Why don't game developers make more Adventure games

You mean action-adventures, right? :) Zelda isn't an adventure game.

Anyway...why? Because they're not as popular as pure action games while at the same time just as expensive, if not more to make.

However recently action-adventure elements have been creeping into action games more and more. Games like Bioshock or Far Cry2 are already pretty much action-adventure.

And whole sandbox genre is also very much action-adventure in different form

You mean action-adventures, right? :) Zelda isn't an adventure game.

Anyway...why? Because they're not as popular as pure action games while at the same time just as expensive, if not more to make.

However recently action-adventure elements have been creeping into action games more and more. Games like Bioshock or Far Cry2 are already pretty much action-adventure.

And whole sandbox genre is also very much action-adventure in different form

AdrianWerner

Yeah I guess action-adventure is right. I'm not too big on most of the Sandbox games though like Saints Row and GTA.

If not adventure what can you consider Zelda as?Chutebox

I don't ever see Adventure games come out. We need more Adventure games like Zelda and SOTC. I like Rpgs and I play them all the time but lately I've been thinking about how fun it would be to play a great Adventure game. jeffdoomsday

Adventure, and Platformers are dying like Fighting games, in lieu of Shooters.

I agree. When games like Uncharted, Braid, Ratchet:Future, Ratchet:Booty PSN, Kameo, etc. don't sale like they should. I will continue to do my best to support them.

I would love a Jack 4, Sly Cooper 4, Psychonauts 2, Conker 2, etc. We need to get those sales up.

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]If not adventure what can you consider Zelda as?AdrianWerner

Oh nevermind, I misread.

I haven't seen a adventure game in ages, think the last one I played was Syberia.

You want good adventure games you have to go back to the 90s with dos-box really, the genre hasn't been anywhere near that it was for years because good writers are hard to come by and the fact that other more interactive genres have taken primary positions in the market.

yeah I need more Zelda's..write that down miyamoto(spelling)..I will buy a Wii for a new Zelda!

I hope Prince of Persia will be good.

it's hilarious, yet poignant, that the guy who wants more adventure games doesn't actually know what an adventure game is.chutup

you're in a "adventure" after all in the Zelda games.

I hate the 'point & click' PC adventures with a passion btw

[QUOTE="chutup"]it's hilarious, yet poignant, that the guy who wants more adventure games doesn't actually know what an adventure game is.killerfist

you're in a "adventure" after all in the Zelda games.

I hate the 'point & click' PC adventures with a passion btw

So do most people, unfortunately, that's why they've died out. That and nobody ever thought to really advance the genre at all. At least we still have Sam & Max.

[QUOTE="chutup"]it's hilarious, yet poignant, that the guy who wants more adventure games doesn't actually know what an adventure game is.killerfist

you're in a "adventure" after all in the Zelda games.

I hate the 'point & click' PC adventures with a passion btw

used to love those point & click games on PC back in the 90's... Monkey island, Full throttle, Sam & max, Grim Fandango, Discworld etc etc

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[QUOTE="chutup"]it's hilarious, yet poignant, that the guy who wants more adventure games doesn't actually know what an adventure game is.chutup

you're in a "adventure" after all in the Zelda games.

I hate the 'point & click' PC adventures with a passion btw

So do most people, unfortunately, that's why they've died out. That and nobody ever thought to really advance the genre at all. At least we still have Sam & Max.

The last true adventure game I played was Dementia way back. You played a granny that suffered from dementia and other mental illnesses. Everything in game was supposed to be her imagination and fatasies with a strange talking bunny (with headset and sunglasses:P) as your guide. The bunny "made" the world I believe. It had 5 discs, and was a pretty hard game at the time (I was 10 I think:P)

Though I believe the game was banned in some areas as it was "offensive" to the elderly.

[QUOTE="chutup"]it's hilarious, yet poignant, that the guy who wants more adventure games doesn't actually know what an adventure game is.killerfist

you're in a "adventure" after all in the Zelda games.

I hate the 'point & click' PC adventures with a passion btw

In this respect, the Adventure and Action-Adventure genres have mixed together somewhat, making distinctions a bit hard to make. However, it can be admitted that most 3D adventures were heavy on the action in contrast to things like Myst (and its remake RealMyst) that focused more on exploration and puzzle-solving.

An honest 3D adventure is indeed possible, just not popular at this point in time.

They make what sells the best. Developing is a business and they seek to make money although many on here are not able to understand that. Many on here think developers put millions of dollors and man hours into making a game to put a smile on our face.

Sure there will always be every style of game but the games that sell the best will be the ones being made the most.

Because so called "hardcore" gamers think there kiddy garbage.

Look at all the hate games like LBP and Banjo N&B is getting from lemmings and cow's.

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[QUOTE="chutup"]it's hilarious, yet poignant, that the guy who wants more adventure games doesn't actually know what an adventure game is.chutup

you're in a "adventure" after all in the Zelda games.

I hate the 'point & click' PC adventures with a passion btw

So do most people, unfortunately, that's why they've died out. That and nobody ever thought to really advance the genre at all. At least we still have Sam & Max.

Adventure games dying out is a modern myth and has nothing to do with reality nowadays. It's currently one of THE strongest genres on PC

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[QUOTE="chutup"]it's hilarious, yet poignant, that the guy who wants more adventure games doesn't actually know what an adventure game is.AdrianWerner

you're in a "adventure" after all in the Zelda games.

I hate the 'point & click' PC adventures with a passion btw

So do most people, unfortunately, that's why they've died out. That and nobody ever thought to really advance the genre at all. At least we still have Sam & Max.

Adventure games dying out is a modern myth and has nothing to do with reality nowadays. It's currently one of THE strongest genres on PC

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[QUOTE="chutup"]it's hilarious, yet poignant, that the guy who wants more adventure games doesn't actually know what an adventure game is.Eltroz

you're in a "adventure" after all in the Zelda games.

I hate the 'point & click' PC adventures with a passion btw

So do most people, unfortunately, that's why they've died out. That and nobody ever thought to really advance the genre at all. At least we still have Sam & Max.

Adventure games dying out is a modern myth and has nothing to do with reality nowadays. It's currently one of THE strongest genres on PC

And also profits wise strategy dwarfs shooters

profits wise? Sure. But when you count ammount of quality games? Counting games good and above (so by GS scale 7.0 and more) there have been more worthwhile adventure games this year than MMOs and shooters combined

And also profits wise strategy dwarfs shooters

AdrianWerner

Its an entertainment industry. If they don't make it then 99% of the time it means that development cost vs revenue generated makes it a worthless venture unless its something like Zelda which already has a guarenteed fan base and sales.

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profits wise? Sure. But when you count ammount of quality games? Counting games good and above (so by GS scale 7.0 and more) there have been more worthwhile adventure games this year than MMOs and shooters combined

And also profits wise strategy dwarfs shooters

HuusAsking

Even on Gamespot (which has always been notorious for underrating this genre) when it comes to 7.0+ adventure games this year we got:

Jack Keane

Dracula: Origin

Cleopatra

Murder in Abbey

Penumbra:Black Pleague

Sam and Max: Season 2

Strond Bad episoe 2

Overclocked

Experiment

Rhiannon

Plus Apollo Justice 4 on DS

and yes, all are real adventure games

Adventure games dying out is a modern myth and has nothing to do with reality nowadays. It's currently one of THE strongest genres on PC

AdrianWerner

No way. Just because there's been a spike in the amount of low-budget titles coming does not mean the genre is strong at all. It's especially not strong when the genre is incredibly stale compared to other genres, and the most innovative traditional title is a storytelling gimmick (Overclocked).

I love my adventure genre, but it's like a noob trying to zerg rush against the colossal might of a skilled opponent (The FPS, RTS, or RPG genre) armed with Protoss Zealots.

Once the rest of the European devs start getting more ambitious like Quantic Dream, then will I start to see how awesome it is.

No way. Just because there's been a spike in the amount of low-budget titles coming does not mean the genre is strong at all. It's especially not strong when the genre is incredibly stale compared to other genres, and the most innovative traditional title is a storytelling gimmick (Overclocked).

FrozenLiquid

And incredibly stale? COmpared to what? Shooters? RPGs? Where is innovation in those? At least I can see plenty of innovation in Penumbra and Experiment, as well as many DS Adventure games. THis gen the only decent non-stale FPS was STALKER.

And I'm not sure I would like to see others following Quantic Dreams in the future, Heavy Rain is raising seriously mixed emotions in me, it looks less and less like adventure game and more and more like a series of QTEs