joke. I consider myself a casual gamer, not because all I play is sports games but because I work and have a family and cannot devote as much time to gaming as I could in years gone by. I would consider a core gamer to be someone who invests an exceptional amount of time and money into gaming. I Someone could have every single EA title ever made and still invest 1000's of pounds and 1000's of hours into playing those games....yet that person is still casual??? Even though they spend twice as long playing fifa than you do spending 2 hours a week on your obscure JRPG because your so hardcore?
The casual consumer will not invest in the steambox because its convoluted but not because they are stupid or only play sports games.
So you have issues with your perceived definition of "casual gamer".
Whatever who cares, call them something else. Did a "core gamer (whatever the hell that means) bang your gf or summat?
I only used that term to indicate specifically people who bought the ps3/xb360 in order to play their sport games and little else, so "exclusives" are meaningless to them.
Well you have created a very specific consumer that apparently only buys sports games and then attributed 50% of the hardware market solely to them to reinforce your point. Thats quite impressive even for a statistic pulled out of your ass. Steambox gaming is a poorly executed idea based on its own merit.
I reckon it's a good estimate. Keep in mind system sellers like UC3 only sold 6m copy. That's 1/10th of the install base.
Heck, half of ps3/xb360 users being "random gamers"(hope this term doesn't hurt your sensibilities too) might be a conservative estimate.
Yes good exclusives pontentially move MILLIONS of units, but at the end of the day, they realistically won't stop SteamMachines (or any other competitor) to carve a 5 to 10 mil base "niche".
What matters most for the general populace (no, not gamespot or any other VG site reader) is BRAND RECOGNITION more than good games.
Then you guys might say "eh yeah Steam don't got no brand recognition then!!"
Ok you can make that argument instead, which is debatable, but the exclusives thing is baseless.
People here, like on many other enthusiast forums (be it PC, Audio systems, Smartphones, TV) live in a bubble, you gotta understand the vast majority of consumers aren't in the least informed.
At best they'll hear from some friend who is informed about second-hand info, or read some post on facebook or some other non-specific site. THat's it.
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