Why is Sony so focused on indies?

As a XB1 owner ive noticed a lot of these indies are being dev'd for PSN and not my platform

I've taken notice and im not liking it

Is sony physically paying them to bring the indie over there first, and then the XBL Parity clause cancels the game out on XBL or whats going on?

i want the games the same as PSN gets them atleast the very least

i notice the indies are dropping on steam first usually then get brought to PSN and some of em either aren't coming to XBL permanently or an additional like 1 year later when they are super old

Is microsoft actively pursuing indies i notice on the PSN store they have "indies" (has its own actual section)

i guess its like a big thing hipsters and stuff love indies and they got those glasses and an annoying beard and a plaid shirt they love indies and stuff and hate mainstream things right?

enough with the fake glasses and the anti mainstream uncaring attitude we want real games indies are basically my side food of appetizers there not real games but i do like them in small doses

so is that stuff coming or what and could we see multiplats like playstation 1 games even make there way over to XBL or just no?

With over 300 current games and more RETAIL games than X1, they are a well rounded current gen 8 leading gaming machine.

They're not.

Why are you so focused on creating shitty threads?

Because they are (were) relatively untapped set of talent in the medium that would be absolutely stupid for consoles not to take advantage of. Sony having the easiest developer clauses and best worldwide communication of the three helps a lot.

Also, something needs to keep the Vita alive.

so the indies are just coming to them first to reach more users and its not about anything else?

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Because a small indie studio today can become a big budget studio tomorrow

not to mention more retail games than X1, you forgot that part.

Because indies are awesome.

yeah man i agree microsoft needs to turn this crap around as an xb1 owner im not feeling in good hands with all the crap sony keeps getting an SF5 might be final straw they didn't even fight for that game

Because they realized that Microsoft was doing it last gen and wanted to catch up with the times.

do you think microsoft will be countering them at all?

stuff like screamride / the forest / whatever weird crap microsoft bought

aren't reallyl what i have in mind vs stuff like rogue legacy and shovel knight and dayz

is microsoft gonna start gettin the good indies or just let sony take the gen by storm?

WE NEED the same power level of indies like

the forest doesn't cancel out shovel knight etc does microsoft know this crap doesnt make up for it?

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Then I'll respond.

Well, this is nothing new. When major shows like E3 and PAX have indies chewing up major stage time for Sony, questions should be raised.

I have always said indies are great but they are just not the reason to get hype about. They certainly are a slap in the face when that is all Sony really has to offer its customers.

and @ProtossX what the hell is with the back and forth stance? Yesterday you stated you don't even play your ONE and were strictly PC/PS4. I'm confused with you.

You're the worst

sorry about the confusion

I currently own XB1/360/PSP Vita/PSP/DS/PS3/ gaming laptop/desktop

i don't own a ps4 yet i was just complainin about my xb1 i only use it for MCC mainly an the halo betas or whatever

i would love more reason to play my xb1 i was just saying i might be happier with a ps4 cuz they have like bigger selection of stuff

im back an forth hating my xb1 but i also try to defend it from the cows sometimes cuz i get sick of em etc

For some reason the saying... something's better than nothing comes to mind. :P

@ProtossRushX: They are probably hoping lightning strikes twice with Journey or Minecraft.

Nope. I love the current mix of games on both X1 and PS4.

Indie developers don't like MS

oh yeah i forgot minecraft i guess microsoft did get the best indie of all time, but it sucks that all sony versions already exist

what plans is microsoft gonna do to sabotage minecraft on PSN do you think? or will they just make a minecraft 2 exclusive or something?

Could be that it's just easier/cheaper for the small devs to get their games on PS rather that XB; as for Steam, anyone can get a game on Steam.

None of those stupid ideas

Sony poaches Indie developers because these games are waaaaaaay cheaper, compared to proper game development

They just love them indies they do

Proper game development meaning spending half of your money on marketing?

Because Sony doesn't leave games on the table due to a pigheaded clause. Nothing wrong with that. I would rather have Broforce and InFamous instead of just one.

What these two said. You're terrible at thread creation and paragraph structure.

Personally i love indies. I have alot of ones in Steam. So why not !! Some of my best last gen gaming experiences came from indies. For example : Plants Vs Zombies , Bastion and many more

Not to mention more than 1000 people that work on a game and need to get paid, like for gta 5.

Both, Sony and MS, are very focused on indies this gen, which is good!

Considering massive devs like AE and Ubisoft are releasing the same game year after year, indies are the reason there's still hope to this industry.

Because AAA titles take a long time to develop and be released. Securing indie games means a constant trickle of new games to play. Between 1st party and 3rd party games there aren't enough to really fill a console's library. With indie games you can pad out the library in the off season as indie games don't really follow the market trends when launching.

It's a smart idea to bolster the library. It gives PS4 owners a ton more inexpensive games to play. Indie games also bring with them new IPs and Sony can analyze their popularity on the PC to determine if the IP and the studio that created it are worth investing in and securing for future games. These games are also much more quirky, great for short gameplay sessions, and often far more innovative than the major devs put out so it gives a lot of much needed diversity to the library.

I could see them not making MineCraft 2 available for Playstation platforms. I would assume they will leave the first one alone.

i think you guys should complain to xb1 with their parity clause

In a way, I think this is Sony's way of getting in bed with a lot of untapped talent that they went overlooked on last generation. More and more, throughout Gen7 and into Gen8, Sony got snubbed by big-name publishers that they were able to count on for exclusive games in the past. When Square-Enix and Capcom outright turned tail on them, they were in a position of weakness.

Now, the climate for big publishers is to go all-in on multiplatform development with their established franchises and even turning to PC. In relativity to that, the indie developers are essentially untapped from the standpoint of establishing relationships and establishing new IP. The indie support you are seeing from Sony is more of an indication of the sign of the times than anything else. Vying with Microsoft over exclusivity deals has a lot of long-term pitfalls if you look at them as a permanent player despite their commercial problems with the current system.

The most important thing to remember is that once upon a time, these games that are looked at as "indie" would have been full-fledged developer/publisher making software not but 15 years ago. The talent is there, the opportunity for hit IP is there, the quality can be there and the only thing missing is big publisher level financial backing... Which as a platform maker like Sony can only assume, makes it a ripe environment for letting a new generation of winners and losers form and take shape for later this generation and into generations to follow.

Sony made their policies for indie games pretty relaxed.

Indie devs started flocking. They are just taking advantage of the press now.

I think they are trying to differentiate themselves.

Now there are more multiplats than ever and they are all pretty much going to the PC, even the so called "console exclusives", there are only going to be about 3 or so full retail exclusives a year, so they need as much as they can to add appeal.

Because they don't know if the next indie game could become another minecraft and they want to be there when it happens.

leading in what ?

Graphics ? Nope

Amount of games ? Nope

Coverage of genres ? Nope

Most gamers ? Nope

Most consoles sold ? Good for Sony, I guess

Sales, Retail games and games overall available for current gen 8 consoles.

PS4 is currently the leading Netflix player for 2015

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They're focused on good Indy games....And even then they're not really focused on them....just trying to have more games for ppl to play.

Nothing wrong with that.

Sony aspires to be pc; Microsoft wants to turn PC into Xbox.

400 bux in a console to play a game that looks like something I played in the 80´s ....and I even have to pay for it ? ----> no thanks !

No Man's Sky is the Juggernaut Indie that the lemmings will be missing out on.

Wtf is this part of your post?

It's like pure poop in form of text.

Yes Sony has invested huge amounts of money on small games ever since Braid.

Hmmm. I see you are limiting it now to consoles.

Fine. But I don't see how most consoles sold and most games sold benefits anyone except Sony.