Why is the XB1 Controller worse than the 360?

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#1 Edited by Sweenix (5395 posts) -

I was playing the titanfall demo at eb games today, and i noticed how everything seems closer together and the controller is also smaller..

What we're Microsoft thinking

#2 Posted by Blabadon (25207 posts) -

Is it? I've never held it.

#3 Posted by nini200 (9383 posts) -

Just watch the command success rate 360 vs X1 dpad video and you'll see why.

#4 Posted by Evo_nine (1575 posts) -

I think its miles ahead of the 360 controller

#5 Edited by blamix99 (1540 posts) -

it's ok but i still think the 360 controller is better, but the new DS4 is better. jeez the X1 is still using batteries

#6 Posted by getyeryayasout (6892 posts) -
#7 Edited by SolidTy (41512 posts) -

It's okay, nothing special. The shoulder buttons do suck, but I can get used to almost anything. I like the 360 controller better. I hate both Dpads, but the Xbone Dpad is a slight improvement but at the cost of the shoulder buttons. Dislike the choice to use batteries yet again, which in a crutch online situation when your batteries go out, can really be an awful situation. I prefer the cellphone, laptop, 3DS, Wii U, Vita, PS3, DS, GBA SP, and PS4 internal batteries method.

@getyeryayasout said:

Update incoming.

lol at that title.

The Xbox One is getting another controller update, unfortunately.

#8 Edited by getyeryayasout (6892 posts) -
#9 Posted by WilliamRLBaker (28310 posts) -

@SolidTy said:

It's okay, nothing special. The shoulder buttons do suck, but I can get used to almost anything. I like the 360 controller better. I hate both Dpads, but the Xbone Dpad is a slight improvement but at the cost of the shoulder buttons. Dislike the choice to use batteries yet again, which in a crutch online situation when your batteries go out, can really be an awful situation. I prefer the cellphone, laptop, 3DS, Wii U, Vita, PS3, DS, GBA SP, and PS4 internal batteries method.

@getyeryayasout said:

Update incoming.

lol at that title.

The Xbox One is getting another controller update, unfortunately.

then buy a recharge pack, If you are so worried.

*note: Solidty purchased about 6 recharge packs but still bitches*

#10 Posted by R3FURBISHED (10037 posts) -

It's not, it absolutely is not.

#11 Posted by SolidTy (41512 posts) -

@SolidTy said:

It's okay, nothing special. The shoulder buttons do suck, but I can get used to almost anything. I like the 360 controller better. I hate both Dpads, but the Xbone Dpad is a slight improvement but at the cost of the shoulder buttons. Dislike the choice to use batteries yet again, which in a crutch online situation when your batteries go out, can really be an awful situation. I prefer the cellphone, laptop, 3DS, Wii U, Vita, PS3, DS, GBA SP, and PS4 internal batteries method.

@getyeryayasout said:

Update incoming.

lol at that title.

The Xbox One is getting another controller update, unfortunately.

then buy a recharge pack, If you are so worried.

*note: The legendary SolidTy purchased about 6 recharge packs but still bitches*

I shouldn't have too, that's my issue. It's the principle. I hope with the next Xbox, they offer internal + cord. You are right, the solution is only dollars away, but for $500, I was hoping for more value.

I went through half a dozen battery packs on 360, those things don't last forever sadly.

#12 Edited by SolidTy (41512 posts) -
@getyeryayasout said:

@SolidTy: TY for the solid, Ty.

Hahaha, clever.

In all my years here (Xbox vs. Gamecube vs. PS2 warz), you were the first to pull that word play off. I enjoy originality, good one. I chuckled. :P

#13 Edited by lamprey263 (22438 posts) -

who gives a shit about the D-pad, in like 99% of the games it's simple inventory control

plus I hear a ton of complaints about the shoulder buttons, I was surprised when I tried it it wasn't much of an issue, not better, not worse, but I can see change alone upsetting people

I kind of though it felt lighter, then again I played for years with the keyboard attachment so on the X360 controller so maybe that's not an issue

#14 Edited by SolidTy (41512 posts) -

@lamprey263 said:

who gives a shit about the D-pad, in like 99% of the games it's simple inventory control

2D fans, indie fans, fighting fans, and FPS fans that like responsive weapons selects for online matches.

You are right, in most 3D games the Dpad is simple inventory control. Killer Instinct and Strider come to mind on Xbone and future 2D titles.

I can't even use my four 360 arcade sticks with the Xbone, so instead of buying what's available for Killer Instinct, I am using the Dpad until I find a fighter I adore. It really comes down to what kind of gamer you are. I like 3D games as well. I have hundreds of XBLA games from Super Meatboy to Streetfighter 2 to Mortal Kombat. Those Dpads come in handy, especially when I have friends over.

BTW: In GeoW, Halo, and COD I can't tell you how many times the crummy dpad gave me the wrong weapon at the EXACT wrong time in a fierce online match. Resulted in my death and I know countless others. Even in 3D games you can have issues if the Dpad sucks. Not as crucial as a 2D, Indie, or Fighting gamer, but even 3D gamers can suffer with poor dpads at times.

#15 Posted by _Matt_ (8780 posts) -

Well when they created something as near perfect as the 360 controller, it comes pretty hard to beat it, and XBO controller just slightly fell short. That said it's still an amazing controller.

It's a wonder the Dualshock 4 somehow bests them both though.

#16 Posted by FastRobby (785 posts) -

I actually think the Xbox One controlles is better than the Xbox 360 controller, the thumbsticks, ABYX buttons, d-pad and triggers are better. They did make some things worse, like the shoulder buttons, and also the size of the controller. I've got pretty big hands, so I would rather have a controller the size of the Xbox 360 controller.

#17 Edited by sts106mat (18758 posts) -

the xbox one controller is better than the 360 in every way.

#18 Posted by UnbiasedPoster (629 posts) -

I don't know.

Why does it have less features than the 360?

Why are the games not as good as the 360?

The world may never know.

#19 Posted by xhawk27 (7078 posts) -

@nini200 said:

Just watch the command success rate 360 vs X1 dpad video and you'll see why.

You do know that Dpad on the X1 is 100x times better than on the 360?

#20 Posted by xhawk27 (7078 posts) -

@blamix99 said:

it's ok but i still think the 360 controller is better, but the new DS4 is better. jeez the X1 is still using batteries

You mean the 10 hour battery life and the glowing light is better.

#21 Edited by HalcyonScarlet (3771 posts) -

@SolidTy said:

@WilliamRLBaker said:

@SolidTy said:

It's okay, nothing special. The shoulder buttons do suck, but I can get used to almost anything. I like the 360 controller better. I hate both Dpads, but the Xbone Dpad is a slight improvement but at the cost of the shoulder buttons. Dislike the choice to use batteries yet again, which in a crutch online situation when your batteries go out, can really be an awful situation. I prefer the cellphone, laptop, 3DS, Wii U, Vita, PS3, DS, GBA SP, and PS4 internal batteries method.

@getyeryayasout said:

Update incoming.

lol at that title.

The Xbox One is getting another controller update, unfortunately.

then buy a recharge pack, If you are so worried.

*note: The legendary SolidTy purchased about 6 recharge packs but still bitches*

I shouldn't have too, that's my issue. It's the principle. I hope with the next Xbox, they offer internal + cord. You are right, the solution is only dollars away, but for $500, I was hoping for more value.

I went through half a dozen battery packs on 360, those things don't last forever sadly.

Really, I have three and all are still functioning.

Although I did notice Play and Charge Kit doesn't work on the 360. The recharge pack has charge memory problems. I took one I thought was dead and was about to throw away and tried it in the 360 Quick Charge Kit (charges a pack in two hours from wall socket) and after a 2 or 3 charges from empty to full, it was fully usable again, Stopped using the Play and Charge Kit after that.

#22 Posted by HalcyonScarlet (3771 posts) -

the xbox one controller is better than the 360 in every way.

I agree.

#23 Posted by Suppaman100 (3590 posts) -

PS4 controller >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Xbone, 360 controller

#24 Posted by BattleSpectre (5952 posts) -

Give it as much shit as you want, but my fingers never slip off of the joysticks after many hours of gaming, really happy with it. To be honest though this generation I prefer the PS4 controller.

#25 Posted by blamix99 (1540 posts) -

@xhawk27 said:

@blamix99 said:

it's ok but i still think the 360 controller is better, but the new DS4 is better. jeez the X1 is still using batteries

You mean the 10 hour battery life and the glowing light is better.

yup, the 12-14 hours battery life is better. and it gets fully charged in 50-70mins

#26 Posted by silversix_ (13627 posts) -

Because 100 million wasn't enough for those best engineers in the world MS has. They needed 327 million to create a controller.

#27 Posted by kuu2 (6799 posts) -

Laughs at TC having to try the gamepad at some sketchy kids store. The gamepad is fine and anyone complaining about the shoulder buttons you are doing it wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RF-smJELJ4A

#28 Posted by sts106mat (18758 posts) -

@kuu2 said:

Laughs at TC having to try the gamepad at some sketchy kids store. The gamepad is fine and anyone complaining about the shoulder buttons you are doing it wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RF-smJELJ4A

that's right, exactly how i've been playing

#29 Posted by madskills6117 (4021 posts) -

The only thing I find worse on the X1 controller compared to the 360 controller are the shoulder buttons. I'm somewhat used to them now but at first I was like wtf is this when trying to throw grenades in Titanfall.

#30 Posted by FoxbatAlpha (5886 posts) -

I love the X1 controller. It was a tall order to surpass the 360 controller.

Anyone who has issues with the X1 controller must not have battle hardened gamer hands then.

#31 Posted by steamistrash (423 posts) -

xboxone was never focused on being a gaming console from drawing board design its a shitty webtv device.

xbox brand died when xbox360 released all the co-creators left the companys its never been the same since xbox360 launch was total garbage if u compare it to the original xbox is actual programming quality

#32 Edited by GrenadeLauncher (3199 posts) -

I think it looks better, actually. Less of a Happy Meal toy than the 360 controller.

@kuu2 said:

Laughs at TC having to try the gamepad at some sketchy kids store. The gamepad is fine and anyone complaining about the shoulder buttons you are doing it wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RF-smJELJ4A

I love that the shoulder buttons need a walkthrough on how to use them. What a blunder that particular bit was.

#33 Posted by sts106mat (18758 posts) -

I think it looks better, actually. Less of a Happy Meal toy than the 360 controller.

says the man with a controller which light ups and feels cheaper than a happy meal toy. oh the irony

#34 Edited by misterpmedia (3362 posts) -

Because they only had a 100million dollar budget to spend on it.

#35 Posted by Harisemo (4132 posts) -

What XB1 controller does better: Better joystick grip
Superior build quality, the plastic don't feel cheap like 360
Battery compartment that doesn't stick out.

What XB1 controller does worse: Joysticks too loose
Terrible shoulder buttons
Batteries become loose inside the compartment

#36 Posted by khaloudakabooba (10 posts) -

The ps4 controller is nice at first but then it becomes really really bad since the rubber on the joysticks starts to melt (wtf) and it becomes harder and harder to play. Many times when i play fifa my hand will start slipping on the melted rubber. Also the battery life is really bad on it, i had to charge it every 2-3 hours. I dont understand why sony fans are so pretentious and act as if the controller is god sent when its actually not that good. Better than ps3 but really nothing special...

#37 Edited by SolidTy (41512 posts) -

@HalcyonScarlet said:

@SolidTy said:

@WilliamRLBaker said:

@SolidTy said:

It's okay, nothing special. The shoulder buttons do suck, but I can get used to almost anything. I like the 360 controller better. I hate both Dpads, but the Xbone Dpad is a slight improvement but at the cost of the shoulder buttons. Dislike the choice to use batteries yet again, which in a crutch online situation when your batteries go out, can really be an awful situation. I prefer the cellphone, laptop, 3DS, Wii U, Vita, PS3, DS, GBA SP, and PS4 internal batteries method.

@getyeryayasout said:

Update incoming.

lol at that title.

The Xbox One is getting another controller update, unfortunately.

then buy a recharge pack, If you are so worried.

*note: The legendary SolidTy purchased about 6 recharge packs but still bitches*

I shouldn't have too, that's my issue. It's the principle. I hope with the next Xbox, they offer internal + cord. You are right, the solution is only dollars away, but for $500, I was hoping for more value.

I went through half a dozen battery packs on 360, those things don't last forever sadly.

Really, I have three and all are still functioning.

Although I did notice Play and Charge Kit doesn't work on the 360. The recharge pack has charge memory problems. I took one I thought was dead and was about to throw away and tried it in the 360 Quick Charge Kit (charges a pack in two hours from wall socket) and after a 2 or 3 charges from empty to full, it was fully usable again, Stopped using the Play and Charge Kit after that.

There is also the matter of gaming time on 360 between us to consider...as well as the length of time we've owned 360s to consider. I can't tell you how many hours I've played 360, but I can tell you I have over 120,000 Gamerscore if that gives you an idea. That doesn't count all the hours (hours upon hours) I put into fighting and online shooter games I maxed out the Gamerscore but continued to play against others online. I have had two 360s since 2005 launch. I have about 6-7 of the battery packs that hold 10 minutes or less and need to be charged again. I have probably 4 of them I bought three-ish years ago (because my originals were not working), and only two of them still work proper. The other two hold half a charge.

My equipment btw, is TWO wall socket chargers (360 Quick Charge Kits), and at least four Play and Charge cords. I'm not sure they even sell white battery packs anymore, but that's what a lot of mine are. I also have a few black, one green, and one red battery pack.

The idea that as a new Xbone owner, three-four years from now that $25 battery pack won't be working right doesn't sit well with me.

#38 Posted by charizard1605 (54463 posts) -

It's not, it's an amazing controller.

#39 Posted by cainetao11 (15867 posts) -

@Sweenix said:

I was playing the titanfall demo at eb games today, and i noticed how everything seems closer together and the controller is also smaller..

What we're Microsoft thinking

I only get that feeling from the LB, RB buttons. Otherwise I like the controller. 360 is still my favorite though.

#40 Posted by RR360DD (11414 posts) -

Its actually a lot better.

But I wouldn't expect a cow to know. Your hands are probably deformed from using the crappy dualshock the last 19 years LOL

#41 Posted by lundy86_4 (42658 posts) -

It feels a little more flimsy, but I hear it has advantages over the 360 controller. The D-Pad seems to be miles better.

#42 Posted by jsmoke03 (12494 posts) -

dont like the shoulder button and i dont like the nubs on the analog stick being smaller, but it feels more comfortable in my hands....i didnt like the 360 controller cuz it makes my hand cramp

#43 Edited by DaBrainz (7604 posts) -

Dude its the same xbox controller we have been using for the past ten years just with a new name. Old tech.

#44 Posted by getyeryayasout (6892 posts) -

@SolidTy: Out of curiosity I took apart a 360 rechargeable battery pack that had stopped taking charge and was mildly surprised to see there were simply two skinless AA NiCad batteries inside the casing. For some reason I expected something different.

#45 Posted by nini200 (9383 posts) -

@xhawk27 said:

@nini200 said:

Just watch the command success rate 360 vs X1 dpad video and you'll see why.

You do know that Dpad on the X1 is 100x times better than on the 360?

Could you explain why you think that?

#46 Edited by incuensuocha (1509 posts) -

I agree. I use a 360 controller on my PC and can't imagine ever switching to the Xbone controller. My only complaints with the 360 controller are the d-pad and the constricting battery bulge. The Xbone controller feels too compressed. Every thing feels smaller and closer together. My biggest complaint is both the bumpers and the triggers. On the 360 controller the triggers sat in a comfortable part of my fingers, by the first knuckle. On the Xbone they feel further down the finger, by the second knuckle. It just feels wrong.

#47 Posted by xhawk27 (7078 posts) -

@nini200 said:

@xhawk27 said:

@nini200 said:

Just watch the command success rate 360 vs X1 dpad video and you'll see why.

You do know that Dpad on the X1 is 100x times better than on the 360?

Could you explain why you think that?

I heard it was a lot better than the 360's D-pad. Played it for about 30 mins and thought it was better.

#48 Posted by chikenfriedrice (9406 posts) -

It's not....the X1 controller is better than all controllers IMO

#49 Posted by nini200 (9383 posts) -

@xhawk27 said:

@nini200 said:

@xhawk27 said:

@nini200 said:

Just watch the command success rate 360 vs X1 dpad video and you'll see why.

You do know that Dpad on the X1 is 100x times better than on the 360?

Could you explain why you think that?

I heard it was a lot better than the 360's D-pad. Played it for about 30 mins and thought it was better.

I've played Killer Instinct in Best Buy for about 2 hours and I was forced to use the analog to play because the dpad would not register my diagonal inputs but once out of every 10 attempts which is terrible for fighting games since I'm a dpad user. The dpad on the x1 is terrible for diagonal inputs as shown in this video:

I can not agree about the X1 controller being better.

#50 Edited by SolidTy (41512 posts) -
@getyeryayasout said:

@SolidTy: Out of curiosity I took apart a 360 rechargeable battery pack that had stopped taking charge and was mildly surprised to see there were simply two skinless AA NiCad batteries inside the casing. For some reason I expected something different.

Maybe I should do that sometime with some of my wonky battery packs, haha. Your results don't surprise me given the shape of the packs.